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TheRock1525 04/22/22 11:58:06 PM #102:	"Silence!" --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:964499889] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>"Silence!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 04/22/22 11:58:28 PM #103:	"Not so fast!" --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/080/145/638.png <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:964499897] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>"Not so fast!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Team Rocket Elite 04/23/22 12:02:04 AM #104:	Such insolence. >_> --- My bracket looked like random picks compared to his. Congrats to azuarc for winning the GotD 2020 Guru Contest! <cite>Team Rocket Elite posted [p:964499955] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>Such insolence. >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 04/23/22 2:21:59 AM #105:	Team Rocket Elite posted... Are there a lot of different types of objections? Aside from the ones mentioned here... sorta. lol Major ones being used in this trial are: Hearsay: Nobody actually has the most solid interpretation of this one because it's so up for interpretation and preference of the parties and the judge, but more or less this objects to someone telling second-hand information. It's more complicated than that. Lack of Foundation: Objecting to not enough information being laid to show background/knowledge of whatever they want to discuss. These have been absurd in this trial. Compound: Objecting because they have asked multiple questions in their one question. Ex: "Is this water blue, wet, and has it melted a wicked witch?" You have to break them up. It's been used by Rottenborn being incredibly frustrated trying to break Johnny Depp. Asked & Answered: You ask a question that you more or less answer within the question as well. "Do you remember when you beat your wife?" You're trying a tricky question to get them to admit to something. Leading: You ask a question that is leading them to a conclusion. Ex: "The color of this pen was blue, right?" Instead of "What color was the pen?" Relevance: You ask a question that doesn't seem relevant to the case. Like asking Johnny Depp what car he drives, when it has no real purpose whatsoever. Speculation: You ask the witness to guess; they should only say what they actually know as a fact to what they saw/hear/etc. Usually used when guessing people's reasons for doing something. Other common ones are: Prejudicial: You ask a question that is irrelevant and meant to defame their character. Example from this trial actually: Them bringing up another lawsuit Johnny Depp was in in which he is being sued for punching someone on set. It has nothing to do with this case and shouldn't factor in to this case (but they keep trying to get it in). Argumentative: Arguing with a client until they give you an answer and basically berating them until they answer how they want. Also known as badgering a witness. Vague: You just asked a shitty question so open-ended it can't be answered. Non-Responsive: You use this against the witness, actually, where the witness seems to refuse to answer your question and answers a different question. Usually as a last resort to them evading your question. There is your objection primer! --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:964501755] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>Team Rocket Elite posted... </cite> <quote>Are there a lot of different types of objections?</quote>Aside from the ones mentioned here... sorta. lol Major ones being used in this trial are: Hearsay: Nobody actually has the most solid interpretation of this one because it's so up for interpretation and preference of the parties and the judge, but more or less this objects to someone telling second-hand information. It's more complicated than that. Lack of Foundation: Objecting to not enough information being laid to show background/knowledge of whatever they want to discuss. These have been absurd in this trial. Compound: Objecting because they have asked multiple questions in their one question. Ex: "Is this water blue, wet, and has it melted a wicked witch?" You have to break them up. It's been used by Rottenborn being incredibly frustrated trying to break Johnny Depp. Asked & Answered: You ask a question that you more or less answer within the question as well. "Do you remember when you beat your wife?" You're trying a tricky question to get them to admit to something. Leading: You ask a question that is leading them to a conclusion. Ex: "The color of this pen was blue, right?" Instead of "What color was the pen?" Relevance: You ask a question that doesn't seem relevant to the case. Like asking Johnny Depp what car he drives, when it has no real purpose whatsoever. Speculation: You ask the witness to guess; they should only say what they actually know as a fact to what they saw/hear/etc. Usually used when guessing people's reasons for doing something. Other common ones are: Prejudicial: You ask a question that is irrelevant and meant to defame their character. Example from this trial actually: Them bringing up another lawsuit Johnny Depp was in in which he is being sued for punching someone on set. It has nothing to do with this case and shouldn't factor in to this case (but they keep trying to get it in). Argumentative: Arguing with a client until they give you an answer and basically berating them until they answer how they want. Also known as badgering a witness. Vague: You just asked a shitty question so open-ended it can't be answered. Non-Responsive: You use this against the witness, actually, where the witness seems to refuse to answer your question and answers a different question. Usually as a last resort to them evading your question. There is your objection primer! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 04/23/22 4:11:23 AM #106:	"That's Enough!" --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:964502728] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>"That's Enough!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 04/23/22 6:02:06 AM #107:	PerfectChaosZ posted... Johnnny Depp lost the UK and is just trying again in America. If it was anyone but Depp theyd be a laughing stock on the internet for literally losing and trying again in a different county. A ton of stuff Depp said has already been proven as lies like her cutting his finger and people are still regurgitating that like its true. Braindead --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Smash Ultimate Switch Code: SW-6933-1523-8505 <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:964503562] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>PerfectChaosZ posted... </cite> <quote>Johnnny Depp lost the UK and is just trying again in America. If it was anyone but Depp theyd be a laughing stock on the internet for literally losing and trying again in a different county. A ton of stuff Depp said has already been proven as lies like her cutting his finger and people are still regurgitating that like its true.</quote> Braindead </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 04/23/22 5:47:45 PM #108:	DAY 6: Part 1 Johnny Depp's testimony continues! A note is that I learned Johnny has ADHD and that probably explains why he's a bit rambling. He recounts the boot incident again and says that was the start of the more aggressive way she spoke to him. He said certain things came up and then he was suddenly wrong about everything, including things about acting in which he had been in the industry for decades. She was also unable to be wrong and would send digs and insults his way constantly. He said at first he stood up for himself, and then he stopped because he knew he could never win. He said he would remove himself from the situation as he did when he was young and reiterated that. He also said he did not want to fail in the relationship, like his father told him that he felt after leaving his mother, and that Amber had threatened suicide many times during arguments if he left, which reminded him of his mother's suicide attempt after his father left. Depp also stated he took great pride in being a good father and that it was his one truest ambition, and that it was one thing Amber would say to set him off is "You're a terrible father" and repeat it over and over. He mentioned her screaming and crying to him when he was able to actually leave in front of the penthouse security as he was on the elevator, he would drive a far distance away to his other home, and then she would show in a nightgown after screaming outside for him. Johnny also said she lied about things she would say and do constantly the day after. Because of that, he would record her but ask for permission so he could play back things she said and did. However, Amber would always record him in secret. He mentioned Amber would often get mad at him for drinking, which he never understood because he never drank excessively. He said Amber would be drinking far, far more. And that he said that he stopped drinking for 18 months and he would ask her to stop drinking too to help his own sobriety and it would start another huge fight because she claimed she never had a problem. He remarked once he had a small glass of champagne during a celebration for Christopher Lee because photographers were there. He said he told Amber at dinner after that and she lost her mind on him. "Let me ask you another question Mr. Depp." "Yes, so he can object to another one." She hated that he got the WINONA FOREVER tattoo on him (for Winona Ryder, his close friend and former girlfriend). He felt it was very important to him, like all of his tattoos, but he did get it changed so she would stop and had it changed to WINO FOREVER as a joke since it hurt to get it changed and as he's stated, he used jokes to deal with pain. He said he was working 17-20 hour days for Black Mass and he got addicted to Roxicodone as a result. He detailed how awful the withdrawals were. And he brought up the infamous plane ride he supposedly blacked out and kicked her, but he said he never blacked out, he was just sleeping because of how many hours he was working. He detailed that flight where he she was just constantly trying to argue with him as he ignore it and sleep. And then eventually he grabbed a pillow and retreated to the bathroom and slept in there. He then talked about his detox experience. His sister was supposed to stay with him while he was detoxing, but instead she switched with Amber instead and he said he was very uncomfortable with her being the one to help him during it. He didn't want to get into arguments when he'd be completely miserable on a detox and that it would just be far more difficult. He also said that while he was trying to detox, she was still drinking heavily and doing drugs right in front of him. I've never had to detox from a drug addiction but it sounds like the worst thing ever. Amber had told the doctor and nurse she would administer the meds to help with detox. Depp said he was literally begging her for the meds, which you're supposed to take if the pain is absolutely unbearable, while he body was in complete agony and she would tell him that it wasn't the time. He tried to explain to her it wasn't about clocks, it was about when his body needed it. He said he had a scalding hot shower to trick his body into focusing on the pain from burning his skin when she refused to give him the meds. He then told his nurse and doctor about what happened and said she couldn't be around during his detox because she just wasn't administering it properly and they understood. Johnny asked Amber to please give him time to recover away from him while he dealt with it, and she accused him of trying to throw her out and not giving her credit for getting him as far as he has with the detox. He bought a place for the week for her and her friends to have a great time at and she reluctantly agreed to leave him alone for the rest of the detox, which went far more smoothly. He would then talk about how Amber was rushing the wedding and accusing him of not believing in them when he tried to get a pre-nuptial agreement, and she would just lose it each time he asked about a pre-nup. Not many people went to Johnny and Amber's wedding from Johnny's side. He had his son as his best man, and his daughter didn't show up because she and Amber were on awful terms. Skipping forward, he said neither of his children wanted to ever be around Amber because "My children are far smarter than I am." This wedding is fucking wild. They had a schedule sent out for when they would take drugs to party. He said he never did party drugs or drank alcohol and was just smoking weed. