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HeroDelTiempo17
04/22/22 9:06:04 AM
#52:


Aecioo posted...
honestly, if you end up on a jury you're probably an idiot

or you're someone like biscuit who is fascinated by this stuff

but probably 99% are idiots who aren't smart enough to get out of jury duty

I mean it is literally designed this way on purpose, can't exactly blame the idiots for that

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Darkinsanity1
04/22/22 9:30:22 AM
#53:


God Amber Heard is a heinous c***. I so want to see her suffer the consequences of all this getting out, whether Johnny wins this case or not, she is likely in trouble. I hate abusers, how smug and petty they are in how they treat people.

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swordz9
04/22/22 9:37:05 AM
#54:


TheRock1525 posted...
I have no idea why they moved forward with shooting Aquaman 2 with Heard still in it.

WB having a grand time with shit Heard and arrested again Ezra Miller lol
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redrocket
04/22/22 9:47:59 AM
#55:


banananor posted...
This was in Brooklyn! Don't remember the specific court, but it was a criminal trial

I was a bit young at the time, so didn't have the forcefulness to get them to cave, which in retrospect they would have

They were being really weird about other stuff, too. They didnt want to give us a printed or written definition of the law under question (metrics for self defense, duty to retreat, etc) to bring into the jury room, so we had to go out and get it repeated. such a waste of time

I could rant. I lost some respect for our justice system through the overall process of experiencing that trial!

This is the point where you just default to not guilty and call it a day I guess.


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PrivateBiscuit1
04/22/22 11:07:53 AM
#56:


banananor posted...
This was in Brooklyn! Don't remember the specific court, but it was a criminal trial

I was a bit young at the time, so didn't have the forcefulness to get them to cave, which in retrospect they would have

They were being really weird about other stuff, too. They didnt want to give us a printed or written definition of the law under question (metrics for self defense, duty to retreat, etc) to bring into the jury room, so we had to go out and get it repeated. such a waste of time

I could rant. I lost some respect for our justice system through the overall process of experiencing that trial!
Oh that is just weird. My understanding is most courts will at least give you the definition of the law in your jury instructions. This is just strange. But every court is very, very different, a lot of times in stupid ways.

KamikazePotato posted...
Imagine being so messed up you can't stop smirking during testimony of the stuff you did
Here's one example I ran into, probably the best one to show her switching it off and on. But usually she just turns her head, puts her hand in front of her mouth, and you can tell she's trying not to just outright laugh.

https://twitter.com/Thesunnymango/status/1516951020546502661?s=20&t=16jlXp6vFS8bhQok9Zfbmw

Aecioo posted...
honestly, if you end up on a jury you're probably an idiot

or you're someone like biscuit who is fascinated by this stuff

but probably 99% are idiots who aren't smart enough to get out of jury duty
Yo, even if I love this stuff, I would NOT want to be on a jury. It is actually the worst. I don't even want to attend a trial for my job dude, and I keep missing them like arrows whizzing past my head at this point, so it's bound to happen soon. I've been watching this trial while I work. Imagine sitting in a jury having to listen to some asshole try to point at Johnny Depp and say "He did drugs. He bad." for 5 hours straight. Just miserable.

swordz9 posted...
WB having a grand time with shit Heard and arrested again Ezra Miller lol
In Hawaii, you have a better chance of getting attacked by Ezra Miller than being attacked by a shark.

And as a bonus, I'll link that Isaac Barusch testimony where he broke down on the stand about how bullshit it is that Amber lied.

https://youtu.be/FcmUNlgld74

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FFDragon
04/22/22 11:43:20 AM
#57:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
In Hawaii, you have a better chance of getting attacked by Ezra Miller than being attacked by a shark.

lmao

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Jakyl25
04/22/22 11:52:54 AM
#58:


Aecioo posted...
honestly, if you end up on a jury you're probably an idiot

or you're someone like biscuit who is fascinated by this stuff

but probably 99% are idiots who aren't smart enough to get out of jury duty

On the contrary, I feel like if you want the system to actually function, its your duty as a reasonable person to accept jury duty

Ive been called for jury duty three times, and actually served on a trial once. I was glad to do it.


