Poll of the Day > I could never understand weak cards in YuGiOh.

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hypnox 01/14/22 9:31:01 PM #1:	Other games I could sorta see it in some cases. Pokemon it made since as there were Pokemon that was stronger than others. MTG it made booster drafts more interesting. But YuGiOh, the bad cards are just BS filler it seemed. --- http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0ajm6lGqf1qekkfi.gif <cite>hypnox posted [p:961754786] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>Other games I could sorta see it in some cases. Pokemon it made since as there were Pokemon that was stronger than others. MTG it made booster drafts more interesting. But YuGiOh, the bad cards are just BS filler it seemed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JoeDangIt 01/14/22 10:02:35 PM #2:	There are some cards that either make weak monsters more powerful or that punish your opponent for using strong monsters. <cite>JoeDangIt posted [p:961755464] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>There are some cards that either make weak monsters more powerful or that punish your opponent for using strong monsters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 01/14/22 10:03:30 PM #3:	JoeDangIt posted... There are some cards that either make weak monsters more powerful or that punish your opponent for using strong monsters. This is what I figured. I never played, but saw others playing. I figured they would have some use... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:961755487] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>JoeDangIt posted...</cite> <quote>There are some cards that either make weak monsters more powerful or that punish your opponent for using strong monsters.</quote> This is what I figured. I never played, but saw others playing. I figured they would have some use...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kimbos_Egg 01/14/22 10:10:09 PM #4:	effects are king. --- You think you've Got problems? https://i.imgur.com/Khu5iBF.jpg <cite>Kimbos_Egg posted [p:961755655] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>effects are king. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JOExHIGASHI 01/14/22 10:18:06 PM #5:	They are for fun decks. Not everything has to be about being the best. Sometimes it's just fun. --- Next Xbox will be named Xbox1 2 <cite>JOExHIGASHI posted [p:961755822] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>They are for fun decks. Not everything has to be about being the best. Sometimes it's just fun. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CinderLock 01/14/22 10:53:08 PM #6:	JOExHIGASHI posted... They are for fun decks. Not everything has to be about being the best. Sometimes it's just fun. Exactly loads of archetypes to make different decks. I used to use mistwalkers when they first came out and morphtronics --- Kathy Bates inspires fear in the soul, hence the validity of humanity. - Wolfy42 <cite>CinderLock posted [p:961756578] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>JOExHIGASHI posted... </cite> <quote>They are for fun decks. Not everything has to be about being the best. Sometimes it's just fun.</quote>Exactly loads of archetypes to make different decks. I used to use mistwalkers when they first came out and morphtronics </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FatalAccident 01/14/22 11:14:20 PM #7:	Kimbos_Egg posted... effects are king. --- walks away <cite>FatalAccident posted [p:961757006] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>Kimbos_Egg posted... </cite> <quote>effects are king.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 01/14/22 11:58:32 PM #8:	hypnox posted... But YuGiOh, the bad cards are just BS filler it seemed. It's rarity based balance, ruined by people who actually buy singles --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:961757705] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>hypnox posted... </cite> <quote>But YuGiOh, the bad cards are just BS filler it seemed.</quote> It's rarity based balance, ruined by people who actually buy singles </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CinderLock 01/14/22 11:59:48 PM #9:	I like how most of TCs topics are "I don't understand thing I don't know about and won't learn" --- Kathy Bates inspires fear in the soul, hence the validity of humanity. - Wolfy42 <cite>CinderLock posted [p:961757727] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>I like how most of TCs topics are "I don't understand thing I don't know about and won't learn" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 01/15/22 12:04:44 AM #10:	A lot of those weak cards made sense when the uber powerful cards were less common --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:961757800] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>A lot of those weak cards made sense when the uber powerful cards were less common </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonClaw01 01/15/22 12:29:34 AM #11:	It's just a poorly designed game. Always has been. The lack of mana & the all or nothing combat system makes it really hard to balance over powered cards. The classic example of Yu Gi Oh imbalance used to be black hole vs. raigeki, since raigeki does the same exact thing as black hole, but doesn't affect your monsters making it straight up better. Of course, the game is so broken now a days that even raigeki isn't played. --- <('.'