Board 8 > The Russia Ukraine War appears to have begun

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Hard to tell what is propaganda for both sides now. A ton of pro ukraine news was just said. Aircraft repelling invaders, they repelled airport attacks, Odessa assaults are fake. Etc etc

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1496722024709988354?s=20&t=-A0SHPIDFWZ7UR_g6qxLCg

https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1496723380258623491?s=20&t=WIi-GqV6E1ZvxCr2PAEjAA

https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1496724987742461954?s=20&t=nJqNi4P_L6UwMt-XbpUdNQ

Tons of pro ukraine news dumping. Possibly untrue.

https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1496725187219312642?s=20&t=u5c0a26blNRcNp8Vfs2xwA

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1496728008979275777?s=20&t=EgnxiIeSZ_2sMQkvfFg6_Q

https://twitter.com/PaulSonne/status/1496725948229693440?s=20&t=BA5Egv8KAoK8mQ0LpRnN8w

LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/natashabertrand/status/1496717859107618820?s=21

I guess Belarus is just a Russian puppet state at this point?

Where have you been since the fall of the Soviet Union?

I think the worst part about all of this is the Reddit tankie brigade absolutely eating up the Putin "Nazification of Ukraine" stupidity

https://twitter.com/PoisedTactical/status/1496732971268722695?s=20&t=Q5AusyUfLKKusgs5K1zgMg

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I think the worst part about all of this is the Reddit tankie brigade absolutely eating up the Putin "Nazification of Ukraine" stupidity

Well there is neo nazis there. The Azov Battalion for example. But yeah it's a poor excuse.

Corrik7 posted...

https://twitter.com/PoisedTactical/status/1496732971268722695?s=20&t=Q5AusyUfLKKusgs5K1zgMg

Top reply for this is proof this video was from Benghazi.

MrSmartGuy posted...

Top reply for this is proof this video was from Benghazi.

Yeah I just saw it was fake

Zenithian Legend posted...

They're planning to reacquire all the former Soviet countries. Ukraine being the largest, is obviously first.

Its not really that exactly, in his speech a few days ago Putin criticised Lenin for allowing Ukraine to form as a Soviet Republic at all, and he stated that he views the destruction of Ukraine as the only way to complete decommunisation. He doesnt want to go back to the Soviet days, he wants to go back to the Russian Empire.

This is the thing though, the people saying that it was a fake revolution or acting like Russias still communist are wrong. It is a very different Russia. Just not, as it happens, a better Russia. The tankies stanning for Putin are absolutely ludicrous, its a hard right very anti-communist dictatorship that is an ultra-capitalist corporate dystopia invading a democracy. If you want to talk about fascists, look no further than elements of the Russian government. No self-respecting left-winger or communist should be siding with a state like that. It is, fortunately, a small minority.

So yeah this is awful, everybody supporting it is awful, and hopefully all nations western or otherwise will join in a strong response.

Im assuming China isnt actually on Russias side regarding Ukraine?

It is not.

Everybody who is not a Russian puppet state or held up by Russia is opposed to what they are doing.

https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1496781272563486721?cxt=HHwWgsDUmeOo0cUpAAAA

MarkS222222222222222 posted...

https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1496781272563486721?cxt=HHwWgsDUmeOo0cUpAAAA

K this one got a laugh out of me.

https://twitter.com/biannagolodryga/status/1496804223475986433?s=21

https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/1496794231763255297

https://twitter.com/Caucasuswar/status/1496812894889066499

Lightning Strikes posted...

It is not.

Everybody who is not a Russian puppet state or held up by Russia is opposed to what they are doing.

Actually China hasn't really come down against Russia. Unless something changed in the last 5 hours.

India, Pakistan, and China have been more anti-Nato and understanding of Russia than anything. Unless something changed.

Lightning Strikes posted...

It is not.

Everybody who is not a Russian puppet state or held up by Russia is opposed to what they are doing.

Apparently Nicaragua supports Russia and I don't believe they are held up by Russia.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/nicaraguas-ortega-defends-russias-stance-over-ukraine-2022-02-22/

Granted, Nicaragua's government is basically a thinly veiled dictatorship pretending to be a democracy, so there's that.

https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1496820207721066500?s=20&t=6MTDgkgDU9XJqZmUbV8ToA

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/0/1/AAeSC1AAC9rF.jpg

https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/1496803459949072387

Lightning Strikes posted...

Its not really that exactly, in his speech a few days ago Putin criticised Lenin for allowing Ukraine to form as a Soviet Republic at all, and he stated that he views the destruction of Ukraine as the only way to complete decommunisation. He doesnt want to go back to the Soviet days, he wants to go back to the Russian Empire.

