o Wisconsin Mom is DEAD after her OWN Pitbull TORE her ARMS OFF!!!

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Kyuubi4269 12/21/21 8:18:47 PM #51:	Cacciato posted... Id still like to know what they mean by pit bull at least, since that covers like a half-dozen breeds. All the breeds are in the same category, just as an AR-15 pattern rifle is an AR-15 pattern rifle, regardless of if it's a colt or sig sauer variant. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:961115121] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Cacciato posted...</cite> <quote>Id still like to know what they mean by pit bull at least, since that covers like a half-dozen breeds. </quote> All the breeds are in the same category, just as an AR-15 pattern rifle is an AR-15 pattern rifle, regardless of if it's a colt or sig sauer variant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 12/21/21 8:21:41 PM #52:	Kyuubi4269 posted... All the breeds are in the same category, just as an AR-15 pattern rifle is an AR-15 pattern rifle, regardless of if it's a colt or sig sauer variant. Congrats on writing one of the stupidest fucking things Ive read from you, which is saying something. <cite>Cacciato posted [p:961115209] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite> <quote>All the breeds are in the same category, just as an AR-15 pattern rifle is an AR-15 pattern rifle, regardless of if it's a colt or sig sauer variant.</quote>Congrats on writing one of the stupidest fucking things Ive read from you, which is saying something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EvilMegas 12/21/21 8:34:22 PM #53:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Fairly sure you're anti-gun, so... Never once said I was. --- The first person to be fully vaccinated on GameFaQs. Boobs are life, ass is hometown Kenichiro Takaki. <cite>EvilMegas posted [p:961115607] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite> <quote>Fairly sure you're anti-gun, so...</quote>Never once said I was. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 12/21/21 9:18:29 PM #54:	Kyuubi4269 posted... As you already stated in the beginning, that's an autonomous response. Reflexes aren't courageous. And what was it I said right after that? Kyuubi4269 posted... Removing a violent dog before the incident is very efficient Well yes, that would be the ideal, but we're talking specifically about the response to the crisis situation. Preventative measures that had to take place beforehand aren't really an option once the crisis begins. Kyuubi4269 posted... and the scale of the threat was fatal. The scale of the threat was one child in life-threatening danger. A larger-scale threat would be multiple people in life-threatening danger, in which case risking one life for the sake of saving several is a much easier cost-benefit analysis. Kyuubi4269 posted... If she just fled, she'd deserve much worse than prison. Consider a variant on the actual scenario: She charged in to help her son, but was killed/incapacitated almost immediately. The son continued crying, given how upsetting the situation was, which continued to agitate the dog and triggered another attack, this time killing the son because there was nobody to intervene. Her other child came in to see what all the noise was, also began crying, and also got attacked by the dog, resulting in another casualty. The father comes home half an hour later than he did and finds three corpses and a very agitated dog. That's a completely plausible alternative, had the father not happened to come home when he did. To be clear, I don't exactly like the idea of sacrificing the kid, and I can't imagine any parent would actually make this decision because of the emotions involved. I just recognize that, given that the incident had already begun (so preventative measures were out of the question), the best way to minimize the total loss of life would be to run away and lock the dog in with the kid. It's a similar principle to securing your own oxygen mask in a plane crash before doing your kid's or anyone else's: You're the only one with the power to help, but if you're unconscious/dead, you can't help anyone, so risking or even outright sacrificing another person to preserve your power to help is going to amount to the most good and minimize the overall risk. Again, though, that's my armchair analysis of the situation with the benefit of hindsight. I very much doubt any parent would actually min/max their children's mortal peril like that, mid-crisis. That's just the optimal strategy, provided we accept minimizing total loss of life to be the ultimate goal of whatever approach is taken. Kyuubi4269 posted... I'm coming from the angle that she should be willing to die to solve her mistake as she should be aware that she is fully responsible for the incident and the child deserves life more than her. So... "she should have felt that she deserved to die for this mistake." Basically the same thing, so my assessment remains the same. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:961116661] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite> <quote>As you already stated in the beginning, that's an autonomous response. Reflexes aren't courageous.</quote> And what was it I said right after that? Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite> <quote>Removing a violent dog before the incident is very efficient</quote> Well yes, that would be the ideal, but we're talking specifically about the response to the crisis situation. Preventative measures that had to take place beforehand aren't really an option once the crisis begins. Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite> <quote>and the scale of the threat was fatal.