<) <(^.^)> (>'.')> Splendiferous <cite>DragonClaw01 posted [p:961758252] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>It's just a poorly designed game. Always has been. The lack of mana & the all or nothing combat system makes it really hard to balance over powered cards. The classic example of Yu Gi Oh imbalance used to be black hole vs. raigeki, since raigeki does the same exact thing as black hole, but doesn't affect your monsters making it straight up better. Of course, the game is so broken now a days that even raigeki isn't played. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sarcasthma 01/15/22 12:30:26 AM #12:	CinderLock posted... I like how most of TCs topics are "I don't understand thing I don't know about and won't learn" I actually don't like it, to be honest. --- What's the difference between a pickpocket and a peeping tom? A pickpocket snatches your watch. <cite>Sarcasthma posted [p:961758269] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>CinderLock posted... </cite> <quote>I like how most of TCs topics are "I don't understand thing I don't know about and won't learn"</quote>I actually don't like it, to be honest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CinderLock 01/15/22 1:06:03 AM #13:	Sarcasthma posted... I actually don't like it, to be honest. Lol --- Kathy Bates inspires fear in the soul, hence the validity of humanity. - Wolfy42 <cite>CinderLock posted [p:961758813] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>Sarcasthma posted... </cite> <quote>I actually don't like it, to be honest. </quote>Lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unbridled9 01/15/22 2:45:31 AM #14:	hypnox posted... Other games I could sorta see it in some cases. Pokemon it made since as there were Pokemon that was stronger than others. MTG it made booster drafts more interesting. But YuGiOh, the bad cards are just BS filler it seemed. What you need to remember is that Yu Gi Oh wasn't always the way it was even when the anime got released. IIRC, in the 'original' game the Hitasume Giant was, actually, one of the most powerful monsters around. Plus waaaaay back in the original the game developers didn't really have a clear idea of how the game would be unfolding/played/etc. So a lot of cards were made that likely SEEMED balanced at the time but, in actuality, were flat-out terrible. I'm pretty sure a lot of the old school polymerization cards and what-not seemed like they'd be powerful at the time but now... As for later on cards. Sometimes an archtype doesn't work out, some had lore behind them, and some exist just for fun. MTG's also gone on record as saying that they intentionally release 'bad' rares and the like just to both mess with the assumption that rare=good and because they want to see if someone finds a way to viably use the card. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. - Venat <cite>Unbridled9 posted [p:961760019] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>hypnox posted... </cite> <quote>Other games I could sorta see it in some cases. Pokemon it made since as there were Pokemon that was stronger than others. MTG it made booster drafts more interesting. But YuGiOh, the bad cards are just BS filler it seemed.</quote> What you need to remember is that Yu Gi Oh wasn't always the way it was even when the anime got released. IIRC, in the 'original' game the Hitasume Giant was, actually, one of the most powerful monsters around. Plus waaaaay back in the original the game developers didn't really have a clear idea of how the game would be unfolding/played/etc. So a lot of cards were made that likely SEEMED balanced at the time but, in actuality, were flat-out terrible. I'm pretty sure a lot of the old school polymerization cards and what-not seemed like they'd be powerful at the time but now... As for later on cards. Sometimes an archtype doesn't work out, some had lore behind them, and some exist just for fun. MTG's also gone on record as saying that they intentionally release 'bad' rares and the like just to both mess with the assumption that rare=good and because they want to see if someone finds a way to viably use the card. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hypnox 01/15/22 3:11:18 AM #15:	There's literally normal monsters that's triple digit attack and defense from the first expansions that never had a use. --- http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0ajm6lGqf1qekkfi.gif <cite>hypnox posted [p:961760245] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>There's literally normal monsters that's triple digit attack and defense from the first expansions that never had a use. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 01/15/22 3:53:26 AM #16:	The thing is in almost every other CCG, "bad" is subjective because there are all kinds of tradeoffs involved -- maybe a 1/1 monster costs less than a 2/2 monster, or have an ability, or had a different cost (blue mana instead of red) -- so you're less likely to have things that are just worse versions of other things. YGO's cost system heavily had strictly worse versions. It was even more glaring in the early game where monster levels only mattered in terms of tributes. Later on, card effects meant that a lv5 was sometimes a lv6 despite both usually requiring 1 tribute (ie, legendary ocean which meant lv5s could be played as lv4s, skipping a tribute) I'm going to say a large part of the problem was that YGO probably wasn't designed as a CCG -- or, at least, not as a real CCG. I'm pretty sure it first appeared in the manga and then the popularity led to adapting cards that simply appeared in the media, and the overall philosophy from the early game ensured a lot of useless cards got developed for no good reason. That kinda changed as the game continued, so there are fewer just absolute crap cards today. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:961760649] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>The thing is in almost every other CCG, "bad" is subjective because there are all kinds of tradeoffs involved -- maybe a 1/1 monster costs less than a 2/2 monster, or have an ability, or had a different cost (blue mana instead of red) -- so you're less likely to have things that are just worse versions of other things. YGO's cost system heavily had strictly worse versions. It was even more glaring in the early game where monster levels only mattered in terms of tributes. Later on, card effects meant that a lv5 was sometimes a lv6 despite both usually requiring 1 tribute (ie, legendary ocean which meant lv5s could be played as lv4s, skipping a tribute) I'm going to say a large part of the problem was that YGO probably wasn't designed as a CCG -- or, at least, not as a real CCG. I'm pretty sure it first appeared in the manga and then the popularity led to adapting cards that simply appeared in the media, and the overall philosophy from the early game ensured a lot of useless cards got developed for no good reason. That kinda changed as the game continued, so there are fewer just absolute crap cards today. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeldaMutant 01/15/22 4:00:32 AM #17:	They're part pack filler to drive up the demand for the really good cards. They're also budget options for players who can't afford the ultra rare archetypes. --- 96065 <cite>ZeldaMutant posted [p:961760715] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>They're part pack filler to drive up the demand for the really good cards. They're also budget options for players who can't afford the ultra rare archetypes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 01/15/22 5:47:29 AM #18:	ZeldaMutant posted... They're part pack filler to drive up the demand for the really good cards. They're also budget options for players who can't afford the ultra rare archetypes. No, most of them aren't budget options, they're just crap. Some of the modern ones might be budget, but there isn't much you can do with a vanilla 500/500 --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:961761494] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>ZeldaMutant posted... </cite> <quote>They're part pack filler to drive up the demand for the really good cards. They're also budget options for players who can't afford the ultra rare archetypes.</quote> No, most of them aren't budget options, they're just crap. Some of the modern ones might be budget, but there isn't much you can do with a vanilla 500/500 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfernalFive 01/15/22 6:33:06 AM #19:	The early yugioh days were awful. Sometimes it felt like the metagame revolved around maybe 3 or 4 strategies and that was it. Fuck I remember all those useless vanilla and fusion monsters. I think it took maybe 4 or 5 years before the TCG was actually fun to play. --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyfabsU4xH1qzy531o1_500.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ggCrHk8.jpg <cite>InfernalFive posted [p:961761834] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>The early yugioh days were awful. Sometimes it felt like the metagame revolved around maybe 3 or 4 strategies and that was it. Fuck I remember all those useless vanilla and fusion monsters. I think it took maybe 4 or 5 years before the TCG was actually fun to play. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonClaw01 01/15/22 10:38:34 AM #20:	Yeah fusions and ritual summons were always useless. They eventually tried balancing it around tribals or whatever the Yu-Gi-Oh term for it was and got some success as it pushed the player to play around certain strategies, then they broke the game in half with pendulum summons. Now cards have so much damn text on them it is like reading a Jane Austen novel. I don't know why any one would play it now --- <('.'<) <(^.^)> (>'.')