Current Events > Lindsay Ellis quitting YouTube, content creation in general

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Jabodie
12/27/21 10:09:11 PM
#52:


This reminds me of when AVGN made that video saying "the new Ghostbusters looks bad so I'm just not going to watch it" and a bunch of people blew a gasket. And in response, James just seemed to not give a fuck.

It was kind of impressive imo

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TheSavageDragon
12/27/21 10:09:20 PM
#53:


Why the hell does someone that uploads a video once a blue moon need employees? Not employee, but multiple employees. I get that lots of content creators hire an editor so they can focus on the actual content, but these are people with a steady weekly or even daily upload schedule.
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cjsdowg
12/27/21 10:12:08 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Cj is shitting his pants that a film critic made fun of a racially insensitive film.

No she made a racially insensitive comment about a real person who lived and is very key to African Americans.. And she lost no support. She worked closely with women who literally lied about Black actors and claimed that did things that they did not do. And pointing something out is not shitting my pants, by pointing something out.

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DeadBankerDream
12/27/21 10:13:27 PM
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As I recall Twitter got mad that she compared two American-produced Asian themed cartoons and called it racist that she wanted "Asianness" to exist as its own genre.

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SSJKirby
12/27/21 10:14:23 PM
#57:


Jabodie posted...
This reminds me of when AVGN made that video saying "the new Ghostbusters looks bad so I'm just not going to watch it" and a bunch of people blew a gasket. And in response, James just seemed to not give a fuck.

It was kind of impressive imo
he didn't even say it looked bad, just that it wasn't his Ghostbusters

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Jabodie
12/27/21 10:14:41 PM
#58:


DeadBankerDream posted...
As I recall Twitter got mad that she compared two American-produced Asian themed cartoons and called it racist that she wanted "Asianness" to exist as its own genre.
That's a pretty impressive stretch.

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Snakebone99
12/27/21 10:15:01 PM
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Can someone explain what was bad about what she said?

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CyricZ
12/27/21 10:15:46 PM
#60:


Taut stretching abounds in this topic.

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Smackems
12/27/21 10:16:35 PM
#61:


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CyricZ
12/27/21 10:19:03 PM
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Here's a capture of the incident back in March and its short term follow-up.

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/03/28/why-is-lindsay-ellis-cancelled-twitter-drama-explained/

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Zero_Destroyer
12/27/21 10:21:13 PM
#66:


The people who whine about Ellis are the same people who think Contrapoints is secretly a TERF or whatever

It's a lot of dudebro "leftists" that just want to harass women. It's hard to convince me otherwise because women are pretty frequently the target of even left wing-directed twitter hate mobs. Sadly, they've now claimed Ellis, who has done a lot of good content over the years.


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Kim_Seong-a
12/27/21 10:21:41 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Isn't that just Gundam? >_>

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Zero_Destroyer
12/27/21 10:24:36 PM
#69:


Basically, breadtube or whatever you call it needs to purge these people and send them off to their own deranged camp of fringe lunatics.

The point where you're organizing against avowed left wingers who 99.9% of the time say shit that you agree with and 0.01% of the time slip up in a social media-laced world in a minute and non-explicit manner is the point where you no longer have a grasp on reality.

At worst, you need mental health treatment for paranoia disorders, because the things these people do to youtube leftists have all the hallmarks of a paranoia disorder (speaking as someone medicated for that.)


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Bad_Mojo
12/27/21 10:24:56 PM
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My life ended nine months ago

I don't want to read the whole thing. What happened?

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refmon
12/27/21 10:29:31 PM
#71:


How can people STILL claim cancel culture doesn't exist?

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The_Critic
12/27/21 10:31:57 PM
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Compared to most youtube critics she seems to actually have original thoughts. But there has always been something about her I just cant stand.
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DeadBankerDream
12/27/21 10:34:28 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

IIRC people got really mad that she said "if you squint" while defending herself from claims of anti-Asian racism.

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White Eagle
12/27/21 10:35:11 PM
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Everything and everyone on every side of this incident is stupid. I want my time back.

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Ving_Rhames
12/27/21 10:35:50 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


It isn't.

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CyricZ
12/27/21 10:36:01 PM
#78:


There's not much else to tell. Apparently it's been in the background for the months since. I don't have receipts on harassment at any other time.

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AltyMcAltface
12/27/21 10:37:36 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

to be fair, one of the series' co-creators was the head writer and co-executive producer of ATLA

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Background_Guy
12/27/21 10:44:31 PM
#82:


refmon posted...
How can people STILL claim cancel culture doesn't exist?
Because she's self cancelling? You can cancel yourself.
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Hayame Zero
12/27/21 10:46:19 PM
#83:


Background_Guy posted...
Because she's self cancelling? You can cancel yourself.
Yeah, she made a really dumb observation, and everyone moved on from it afterwards...but she's the one still seemingly hung up on it

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Background_Guy
12/27/21 10:46:23 PM
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Jabodie posted...
This reminds me of when AVGN made that video saying "the new Ghostbusters looks bad so I'm just not going to watch it" and a bunch of people blew a gasket. And in response, James just seemed to not give a fuck.