</quote> The scale of the threat was one child in life-threatening danger. A larger-scale threat would be multiple people in life-threatening danger, in which case risking one life for the sake of saving several is a much easier cost-benefit analysis. Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite> <quote>If she just fled, she'd deserve much worse than prison.</quote> Consider a variant on the actual scenario: She charged in to help her son, but was killed/incapacitated almost immediately. The son continued crying, given how upsetting the situation was, which continued to agitate the dog and triggered another attack, this time killing the son because there was nobody to intervene. Her other child came in to see what all the noise was, also began crying, and also got attacked by the dog, resulting in another casualty. The father comes home half an hour later than he did and finds three corpses and a very agitated dog. That's a completely plausible alternative, had the father not happened to come home when he did. To be clear, I don't exactly like the idea of sacrificing the kid, and I can't imagine any parent would actually make this decision because of the emotions involved. I just recognize that, given that the incident had already begun (so preventative measures were out of the question), the best way to minimize the total loss of life would be to run away and lock the dog in with the kid. It's a similar principle to securing your own oxygen mask in a plane crash before doing your kid's or anyone else's: You're the only one with the power to help, but if you're unconscious/dead, you can't help anyone, so risking or even outright sacrificing another person to preserve your power to help is going to amount to the most good and minimize the overall risk. Again, though, that's my armchair analysis of the situation with the benefit of hindsight. I very much doubt any parent would actually min/max their children's mortal peril like that, mid-crisis. That's just the optimal strategy, provided we accept minimizing total loss of life to be the ultimate goal of whatever approach is taken. Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm coming from the angle that she should be willing to die to solve her mistake as she should be aware that she is fully responsible for the incident and the child deserves life more than her.</quote> So... "she should have felt that she deserved to die for this mistake." Basically the same thing, so my assessment remains the same. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dioxxys 12/21/21 9:35:50 PM #55:	mario2000 posted... imagine being brainwashed by msm into thinking pit bulls are somehow different from any other dog i bet you cross the street when you see a minority walking towards you I'm guessing this is a troll post because of the stupidity of comparing this to human racism. Don't know about MSM but they are different from any other dog, and also it's not just one kind of dog. They were literally bred for killing. A pitbull is the result of breeding a hunting dog, i.e. a terrier, which have speed and agility with the power and bulk of a bulldog. It's no wonder that when we do hear about dog attacks, a majority of the time it's a pitbull. I understand yeah hashtag not all pitbulls but it's stupid that humans raise an animal that's literally capable of tearing your arms off. It's like the same reason we don't raise chimps as pets. <cite>dioxxys posted [p:961117055] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>mario2000 posted... </cite> <quote>imagine being brainwashed by msm into thinking pit bulls are somehow different from any other dog i bet you cross the street when you see a minority walking towards you</quote>I'm guessing this is a troll post because of the stupidity of comparing this to human racism. Don't know about MSM but they are different from any other dog, and also it's not just one kind of dog. They were literally bred for killing. A pitbull is the result of breeding a hunting dog, i.e. a terrier, which have speed and agility with the power and bulk of a bulldog. It's no wonder that when we do hear about dog attacks, a majority of the time it's a pitbull. I understand yeah hashtag not all pitbulls but it's stupid that humans raise an animal that's literally capable of tearing your arms off. It's like the same reason we don't raise chimps as pets. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BEERandWEED 12/21/21 9:45:25 PM #56:	Zeus posted... Bears also don't look menacing until, you know, they kill somebody. Yes they do. Zeus posted... 0%. They're not dogs. Cats will eat the soft tissue of your corpse after nobody notices your death and they don't want to starve to death along side of you. <cite>BEERandWEED posted [p:961117261] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>Bears also don't look menacing until, you know, they kill somebody.</quote>Yes they do. Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>0%. They're not dogs.</quote>Cats will eat the soft tissue of your corpse after nobody notices your death and they don't want to starve to death along side of you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 12/21/21 9:49:50 PM #57:	dioxxys posted... It's no wonder that when we do hear about dog attacks, a majority of the time it's a pitbull. That's less a matter of pit bulls being significantly more dangerous than other large, strong breeds of dog, and more a matter of pit bulls being fairly popular for people that want guard/attack dogs, who often mistreat them in training them for that role. If not for pit bulls, another, similar breed would hold that position and be roughly as dangerous. The core issue is not that pit bulls are strong enough to cause harm, it's that they're routinely abused in ways that promote aggressive behaviours, which rescues often try to train out of them. That abuse is a large-scale problem that won't go away by banning any specific breeds --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:961117366] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>dioxxys posted... </cite> <quote>It's no wonder that when we do hear about dog attacks, a majority of the time it's a pitbull.