> Splendiferous <cite>DragonClaw01 posted [p:961764673] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>Yeah fusions and ritual summons were always useless. They eventually tried balancing it around tribals or whatever the Yu-Gi-Oh term for it was and got some success as it pushed the player to play around certain strategies, then they broke the game in half with pendulum summons. Now cards have so much damn text on them it is like reading a Jane Austen novel. I don't know why any one would play it now </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 01/15/22 10:54:26 AM #21:	ZeldaMutant posted... pack filler It's like Gacha. Why do R and SR cards exist when SSRs are the only ones worth using? --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:961764938] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>ZeldaMutant posted... </cite> <quote>pack filler</quote> It's like Gacha. Why do R and SR cards exist when SSRs are the only ones worth using? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 01/15/22 10:58:13 AM #22:	Judgmenl posted... It's like Gacha. Why do R and SR cards exist when SSRs are the only ones worth using? That said, some Gacha games have lesser rarity cards that are really good --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:961764981] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>Judgmenl posted...</cite> <quote>It's like Gacha. Why do R and SR cards exist when SSRs are the only ones worth using?</quote> That said, some Gacha games have lesser rarity cards that are really good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JOExHIGASHI 01/15/22 1:44:03 PM #23:	CinderLock posted... Exactly loads of archetypes to make different decks. I used to use mistwalkers when they first came out and morphtronics I had a blue eyes deck made from 3 blue eyes structure decks. It was never competitive because I needed a lot of extra deck cards and I never felt like spending the money to make a competitive deck. --- Next Xbox will be named Xbox1 2 <cite>JOExHIGASHI posted [p:961768223] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>CinderLock posted... </cite> <quote>Exactly loads of archetypes to make different decks. I used to use mistwalkers when they first came out and morphtronics</quote>I had a blue eyes deck made from 3 blue eyes structure decks. It was never competitive because I needed a lot of extra deck cards and I never felt like spending the money to make a competitive deck. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notschmendrake 01/15/22 1:47:50 PM #24:	Rhystic studies did a look at an MTG card "one with nothing" that does a pretty good job explaining why card games need bad cards. https://youtu.be/A_ndD-QmPJg <cite>Notschmendrake posted [p:961768296] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>Rhystic studies did a look at an MTG card "one with nothing" that does a pretty good job explaining why card games need bad cards. https://youtu.be/A_ndD-QmPJg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unbridled9 01/15/22 3:58:08 PM #25:	hypnox posted... There's literally normal monsters that's triple digit attack and defense from the first expansions that never had a use. Yea. Back then the game lacked focus and people didn't really know/understand how it would be played. So there were a lot of useless normal monsters with no effect or stats or anything as a result. Remember, at the time they thought things like REBD would be extremely strong (on it's own I mean) and that Insect Queen was a 'boss' monster. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. - Venat <cite>Unbridled9 posted [p:961770952] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>hypnox posted... </cite> <quote>There's literally normal monsters that's triple digit attack and defense from the first expansions that never had a use.</quote> Yea. Back then the game lacked focus and people didn't really know/understand how it would be played. So there were a lot of useless normal monsters with no effect or stats or anything as a result. Remember, at the time they thought things like REBD would be extremely strong (on it's own I mean) and that Insect Queen was a 'boss' monster. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 01/15/22 4:01:13 PM #26:	They're there for filler so you don't just buy 5 boosters and have a workable deck. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:961771022] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>They're there for filler so you don't just buy 5 boosters and have a workable deck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 01/15/22 4:22:22 PM #27:	Some of the super underpowered, 5+ star vanilla monsters still need retrains with effects badly. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:961771472] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>Some of the super underpowered, 5+ star vanilla monsters still need retrains with effects badly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 01/15/22 4:24:05 PM #28:	I just want to play Master Duel to mess around with the vtuber archtype by playing against actual players and not bots (even if the archtype is super mediocre). --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:961771519] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>I just want to play Master Duel to mess around with the vtuber archtype by playing against actual players and not bots (even if the archtype is super mediocre). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thedicemaster 01/16/22 2:22:50 PM #29:	i don't remember the name, but there's a card that shuts down any card with 4 or more stars. would be really useful to have a 500/400 2 or 3 star monster with an axe of despair or two if that happens. yu-gi-oh has some crazy card interactions, giving pretty much any card a use. <cite>thedicemaster posted [p:961795650] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>i don't remember the name, but there's a card that shuts down any card with 4 or more stars. would be really useful to have a 500/400 2 or 3 star monster with an axe of despair or two if that happens. yu-gi-oh has some crazy card interactions, giving pretty much any card a use. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
