Board 8 > Final Fantasy 14 Mafia - Day 2: Thrill of the Hunt

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ScareChan posted...

Mike - say we did lynch Ulti today and he is WoL. Are you able to use your gladiator ability again tomorrow?

No, once I've successfully merged with the WoL, I lose the ability. I actually sent a PM about this specifically because I wasn't sure either and my role PM wasn't clear.

Isquen completely ignored the actual reason why I voted him and replaced it with nonsense. I don't know the flavor. I never once called him Uriwhatever.

I voted him for intentionally skirting around the top two lynches without providing anything towards either of them. I only unvoted when he gave something actually tangible.

Also what's going on now seems super duper dumb and makes me glad I haven't tried much yet.

Oh and we are under no circumstances lynching Ulti today when the other person is a claimed indy that says they specifically were aiming for Ulti.

Do have one question for Ulti though:

You say to give me more time when I'm asleep.

By the time I wake up you're already saying I'm scum.

"Meow?"

Also reading the last page again Chris strikes me as curious and I want clarification of his thoughts.

You acknowledged Mike's claim as "staggeringly anti-town" but also seem to just accept it and say.. We could lynch Ulti just to be "safe"

In what world is following a claimed Indy a "safe" play?

Crescent-Moon posted...

In what world is following a claimed Indy a "safe" play?

A hypothetical world where you don't disbelieve him and don't believe in a pure anti-town third party.

"Pure anti-town third party"?

Third parties aren't town. Do we have to go back to mafia 101 here?

Thats great. What do you think his game is then?

Not even going to try to guess!

But also not interested in giving him what he wants.

Also Ulti did in fact claim via video in the first topic.

Can we reinstate the rule where people arent allowed to post videos as gameplay(Or at all preferably)? I much prefer a world where I don't have to click on sounds/video that people think arent annoying but are actually annoying.

I say this because I most certainly ignored its existence and then clicked on it reading back and it was as annoying as most videos are.

I never pretended anything was going to happen today other than me being lynched. The fact any debate over this is happening at all is utterly shocking to me. I'm fully resigned to the fact that I'm dead today.

That's to Crescent, obviously, who seems to be under the impression that I'm trying to convince people not to kill me.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Not even going to try to guess!

But also not interested in giving him what he wants.

He was spouting out about Ulti being confirmed town all day.

MikeTavish posted...

That's to Crescent, obviously, who seems to be under the impression that I'm trying to convince people not to kill me.

I have absolutely no idea what you're doing and I'm not even going to bother trying to figure it out.

You're

A. Claiming indy
B. Claiming a role that shouldn't exist
C. Saying it's ok to kill you

Like... What the hell am I even supposed to try to make of that? This looks like some insane Corrik fakeclaim that's suddenly going to turn around and go really hard on Ulti near the end of the day.

MikeTavish posted... That's to Crescent, obviously, who seems to be under the impression that I'm trying to convince people not to kill me.

I have absolutely no idea what you're doing and I'm not even going to bother trying to figure it out.

You're

A. Claiming indy
B. Claiming a role that shouldn't exist
C. Saying it's ok to kill you

Like... What the hell am I even supposed to try to make of that? This looks like some insane Corrik fakeclaim that's suddenly going to turn around and go really hard on Ulti near the end of the day.

Annnnnd the page lagged so I thought the first one didn't post. Whoops~

red13n posted...

He was spouting out about Ulti being confirmed town all day.

I may have overlooked that part.

Thanks for confusing me even more, it's appreciated.

I don't know what to tell you. In the end it doesn't really matter because I'll die and flip and continue talking through Ulti sooooo whatever I guess? I know this all looks ridiculous, that's only because it is.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Im not being snarky here - you wont be inactive and bitter about being dead after being handed a really dumb role?

The way I'm reading it, if you are indeed WoL, you have nothing to lose even if you die. Same for Mike. Unless you believe town has no chance whatsoever. It comes down to whether we want Ulti Classic or Diet Ulti.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Isquen completely ignored the actual reason why I voted him and replaced it with nonsense. I don't know the flavor. I never once called him Uriwhatever.