</quote> That's less a matter of pit bulls being significantly more dangerous than other large, strong breeds of dog, and more a matter of pit bulls being fairly popular for people that want guard/attack dogs, who often mistreat them in training them for that role. If not for pit bulls, another, similar breed would hold that position and be roughly as dangerous. The core issue is not that pit bulls are strong enough to cause harm, it's that they're routinely abused in ways that promote aggressive behaviours, which rescues often try to train out of them. That abuse is a large-scale problem that won't go away by banning any specific breeds </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nuggetg 12/21/21 10:14:15 PM #58:	kind9 posted... Yes, I do. I hate them and their owners. --- "There's always beer." <cite>nuggetg posted [p:961117873] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>kind9 posted... </cite> <quote>Yes, I do. I hate them and their owners.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ninja4820 12/21/21 11:46:22 PM #59:	These are the only kinds of dogs I hear this story about. Consistently. No one ever hears about a Beagle killing someone. All the folks that get defensive over this breed have something wrong with them. --- Killed 4819 ninjas to get here. <cite>Ninja4820 posted [p:961119651] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>These are the only kinds of dogs I hear this story about. Consistently. No one ever hears about a Beagle killing someone. All the folks that get defensive over this breed have something wrong with them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 12/22/21 2:20:04 AM #60:	Anyone see the video of the pit trying to kill a horse pulling a carriage in the middle of the day surrounded by a crowd of people? There's not another animal on the planet that would behave like that. --- staring down the barrel of the hot sun shining with the sheen of a shotgun <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:961121831] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Anyone see the video of the pit trying to kill a horse pulling a carriage in the middle of the day surrounded by a crowd of people? There's not another animal on the planet that would behave like that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
slacker03150 12/22/21 2:36:42 AM #61:	From Bowler. Less than an hour from here. Great casino but its weird hearing news from this area on gamefaqs lol. --- I am awesome and so are you. Lenny gone but not forgotten. - 12/10/2015 <cite>slacker03150 posted [p:961122005] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>From Bowler. Less than an hour from here. Great casino but its weird hearing news from this area on gamefaqs lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 12/22/21 3:03:45 AM #62:	Florin_TK4107 posted... e: profanity remove, when I get emotional there can be lots of it. Uh what? You censored it and even if it was uncensored that's not profanity whatsoever. acesxhigh posted... I disagree. Like, why do they have to even exist? They are clearly dangerous to people. They attack people constantly. And on the other hand they are not even remotely helpful to society. Shelters are full of them since nobody wants them. But they keep being bred. By who? Why? Time to exterminate all lions and tigers. EvilMegas posted... OH MY GOD, HOW MEANACING! https://imgur.com/a/IqqEonc You absolute horrible monster! mario2000 posted... imagine being brainwashed by msm into thinking pit bulls are somehow different from any other dog i bet you cross the street when you see a minority walking towards you I think people only cross the street if they see you. acesxhigh posted... ok, I don't really see it that way. there is something to be said philosophically about why certain people choose certain dogs, that's all. tends to be for reasons of vanity, which I think is kind of perverse. Citation needed. Zeus posted... 0%. They're not dogs. https://www.wired.com/story/will-your-cat-eat-your-corpse/ McSame_as_Bush posted... Anyone see the video of the pit trying to kill a horse pulling a carriage in the middle of the day surrounded by a crowd of people? There's not another animal on the planet that would behave like that. bears, lions, tigers. Probably crocodiles and alligators too if they were near water. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:961122250] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Florin_TK4107 posted...</cite> <quote>e: profanity remove, when I get emotional there can be lots of it.</quote> Uh what? You censored it and even if it was uncensored that's not profanity whatsoever. acesxhigh posted...</cite> <quote> I disagree. Like, why do they have to even exist? They are clearly dangerous to people. They attack people constantly. And on the other hand they are not even remotely helpful to society. Shelters are full of them since nobody wants them. But they keep being bred. By who? Why? </quote> Time to exterminate all lions and tigers. EvilMegas posted...</cite> <quote>OH MY GOD, HOW MEANACING! https://imgur.com/a/IqqEonc </quote> You absolute horrible monster! mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote>imagine being brainwashed by msm into thinking pit bulls are somehow different from any other dog i bet you cross the street when you see a minority walking towards you </quote> I think people only cross the street if they see you. acesxhigh posted...