argonautweakend 01/16/22 2:30:29 PM #30:	They have limited uses but really they are just filler. <cite>argonautweakend posted [p:961795860] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>They have limited uses but really they are just filler. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
argonautweakend 01/16/22 2:32:51 PM #31:	thedicemaster posted... i don't remember the name, but there's a card that shuts down any card with 4 or more stars. would be really useful to have a 500/400 2 or 3 star monster with an axe of despair or two if that happens. Gravity Bind. However even so, there isn't much use for those ones because there are some stronger 3* star would help out in that case better. <cite>argonautweakend posted [p:961795926] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>thedicemaster posted... </cite> <quote>i don't remember the name, but there's a card that shuts down any card with 4 or more stars. would be really useful to have a 500/400 2 or 3 star monster with an axe of despair or two if that happens. </quote> Gravity Bind. However even so, there isn't much use for those ones because there are some stronger 3* star would help out in that case better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 01/16/22 3:50:32 PM #32:	thedicemaster posted... i don't remember the name, but there's a card that shuts down any card with 4 or more stars. would be really useful to have a 500/400 2 or 3 star monster with an axe of despair or two if that happens. yu-gi-oh has some crazy card interactions, giving pretty much any card a use. Two spell cards to make a monster that's weaker than a blue eyes and can be beat with trash tier traps. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:961798083] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>thedicemaster posted...</cite> <quote>i don't remember the name, but there's a card that shuts down any card with 4 or more stars. would be really useful to have a 500/400 2 or 3 star monster with an axe of despair or two if that happens. yu-gi-oh has some crazy card interactions, giving pretty much any card a use. </quote> Two spell cards to make a monster that's weaker than a blue eyes and can be beat with trash tier traps.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TigerTycoon 01/16/22 3:58:17 PM #33:	I'm not sure I know of a TCG without filler cards to lower the chances of people getting the good ones in card packs (not that I've played every TCG ever). That said for Yu-Gi-Oh specifically there are plenty of cards with terrible stats but insane effects. --- YOU COULDN'T AFFORD IT! <cite>TigerTycoon posted [p:961798339] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure I know of a TCG without filler cards to lower the chances of people getting the good ones in card packs (not that I've played every TCG ever). That said for Yu-Gi-Oh specifically there are plenty of cards with terrible stats but insane effects. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonClaw01 01/16/22 8:01:09 PM #34:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Two spell cards to make a monster that's weaker than a blue eyes and can be beat with trash tier traps. Plus you are sacrificing your whole deck for a card that is hardly even a win condition. If I was making that much of a commitment I would want a near guaranteed chance of victory. Disabling your opponent from attacking for a few turns in hardly a win condition & the card doesn't disable monster effects, spell cards & trap cards, so it is doubtful it would even last more than a turn or even be able to played in the first place. Even if you were playing some UU format, I don't see it being an effective build even if you just use it as a card to try to ramp. --- <('.'<) <(^.^)> (>'.')> Splendiferous <cite>DragonClaw01 posted [p:961806119] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite> <quote>Two spell cards to make a monster that's weaker than a blue eyes and can be beat with trash tier traps.</quote>Plus you are sacrificing your whole deck for a card that is hardly even a win condition. If I was making that much of a commitment I would want a near guaranteed chance of victory. Disabling your opponent from attacking for a few turns in hardly a win condition & the card doesn't disable monster effects, spell cards & trap cards, so it is doubtful it would even last more than a turn or even be able to played in the first place. Even if you were playing some UU format, I don't see it being an effective build even if you just use it as a card to try to ramp. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 01/16/22 8:15:15 PM #35:	Actual battling of monsters is such a trivial part of Yugioh these days. You deal with monsters and bacakrow via destruction effects, not the battle phase. Ideally you prevent monster summoning all together with negates. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:961806688] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>Actual battling of monsters is such a trivial part of Yugioh these days. You deal with monsters and bacakrow via destruction effects, not the battle phase. Ideally you prevent monster summoning all together with negates. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 01/17/22 11:07:51 PM #36:	DragonClaw01 posted... Yeah fusions and ritual summons were always useless. They eventually tried balancing it around tribals or whatever the Yu-Gi-Oh term for it was and got some success as it pushed the player to play around certain strategies, then they broke the game in half with pendulum summons. Now cards have so much damn text on them it is like reading a Jane Austen novel. I don't know why any one would play it now Fusions being useless isn't entirely true, because there were improvements down the road. The core principal as originally presented didn't work in a game where you could easily destroy a monster outside of combat. thedicemaster posted... i don't remember the name, but there's a card that shuts down any card with 4 or more stars. would be really useful to have a 500/400 2 or 3 star monster with an axe of despair or two if that happens. yu-gi-oh has some crazy card interactions, giving pretty much any card a use. No, a lot of cards are still useless or inferior. In the the case of Gravity Bind and Level Limit Area B, you both have Legendary Ocean lowering Water monsters from lv4 to lv3 (some of whom can attack an opponent directly) and plenty of more useful lv3s... and lv4s who deal damage outside of combat --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:961839063] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>DragonClaw01 posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah fusions and ritual summons were always useless. They eventually tried balancing it around tribals or whatever the Yu-Gi-Oh term for it was and got some success as it pushed the player to play around certain strategies, then they broke the game in half with pendulum summons. Now cards have so much damn text on them it is like reading a Jane Austen novel. I don't know why any one would play it now</quote> Fusions being useless isn't entirely true, because there were improvements down the road. The core principal as originally presented didn't work in a game where you could easily destroy a monster outside of combat. thedicemaster posted... </cite> <quote>i don't remember the name, but there's a card that shuts down any card with 4 or more stars. would be really useful to have a 500/400 2 or 3 star monster with an axe of despair or two if that happens. yu-gi-oh has some crazy card interactions, giving pretty much any card a use.</quote> No, a lot of cards are still useless or inferior. In the the case of Gravity Bind and Level Limit Area B, you both have Legendary Ocean lowering Water monsters from lv4 to lv3 (some of whom can attack an opponent directly) and plenty of more useful lv3s... and lv4s who deal damage outside of combat </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSlinja 01/17/22 11:30:49 PM #37:	DragonClaw01 posted... Yeah fusions and ritual summons were always useless. They eventually tried balancing it around tribals or whatever the Yu-Gi-Oh term for it was and got some success as it pushed the player to play around certain strategies, then they broke the game in half with pendulum summons. Now cards have so much damn text on them it is like reading a Jane Austen novel. I don't know why any one would play it now this reads like a post from 2015 fusion is the best mechanic in the game right now, rituals were the best the format prior, and pendulum hasnt been relevent in years --- DIRT ON ME I'M FINNA BLOSSOM <cite>TheSlinja posted [p:961839487] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>DragonClaw01 posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah fusions and ritual summons were always useless. They eventually tried balancing it around tribals or whatever the Yu-Gi-Oh term for it was and got some success as it pushed the player to play around certain strategies, then they broke the game in half with pendulum summons. Now cards have so much damn text on them it is like reading a Jane Austen novel. I don't know why any one would play it now</quote>this reads like a post from 2015 fusion is the best mechanic in the game right now, rituals were the best the format prior, and pendulum hasnt been relevent in years </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonClaw01 01/17/22 11:36:01 PM #38:	Fusions are still pretty bad. Thier whole gimmick is that they allow you to summon a powerful monster without tributing, but it is so easy to special summon most monsters that such a gimmick is meaningless anyways. Plus they require a specific hand and in I believe Yu Gi Oh does not give you too many good ways to draw, at least compared to Magic anyways --- <('.'<) <(^.^)> (>'.')