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Mr Lasastryke
04/22/22 11:58:33 AM
#59:


the system can't function because it's fundamentally broken.

just because you're a reasonable person doesn't mean you're able to accurately gauge a lawsuit.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/22/22 12:08:56 PM
#60:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
the system can't function because it's fundamentally broken.

just because you're a reasonable person doesn't mean you're able to accurately gauge a lawsuit.
Who do you expect to gauge the law then? If you say Judges, they are just informed, but also imperfect people. They get things wrong constantly and some of them are just outright terrible.

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Mr Lasastryke
04/22/22 12:13:59 PM
#61:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Who do you expect to gauge the law then? If you say Judges, they are just informed, but also imperfect people. They get things wrong constantly and some of them are just outright terrible.

"nobody's perfect so we should let joe schmoe who uses reasoning like 'i didn't like his aura' have influence on a trial" seems like weird reasoning. at least judges are informed, like you said.

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ChaosTonyV4
04/22/22 12:19:23 PM
#62:


Not that I dont think shes an abuser, I do because of the recordings, but when youre sharing clips of her kinda half-smiling after a quiet discussion you cant hear and then going back to frowning and calling it disgusting, I think youve lost the plot.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/22/22 12:27:56 PM
#63:


My point is that it's an imperfect system regardless.

Furthermore, the Judge is there to make the trial fair with additional knowledge they possess about the entire case in general. For instance, in this case Amber Heard's team has been very shifty with the evidence, messing with meta data, among other things. That can color the Judge's opinion of the facts of the case. And they're constantly trying to sneak in information they shouldn't, and the Judge is there to make sure that inadmissable information is not a factor.

That's why it's presented to as neutral of people as possible. So that they can get a scope of ONLY the facts of the case and deliberate on a decision together. And as has been discussed, they have the opportunity to eliminate most of the absolute nutters on a jury so that weird person who decided on auras is usually not factored in. AND they are clearly told what to judge things on as well with instructions.

I can understand where you're coming from, really. It can never be a perfect system, but it's crafted in a way to make it as fair as it possibly can.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/22/22 12:30:39 PM
#64:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Not that I dont think shes an abuser, I do because of the recordings, but when youre sharing clips of her kinda half-smiling after a quiet discussion you cant hear and then going back to frowning and calling it disgusting, I think youve lost the plot.
Tony, I clearly showed it as an example of how quickly she is turning the faces off and on.

You are free to watch it for yourself for the many times she's smirked and made smug faces while it's being recounted the awful things she's done to Johnny Depp.

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Waluigi1
04/22/22 12:37:25 PM
#65:


This is all very interesting. I appreciate your breakdowns.

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CassandraCain
04/22/22 12:42:37 PM
#66:


Saw this in another topic about the case, could be appreciated here.

https://twitter.com/mculokii/status/1517264786290974720?s=20&t=4CUJ7r7Nz2U80ka4BRWgWg

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/22/22 12:53:19 PM
#67:


CassandraCain posted...
Saw this in another topic about the case, could be appreciated here.

https://twitter.com/mculokii/status/1517264786290974720?s=20&t=4CUJ7r7Nz2U80ka4BRWgWg
Yeah, the whole thing has basically been this.

From the moment cross-examination began it was clear that Johnny Depp did not like Rottenborn at all, for good reason.

A little more context for a few things:

- It is absolutely impossible to follow any sort of timeline. So when Johnny said he could feel them jumping into the future, it was because he has gone from 2013 to 2016 to 2014 to 2013 etc. It's really sloppy and difficult to follow, likely on purpose.
- This is the most disorganized presentation of exhibits. They are CONSTANTLY having to look for exhibits and spend upwards of 5 minutes dealing with redactions that should have been dealt with. It's pretty frustrating.
- The sloppy evidence is because it has been a complete battle to get discovery of evidence out from Amber's side with an outrageous number of motions forcing Amber to give up documents or her phone among other things.
- He asks if he read that right just to have a question because you have to accompany evidence with a question. A few he did NOT read it right and Johnny would say no and correct him, even if it was as small as a punctuation mark.
- It's crazy to me he's not having Johnny read the more heinous texts to have his voice saying them. He had him do it once and then they argued over who would read the next one. I think Rottenborn just wants to seem like he's in charge.
- This isn't even touching the surface of the banter that Johnny has delivered to this guy yesterday. You can probably make a 10 minute cut of it honestly.