</cite> <quote> ok, I don't really see it that way. there is something to be said philosophically about why certain people choose certain dogs, that's all. tends to be for reasons of vanity, which I think is kind of perverse. </quote> Citation needed. Zeus posted...</cite> <quote> 0%. They're not dogs. </quote> https://www.wired.com/story/will-your-cat-eat-your-corpse/ McSame_as_Bush posted...</cite> <quote>Anyone see the video of the pit trying to kill a horse pulling a carriage in the middle of the day surrounded by a crowd of people? There's not another animal on the planet that would behave like that.</quote> bears, lions, tigers. Probably crocodiles and alligators too if they were near water.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 12/22/21 3:06:54 AM #63:	nuggetg posted... Yes, I do. I hate them and their owners. Revelation34 posted... No you don't. Ninja4820 posted... These are the only kinds of dogs I hear this story about. Consistently. No one ever hears about a Beagle killing someone. All the folks that get defensive over this breed have something wrong with them. I laughed. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:961122279] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>nuggetg posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, I do. I hate them and their owners. </quote> Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>No you don't.</quote> Ninja4820 posted...</cite> <quote>These are the only kinds of dogs I hear this story about. Consistently. No one ever hears about a Beagle killing someone. All the folks that get defensive over this breed have something wrong with them. </quote> I laughed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 12/22/21 4:15:36 AM #64:	Revelation34 posted... bears, lions, tigers. Probably crocodiles and alligators too if they were near water Solo in broad daylight in a crowd of people? Nope. Most animals are concerned with self-preservation and don't pick fights they can't win unless they're desperate, unwell, etc. To a pitbull, the sport of the fight mattered more than its own life. --- staring down the barrel of the hot sun shining with the sheen of a shotgun <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:961122894] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>bears, lions, tigers. Probably crocodiles and alligators too if they were near water</quote> Solo in broad daylight in a crowd of people? Nope. Most animals are concerned with self-preservation and don't pick fights they can't win unless they're desperate, unwell, etc. To a pitbull, the sport of the fight mattered more than its own life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 12/22/21 4:38:39 AM #65:	McSame_as_Bush posted... Solo in broad daylight in a crowd of people? Nope. Most animals are concerned with self-preservation and don't pick fights they can't win unless they're desperate, unwell, etc. To a pitbull, the sport of the fight mattered more than its own life. Yes. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:961123111] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>McSame_as_Bush posted...</cite> <quote> Solo in broad daylight in a crowd of people? Nope. Most animals are concerned with self-preservation and don't pick fights they can't win unless they're desperate, unwell, etc. To a pitbull, the sport of the fight mattered more than its own life.</quote> Yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dioxxys 12/22/21 10:24:10 AM #66:	McSame_as_Bush posted... Anyone see the video of the pit trying to kill a horse pulling a carriage in the middle of the day surrounded by a crowd of people? There's not another animal on the planet that would behave like that. Yeah I've seen multiple videos like that. If it's the one I'm thinking of it actually happened in my city. But yeah pits are relentless, they can be kicked by horses, bludgeoned by bikes, hit by bats and they still won't stop attacking <cite>dioxxys posted [p:961127093] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>McSame_as_Bush posted... </cite> <quote>Anyone see the video of the pit trying to kill a horse pulling a carriage in the middle of the day surrounded by a crowd of people? There's not another animal on the planet that would behave like that.</quote>Yeah I've seen multiple videos like that. If it's the one I'm thinking of it actually happened in my city. But yeah pits are relentless, they can be kicked by horses, bludgeoned by bikes, hit by bats and they still won't stop attacking </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSlinja 12/22/21 10:36:06 AM #67:	McSame_as_Bush posted... There's not another animal on the planet that would behave like that. this is such an incredibly stupid statement LOL --- DIRT ON ME I'M FINNA BLOSSOM <cite>TheSlinja posted [p:961127349] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>McSame_as_Bush posted... </cite> <quote>There's not another animal on the planet that would behave like that.</quote>this is such an incredibly stupid statement LOL </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockey7318 12/22/21 10:42:21 AM #68:	acesxhigh posted... Not saying kill them, just ban breeding them. There are plenty of other dogs to choose from. Pit owners are just narcissists, they love the way they can walk around with a pit and feel feared, powerful. While simultaneously they figure themselves to be the saviors of a discriminated race of poor doggos. My sister had a pit mix and I can say that seeing/hearing people be afraid of her made me feel like shit because the Kali was a sweet heart. An extremely nice, loyal dog that wanted exercise, cuddles, and as much love as she could get. She wasn't in our family because we liked to feel feared and powerful with her around; my sister picked her at the pound because she was a great dog that needed a home. Enough people know this, and I know people like you who think they are all dangerous aren't going to be swayed by the reality that it's all about the owners and what situations you put dogs in, but I still feel the need to spread the pit love. They are an amazing breed. <cite>hockey7318 posted [p:961127481] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>acesxhigh posted... </cite> <quote>Not saying kill them, just ban breeding them. There are plenty of other dogs to choose from. Pit owners are just narcissists, they love the way they can walk around with a pit and feel feared, powerful. While simultaneously they figure themselves to be the saviors of a discriminated race of poor doggos.