I'd still like to hear your reason, since I thought I made mine clear: I was voting for people on the lynch train. You're now giving me more "third party with their own win condition to off someone obliquely instead of directly" vibes than either scum OR town. But now isn't the time for that, yet I'm pretty sure if either of us die during the night as a result, the other one is close behind (as a scapegoat or a cover story.)

I actually am leaning scum on Ulti which is making my mantra of never trust a third party a little wishy washy

Um

Your post was "##Mike" out of nowhere. No reason. No context.

Only when pressured why did you actually give a reason. You're retroactively trying to claim you justified the vote before you made it, instead of after, and are ignoring that lack of justification is why I voted you in the first place.

And to further that point, the reason you claim I voted you is patently false and claims I've said things I've never at any point in the game said since I don't know the flavor and wouldn't have any idea if you were metaing a character or not in the first place.

I actually wonder if you're reading the game, or if you're just talking at people.

Third point: I glossed over this the first time I read that post.

Calling someone a third party for putting you under very mild scrutiny is pretty bad.

masterplum posted...

I actually am leaning scum on Ulti which is making my mantra of never trust a third party a little wishy washy

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Has everyone gone mad today?

My concern is a third party that tries to kill town is wildly unbalanced. Like chris says the third party basically forces a mislynch if it is aiming for town.

So what if the warrior of light is a scum role? That makes the role much more interesting. The gladiator aspect makes more sense.

Just thinking out loud. Maybe it is just a really dumb role

Ok, admittedly that does make some sense.

This seriously isn't what I wanted to wake up to at like 3am on my off day.

Though I have to ask Mike something I should've already asked and I don't remember if anyone else asked him... Why do this so early in the day?

I wake up and SOOO much has happened. This is not what I imagined he game to be like. Also, that role seems awesome mike, but you are no longer a town to me. My vote is currently on ulti. Either way, we pretty much have the same role but with a different player, but keep in mind ulti could be lying as scum.

I was leaning on plum or scare as my vote until the warrior of darkness claim

UltimaterializerX posted...

Killing town BP that gets a potential upgrade over a claimed third party is objectively terrible mafia play.

Good thing I am pondering that you maybe aren't town!

I had a meta thought of ShB spoilers.

If everything is on the table as it appears, we have a town and a town sympathist about to die, which leaves town yet another person down, then whatever. I don't think there's any way I personally am winning here, and I'm about ready to throw my hands up cuz I don't know what the hell's going on and probably getting mocked behind the scenes.

Current leanings are Scare, Plum, Chris. I don't think Crescent is evil, just antagonizing me for being dumb. Just my views for later.

Also, hey, if it's always part of the game, then fine, let me know in the postgame, but could we stop going "this is mafia you should know this already" as an argument or claim? It's irritating and is a "non-thought."

Well, I did say that ulti could be lying, so that is why I said my vote is currently on ulti

But I could always change my mind

UltimaterializerX posted...

@red13n

What happens in the actual game with my character?

the player is the warrior of light

No idea, I haven't even started heavensward(currently leveling classes before starting the HW story)

ulti, can you be upgraded more than once? you said your role didn't mention azem. did your role mention ardbert? or any other characters?

The one time I tried to use host meta I got town power lynched with it day 1 and made the host quit his own game on day 3.

Isquen posted...

just antagonizing me for being dumb.

And this would be correct, yes.

I've come to see you as someone that requires needling to get talking.

And I'd say it's been effective~

UltimaterializerX posted...

Hey Plum, why do you think the host safe listed a main character and why not ask any questions about this at all?

Because I have literally done this before as host to prevent meta?

Or the main character could simply be on the scum team. I have also done that.

I also know nothing about flavor, so this is just speculation by inference

But a game where there is a warrior of dark on the scum team with warrior of light on the safe list and a third party looking for the warrior of light sounds 100% like something I would do. That sounds hilarious