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:964515422] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>DAY 6: Part 1 Johnny Depp's testimony continues! A note is that I learned Johnny has ADHD and that probably explains why he's a bit rambling. He recounts the boot incident again and says that was the start of the more aggressive way she spoke to him. He said certain things came up and then he was suddenly wrong about everything, including things about acting in which he had been in the industry for decades. She was also unable to be wrong and would send digs and insults his way constantly. He said at first he stood up for himself, and then he stopped because he knew he could never win. He said he would remove himself from the situation as he did when he was young and reiterated that. He also said he did not want to fail in the relationship, like his father told him that he felt after leaving his mother, and that Amber had threatened suicide many times during arguments if he left, which reminded him of his mother's suicide attempt after his father left. Depp also stated he took great pride in being a good father and that it was his one truest ambition, and that it was one thing Amber would say to set him off is "You're a terrible father" and repeat it over and over. He mentioned her screaming and crying to him when he was able to actually leave in front of the penthouse security as he was on the elevator, he would drive a far distance away to his other home, and then she would show in a nightgown after screaming outside for him. Johnny also said she lied about things she would say and do constantly the day after. Because of that, he would record her but ask for permission so he could play back things she said and did. However, Amber would always record him in secret. He mentioned Amber would often get mad at him for drinking, which he never understood because he never drank excessively. He said Amber would be drinking far, far more. And that he said that he stopped drinking for 18 months and he would ask her to stop drinking too to help his own sobriety and it would start another huge fight because she claimed she never had a problem. He remarked once he had a small glass of champagne during a celebration for Christopher Lee because photographers were there. He said he told Amber at dinner after that and she lost her mind on him. "Let me ask you another question Mr. Depp." "Yes, so he can object to another one." She hated that he got the WINONA FOREVER tattoo on him (for Winona Ryder, his close friend and former girlfriend). He felt it was very important to him, like all of his tattoos, but he did get it changed so she would stop and had it changed to WINO FOREVER as a joke since it hurt to get it changed and as he's stated, he used jokes to deal with pain. He said he was working 17-20 hour days for Black Mass and he got addicted to Roxicodone as a result. He detailed how awful the withdrawals were. And he brought up the infamous plane ride he supposedly blacked out and kicked her, but he said he never blacked out, he was just sleeping because of how many hours he was working. He detailed that flight where he she was just constantly trying to argue with him as he ignore it and sleep. And then eventually he grabbed a pillow and retreated to the bathroom and slept in there. He then talked about his detox experience. His sister was supposed to stay with him while he was detoxing, but instead she switched with Amber instead and he said he was very uncomfortable with her being the one to help him during it. He didn't want to get into arguments when he'd be completely miserable on a detox and that it would just be far more difficult. He also said that while he was trying to detox, she was still drinking heavily and doing drugs right in front of him. I've never had to detox from a drug addiction but it sounds like the worst thing ever. Amber had told the doctor and nurse she would administer the meds to help with detox. Depp said he was literally begging her for the meds, which you're supposed to take if the pain is absolutely unbearable, while he body was in complete agony and she would tell him that it wasn't the time. He tried to explain to her it wasn't about clocks, it was about when his body needed it. He said he had a scalding hot shower to trick his body into focusing on the pain from burning his skin when she refused to give him the meds. He then told his nurse and doctor about what happened and said she couldn't be around during his detox because she just wasn't administering it properly and they understood. Johnny asked Amber to please give him time to recover away from him while he dealt with it, and she accused him of trying to throw her out and not giving her credit for getting him as far as he has with the detox. He bought a place for the week for her and her friends to have a great time at and she reluctantly agreed to leave him alone for the rest of the detox, which went far more smoothly. He would then talk about how Amber was rushing the wedding and accusing him of not believing in them when he tried to get a pre-nuptial agreement, and she would just lose it each time he asked about a pre-nup. Not many people went to Johnny and Amber's wedding from Johnny's side. He had his son as his best man, and his daughter didn't show up because she and Amber were on awful terms. Skipping forward, he said neither of his children wanted to ever be around Amber because "My children are far smarter than I am." This wedding is fucking wild. They had a schedule sent out for when they would take drugs to party. He said he never did party drugs or drank alcohol and was just smoking weed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 04/23/22 5:47:53 PM #109:	He also tried to get her to sign a post-nuptial agreement (which lol there ain't no way). He tried to get his lawyers to discuss it with her and dumb it down the legalese. This starts the day his finger was hit. Amber arrived livid, even after a long plane ride back, and told the lawyers that Johnny doesn't know about this agreement, and that there is no way he would agree with it. And she was livid because the one female attorney laughed at her and said "Oh, he knows. Trust me." Amber also leveraged that Johnny didn't have her in his will, when there wasn't even enough time to change it after their marriage yet. She called him an ass kisser to lawyers. He did end up calling the attorneys and told them off for treating Amber like that, but says he regrets it because he didn't believe her after the fact. After being stressed out of his mind from this, Johnny then went down to the rec room he has and grabbed hvodka and a shot glass and started screaming at him about drinking and grabbed his bottle of vodka and it whizzed right past his head and smashed on the wall behind him. He then got another vodka bottle as she's screaming at him, and his arm was hanging on the edge of the bar with his fingers dangling off the edge. She then grabbed a bigger bottle and threw it at his hand. Depp said he didn't feel pain at first, but then he looked down and the tip of his finger was blown off, and he said his finger was spurting blood like Vesuvius. He said he just had some kind of nervous breakdown after that, and he described it as being in disbelief that this was actually life. He described his manic breakdown and said he was writing out lies that she had told him on the walls with his blood, and when he ran out of blood, he put his blown off finger in a can of paint and used that which is horrifying to think about how much more that would make it hurt. He says he doesn't recall Amber's reaction, just that he heard a high pitched voice screaming and white noise. He texted Dr. Kippur after he finally calmed down to tell him to come over since he cut his finger. He says he lied about Amber having blown his finger off to keep her out of trouble. They also showed a picture of his finger and it absolutely could not have come from a cut or anything. It was absolutely blown apart. Just awful. He also brought up that she stomped out a cigarette on his face after he had his finger blown off, with a gnarly picture of his cheek in the surgery room to prove it. He mentioned to the surgeon he got it stuck in a folding door and said the surgeon looked at him like he was absurd and said "Sir, this is a wound of velocity." So when I say the tip of his finger, I'm talking about the underside of it, where the finger prints would be. It was absolutely hollowed out and they had to do a skin graft on it using skin from the palm of his hand. He specifically requested a pink bandage with hearts on it and showed a picture of him showing it off/giving the camera the bird. Matches with his sense of humor through this awful injury. He said he had that giant bandage on for the rest of the filming of Pirates 5. He also had a MURSA infection on his finger too. He took no opiates or roxycodone during this time. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:964515429] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>He also tried to get her to sign a post-nuptial agreement (which lol there ain't no way). He tried to get his lawyers to discuss it with her and dumb it down the legalese. This starts the day his finger was hit. Amber arrived livid, even after a long plane ride back, and told the lawyers that Johnny doesn't know about this agreement, and that there is no way he would agree with it. And she was livid because the one female attorney laughed at her and said "Oh, he knows. Trust me." Amber also leveraged that Johnny didn't have her in his will, when there wasn't even enough time to change it after their marriage yet. She called him an ass kisser to lawyers. He did end up calling the attorneys and told them off for treating Amber like that, but says he regrets it because he didn't believe her after the fact. After being stressed out of his mind from this, Johnny then went down to the rec room he has and grabbed hvodka and a shot glass and started screaming at him about drinking and grabbed his bottle of vodka and it whizzed right past his head and smashed on the wall behind him. He then got another vodka bottle as she's screaming at him, and his arm was hanging on the edge of the bar with his fingers dangling off the edge. She then grabbed a bigger bottle and threw it at his hand. Depp said he didn't feel pain at first, but then he looked down and the tip of his finger was blown off, and he said his finger was spurting blood like Vesuvius. He said he just had some kind of nervous breakdown after that, and he described it as being in disbelief that this was actually life. He described his manic breakdown and said he was writing out lies that she had told him on the walls with his blood, and when he ran out of blood, he put