> Splendiferous <cite>DragonClaw01 posted [p:961839564] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>Fusions are still pretty bad. Thier whole gimmick is that they allow you to summon a powerful monster without tributing, but it is so easy to special summon most monsters that such a gimmick is meaningless anyways. Plus they require a specific hand and in I believe Yu Gi Oh does not give you too many good ways to draw, at least compared to Magic anyways </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 01/17/22 11:36:49 PM #39:	TCGs are pay to win, change my mind --- http://i.imgur.com/1XbPahR.png <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:961839584] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>TCGs are pay to win, change my mind </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CinderLock 01/18/22 1:00:08 AM #40:	DragonClaw01 posted... Fusions are still pretty bad. Thier whole gimmick is that they allow you to summon a powerful monster without tributing, but it is so easy to special summon most monsters that such a gimmick is meaningless anyways. Plus they require a specific hand and in I believe Yu Gi Oh does not give you too many good ways to draw, at least compared to Magic anyways Tell me you know nothing about yugioh without telling me you know nothing about yugioh Blightzkrieg posted... TCGs are pay to win, change my mind If you know what you're doing yes but if you're bad you're still gonna lose. --- Kathy Bates inspires fear in the soul, hence the validity of humanity. - Wolfy42 <cite>CinderLock posted [p:961841002] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>DragonClaw01 posted... </cite> <quote>Fusions are still pretty bad. Thier whole gimmick is that they allow you to summon a powerful monster without tributing, but it is so easy to special summon most monsters that such a gimmick is meaningless anyways. Plus they require a specific hand and in I believe Yu Gi Oh does not give you too many good ways to draw, at least compared to Magic anyways</quote>Tell me you know nothing about yugioh without telling me you know nothing about yugioh Blightzkrieg posted... </cite> <quote>TCGs are pay to win, change my mind</quote>If you know what you're doing yes but if you're bad you're still gonna lose. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 01/18/22 1:03:22 AM #41:	CinderLock posted... If you know what you're doing yes but if you're bad you're still gonna lose. Hey look, it's the defence used for every pay to win game in existence --- http://i.imgur.com/1XbPahR.png <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:961841051] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>CinderLock posted... </cite> <quote>If you know what you're doing yes but if you're bad you're still gonna lose.</quote>Hey look, it's the defence used for every pay to win game in existence </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CinderLock 01/18/22 1:06:16 AM #42:	Blightzkrieg posted... Hey look, it's the defence used for every pay to win game in existence What's your point? I'm not defending it I agreed with you if you know what you're doing then yes it is pay to win. If you don't know what you're doing then it won't matter. --- Kathy Bates inspires fear in the soul, hence the validity of humanity. - Wolfy42 <cite>CinderLock posted [p:961841095] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>Blightzkrieg posted... </cite> <quote>Hey look, it's the defence used for every pay to win game in existence</quote>What's your point? I'm not defending it I agreed with you if you know what you're doing then yes it is pay to win. If you don't know what you're doing then it won't matter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonClaw01 01/18/22 1:49:02 AM #43:	You have a lot of edge, but unfortunately very little point. --- <('.'<) <(^.^)> (>'.')> Splendiferous <cite>DragonClaw01 posted [p:961841624] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>You have a lot of edge, but unfortunately very little point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSlinja 01/18/22 6:07:58 AM #44:	DragonClaw01 posted... You have a lot of edge, but unfortunately very little point. buddy, "fusions are still pretty bad" is just blatantly wrong you arent an expert from playing yugioh 15 years ago,trading card games change over time imagine saying monsters are still pretty bad in mtg since it was true in the 90s --- DIRT ON ME I'M FINNA BLOSSOM <cite>TheSlinja posted [p:961843761] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>DragonClaw01 posted... </cite> <quote>You have a lot of edge, but unfortunately very little point.</quote>buddy, "fusions are still pretty bad" is just blatantly wrong you arent an expert from playing yugioh 15 years ago,trading card games change over time imagine saying monsters are still pretty bad in mtg since it was true in the 90s </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 01/18/22 7:38:04 AM #45:	Did someone say fusions are bad when Invoked exists? Hasn't that shit been meta since its release? --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:961844413] in I could ne... [t:79853832]...</cite> <quote>Did someone say fusions are bad when Invoked exists? Hasn't that shit been meta since its release? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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