</quote>My sister had a pit mix and I can say that seeing/hearing people be afraid of her made me feel like shit because the Kali was a sweet heart. An extremely nice, loyal dog that wanted exercise, cuddles, and as much love as she could get. She wasn't in our family because we liked to feel feared and powerful with her around; my sister picked her at the pound because she was a great dog that needed a home. Enough people know this, and I know people like you who think they are all dangerous aren't going to be swayed by the reality that it's all about the owners and what situations you put dogs in, but I still feel the need to spread the pit love. They are an amazing breed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 12/22/21 11:19:34 AM #69:	TheSlinja posted... this is such an incredibly stupid statement LOL Again. Self-preservation. That has been bred out of them. Animals generally don't try to kill just for the fun of it and don't pick fights they can't win. --- staring down the barrel of the hot sun shining with the sheen of a shotgun <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:961128348] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>TheSlinja posted...</cite> <quote>this is such an incredibly stupid statement LOL</quote> Again. Self-preservation. That has been bred out of them. Animals generally don't try to kill just for the fun of it and don't pick fights they can't win.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 12/22/21 11:20:33 AM #70:	hockey7318 posted... My sister had a pit mix and I can say that seeing/hearing people be afraid of her made me feel like shit because the Kali was a sweet heart. An extremely nice, loyal dog that wanted exercise, cuddles, and as much love as she could get. She wasn't in our family because we liked to feel feared and powerful with her around; my sister picked her at the pound because she was a great dog that needed a home. Enough people know this, and I know people like you who think they are all dangerous aren't going to be swayed by the reality that it's all about the owners and what situations you put dogs in, but I still feel the need to spread the pit love. They are an amazing breed. Imagine a product, like a ladder, that has 5% market share but is responsible for 75% of all fatal ladder accidents. At some point you have to stop blaming user error, and concede the ladder has a design flaw. --- staring down the barrel of the hot sun shining with the sheen of a shotgun <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:961128382] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>hockey7318 posted...</cite> <quote>My sister had a pit mix and I can say that seeing/hearing people be afraid of her made me feel like shit because the Kali was a sweet heart. An extremely nice, loyal dog that wanted exercise, cuddles, and as much love as she could get. She wasn't in our family because we liked to feel feared and powerful with her around; my sister picked her at the pound because she was a great dog that needed a home. Enough people know this, and I know people like you who think they are all dangerous aren't going to be swayed by the reality that it's all about the owners and what situations you put dogs in, but I still feel the need to spread the pit love. They are an amazing breed.</quote> Imagine a product, like a ladder, that has 5% market share but is responsible for 75% of all fatal ladder accidents. At some point you have to stop blaming user error, and concede the ladder has a design flaw.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 12/22/21 11:35:59 AM #71:	McSame_as_Bush posted... Imagine a product, like a ladder, that has 5% market share but is responsible for 75% of all fatal ladder accidents. At some point you have to stop blaming user error, and concede the ladder has a design flaw. Did you steal this off reddit? I saw this exact comment on a post about this on reddit --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:961128711] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>McSame_as_Bush posted... </cite> <quote>Imagine a product, like a ladder, that has 5% market share but is responsible for 75% of all fatal ladder accidents. At some point you have to stop blaming user error, and concede the ladder has a design flaw.