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BlueCrystalTear
04/22/22 1:08:37 PM
#68:


Aecioo posted...
but probably 99% are idiots who aren't smart enough to get out of jury duty
I was summoned for jury duty when I was 21 y/o and it took me a day to get out of it - before I even went to the courthouse to see if I'd be picked. I just did NOT want to sit still through boring testimony, become dysregulated, and have the judge kick me out. My mom vouched that such an event would transpire and I was given a letter saying to disregard the summons. It's not hard to get off the hook if you can show that you're not wired for that stuff.

This entire thing is fascinating so I thought I'd say that btw. I'm really enjoying the recaps! Amber Heard is such an interesting villain here in that she's playing the victim yet trying to pass the blame. I hope her career is over as a result of this and that Depp can be forgiven, since it sounds like he truly has been defamed. It's still a tough case to win but it sounds like most people in that courtroom realize what really happened, but we'll see what Amber's witnesses say and if they seem credible (which they probably won't).

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TheRock1525
04/22/22 1:16:13 PM
#69:


I mean Johnny has won the court of public opinion which is far more important to his career. It's probably why more than anything he went forward with this trial even with long odds of getting a victory.

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CassandraCain
04/22/22 1:28:13 PM
#70:


True there are few people left trying to defend Heard anymore. They only have the "well they were probably both abusive" angle, which has gotten weaker by the day.

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TheRock1525
04/22/22 1:46:41 PM
#71:


CassandraCain posted...
True there are few people left trying to defend Heard anymore. They only have the "well they were probably both abusive" angle, which has gotten weaker by the day.

There is evidence of abuse towards Heard in the relationship. It's just more circumstantial and harder to prove compared to Johnny's.

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Team Rocket Elite
04/22/22 2:03:14 PM
#72:


TheRock1525 posted...


There is evidence of abuse towards Heard in the relationship. It's just more circumstantial and harder to prove compared to Johnny's.


I guess this will come up somewhere during the 6 week trial?

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/22/22 2:30:47 PM
#73:


A few things about Amber's "evidence" of abuse.

In the UK trial, she had nothing. All of her stories of abuse are contradicted, and she has changed what has happened in multiple of them.

When she claims to have been beaten or abused, nobody can recall seeing her bruised, marked up, or swollen. And she's had appearances literally the day after she said she had a busted nose or busted lip and she's on TV looking perfectly fine.

To that effect, none of her friends who she saw constantly and confided with are set to be witnesses for her. And if they could corroborate with what Amber said, they would be. Only her sister is a witness of the people who were closest to her.

They have had Johnny Depp on cross-examination for over a day and they haven't provided a shred of evidence that he's ever struck her or admitted to striking her.

She claimed to have pictures and images of her bruises and marks from being hit on her phone, absolutely refused to produce her phone and those images for such a long time and they had to do multiple Motions to Compel to get them, and then eventually produced doctored images with the metadata wiped.

I'm saying there is next to nothing they have to prove abuse, whereas there is plenty of Johnny being able to produce he was abused. I frankly don't foresee them coming up with anything at this point if they couldn't on cross-examination yet. I just don't see it being mutual at all here.

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changmas
04/22/22 2:38:32 PM
#74:


Aecioo posted...
honestly, if you end up on a jury you're probably an idiot

or you're someone like biscuit who is fascinated by this stuff

but probably 99% are idiots who aren't smart enough to get out of jury duty

if you're fascinated by jury stuff then the prosecutor and defense will NEVER EVER let you on a jury. it's always going to be in (at least one, if not both's) best interest not to have anyone in there who actually understands the underlying mechanisms of the legal system whatsoever

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Leonhart4
04/22/22 2:40:02 PM
#75:


I've been called for jury duty three times and I'll never be chosen for a jury because I'm involved in religious work.

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Aecioo
04/22/22 2:42:25 PM
#76:


Leonhart4 posted...
I've been called for jury duty three times and I'll never be chosen for a jury because I'm involved in religious work.