It was kind of impressive imo
The difference is James doesn't live on social media. He seems to barely give a shit what his own audience thinks of him, let alone randos on twitter.
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Background_Guy
12/27/21 10:47:26 PM
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Hayame Zero posted...
Yeah, she made a really dumb observation, and everyone moved on from it afterwards...but she's the one still seemingly hung up on it
The mobbing was fucking awful and stupid. And I'm sure some idiots are still giving her shit for it.
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MrMallard
12/27/21 10:50:57 PM
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That's a shame. I found her through her Hobbit videos and trawled through her backlog. I really liked her stuff.

Don't at all blame her for this. She got married in the past couple years, at least, and I'm sure she'll be able to either continue writing her novels or hold down a day job that draws from the skills she learned in college and in her 15 odd years of writing, filming and editing video content for the internet.

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Hayame Zero
12/27/21 10:51:22 PM
#87:


Jabodie posted...
This reminds me of when AVGN made that video saying "the new Ghostbusters looks bad so I'm just not going to watch it" and a bunch of people blew a gasket. And in response, James just seemed to not give a fuck.

It was kind of impressive imo
According to Pat the NES Punk, he was surprised at the backlash because everyone thought he was being anti-women, but it was more of it being a reboot that doesn't follow the originals.

Being an all-female cast apparently didn't even register as a flaw for him, or even registered as anything at all

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PAE for this PD
12/27/21 10:51:30 PM
#88:


She should've just apologized, explain how she didn't realize how stereotypical it sounded, and then move on. Then she can ignore the people who still yell at her online, because at least she can rest easy with her conscious clear.

Her apology video failed because she combined it with a lot of grandstanding about cancel culture. I think that's why so many people thought she wasn't really that remorseful.

It is funny that she couldn't take the social media pitchforks, when on the other hand you see someone like JonTron continuing to chug on and on despite people constantly bringing up all the controversial things he's said. Doesn't phase his bottom line somehow.

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IMNOTRAGED
12/27/21 10:52:01 PM
#89:


refmon posted...
How can people STILL claim cancel culture doesn't exist?

I never got the sense that it was even a large number of people mad about her tweet. Ultimately she's the one who decided to give up on her career. She wasn't fired from youtube or Twitter lol

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LordMarshal
12/27/21 10:53:17 PM
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She aborted her career.

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MrMallard
12/27/21 11:04:02 PM
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Background_Guy posted...
The mobbing was fucking awful and stupid. And I'm sure some idiots are still giving her shit for it.
For real. Her response video to the backlash was really good at least, giving her side of the story and acknowledging the laundry list of grievances that stemmed from the initial Twitter backlash.

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IShall_Run_Amok
12/27/21 11:04:11 PM
#93:


She used to make fun videos about things I don't give a shit about. If she had made things I did give a shit about, they would have been better, but they also would never have had millions of views. Fun videos anyway.

Also obviously the Avatar comment wasn't anything wrong.

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Guide
12/27/21 11:06:43 PM
#94:


Hayame Zero posted...
Yeah, she made a really dumb observation, and everyone moved on from it afterwards...but she's the one still seemingly hung up on it

Don't see how you came to this conclusion. Her post says that her harassment has continued.

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sutree
12/27/21 11:19:10 PM
#95:


pinky0926 posted...
Lindsay Ellis built her entire fanbase out of the sort of people who patrol twitter looking for something to be offended by. Its no surprise at all that they imploded when she made even the slightest inappropriate remark

Again, her entire fanbase comprised the epicentre of bored tumblrinas. These people are the fucking worst. They live for this shit.

you nailed it here @pinky0926 . I don't know much know too much about Ellis but my understanding is yeah much of her fanbase is exactly the type of people who would turn on someone in an instant for some social media clout.

pinky0926 posted...
One last thought. This is what happens to people who exist in a microbubble on social media. To everyone involved this provably seemed like a huge deal (especially to her), but if you don't have twitter its impossible to wrap your head around. It feels so utterly inconsequential and odd.

For sure, but I think there's something larger going on here as well. People who accept and constantly engage in the sort of progressive rhetoric around "trauma", microaggressions, victimization and so on are not building a healthy, rational psyche. I think that sort of rhetoric tends to encourage catastrophizing and fragility.

Unless she doesn't engage in that sort of thing, then just ignore my comment. Again, I don't follow her.

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joe40001
12/27/21 11:22:45 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
IIRC people got really mad that she said "if you squint" while defending herself from claims of anti-Asian racism.

Yeah that was part of it. The woke anti-racists are the only ones these days to still view the world through old outdated racist stereotypes, most people are so passed that it never even crosses their mind.

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Alucard188
12/27/21 11:31:51 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
One last thought. This is what happens to people who exist in a microbubble on social media. To everyone involved this provably seemed like a huge deal (especially to her), but if you don't have twitter its impossible to wrap your head around. It feels so utterly inconsequential and odd.

I'm glad I was able to grow up in an era where I didn't form an identity based around what strangers thought. Social media isn't healthy.

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CinderLock
12/27/21 11:46:46 PM
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Big lipped alligator moment.

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spanky1
12/28/21 12:13:40 AM
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She was the lady that made those Hobbit movie documentaries. I like her.

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Kami_no_Kami
12/28/21 12:39:54 AM
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markconigliaro posted...
This is the tweet that she's referring to.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/0/7/AAC_ArAACvyH.jpg
Pretty sure battle shounen is already considered a genre
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