</quote> Did you steal this off reddit? I saw this exact comment on a post about this on reddit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArvTheGreat 12/22/21 11:48:11 AM #72:	Ban pit bulls from being in house holds not only are they a threat to the owner they are a threat to others and that goes with any other dangerous animals like snakes and shit --- Things are about to get arvified <cite>ArvTheGreat posted [p:961128992] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Ban pit bulls from being in house holds not only are they a threat to the owner they are a threat to others and that goes with any other dangerous animals like snakes and shit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 12/22/21 11:49:28 AM #73:	McSame_as_Bush posted... Imagine a product, like a ladder, that has 5% market share but is responsible for 75% of all fatal ladder accidents. At some point you have to stop blaming user error, and concede the ladder has a design flaw. Depends why those accidents are happening. If there is a user error that is common to all of those accidents, blaming the ladder instead of that error isn't reasonable. Arguably, designing the ladder to be resistant to that error would be a good idea, but given that the fatal ladder accidents in question roughly amount to dropping the ladder on somebody else, the argument can just as easily be made that those committing the error should be held accountable for it. Or, to be less vaguely analogous about it, maybe we should be focusing on prosecuting people who cause their dogs to develop aggression issues instead of on banning specific breeds. The previous owners from whom problem pit bulls (or any other dogs) are rescued should be prevented from ever having contact with another dog again, by whatever means necessary. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:961129027] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>McSame_as_Bush posted... </cite> <quote>Imagine a product, like a ladder, that has 5% market share but is responsible for 75% of all fatal ladder accidents. At some point you have to stop blaming user error, and concede the ladder has a design flaw.</quote> Depends why those accidents are happening. If there is a user error that is common to all of those accidents, blaming the ladder instead of that error isn't reasonable. Arguably, designing the ladder to be resistant to that error would be a good idea, but given that the fatal ladder accidents in question roughly amount to dropping the ladder on somebody else, the argument can just as easily be made that those committing the error should be held accountable for it. Or, to be less vaguely analogous about it, maybe we should be focusing on prosecuting people who cause their dogs to develop aggression issues instead of on banning specific breeds. The previous owners from whom problem pit bulls (or any other dogs) are rescued should be prevented from ever having contact with another dog again, by whatever means necessary. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 12/22/21 12:00:12 PM #74:	Jen0125 posted... Did you steal this off reddit? I saw this exact comment on a post about this on reddit Maybe. --- staring down the barrel of the hot sun shining with the sheen of a shotgun <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:961129237] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>Did you steal this off reddit? I saw this exact comment on a post about this on reddit </quote> Maybe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BEERandWEED 12/22/21 12:06:19 PM #75:	McSame_as_Bush posted... Imagine a product, like a ladder, that has 5% market share but is responsible for 75% of all fatal ladder accidents. At some point you have to stop blaming user error, and concede the ladder has a design flaw. I'm currently trying to train a ladder to attack people on command. I'll get back you to on that. <cite>BEERandWEED posted [p:961129407] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>McSame_as_Bush posted... </cite> <quote>Imagine a product, like a ladder, that has 5% market share but is responsible for 75% of all fatal ladder accidents. At some point you have to stop blaming user error, and concede the ladder has a design flaw.</quote>I'm currently trying to train a ladder to attack people on command. I'll get back you to on that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arishok 12/22/21 12:29:09 PM #76:	I don't hate pitbulls. As others have said, it's best not to have kids if you wanna own one. I don't blame the dog at all. --- Vinek Kathas. <cite>Arishok posted [p:961129938] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>I don't hate pitbulls. As others have said, it's best not to have kids if you wanna own one. I don't blame the dog at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 12/22/21 12:33:57 PM #77:	BEERandWEED posted... I'm currently trying to train a ladder to attack people on command. I'll get back you to on that. 4 weeks later It's day seven of the ladder apocalypse. We lost Jake yesterday, leaving just six of us as the last known vestige of humanity. Our underground base remains secure, but by the sounds coming from above, I think they have learned to dig. It's only a matter of time now. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:961130046] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>BEERandWEED posted... </cite> <quote>I'm currently trying to train a ladder to attack people on command. I'll get back you to on that.</quote> 4 weeks later It's day seven of the ladder apocalypse. We lost Jake yesterday, leaving just six of us as the last known vestige of humanity. Our underground base remains secure, but by the sounds coming from above, I think they have learned to dig. It's only a matter of time now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arishok 12/22/21 2:04:25 PM #78:	It's a known fact that ladders can't climb. Should have made your base on a building. --- Vinek Kathas. <cite>Arishok posted [p:961132161] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>It's a known fact that ladders can't climb. Should have made your base on a building.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonClaw01 12/22/21 2:08:06 PM #79:	Both arms. Jeez, we should send these things to battle the Taliban, they won't stand a chance. --- <('.'<) <(^.^)> (>'.')