I'll never be chosen because I don't want to be chosen.

Last time I had to talk about how much I hate and distrust cops in front of a bunch of cops.

guess who wasn't chosen

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Leonhart4
04/22/22 2:44:11 PM
#77:


I mean I don't deliberately try to get out of jury duty, but I also don't have to try because I'll just never be chosen

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PerfectChaosZ
04/22/22 2:47:42 PM
#78:


Johnnny Depp lost the UK and is just trying again in America. If it was anyone but Depp theyd be a laughing stock on the internet for literally losing and trying again in a different county. A ton of stuff Depp said has already been proven as lies like her cutting his finger and people are still regurgitating that like its true.
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Darkinsanity1
04/22/22 2:52:00 PM
#79:


PerfectChaosZ posted...
Johnnny Depp lost the UK and is just trying again in America. If it was anyone but Depp theyd be a laughing stock on the internet for literally losing and trying again in a different county. A ton of stuff Depp said has already been proven as lies like her cutting his finger and people are still regurgitating that like its true.
Well, I guess there had to be at least one...

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TheRock1525
04/22/22 3:17:30 PM
#80:


Do we actually have confirmation of how he cut his finger? His claim was that it was from her throwing a vodka bottle and her claim is that he did it to himself (and she supposedly provided audio evidence). Is there a police report to that?

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Jakyl25
04/22/22 3:19:13 PM
#81:


Aecioo posted...
I'll never be chosen because I don't want to be chosen.

Last time I had to talk about how much I hate and distrust cops in front of a bunch of cops.

guess who wasn't chosen

When I was chosen for a trial, I trusted the judge because she dismissed a potential juror for saying she trusted cops more than the average person


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TheRock1525
04/22/22 3:22:41 PM
#82:


So reading up on it, Depp never went to the police, instead going to his doctor and saying that he cut himself. Which would still line up with his claim that he lied to protect Amber at the time, but obviously muddies things.

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banananor
04/22/22 3:34:34 PM
#83:


Aecioo posted...
honestly, if you end up on a jury you're probably an idiot

or you're someone like biscuit who is fascinated by this stuff

but probably 99% are idiots who aren't smart enough to get out of jury duty
myself? i was being paid a monthly salary with unlimited PTO and incredibly bored with my job, so i probably qualified under both categories! don't think i'll be doing it again, though. can probably just list this experience to get myself kicked off any jury

they interviewed at least 150 jurors and i was towards the back of the line, so maybe the court was getting desperate

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Oh that is just weird. My understanding is most courts will at least give you the definition of the law in your jury instructions. This is just strange. But every court is very, very different, a lot of times in stupid ways.
yeah, it was odd. it felt like everything was more oriented around granting the appearance of legitimacy rather than actual legitimacy, to what was ultimately an arbitrary decision by a bunch of random unqualified humans in a room.

made me feel like the ultimate purpose of the justice system was simply to dissuade vigilante justice, as well as protect juries, lawyers and judges from revenge violence

redrocket posted...
This is the point where you just default to not guilty and call it a day I guess.
some people for sure had that attitude. others had the exact opposite and felt very strongly about it. we deliberated for a day and a half, and only came to a final decision because 3 people on the minority didn't want to have to come back on monday and ultimately browbeat the final 2

the fact that it was a self defense murder trial made it more interesting, i guess. i do think we ultimately came to a correct decision via the letter of the law in the end

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/22/22 3:36:15 PM
#84:


TheRock1525 posted...
So reading up on it, Depp never went to the police, instead going to his doctor and saying that he cut himself. Which would still line up with his claim that he lied to protect Amber at the time, but obviously muddies things.
Yeah, he wouldn't tell his doctors or nurses it was Amber because he didn't want her to get in trouble which... I mean, if you love someone that checks. It hits pretty close to my situation.

However, they showed a picture of the injured finger. His finger was literally blown off to the bone. You could see the actual bone sticking out. His claim he cut himself while cutting vegetables or the other claim he got it caught in a sliding door just cannot do that sort of thing.

He mentioned he told the surgeon he cut it and the surgeon said "Sir, this is an injury of velocity, not of a slice." It was thrown out for hearsay which they didn't fight to keep in, but the jury heard it.