This is the thing though, the people saying that it was a fake revolution or acting like Russias still communist are wrong. It is a very different Russia. Just not, as it happens, a better Russia. The tankies stanning for Putin are absolutely ludicrous, its a hard right very anti-communist dictatorship that is an ultra-capitalist corporate dystopia invading a democracy. If you want to talk about fascists, look no further than elements of the Russian government. No self-respecting left-winger or communist should be siding with a state like that. It is, fortunately, a small minority.

So yeah this is awful, everybody supporting it is awful, and hopefully all nations western or otherwise will join in a strong response.

The reality is that no other countries will do anything, just like they didn't do anything when Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and took Crimea. That was basically a practice run for this full scale invasion. The other world leaders will issue strongly worded statements, shake their fists, and impose economic sanctions, but Russia controls so much of the energy supply to the rest of Europe that the sanctions will backfire. They are going to end up pushing inflation and energy costs even higher in the west.

So, why is Putin invading Ukraine? Basically, it's because noone is going to stop him and he is simply proving that he can.

https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/1496803995310034945

cyko posted...

The reality is that no other countries will do anything, just like they didn't do anything when Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and took Crimea. That was basically a practice run for this full scale invasion. The other world leaders will issue strongly worded statements, shake their fists, and impose economic sanctions, but Russia controls so much of the energy supply to the rest of Europe that the sanctions will backfire. They are going to end up pushing inflation and energy costs even higher in the west.

So, why is Putin invading Ukraine? Basically, it's because noone is going to stop him and he is simply proving that he can.

The sanctions so far are poised to cripple the Russian economy.

https://twitter.com/ShubhashisChak4/status/1496828882254974979

DoomTheGyarados posted...

The sanctions so far are poised to cripple the Russian economy.

Idk. If India and China and Pakistan are all willing to circumnavigate, I am not sure how much bite they will have. Initially it will look so.

https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1496828508521353216

cyko posted...

The reality is that no other countries will do anything, just like they didn't do anything when Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and took Crimea. That was basically a practice run for this full scale invasion. The other world leaders will issue strongly worded statements, shake their fists, and impose economic sanctions, but Russia controls so much of the energy supply to the rest of Europe that the sanctions will backfire. They are going to end up pushing inflation and energy costs even higher in the west.

So, why is Putin invading Ukraine? Basically, it's because noone is going to stop him and he is simply proving that he can.

I (mostly) agree, but Putin is not a perfect, terrifying warlord who can do no wrong. While I think there's a good chance there's a lot of handwringing and little actually gets done, there's also a high chance this blows up in Putin's face, Russia's economy tanks and the oligarchs finally get tired and shake things up. One of the many reasons for the invasion in the first place is Russia's stagnant economy has meant Putin needs to resort to ultranationalist rhetoric and action to maintain his grip on power.

All of this is absolutely going to hit the rest of the world. In case invading one of the biggest European countries wasn't going to already. The West needs to wean itself off of Russia's natural gas as it is, and war in Europe is going to tank the economy something terrible, sanctions or no. I don't trust any world governments to keep tightening sanctions until Putin is out, but the consequences of doing so would be far worse for Russia. While it's almost definitely not going to make Putin withdraw Russian forces, it might force internal change given time. Saying this as someone living in Europe, the rest of the continent is just gonna have to suck it up and deal with the consequences.

https://twitter.com/pmesii_insider/status/1496828440393433091?s=20&t=S6Ig_RRDnwBDLsEIUXwfQQ

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1496831734519844865?s=20&t=4hbuuaG7vBajJvklmrXdCw

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1496830220543967238?s=20&t=167c_4r40qnkl4-Etz53JQ

https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1496832644990050307?s=20&t=dC8aNsmwsx7u90GDnnqkDA

^ Ukranian

Sheep007 posted...

In case invading one of the biggest European countries

The biggest country that's fully in Europe, even!

https://twitter.com/no_itsmyturn/status/1496836606103375882?s=20&t=8ffziAWE5J3kOn0KLo5HXQ

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1496837040242978816

https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1496841000131645444

https://twitter.com/MehClement/status/1496848755907305477?s=20&t=uwOG6vRhusi8IybdyvWt4g

Thank you for documenting this, Corrik

+1, I appreciate the links.

https://twitter.com/MarQs__/status/1496851744227303425?s=20&t=kYFyPjwpYnbcEFipfNgU8A

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1496849223966511105?s=20&t=ho_JN7K_H1LpltCpBUNOiw

Lightning Strikes posted...

It is not.

Everybody who is not a Russian puppet state or held up by Russia is opposed to what they are doing.

Yeah I looked up YT comments...big mistake. Also saw someone claiming Russia is just moving troops in to peacefully bolster allied sovereign republics, talk about buying into propaganda.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1496854488933715972