> Splendiferous <cite>DragonClaw01 posted [p:961132256] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Both arms. Jeez, we should send these things to battle the Taliban, they won't stand a chance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC 12/22/21 2:48:37 PM #80:	Zareth posted... It's INCREDIBLY difficult. And yeah, definitely a no-no for a house with children. Fuck everyone who wants to kill them all though. If you raise one from puppyhood and treat it with love it will act like any other dog. Buddy of mine once had a pit that he'd raised from a puppy, and she was the absolute sweetest dog I've ever known. Strong as hell and when she played with you it was like wrestling a sack of concrete that had a mind of its own, but she would also flop down at your feet the moment you stepped into the house demanding belly rubs. --- "People say this is the age of technology. They're wrong. This is the age of misdirection. Trickery is what I do best." -- Mr. World <cite>DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted [p:961133314] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Zareth posted... </cite> <quote>It's INCREDIBLY difficult. And yeah, definitely a no-no for a house with children. Fuck everyone who wants to kill them all though. If you raise one from puppyhood and treat it with love it will act like any other dog.</quote>Buddy of mine once had a pit that he'd raised from a puppy, and she was the absolute sweetest dog I've ever known. Strong as hell and when she played with you it was like wrestling a sack of concrete that had a mind of its own, but she would also flop down at your feet the moment you stepped into the house demanding belly rubs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 12/22/21 3:02:48 PM #81:	Arishok posted... It's a known fact that ladders can't climb. Should have made your base on a building. Squad 4 tried that. The chain ladder they made to get up there unfurled itself in the night and hauled up a team of guerrilla stepstools. There were no survivors. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:961133709] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Arishok posted... </cite> <quote>It's a known fact that ladders can't climb. Should have made your base on a building.</quote> Squad 4 tried that. The chain ladder they made to get up there unfurled itself in the night and hauled up a team of guerrilla stepstools. There were no survivors. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 12/22/21 3:38:21 PM #82:	Lokarin posted... 100% of cats will eat you I'd go so far to argue that cats CANNOT be domesticated, period. The only difference between a housecat and a lion is that a housecat can't maul you to death when you piss it off. --- In my opinion, all slavery is wrong, even the really fancy kind - Mead <cite>Zareth posted [p:961134584] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Lokarin posted... </cite> <quote>100% of cats will eat you</quote>I'd go so far to argue that cats CANNOT be domesticated, period. The only difference between a housecat and a lion is that a housecat can't maul you to death when you piss it off. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 12/22/21 3:41:03 PM #83:	adjl posted... If not for pit bulls, another, similar breed would hold that position and be roughly as dangerous. Yeah if you mistreat a doberman, rotweiler, or german shepherd with the intent to raise it as a guard/attack dog, it will be just as dangerous. --- In my opinion, all slavery is wrong, even the really fancy kind - Mead <cite>Zareth posted [p:961134657] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>If not for pit bulls, another, similar breed would hold that position and be roughly as dangerous.</quote>Yeah if you mistreat a doberman, rotweiler, or german shepherd with the intent to raise it as a guard/attack dog, it will be just as dangerous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 12/22/21 4:00:58 PM #84:	The issue with pitbulls isn't necessarily their temperament but their ability to kill and how they attack. When a pitbull decides to attack, they start and don't stop until either they are dead or the prey is. They have extremely strong jaws and bites that cause massive destruction. --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:961135113] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>The issue with pitbulls isn't necessarily their temperament but their ability to kill and how they attack. When a pitbull decides to attack, they start and don't stop until either they are dead or the prey is. They have extremely strong jaws and bites that cause massive destruction. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arishok 12/22/21 4:05:16 PM #85:	adjl posted... Squad 4 tried that. The chain ladder they made to get up there unfurled itself in the night and hauled up a team of guerrilla stepstools. There were no survivors. Shit. I forgot about the guerrilla stepstools. --- Vinek Kathas. <cite>Arishok posted [p:961135215] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted...</cite> <quote> Squad 4 tried that. The chain ladder they made to get up there unfurled itself in the night and hauled up a team of guerrilla stepstools. There were no survivors. </quote> Shit. I forgot about the guerrilla stepstools.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 12/23/21 12:40:03 AM #86:	Jen0125 posted... The issue with pitbulls isn't necessarily their temperament but their ability to kill and how they attack. When a pitbull decides to attack, they start and don't stop until either they are dead or the prey is. They have extremely strong jaws and bites that cause massive destruction. They have a strong bite, but aren't in the top-5 among dogs breeds. Their problem is that they are direct descents of a now extinct 19th century British breed that was specifically bred for blood sports. --- staring down the barrel of the hot sun shining with the sheen of a shotgun <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:961146580] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>The issue with pitbulls isn't necessarily their temperament but their ability to kill and how they attack. When a pitbull decides to attack, they start and don't stop until either they are dead or the prey is. They have extremely strong jaws and bites that cause massive destruction. </quote> They have a strong bite, but aren't in the top-5 among dogs breeds. Their problem is that they are direct descents of a now extinct 19th century British breed that was specifically bred for blood sports.