The vodka bottle story is the only one that makes sense here.

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Darkinsanity1
04/22/22 3:38:42 PM
#85:


Unfortunately, victims of abuse protect their abusers all the time.

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04/22/22 3:39:48 PM
#86:


When I was I child I fell off my bunk-bed while deep asleep, smashing my jaw against a dresser on the way down. When I woke up I was dead-convinced I fell into a door since that's what was going on in my dreams and I could picture it vividly - I was really adamant about it when explained otherwise, partly because I also didn't wanna accept I fell off my bunk bed in fear of having to swap bunks with my brother.

When I went to school though I was questioned about the bruises, nobody believed the story I gave about falling into a door so CPS was called to investigate. I didn't really understand what the big deal was, and that everyone was assuming I was lying to protect my mom. Wasn't until later in life I realized it's because that's commonly what victims of abuse do.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/22/22 3:44:33 PM
#87:


Like let me be clear. That was the SECOND vodka bottle she threw at Johnny during that. He said he felt the first one whiz past his head when he wasn't looking and ducked out of instinct.

That first one could have killed him, dead. And she's incredibly fortunate that it didn't.

And even if you somehow convince someone "Okay, he did cut off his own finger." How do you explain away her putting out a cigarette into his face after that, which is a completely deliberate act?

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/22/22 4:23:47 PM
#88:


When you claim to always be carrying around a specific cosmetic concealer kit to hide your bruises during an entire relationship and the cosmetic company says "No fuck you, we didn't release this until you were broken up."

https://twitter.com/tasteofsanity/status/1517325335691472899?t=PkH70UG_bwMyYr3yBcBWaQ&s=19

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UshiromiyaEva
04/22/22 5:20:45 PM
#89:


What a musical choice for that.

PerfectChaosZ posted...
Johnnny Depp lost the UK and is just trying again in America. If it was anyone but Depp theyd be a laughing stock on the internet for literally losing and trying again in a different county. A ton of stuff Depp said has already been proven as lies like her cutting his finger and people are still regurgitating that like its true.

Dude chill Mera is like the worst Aquawoman anyways, they can just get Tula in there instead.

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Peace___Frog
04/22/22 6:34:11 PM
#90:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
What a musical choice for that.
It was a tiktok trend many moons ago

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BlueCrystalTear
04/22/22 6:56:40 PM
#91:


Darkinsanity1 posted...
Unfortunately, victims of abuse protect their abusers all the time.
I don't think they want to protect the abuser so much as protect themselves. Calling an abuser out is scary, because who knows how they'll blow up if you go "J'ACCUSE!" to them? They could get jailed for a bit, but what are they gonna do when they get out? What if they're found not guilty due to a lack of evidence? It's frightening. Fear is a powerful thing, and that's why abusers think they can get away with it. We need to find ways to protect abuse victims from their abusers. We also need to make sure they don't have to face their abuser in court, because that's also a nightmare. Record their disposition and submit it as evidence. (A defamation trial, like this is, is a completely different thing.)

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
When you claim to always be carrying around a specific cosmetic concealer kit to hide your bruises during an entire relationship and the cosmetic company says "No fuck you, we didn't release this until you were broken up."
Perhaps she was talking about the predecessor to the one in question - whatever Milani had out at the time. Per The Google, they've been around 20 years so one would think they'd have had something like it out then. They discontinued the old one in favor of the new one in 2017, and Amber might've forgotten having to find a new color or brand or whatever.

Still, it's yet another mark on her lack of credibility, and shows that her memory might not be so good.

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Waluigi1
04/22/22 7:12:29 PM
#92:


PerfectChaosZ posted...
Johnnny Depp lost the UK and is just trying again in America. If it was anyone but Depp theyd be a laughing stock on the internet for literally losing and trying again in a different county. A ton of stuff Depp said has already been proven as lies like her cutting his finger and people are still regurgitating that like its true.
May I ask for the evidence that he cut himself?

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XIII_rocks
04/22/22 7:22:36 PM
#93:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Tony, I clearly showed it as an example of how quickly she is turning the faces off and on.

You are free to watch it for yourself for the many times she's smirked and made smug faces while it's being recounted the awful things she's done to Johnny Depp.