his blown off finger in a can of paint and used that which is horrifying to think about how much more that would make it hurt. He says he doesn't recall Amber's reaction, just that he heard a high pitched voice screaming and white noise. He texted Dr. Kippur after he finally calmed down to tell him to come over since he cut his finger. He says he lied about Amber having blown his finger off to keep her out of trouble. They also showed a picture of his finger and it absolutely could not have come from a cut or anything. It was absolutely blown apart. Just awful. He also brought up that she stomped out a cigarette on his face after he had his finger blown off, with a gnarly picture of his cheek in the surgery room to prove it. He mentioned to the surgeon he got it stuck in a folding door and said the surgeon looked at him like he was absurd and said "Sir, this is a wound of velocity." So when I say the tip of his finger, I'm talking about the underside of it, where the finger prints would be. It was absolutely hollowed out and they had to do a skin graft on it using skin from the palm of his hand. He specifically requested a pink bandage with hearts on it and showed a picture of him showing it off/giving the camera the bird. Matches with his sense of humor through this awful injury. He said he had that giant bandage on for the rest of the filming of Pirates 5. He also had a MURSA infection on his finger too. He took no opiates or roxycodone during this time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raka_Putra 04/23/22 6:40:35 PM #110:	Oh god that turned to body horror/gore pretty quickly. --- "So much love in his words." - RIP Stephen Sondheim, 1930-2021 <cite>Raka_Putra posted [p:964516622] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>Oh god that turned to body horror/gore pretty quickly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 04/23/22 6:50:06 PM #111:	I'm curious what Amber's defense is gonna be about the finger thing. Just simply claim she didn't do it, or offer some other explanation because apparently the have audio of Amber yelling at him not to cut his finger off which... how can you even confirm that? She could have recorded it any time. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:964516861] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>I'm curious what Amber's defense is gonna be about the finger thing. Just simply claim she didn't do it, or offer some other explanation because apparently the have audio of Amber yelling at him not to cut his finger off which... how can you even confirm that? She could have recorded it any time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 04/23/22 6:52:34 PM #112:	I dunno if this has been discussed, but I saw a video that mentioned that Amber's opening statement specifically stated that she was going to testify that she used a very specific makeup product to conceal bruises, but then the maker of the product came out and stated that said product didn't even exist until after the date that her allegations specify? --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:964516918] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>I dunno if this has been discussed, but I saw a video that mentioned that Amber's opening statement specifically stated that she was going to testify that she used a very specific makeup product to conceal bruises, but then the maker of the product came out and stated that said product didn't even exist until after the date that her allegations specify? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 04/23/22 6:59:27 PM #113:	TheRock1525 posted... I'm curious what Amber's defense is gonna be about the finger thing. Just simply claim she didn't do it, or offer some other explanation because apparently the have audio of Amber yelling at him not to cut his finger off which... how can you even confirm that? She could have recorded it any time. Her story she's given us that he slammed his phone on it. She also claimed he cut it while cutting vegetables. Her telling of that night, from what I've heard, is quite wild. The recording of her telling him not to cut himself is uh... Well there's a lot of context to that, completely removed of context when played. This was a bit after Amber got the restraining order, which she was begging him to break it and he did, stupidly. Keep in mind this was directly after his mother died, he was being bilked for around $700k from accountants who screwed him over. It was said he was playing that game where you stab the knife between your fingers and she's telling him not to cut himself and that he wanted to commit suicide because he gave a fucking death glare to this attorney when it was played before they left for the weekend. BUT they want to present it, presumably, as her being a caring wife when she was telling him he needs a sharper knife and getting him a sharper knife. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:964517047] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>TheRock1525 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm curious what Amber's defense is gonna be about the finger thing. Just simply claim she didn't do it, or offer some other explanation because apparently the have audio of Amber yelling at him not to cut his finger off which... how can you even confirm that? She could have recorded it any time.</quote>Her story she's given us that he slammed his phone on it. She also claimed he cut it while cutting vegetables. Her telling of that night, from what I've heard, is quite wild. The recording of her telling him not to cut himself is uh... Well there's a lot of context to that, completely removed of context when played. This was a bit after Amber got the restraining order, which she was begging him to break it and he did, stupidly. Keep in mind this was directly after his mother died, he was being bilked for around $700k from accountants who screwed him over. It was said he was playing that game where you stab the knife between your fingers and she's telling him not to cut himself and that he wanted to commit suicide because he gave a fucking death glare to this attorney when it was played before they left for the weekend. BUT they want to present it, presumably, as her being a caring wife when she was telling him he needs a sharper knife and getting him a sharper knife. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raka_Putra 04/23/22 7:04:22 PM #114:	I hope they try to defend it as "sharper knife would give Mr. Depp a cleaner cut that's easier to heal and disinfect". --- "So much love in his words." - RIP Stephen Sondheim, 1930-2021 <cite>Raka_Putra posted [p:964517136] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>I hope they try to defend it as "sharper knife would give Mr. Depp a cleaner cut that's easier to heal and disinfect". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 04/23/22 7:11:39 PM #115:	StealThisSheen posted... I dunno if this has been discussed, but I saw a video that mentioned that Amber's opening statement specifically stated that she was going to testify that she used a very specific makeup product to conceal bruises, but then the maker of the product came out and stated that said product didn't even exist until after the date that her allegations specify? Yuuuup. They might claim it wasn't the same one, but Elaine the really bad attorney, made very clear it was the same exact one and held it in the juror's faces and said that Amber had a process for how common she was bruised that she knew exactly what combination to use for each day of bruising. Which wouldn't be the case if it was a different one. Also that specific one is in evidence cited as the one she used. So if they try to completely pretend like they never mentioned it, it can be brought up on cross examination by Depp's team. "Oops." Also, Depp's team can also get information directly from the company to present to prove their point and that is information from outside the case so it can be presented as factual information. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:964517290] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite> <quote>I dunno if this has been discussed, but I saw a video that mentioned that Amber's opening statement specifically stated that she was going to testify that she used a very specific makeup product to conceal bruises, but then the maker of the product came out and stated that said product didn't even exist until after the date that her allegations specify?</quote>Yuuuup. They might claim it wasn't the same one, but Elaine the really bad attorney, made very clear it was the same exact one and held it in the juror's faces and said that Amber had a process for how common she was bruised that she knew exactly what combination to use for each day of bruising. Which wouldn't be the case if it was a different one. Also that specific one is in evidence cited as the one she used. So if they try to completely pretend like they never mentioned it, it can be brought up on cross examination by Depp's team. "Oops." Also, Depp's team can also get information directly from the company to present to prove their point and that is information from outside the case so it can be presented as factual information. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Strikes 04/23/22 7:43:31 PM #116:	Im trying to not make comments as I think there are very bad people pushing both narratives for negative reasons but I will say this: this is not trying again from the UK trial. This is about a different claim. Also the UK trial was against The Sun, while this is against Heard directly. Now, I have no love for Depp and think its likely that he was at some point abusive as well as being abused. With that said The Sun is a poison on society and democracy and it winning anything is no victory regardless of what you think about Depp or whoever else. For a bit of context the English (not UK as each country has different legal systems) libel laws were changed some years ago under the coalition government to make libel harder to prove so that the burden is on the claimant instead of the defendant in the case. This was intended to protect individuals and journalists from huge companies like in the McLibel case, but also lets the gutter press have an easier time. You win some you lose some I suppose. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:964518049] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>Im trying to not make comments as I think there are very bad people pushing both narratives for negative reasons but I will say this: this is not trying again from the UK trial. This is about a different claim. Also the UK trial was against The Sun, while this is against Heard directly. Now, I have no love for Depp and think its likely that he was at some point abusive as well as being abused. With that said The Sun is a poison on society and democracy and it winning anything is no victory regardless of what you think about Depp or whoever else. For a bit of context the English (not UK as each country has different legal systems) libel laws were changed some years ago under the coalition government to make libel harder to prove so that the burden is on the claimant instead of the defendant in the case. This was intended to protect individuals and journalists from huge companies like in the McLibel case, but also lets the gutter press have an easier time. You win some you lose some I suppose. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 04/23/22 7:54:26 PM #117:	StealThisSheen posted... I dunno if this has been discussed, but I saw a video that mentioned that Amber's opening statement specifically stated that she was going to testify that she used a very specific makeup product to conceal bruises, but then the maker of the product came out and stated that said product didn't even exist until after the date that her allegations specify? I believe the argument now was that she was using the predecessor to the same makeup and she might have confused the two. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:964518323] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite> <quote>I dunno if this has been discussed, but I saw a video that mentioned that Amber's opening statement specifically stated that she was going to testify that she used a very specific makeup product to conceal bruises, but then the maker of the product came out and stated that said product didn't even exist until after the date that her allegations specify?</quote> I believe the argument now was that she was using the predecessor to the same makeup and she might have confused the two. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 04/23/22 8:09:08 PM #118:	TheRock1525 posted... I believe the argument now was that she was using the predecessor to the same makeup and she might have confused the two. Which probably won't fly in court, since, as the lawyer presented it, they were so confident it was that specific one. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:964518643] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>TheRock1525 posted... </cite> <quote>I believe the argument now was that she was using the predecessor to the same makeup and she might have confused the two.</quote> Which probably won't fly in court, since, as the lawyer presented it, they were so confident it was that specific one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 04/23/22 8:09:43 PM #119:	Lightning Strikes posted... For a bit of context the English (not UK as each country has different legal systems) libel laws were changed some years ago under the coalition government to make libel harder to prove so that the burden is on the claimant instead of the defendant in the case. This was intended to protect individuals and journalists from huge companies like in the McLibel case, but also lets the gutter press have an easier time. You win some you lose some I suppose. Thanks for this! It adds a more understanding on the decision on The Sun case. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:964518661] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>Lightning Strikes posted... </cite> <quote>For a bit of context the English (not UK as each country has different legal systems) libel laws were changed some years ago under the coalition government to make libel harder to prove so that the burden is on the claimant instead of the defendant in the case. This was intended to protect individuals and journalists from huge companies like in the McLibel case, but also lets the gutter press have an easier time. You win some you lose some I suppose.</quote>Thanks for this! It adds a more understanding on the decision on The Sun case. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 04/23/22 9:11:31 PM #120:	StealThisSheen posted... Which probably won't fly in court, since, as the lawyer presented it, they were so confident it was that specific one. Does "flying in court" matter if there's a jury? --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:964520023] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite> <quote>Which probably won't fly in court, since, as the lawyer presented it, they were so confident it was that specific one.</quote>Does "flying in court" matter if there's a jury? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 04/23/22 9:13:15 PM #121:	Peace___Frog posted... Does "flying in court" matter if there's a jury? I mean, presumably, yes. A jury is supposed to regard the facts. If the fact is said makeup didn't even exist at the time, that's very hard to ignore. Furthermore, I'd assume said testimony could be thrown out completely by the judge. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:964520054] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>Peace___Frog posted... </cite> <quote>Does "flying in court" matter if there's a jury?</quote> I mean, presumably, yes. A jury is supposed to regard the facts. If the fact is said makeup didn't even exist at the time, that's very hard to ignore. Furthermore, I'd assume said testimony could be thrown out completely by the judge. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 04/23/22 10:08:05 PM #122:	StealThisSheen posted... I mean, presumably, yes. A jury is supposed to regard the facts. If the fact is said makeup didn't even exist at the time, that's very hard to ignore. Furthermore, I'd assume said testimony could be thrown out completely by the judge. All true except for the testimony being thrown out. It takes a lot to find actual impeachment worth throwing out. Depp's lawyers would have to move for it to be stricken, and it's far more useful for them to show she's a liar, since that's what their whole case it based on. Just being able, in closing arguments, point to the concealer kit they used in their opening statement and say "They stood up here and LIED to you about this, like they lied about everything else!" is far more significant. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:964521253] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite> <quote>I mean, presumably, yes. A jury is supposed to regard the facts. If the fact is said makeup didn't even exist at the time, that's very hard to ignore. Furthermore, I'd assume said testimony could be thrown out completely by the judge.</quote>All true except for the testimony being thrown out. It takes a lot to find actual impeachment worth throwing out. Depp's lawyers would have to move for it to be stricken, and it's far more useful for them to show she's a liar, since that's what their whole case it based on. Just being able, in closing arguments, point to the concealer kit they used in their opening statement and say "They stood up here and LIED to you about this, like they lied about everything else!" is far more significant. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 04/24/22 1:33:28 AM #123:	Lightning Strikes posted... think its likely that he was at some point abusive as well as being abused. They are gonna attack you like they attacked me now! ahhh! --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:964524925] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>Lightning Strikes posted... </cite> <quote>think its likely that he was at some point abusive as well as being abused.</quote>They are gonna attack you like they attacked me now! ahhh! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
banananor 04/24/22 2:10:43 AM #124:	Little finicky gotchas like that don't play well with juries, I think common example is when victims/witnesses describe the wrong color of pants worn by the defendant --- You did indeed stab me in the back. However, you are only level one, whilst I am level 50. That means I should remain uninjured. <cite>banananor posted [p:964525483] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>Little finicky gotchas like that don't play well with juries, I think common example is when victims/witnesses describe the wrong color of pants worn by the defendant </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 04/24/22 2:20:02 AM #125:	banananor posted... Little finicky gotchas like that don't play well with juries, I think common example is when victims/witnesses describe the wrong color of pants worn by the defendant I mean it only matters if it's a part of a series of lies. By itself it's nothing, obviously. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:964525592] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>banananor posted... </cite> <quote>Little finicky gotchas like that don't play well with juries, I think common example is when victims/witnesses describe the wrong color of pants worn by the defendant</quote> I mean it only matters if it's a part of a series of lies. By itself it's nothing, obviously. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 04/24/22 2:21:43 AM #126:	DAY 6: Part 2 We're back and Johnny Depp continues his testimony. He says the picture of him with a bruise on his face from a "staircase incident" in which Amber described as Johnny Depp supposedly trying to shove Amber's sister down a flight of stairs and her heroically "hitting him in the face". Thing is, he still had this awful bandage on his hand, and they have a picture of the bruise on his face from this, and he says Amber's sister was between the both of them, so it was not possible for him to be pushing her down any stairs, and that Amber just sucker punched him around her sister. And that Amber's sister got between them, trying to stop Amber. They play an audio recording from another day in which Amber Heard doesn't remember kicking a bathroom door into his head. It's significant because they keep claiming Johnny doesn't remember anything, when Amber is claiming on the audio recording that she doesn't remember because she was on Ambien and that Johnny needs to stop obsessing about her not remembering stuff. And that she calls him a coward for walking away from an argument constantly and Johnny trying to reason with her about how they need time to cool down during arguments. She also admits on audio recording that she throws pots and pans. "Just because I throw pots and pans does not mean you can knock on the door! They're not the same thing! It doesn't make it right for you to come to my door and knock on it!" Amber is unhinged in these recordings. Just no logic at all. So much emotional manipulation too. And then they play a recording of her saying she hit him, and she doesn't remember how she hit him, but that it was absolutely not a punch, and that she's sorry she didn't hit him with a proper slap instead. And she calls him a baby. She is deranged. He says these audio recordings are the tone of the vast majority of their fights and that he could never get a word in. The incident with the door, Depp describes, as him taking a shower and her banging on the door repeatedly and he inched the door open, holding it tight because he didn't want her to come in. She tried to force her way in and he kept trying to close it slowly. She yelped in pain and he thought her foot got caught in the door. So he knelt down while the door was not fully closed and she kicked the bathroom door into his head. There was a picture to match. He stood up and said "What the fuck was that?" And she punched him right in the face. Then she lied to someone who came to check on him (owner of the property, I think?). He recounts another story in which she was beating the shit out of him to the point he had to duck down and shield himself, and he grabbed her in a bearhug to keep her from hitting. She kept trying to kick and knee him and their heads bumped together in the commotion. She screamed that he headbutt her and broke her nose. He reiterates their forehead just bumped together, and he tried telling her he didn't even hit her nose. She ran away for 7-8 minutes and came back with a tissue under her nose and showed it to him with some redness on it. She then said, "Way to go Johnny! You broke my nose!" He asked to check her nose and she refused to let him. He tried to calm her down so she would throw out the tissue, because he didn't believe her, and he dug it out of the trash when she got rid of it, and she just put red nail polish on the tissue to pretend her nose was broken. Johnny recounted another time where Amber waited until people were gone and threw a mineral spirits bottle at his face, and some staff members had seen it and were shocked. They kept objecting when Depp was trying to explain the staff members were actually shocked. He was stunned for a few minutes before leaving. "Amber asked