I'm not denying the existence of those but the smile in the video you posted looked very much like somebody making polite conversation with someone nearby before returning to focus on the trial. Seemed like a reach to say it was evidence of falseness or what have you. That's just that specific video though.

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TheRock1525
04/22/22 7:35:16 PM
#94:


As someone who was nearly thrown in jail for making a completely harmless hand gesture in the gallery, I don't think we need to read much of anything into stuff like "how much was Amber Heard crying/smiling/etc.?"

I mean if you've been to funeral, you can see examples of people in absolute anguish where a temporary reprieve of happiness can wash over them before resuming to be upset.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/22/22 8:28:45 PM
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DAY 5

We start with the cross-examination of Joshua Betts, who was Johnny Depp's security guard. They basically just try to impeach his character with such little lies that it didn't feel all too effective. Depp's team did surprisingly well on objecting this time. Frankly, there wasn't much here. Heard's team just wanted to present that he was bias, which sure. Why wouldn't he be?

Next up was the testimony of Keenan Wyatt, who was a close friend of Johnny's and a personal sound technician for his films, and other ones. He worked on Pirates 5 with Johnny and established he was late because of arguments with Amber. The objections were absurd from Heard's team for this one. They used him to dispel this idea that Johnny was difficult to work with and that his injury ruined the filming, when he said they just sort of worked around it after a few weeks of delay. Interestingly, Wyatt plays music when Johnny is acting into an earpiece for him to get him in the mood. He's a unique actor like that. Apparently Johnny would go into make-up in the morning and re-write a lot of his lines and Wyatt would remind him of his lines since he didn't have much time to memorize the new lines. He talked him up as being a delight to work with for everyone around.

He described Johnny's sense of humor as dark, British humor like Monty Python, clearly to infer that the wild texts he sent that are dark have to do with that. He also went on vacation with him multiple times. But he also said Johnny Depp never abused or raised his voice to Amber or his previous wife or his children.

He was on that airplane ride where Johnny supposedly kicked Amber. He witnessed literally the whole thing and said there was no violence, which is also notable since he was facing them the whole time. At one point in a break with them fighting, Wyatt went up to Amber to try and make her feel better and she went off on him "How dare you talk to me?", prompting Johnny to tell him that she can't talk to Wyatt like that (it's a common trend that he tends to defend people from her rage). He also said Johnny wasn't drunk at all on the plane.

Elaine, the awful lawyer, does the cross examination on Wyatt, and she tried to get him to comment on his contracts which is outrageous. She tried to paint it as Wyatt lost jobs because Johnny wasn't getting work, which is absurd. She did an awful job trying to show his bias. He also saw Johnny talking to Sean Bailey, the director for Pirates 5, about doing future projects. Elaine got really, really shitty with this dude over him saying that Sean Bailey had worked with Depp for a Pirates 5 promotion at Disney Land. She basically tried to use him to proving Depp was already kicked from Disney before Amber Heard's accusations. The Judge let in too many questions after they were objected to and it just made her seem stupid. Re-cross with Depp's lawyers they just asked if he had more work on movies without Depp on them and he said yeah, so her entire cross was worthless.

Next up was the start of Johnny Depp's testimony!

He started off a bit nervous (who knows if it was acting) but then spoke more confidently. He seemed shy and trying to speak more colorfully about the awful things in his life, established from stories from his terrible childhood and through the rest of everything with Heard, so it comes across as believable. He also does a lot of smiling when he's nervous or trying to ponder a way to phrase things in a less awful manner.

He started off explaining the basis for the case and that he wanted to stand up for himself and his children and because things blew way out of proportion and wanted to clear his name and stop his children from having to hear about these lies Amber spread, and for those who he had given advice and had good times with to feel like they weren't lied to and that he wasn't a fraud.

He detailed his childhood and how his mother was incredibly abusive to them and his father, who was often screamed at and put down. He said his father would just take it. And that he would hit things to deal with it but never hit her, and he would most times try to walk away from the confrontations. He detailed the abuse his mother gave him and talked about how cruel she was, insulting any physical issues people had and just hitting him with whatever was handy. It's really rough.