the chef what she wanted to eat, but I suppose that's hearsay." lol On Amber's birthday in 2016, Johnny Depp had a severe financial emergency in which his accountants screwed him out of hundreds of thousands of dollars. He apologized for being late to her party because he had to deal with this, because it affects his children and her as well if he's getting bilked for cash by these shitty accountants. He said he only had one bottle of wine at the meeting. When he arrived, she would occasionally say to him "I can't believe you did this on my birthday" when people weren't able to see. "I'm sure that because I was an hour and forty minutes late that Ms. Heard was well into the wine before I got there." He said when the guests left, she was free to commence her typical dressing down of him, berating him for being late to her birthday party. He said as he was being screamed at, trying to egg him on into a fight when he was exhausted from the time and stress of dealing with the financial issue, he just went to lay in bed. She followed him to bed as he was trying to read and started to scream at him again, but he ignored her. She went around and got in front of him and started hitting him again. He took her by the arms and sat her down on the bed and said he was leaving. She raced to the doorway and stood in front of it, telling him he couldn't leave. He eventually asked if she wanted to hit him, to go ahead. So she punched him in the face. He asked if she wanted to hit him again, and she did. Then he said she's gotten it out of her system and walked her over to the bed again and left. He decided then that he wanted to leave the relationship. After that, he left to go take care of his sick mother who was at death's door. At one point he wanted to go get his things since Amber was at Coachella and Joshua Bett, his security guy, told him that wouldn't be a good idea. Amber's attorneys tried to object, but it was rejected. So Johnny said Joshua Bett showed him a photograph with "human fecal matter" on his side of the bed. He said he laughed in disbelief because of how grotesque and bizarre it was. So he continued to stay and talk in length about his mother passing and having to watch her in that state. He called Amber the day his mother died and told her that he made the decision to leave her, but wasn't going to cite violence or irreconcilable differences or anything. And it would be a release from each other with love and with ownership of their relationship. This takes us to the day before Amber Heard filed for restraining order, where she claimed to have been hit. He went over to collect some things and have a discussion with her and thought she would understand him if they talked about it. He asked his security to stay by the door, and if they heard anything to enter the penthouse immediately. Eventually, she brought up the poop situation. She tried to blame it on the dogs, but they're teacup yorkies and the poop was bigger than they were. He called the poop a "grumpy" at one point which slayed me. But while he was gathering things, she called one of her friends to laugh and make fun of Johnny for actually thinking it was a human poo and not the dogs, and he had enough because his mother had just died the day before and felt he didn't deserved to be ridiculed like that. He took the phone from Amber and said "You can have her now" to her friend and he tossed the phone aside onto the couch harmlessly. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:964525615] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>DAY 6: Part 2 We're back and Johnny Depp continues his testimony. He says the picture of him with a bruise on his face from a "staircase incident" in which Amber described as Johnny Depp supposedly trying to shove Amber's sister down a flight of stairs and her heroically "hitting him in the face". Thing is, he still had this awful bandage on his hand, and they have a picture of the bruise on his face from this, and he says Amber's sister was between the both of them, so it was not possible for him to be pushing her down any stairs, and that Amber just sucker punched him around her sister. And that Amber's sister got between them, trying to stop Amber. They play an audio recording from another day in which Amber Heard doesn't remember kicking a bathroom door into his head. It's significant because they keep claiming Johnny doesn't remember anything, when Amber is claiming on the audio recording that she doesn't remember because she was on Ambien and that Johnny needs to stop obsessing about her not remembering stuff. And that she calls him a coward for walking away from an argument constantly and Johnny trying to reason with her about how they need time to cool down during arguments. She also admits on audio recording that she throws pots and pans. "Just because I throw pots and pans does not mean you can knock on the door! They're not the same thing! It doesn't make it right for you to come to my door and knock on it!" Amber is unhinged in these recordings. Just no logic at all. So much emotional manipulation too. And then they play a recording of her saying she hit him, and she doesn't remember how she hit him, but that it was absolutely not a punch, and that she's sorry she didn't hit him with a proper slap instead. And she calls him a baby. She is deranged. He says these audio recordings are the tone of the vast majority of their fights and that he could never get a word in. The incident with the door, Depp describes, as him taking a shower and her banging on the door repeatedly and he inched the door open, holding it tight because he didn't want her to come in. She tried to force her way in and he kept trying to close it slowly. She yelped in pain and he thought her foot got caught in the door. So he knelt down while the door was not fully closed and she kicked the bathroom door into his head. There was a picture to match. He stood up and said "What the fuck was that?" And she punched him right in the face. Then she lied to someone who came to check on him (owner of the property, I think?). He recounts another story in which she was beating the shit out of him to the point he had to duck down and shield himself, and he grabbed her in a bearhug to keep her from hitting. She kept trying to kick and knee him and their heads bumped together in the commotion. She screamed that he headbutt her and broke her nose. He reiterates their forehead just bumped together, and he tried telling her he didn't even hit her nose. She ran away for 7-8 minutes and came back with a tissue under her nose and showed it to him with some redness on it. She then said, "Way to go Johnny! You broke my nose!" He asked to check her nose and she refused to let him. He tried to calm her down so she would throw out the tissue, because he didn't believe her, and he dug it out of the trash when she got rid of it, and she just put red nail polish on the tissue to pretend her nose was broken. Johnny recounted another time where Amber waited until people were gone and threw a mineral spirits bottle at his face, and some staff members had seen it and were shocked. They kept objecting when Depp was trying to explain the staff members were actually shocked. He was stunned for a few minutes before leaving. "Amber asked the chef what she wanted to eat, but I suppose that's hearsay." lol On Amber's birthday in 2016, Johnny Depp had a severe financial emergency in which his accountants screwed him out of hundreds of thousands of dollars. He apologized for being late to her party because he had to deal with this, because it affects his children and her as well if he's getting bilked for cash by these shitty accountants. He said he only had one bottle of wine at the meeting. When he arrived, she would occasionally say to him "I can't believe you did this on my birthday" when people weren't able to see. "I'm sure that because I was an hour and forty minutes late that Ms. Heard was well into the wine before I got there." He said when the guests left, she was free to commence her typical dressing down of him, berating him for being late to her birthday party. He said as he was being screamed at, trying to egg him on into a fight when he was exhausted from the time and stress of dealing with the financial issue, he just went to lay in bed. She followed him to bed as he was trying to read and started to scream at him again, but he ignored her. She went around and got in front of him and started hitting him again. He took her by the arms and sat her down on the bed and said he was leaving. She raced to the doorway and stood in front of it, telling him he couldn't leave. He eventually asked if she wanted to hit him, to go ahead. So she punched him in the face. He asked if she wanted to hit him again, and she did. Then he said she's gotten it out of her system and walked her over to the bed again and left. He decided then that he wanted to leave the relationship. After that, he left to go take care of his sick mother who was at death's door. At one point he wanted to go get his things since Amber was at Coachella and Joshua Bett, his security guy, told him that wouldn't be a good idea. Amber's attorneys tried to object, but it was rejected. So Johnny said Joshua Bett showed him a photograph with "human fecal matter" on his side of the bed. He said he laughed in disbelief because of how grotesque and bizarre it was. So he continued to stay and talk in length about his mother passing and having to watch her in that state. He called Amber the day his mother died and told her that he made the decision to leave her, but wasn't going to cite violence or irreconcilable differences or anything. And it would be a release from each other with love and with ownership of their relationship. This takes us to the day before Amber Heard filed for restraining order, where she claimed to have been hit. He went over to collect some things and have a discussion with her and thought she would understand him if they talked about it. He asked his security to stay by the door, and if they heard anything to enter the penthouse immediately. Eventually, she brought up the poop situation. She tried to blame it on the dogs, but they're teacup yorkies and the poop was bigger than they were. He called the poop a "grumpy" at one point which slayed me. But while he was gathering things, she called one of her friends to laugh and make fun of Johnny for actually thinking it was a human poo and not the dogs, and he had enough because his mother had just died the day before and felt he didn't deserved to be ridiculed like that. He took the phone from Amber and said "You can have her now" to her friend and he tossed the phone aside onto the couch harmlessly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 04/24/22 2:21:48 AM #127:	Then he said he was 20 feet away from Amber in another room and a different friend of Amber's ran into the home and screamed "Leave her alone, Johnny! Leave her alone!" And while Amber was still in the other room on the phone with her friend, she started screaming "Stop hitting me Johnny! Stop hitting me!" in a freaked out voice. And then Johnny's security ran in and she noticed them and said "That's the last time you'll ever hit me again!" while he's still 20 feet away from her. They took him away and he said that was the last time he saw her until she asked him to break the restraining order a couple months later. So basically, he says she was trying to set him up and ambush him. Next up, they play a recording where Amber Heard told Johnny Depp he hopes that his son's step father can teach him how to be a man, because his step father has more manliness in his left nut. "How often did Amber bring your children into your arguments?" "Too often." He reiterates they are far more intelligent