He also commented on how his father left his mother one day, and he went to him and his father told him that he was the man now, and that it was up to him, and Johnny came back home and watched his mother pass out and almost die from attempted suicide with pills. His father also mentioned telling Johnny that he feels like he failed by leaving the relationship.

They objected at one point because Depp's team just wasn't asking questions and he just was allowed to have long monologues.

He also discussed how he knew how to raise children by doing the absolute opposite of his mother, and discussed his parenting philosophy to be gentle and kind, more or less.

They would then talk about Amber, who he described as smart, funny, understanding, and literate. He said the beginning of their relationship was amazing. And he said the first time he felt something was off was because she would take off his boots every day, and one day he took off his boots because she was busy and she got really upset and told him that taking off his boots is her job, and he does not do that.

He then went back to talk about how he was a musician in a band and Nicholas Cage of all people got him hooked up with his agent to audition for A Nightmare On Elm Street. He said he didn't take acting very seriously until he decided to make it his career, then he went in obsessively, talking about Captain Jack Sparrow and his creative process for that. It was pretty fascinating.

He said after the first Pirates movie his life changed in a huge way and he couldn't do anything as simple as going to get a cup of coffee anymore without being swarmed by people, talking about how hard it was to transition to that and how he's never gotten used to it. He says saying his own name is weird because it feels like promoting a product.

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/22/22 8:28:49 PM
#96:


And then he explained why his texts are absolutely fucking insane, is because he idolized Hunter S. Thompson, famed writer, with whom he became incredibly close with. (See: Fear & Loathing In Los Vegas & Rum Diary) He said when he was stressed he wanted to create, and his creating manifests into speaking in a expressive way and using dark humor. This makes complete sense looking at his angry texts, as well as his happy ones. They're all wild. "Pain has to be dealt with humor." He reiterated he was a fan of Monty Python. He explained that he regrets what he said in a lot of his texts, and seeing them written out and looking back at them that he was able to reflect on how awful they were. He felt so out of his mind in many situations and not sure how to explain them, which is why they sounded so off the wall.

Depp said his drug abuse started as a child because his mom told him to get her nerve pills, citing that they were meant to make her calm down. And he started taking pills at age 11 and said he did most drugs by age 15. He said he takes drugs a lot in the present to deal with a lot of his childhood trauma and keep calm. He said he never took uppers, he only took downers, to dispute the claim that he was a drugged up, high maniac. He said that he used to be teased after drinking or doing drugs because nobody could tell if he was high or anything. He expressed the only thing he was addicted to was Roxicodone, which is an opiate. He said he wasn't taking the pills when he was addicted to get high, he was taking them to get better because of the withdrawals. Said this lasted 4-5 years.

He discussed working on his first movie with Amber, The Rum Diary, which was his own personal project he tried to get made because of his adoration for Hunter S. Thompson. He detailed a little bit more about that.

And then he talked about building a little group of people living in his penthouses, mostly just giving Amber's sister and friends places to live for free. And that was it!

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BlueCrystalTear
04/22/22 9:39:29 PM
#97:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
They objected at one point because Depp's team just wasn't asking questions and he just was allowed to have long monologues.
This is a problem... why? My guess is that they're just trying to rattle him because they recognize they have no case. Amber's lawyers are only sabotaging their own character by objecting with "That... was... objectionable!"

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/22/22 11:46:07 PM
#98:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
This is a problem... why? My guess is that they're just trying to rattle him because they recognize they have no case. Amber's lawyers are only sabotaging their own character by objecting with "That... was... objectionable!"
Typically you can't just let a witness ramble on forever. They have to ask questions. They gave Johnny A LOT of leeway here if we're being honest, likely because they don't want to look like assholes for interrupting him while he's spilling his heart out.

I can't remember the type of objection that would be but it's a fair one.

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Team Rocket Elite
04/22/22 11:52:13 PM
#99:


Are there a lot of different types of objections?

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TheRock1525
04/22/22 11:56:38 PM
#100:


Team Rocket Elite posted...
Are there a lot of different types of objections?

Sure. There's "Hold It!" and "Take That!"

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UshiromiyaEva
04/22/22 11:57:12 PM
#101:


"Gotcha!"

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