than he is and wouldn't be around her because of how they treated her, and that his daughter wrote a letter stating as much to Amber. He said the day Amber had claimed she was being abused was the same day he was attending his daughter's birthday and the same day Alice In Wonderland 2 was debuting, which he was in. She knew he was out of the city when Amber decided to announce he had abused her. She convinced him not to file for divorce before him so "nobody would know", and stated that she only pretended to be abused because her lawyers told her to, which all makes no sense. All of this kind of had to be reigned in by Depp's attorney, who used exhibits to make sure all the details got in there. Good work on her part. Depp also stated he had never been accused of hitting a woman before this, and that slowly his calls became fewer and fewer from agents and other folks like that. He could only talk to his closest friends with it, and just didn't talk to most anyone else about it and was so hurt he just didn't talk to many people in general. He said his team told him that the only way to really get his life back on track, despite him wanting to fight back against these allegations, was to just go through with the divorce and put out a joint statement. They agreed to a $7 million settlement, and the lawyers wrote the joint statement, not them. He has no idea who actually wrote it. Amber had said in interviews half of the money would go to ACLU and the other half to a Children's Hospital, which was a violation of the agreement since neither were supposed to talk about their divorce proceedings. When she did, Johnny had the first of those payments sent to the organizations in her name, and she called absolutely livid and that she deserved $14 million because of that. (Spoilers: she never actually donated a cent of it) He discussed the Washington Post article in which she mentioned the domestic abuse and he said he agreed with many things in the article in terms of violence against women, but not about her claiming that she was abused by him. He's not outright stated, but anyone would reasonably know she was talking about him. He says Disney officially cut him off of Pirates 6 after that. When asked what he lost as a result of Amber's claims, he said "Nothing less than everything" and elaborated that she painted him as some insane, woman beating, cocaine-fueled maniac which wasn't true at all. He said that even if he wins this trial, he still loses because he has to live with that label over him. That's the end of his testimony! And with 15 minutes left, they were ready to pack up for the day, but Amber's attorney Rottenborn says he would like to make use of these 15 minutes and get started with the cross examination. And honestly? It was a great play for him. He's a good lawyer with monumentally bad facts in this case. Because you see, Johnny hates this man. I don't know what happened prior to this, but he hates him so much, and it was clear from when they started talking. Rottenborn started by going over the article. He showed a weird newspaper version of the article with a different title, and Johnny pointed out he had never seen this version--only the online version, and that the paper version came out days later. Rottenborn tried to get him to make a legal claim that he can't sue her for the article, which was just odd and they should have objected to that. It's not his job to decide. See, they're going for the angle that Johnny wasn't specifically named in the article, therefore he should not win this case as a result. Which... I mean, fair. But Johnny rightfully says that the article contains fragments of her claims against him. He pointed out that the article stated "2 years ago, I became the public face for violence against women" and told Rottenborn that it was easy to figure out what she was referring to, "no matter his angle". Depp said he would have to be a simpleton to think that this article had no effect on his career, while Rottenborn is alluding that Disney decided to oust his involvement in Pirates 6 before that. Rottenborn ended by saying that joint statement I mentioned earlier, he signed off on was admission of him admitting he abused her. Johnny was losing his cool, clearly, and probably because he was annoyed by having to answer these questions, and probably because he's tired after having to explain the awful things his wife had done to him for 6 hours. It picks up the next day with the cross examination! --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:964525616] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>Then he said he was 20 feet away from Amber in another room and a different friend of Amber's ran into the home and screamed "Leave her alone, Johnny! Leave her alone!" And while Amber was still in the other room on the phone with her friend, she started screaming "Stop hitting me Johnny! Stop hitting me!" in a freaked out voice. And then Johnny's security ran in and she noticed them and said "That's the last time you'll ever hit me again!" while he's still 20 feet away from her. They took him away and he said that was the last time he saw her until she asked him to break the restraining order a couple months later. So basically, he says she was trying to set him up and ambush him. Next up, they play a recording where Amber Heard told Johnny Depp he hopes that his son's step father can teach him how to be a man, because his step father has more manliness in his left nut. "How often did Amber bring your children into your arguments?" "Too often." He reiterates they are far more intelligent than he is and wouldn't be around her because of how they treated her, and that his daughter wrote a letter stating as much to Amber. He said the day Amber had claimed she was being abused was the same day he was attending his daughter's birthday and the same day Alice In Wonderland 2 was debuting, which he was in. She knew he was out of the city when Amber decided to announce he had abused her. She convinced him not to file for divorce before him so "nobody would know", and stated that she only pretended to be abused because her lawyers told her to, which all makes no sense. All of this kind of had to be reigned in by Depp's attorney, who used exhibits to make sure all the details got in there. Good work on her part. Depp also stated he had never been accused of hitting a woman before this, and that slowly his calls became fewer and fewer from agents and other folks like that. He could only talk to his closest friends with it, and just didn't talk to most anyone else about it and was so hurt he just didn't talk to many people in general. He said his team told him that the only way to really get his life back on track, despite him wanting to fight back against these allegations, was to just go through with the divorce and put out a joint statement. They agreed to a $7 million settlement, and the lawyers wrote the joint statement, not them. He has no idea who actually wrote it. Amber had said in interviews half of the money would go to ACLU and the other half to a Children's Hospital, which was a violation of the agreement since neither were supposed to talk about their divorce proceedings. When she did, Johnny had the first of those payments sent to the organizations in her name, and she called absolutely livid and that she deserved $14 million because of that. (Spoilers: she never actually donated a cent of it) He discussed the Washington Post article in which she mentioned the domestic abuse and he said he agreed with many things in the article in terms of violence against women, but not about her claiming that she was abused by him. He's not outright stated, but anyone would reasonably know she was talking about him. He says Disney officially cut him off of Pirates 6 after that. When asked what he lost as a result of Amber's claims, he said "Nothing less than everything" and elaborated that she painted him as some insane, woman beating, cocaine-fueled maniac which wasn't true at all. He said that even if he wins this trial, he still loses because he has to live with that label over him. That's the end of his testimony! And with 15 minutes left, they were ready to pack up for the day, but Amber's attorney Rottenborn says he would like to make use of these 15 minutes and get started with the cross examination. And honestly? It was a great play for him. He's a good lawyer with monumentally bad facts in this case. Because you see, Johnny hates this man. I don't know what happened prior to this, but he hates him so much, and it was clear from when they started talking. Rottenborn started by going over the article. He showed a weird newspaper version of the article with a different title, and Johnny pointed out he had never seen this version--only the online version, and that the paper version came out days later. Rottenborn tried to get him to make a legal claim that he can't sue her for the article, which was just odd and they should have objected to that. It's not his job to decide. See, they're going for the angle that Johnny wasn't specifically named in the article, therefore he should not win this case as a result. Which... I mean, fair. But Johnny rightfully says that the article contains fragments of her claims against him. He pointed out that the article stated "2 years ago, I became the public face for violence against women" and told Rottenborn that it was easy to figure out what she was referring to, "no matter his angle". Depp said he would have to be a simpleton to think that this article had no effect on his career, while Rottenborn is alluding that Disney decided to oust his involvement in Pirates 6 before that. Rottenborn ended by saying that joint statement I mentioned earlier, he signed off on was admission of him admitting he abused her. Johnny was losing his cool, clearly, and probably because he was annoyed by having to answer these questions, and probably because he's tired after having to explain the awful things his wife had done to him for 6 hours. It picks up the next day with the cross examination! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 04/24/22 2:26:08 AM #128:	banananor posted... Little finicky gotchas like that don't play well with juries, I think common example is when victims/witnesses describe the wrong color of pants worn by the defendant It's a little different when in the opening statement it is thrown in the jury's face while this mad woman shrieks at you about how her client carried this same, exact concealer, and how she was going to testify the exact combination of colors to conceal her bruise based on each day of healing. Like, they literally said it was the exact one and that Amber was going to show them each color combination she used, and it was so important that it warranted it being shoved in their face. It was hardly a minor thing. They claimed it was a massive part of their defense, this very specific concealer kit. And it was offered into evidence as the very same one that she had supposedly been carrying around for the entire duration of their relationship. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:964525656] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>banananor posted... </cite> <quote>Little finicky gotchas like that don't play well with juries, I think common example is when victims/witnesses describe the wrong color of pants worn by the defendant</quote>It's a little different when in the opening statement it is thrown in the jury's face while this mad woman shrieks at you about how her client carried this same, exact concealer, and how she was going to testify the exact combination of colors to conceal her bruise based on each day of healing. Like, they literally said it was the exact one and that Amber was going to show them each color combination she used, and it was so important that it warranted it being shoved in their face. It was hardly a minor thing. They claimed it was a massive part of their defense, this very specific concealer kit. And it was offered into evidence as the very same one that she had supposedly been carrying around for the entire duration of their relationship. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 04/24/22 3:37:54 AM #129:	Yeah, they made it a really huge deal. It's less like a victim/witness misremembering the color of pants, and more like if the lawyer of the victim/witness ranted and raved about the defendant's green pants, and how they wore green pants every day, and they were going to show exactly how they knew it was them because of how green their green pants were, and then it turns out it was impossible for the defendant to ever wear green pants for some reason. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:964526378] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, they made it a really huge deal. It's less like a victim/witness misremembering the color of pants, and more like if the lawyer of the victim/witness ranted and raved about the defendant's green pants, and how they wore green pants every day, and they were going to show exactly how they knew it was them because of how green their green pants were, and then it turns out it was impossible for the defendant to ever wear green pants for some reason. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 04/24/22 5:23:03 AM #130:	So from what I understand, Bredehoft didn't actually mention Milani by name and that the makeup kit she showed could have just been an example of what she could have been using at the time. She says "this is what she was carrying in her purse with the entire relationship with Johnny Depp." Which means she could very specifically mean that particular brand and everything, but it could also be that the brand she was using previously either no longer exists or she doesn't have any of it left over, or it's just a visual of what type of makeup Amber would keep in her purse. I think the larger point the lawyer was getting at is that she was using makeup in general for covering up bruises, and if that particular brand didn't exist in 2012-2016, it doesn't really matter because obviously some version of a correcting kit would exist. Not to mention, Glamour was already reviewing the product in 2016 along with it's available price, meaning Milani is being dishonest about when this product hit shelves. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:964527271] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>So from what I understand, Bredehoft didn't actually mention Milani by name and that the makeup kit she showed could have just been an example of what she could have been using at the time. She says "this is what she was carrying in her purse with the entire relationship with Johnny Depp." Which means she could very specifically mean that particular brand and everything, but it could also be that the brand she was using previously either no longer exists or she doesn't have any of it left over, or it's just a visual of what type of makeup Amber would keep in her purse. I think the larger point the lawyer was getting at is that she was using makeup in general for covering up bruises, and if that particular brand didn't exist in 2012-2016, it doesn't really matter because obviously some version of a correcting kit would exist. Not to mention, Glamour was already reviewing the product in 2016 along with it's available price, meaning Milani is being dishonest about when this product hit shelves. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 04/24/22 11:19:51 AM #131:	What a great example of how the dumbest possible shit blows up in these celebrity trials --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:964531356] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>What a great example of how the dumbest possible shit blows up in these celebrity trials </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 04/24/22 11:20:58 AM #132:	The coverage of this trial from the fans of both people involved is so fucking weird lmao. Turning domestic abuse into a team sport, so wild --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:964531373] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>The coverage of this trial from the fans of both people involved is so fucking weird lmao. Turning domestic abuse into a team sport, so wild </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 04/24/22 12:01:36 PM #133:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... The coverage of this trial from the fans of both people involved is so fucking weird lmao. Turning domestic abuse into a team sport, so wild I hope you continue to be fortunate enough that domestic abuse won't be a big deal to you, Tony. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:964532055] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>The coverage of this trial from the fans of both people involved is so fucking weird lmao. Turning domestic abuse into a team sport, so wild</quote>I hope you continue to be fortunate enough that domestic abuse won't be a big deal to you, Tony. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 04/24/22 12:16:03 PM #134:	No, Tony's got a point. There's being an advocate for the issue of domestic abuse and then there's whatever the fuck Stan Twitter is doing, going out of there way to dogpile anyone even slightly skeptical of Depp or credulous towards Heard. I mean we've still got like another month of this trial to go or something? Calm down. Maybe I'm just becoming a cynical old man but when you get to the point where fashion brands and influencers snipping trial clips on TikTok you've moved pretty cleanly from advocating against abuse to shamelessly profiting and self-promoting from it. Deranged behaviour. --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:964532328] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>No, Tony's got a point. There's being an advocate for the issue of domestic abuse and then there's whatever the fuck Stan Twitter is doing, going out of there way to dogpile anyone even slightly skeptical of Depp or credulous towards Heard. I mean we've still got like another month of this trial to go or something? Calm down. Maybe I'm just becoming a cynical old man but when you get to the point where fashion brands and influencers snipping trial clips on TikTok you've moved pretty cleanly from advocating against abuse to shamelessly profiting and self-promoting from it. Deranged behaviour. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomTheGyarados 04/24/22 12:17:29 PM #135:	They did it with LGBTQ rights now they do it with domestic violence. Not surprising or, to me, even worth batting an eye. Maybe I am just used to this fresh take on hell already tbh --- Sir Chris <cite>DoomTheGyarados posted [p:964532347] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>They did it with LGBTQ rights now they do it with domestic violence. Not surprising or, to me, even worth batting an eye. Maybe I am just used to this fresh take on hell already tbh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 04/24/22 12:31:09 PM #136:	HeroDelTiempo17 posted... No, Tony's got a point. There's being an advocate for the issue of domestic abuse and then there's whatever the fuck Stan Twitter is doing, going out of there way to dogpile anyone even slightly skeptical of Depp or credulous towards Heard. I mean we've still got like another month of this trial to go or something? Calm down. Maybe I'm just becoming a cynical old man but when you get to the point where fashion brands and influencers snipping trial clips on TikTok you've moved pretty cleanly from advocating against abuse to shamelessly profiting and self-promoting from it. Deranged behaviour. You're literally just describing stan TikTok about any issue ever. They're gross mutants about everything and nothing can help that. TikTok users are just using the current big thing to try to get more engagement. Who actually cares about them ever. But if you've ever seen domestic abuse play out and explode like this on a far smaller scale with friends and family, you would know it has "teams" involved too. And if you've been through domestic abuse and emotional manipulation from a significant other, or you have someone dear to you who has been through it, or you or someone close has been falsely accused of it, this is significant to them too. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:964532636] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>HeroDelTiempo17 posted... </cite> <quote>No, Tony's got a point. There's being an advocate for the issue of domestic abuse and then there's whatever the fuck Stan Twitter is doing, going out of there way to dogpile anyone even slightly skeptical of Depp or credulous towards Heard. I mean we've still got like another month of this trial to go or something? Calm down. Maybe I'm just becoming a cynical old man but when you get to the point where fashion brands and influencers snipping trial clips on TikTok you've moved pretty cleanly from advocating against abuse to shamelessly profiting and self-promoting from it. Deranged behaviour.</quote>You're literally just describing stan TikTok about any issue ever. They're gross mutants about everything and nothing can help that. TikTok users are just using the current big thing to try to get more engagement. Who actually cares about them ever. But if you've ever seen domestic abuse play out and explode like this on a far smaller scale with friends and family, you would know it has "teams" involved too. And if you've been through domestic abuse and emotional manipulation from a significant other, or you have someone dear to you who has been through it, or you or someone close has been falsely accused of it, this is significant to them too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 04/24/22 1:07:16 PM #137:	Ok, then it sounds like we are all in agreement about how the online trends and discourses are extreme extensions of the standard toxic and exploitative media environments around celebrity cases as well as the factionalized shit slinging. --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:964533333] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>Ok, then it sounds like we are all in agreement about how the online trends and discourses are extreme extensions of the standard toxic and exploitative media environments around celebrity cases as well as the factionalized shit slinging. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wedge Antilles 04/24/22 1:13:52 PM #138:	"Stop hitting me Johnny! Stop hitting me!" That line there seems odd to me. What, are there two people hitting you and you need to specify which one you want to stop hitting you? Seems like a painfully obvious attempt to fake a recording of you getting hit to use against someone later. --- I used the knife. I saved a child. I won a war. God forgive me. <cite>Wedge Antilles posted [p:964533461] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>"Stop hitting me Johnny! Stop hitting me!" That line there seems odd to me. What, are there two people hitting you and you need to specify which one you want to stop hitting you? Seems like a painfully obvious attempt to fake a recording of you getting hit to use against someone later. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 04/24/22 1:23:28 PM #139:	Wedge Antilles posted... "Stop hitting me Johnny! Stop hitting me!" That line there seems odd to me. What, are there two people hitting you and you need to specify which one you want to stop hitting you? Seems like a painfully obvious attempt to fake a recording of you getting hit to use against someone later. Yes, Johnny described it somewhere that he felt it was an ambush, since he hadn't done anything and Amber's one friend Rocky stormed in out of nowhere telling him to stop when he was 20 feet away. It's very, very curious that both Rocky and the girl on the phone were both not called as witnesses from Amber's team despite supposedly heard and witnessing Johnny beating up on Amber that night. Especially since they would be able to testify about so many other things in their relationship to help Amber's case if anything she said was true. Also, I have one more day of recaps to catch up on, and I hoped to do it before the next day of trial tomorrow, but I'll be at Six Flags all day, so it's unlikely I'll get to it! Admittedly, it should be a lot shorter since it's mostly just repetitive nonsense from Heard's team with nothing really significant. And it bounces all over the place, so there's absolutely no cohesive story to it at all. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:964533650] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>Wedge Antilles posted... </cite> <quote>"Stop hitting me Johnny! Stop hitting me!" That line there seems odd to me. What, are there two people hitting you and you need to specify which one you want to stop hitting you? Seems like a painfully obvious attempt to fake a recording of you getting hit to use against someone later.</quote>Yes, Johnny described it somewhere that he felt it was an ambush, since he hadn't done anything and Amber's one friend Rocky stormed in out of nowhere telling him to stop when he was 20 feet away. It's very, very curious that both Rocky and the girl on the phone were both not called as witnesses from Amber's team despite supposedly heard and witnessing Johnny beating up on Amber that night. Especially since they would be able to testify about so many other things in their relationship to help Amber's case if anything she said was true. Also, I have one more day of recaps to catch up on, and I hoped to do it before the next day of trial tomorrow, but I'll be at Six Flags all day, so it's unlikely I'll get to it! Admittedly, it should be a lot shorter since it's mostly just repetitive nonsense from Heard's team with nothing really significant. And it bounces all over the place, so there's absolutely no cohesive story to it at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 04/24/22 2:31:13 PM #140:	PrivateBiscuit1 posted... I hope you continue to be fortunate enough that domestic abuse won't be a big deal to you, Tony. This is an insane response to what I said. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:964535136] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>PrivateBiscuit1 posted... </cite> <quote>I hope you continue to be fortunate enough that domestic abuse won't be a big deal to you, Tony.</quote> This is an insane response to what I said. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
neonreaper 04/24/22 3:31:52 PM #141:	PrivateBiscuit1 posted... DAY 6: Part 2 he tossed the phone aside onto the couch harmlessly. i Havent read much of this topic but I see the word harmlessly and curious was it from the trial? --- Donny: Are they gonna hurt us, Walter? Walter: No, Donny. These men are cowards. <cite>neonreaper posted [p:964536530] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>PrivateBiscuit1 posted... </cite> <quote>DAY 6: Part 2 he tossed the phone aside onto the couch harmlessly.</quote> i Havent read much of this topic but I see the word harmlessly and curious was it from the trial? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 04/24/22 3:53:42 PM #142:	neonreaper posted... i Havent read much of this topic but I see the word harmlessly and curious was it from the trial? I don't remember if that was the exact wording he used, but he did the motion of gentle underhand tossing as an example on court as he demonstrated specifically what he did with it. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:964537023] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>neonreaper posted... </cite> <quote>i Havent read much of this topic but I see the word harmlessly and curious was it from the trial?</quote>I don't remember if that was the exact wording he used, but he did the motion of gentle underhand tossing as an example on court as he demonstrated specifically what he did with it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 04/24/22 4:43:31 PM #143:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/2/3/AAMkRCAADKsP.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/2/4/AAMkRCAADKsQ.jpg lmao --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:964538080] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/2/3/AAMkRCAADKsP.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/2/4/AAMkRCAADKsQ.jpg lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 04/24/22 5:03:19 PM #144:	HeroDelTiempo17 posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/2/3/AAMkRCAADKsP.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/2/4/AAMkRCAADKsQ.jpg lmao Yeah, that was a weird moment. Mostly because it was really the only thing that the attorney really "caught" him on. I'm willing to see how they deal with that on re-cross, if they bother, because the image in question is likely set up. You may have seen it floating around. Ultimately it's not a huge hit to credibility at all considering how many other times this guy failed to impeach him in an entire day. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:964538544] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>HeroDelTiempo17 posted... </cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/2/3/AAMkRCAADKsP.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/2/4/AAMkRCAADKsQ.jpg lmao</quote>Yeah, that was a weird moment. Mostly because it was really the only thing that the attorney really "caught" him on. I'm willing to see how they deal with that on re-cross, if they bother, because the image in question is likely set up. You may have seen it floating around. Ultimately it's not a huge hit to credibility at all considering how many other times this guy failed to impeach him in an entire day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
banananor 04/24/22 5:09:11 PM #145:	I'm surprised, I thought you normally weren't allowed to bring in statements from other trials But I guess the lawyers agreed that the 2019 whatever was relevant --- You did indeed stab me in the back. However, you are only level one, whilst I am level 50. That means I should remain uninjured. <cite>banananor posted [p:964538669] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>I'm surprised, I thought you normally weren't allowed to bring in statements from other trials But I guess the lawyers agreed that the 2019 whatever was relevant </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 04/24/22 5:37:40 PM #146:	banananor posted... I'm surprised, I thought you normally weren't allowed to bring in statements from other trials But I guess the lawyers agreed that the 2019 whatever was relevant They agreed that the decision of that case cannot be used to present proof of guilt or innocence. It benefits Depp's team to have Amber Heard's deposition from that trial included because, frankly, she contradicted many stories in it and was pretty manic during them. It only helps their case. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:964539263] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>banananor posted... </cite> <quote>I'm surprised, I thought you normally weren't allowed to bring in statements from other trials But I guess the lawyers agreed that the 2019 whatever was relevant</quote>They agreed that the decision of that case cannot be used to present proof of guilt or innocence. It benefits Depp's team to have Amber Heard's deposition from that trial included because, frankly, she contradicted many stories in it and was pretty manic during them. It only helps their case. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CoolCly 04/25/22 3:43:46 AM #147:	Is that lawyer's name really Rottenborn? Sounds like a character from a Tim Burton movie. Starring Johnny Depp. --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG <cite>CoolCly posted [p:964549559] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>Is that lawyer's name really Rottenborn? Sounds like a character from a Tim Burton movie. Starring Johnny Depp. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Strikes 04/25/22 6:39:21 AM #148:	TheRock1525 posted... Not to mention, Glamour was already reviewing the product in 2016 along with it's available price, meaning Milani is being dishonest about when this product hit shelves. Just so you know, this is incorrect. The 2016 article is a live article with products released afterwards added to it in updates. The Milani concealer was added in 2020. The 2017 release date is accurate. It doesnt mean much overall of course, but it does mean that it wasnt that brand in this instance. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:964550827] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>TheRock1525 posted... </cite> <quote>Not to mention, Glamour was already reviewing the product in 2016 along with it's available price, meaning Milani is being dishonest about when this product hit shelves.</quote> Just so you know, this is incorrect. The 2016 article is a live article with products released afterwards added to it in updates. The Milani concealer was added in 2020. The 2017 release date is accurate. It doesnt mean much overall of course, but it does mean that it wasnt that brand in this instance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 04/25/22 12:27:03 PM #149:	CoolCly posted... Is that lawyer's name really Rottenborn? Sounds like a character from a Tim Burton movie. Starring Johnny Depp. Yes, it is deeply tragic and I don't know how you don't change your name from that it you become an attorney. Also cross is finally done and today and was a complete disaster, barely strung together at the end with a so-so close that I feel really missed the mark. Depp's lawyers immediately dismantled their claims that Johnny had no right to sue Amber of the article on re-direct. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:964556170] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>CoolCly posted... </cite> <quote>Is that lawyer's name really Rottenborn? Sounds like a character from a Tim Burton movie. Starring Johnny Depp.</quote>Yes, it is deeply tragic and I don't know how you don't change your name from that it you become an attorney. Also cross is finally done and today and was a complete disaster, barely strung together at the end with a so-so close that I feel really missed the mark. Depp's lawyers immediately dismantled their claims that Johnny had no right to sue Amber of the article on re-direct. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aecioo 04/25/22 12:27:44 PM #150:	just turned it on amber heard hair update - it's not covering the side of her face today --- http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcb35gGx0t1qailr4o1_500.gif http://www.megavideo.com/?v=57N0YAEJ <cite>Aecioo posted [p:964556185] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>just turned it on amber heard hair update - it's not covering the side of her face today </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 04/25/22 12:40:34 PM #151:	Her hair does look like it costs more than my rent though. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:964556525] in Johnny Dep... [t:79993106]...</cite> <quote>Her hair does look like it costs more than my rent though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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