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulbinking 12/23/21 1:21:42 AM #87:	adjl posted... Categorically hating the breed is unfair I agree. They were bred to be aggressive. Why hate them for it? I hate the owners. No, not the ones who use them as mean attack dogs, the ones who think that genetic inbred instinct doesnt exist and treat their cute pitties like its a poodle or a pekingese. --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings 3DS 5370-0410-4945 <cite>bulbinking posted [p:961147194] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>Categorically hating the breed is unfair</quote> I agree. They were bred to be aggressive. Why hate them for it? I hate the owners. No, not the ones who use them as mean attack dogs, the ones who think that genetic inbred instinct doesnt exist and treat their cute pitties like its a poodle or a pekingese. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 12/23/21 2:02:31 AM #88:	BEERandWEED posted... Yes they do. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/8/6/AABLmrAACuzS.jpg So threatening! adjl posted... That's less a matter of pit bulls being significantly more dangerous than other large, strong breeds of dog, and more a matter of pit bulls being fairly popular for people that want guard/attack dogs, who often mistreat them in training them for that role. If not for pit bulls, another, similar breed would hold that position and be roughly as dangerous. The core issue is not that pit bulls are strong enough to cause harm, it's that they're routinely abused in ways that promote aggressive behaviours, which rescues often try to train out of them. That abuse is a large-scale problem that won't go away by banning any specific breeds ...which overlooks that pitbulls were specifically bred for that aggressive behavior, and are more inclined to aggressive behavior. And while other large dogs have been bred for aggressive behavior, pitbulls are disproportionately represented in attacks. And when you look at the dogs professional security uses, it's often not pitbulls. Why is that? However, if a handling ban on pitbulls leads to another breed becoming the new pitbull, then sanctions could be applied there as well. However, I doubt your slippery slope slides all that far, considering there are only a handful of breeds where that might apply. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:961147696] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>BEERandWEED posted... </cite> <quote>Yes they do.</quote> https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/8/6/AABLmrAACuzS.jpg So threatening! adjl posted... </cite> <quote>That's less a matter of pit bulls being significantly more dangerous than other large, strong breeds of dog, and more a matter of pit bulls being fairly popular for people that want guard/attack dogs, who often mistreat them in training them for that role. If not for pit bulls, another, similar breed would hold that position and be roughly as dangerous. The core issue is not that pit bulls are strong enough to cause harm, it's that they're routinely abused in ways that promote aggressive behaviours, which rescues often try to train out of them. That abuse is a large-scale problem that won't go away by banning any specific breeds</quote> ...which overlooks that pitbulls were specifically bred for that aggressive behavior, and are more inclined to aggressive behavior. And while other large dogs have been bred for aggressive behavior, pitbulls are disproportionately represented in attacks. And when you look at the dogs professional security uses, it's often not pitbulls. Why is that? However, if a handling ban on pitbulls leads to another breed becoming the new pitbull, then sanctions could be applied there as well. However, I doubt your slippery slope slides all that far, considering there are only a handful of breeds where that might apply. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 12/23/21 2:26:41 AM #89:	Zeus posted... So threatening! Yeah a bear not roaring or ready to attack does kind of look like a big doof --- In my opinion, all slavery is wrong, even the really fancy kind - Mead <cite>Zareth posted [p:961148016] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>So threatening!</quote>Yeah a bear not roaring or ready to attack does kind of look like a big doof </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 12/23/21 5:04:07 AM #90:	McSame_as_Bush posted... Again. Self-preservation. That has been bred out of them. Animals generally don't try to kill just for the fun of it and don't pick fights they can't win. Lol. Clearly you don't have a cat. ArvTheGreat posted... Ban pit bulls from being in house holds not only are they a threat to the owner they are a threat to others and that goes with any other dangerous animals like snakes and shit Good luck dying from a corn snake. bulbinking posted... I agree. They were bred to be aggressive. Why hate them for it? I hate the owners. No, not the ones who use them as mean attack dogs, the ones who think that genetic inbred instinct doesnt exist and treat their cute pitties like its a poodle or a pekingese. No you don't. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:961149473] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>McSame_as_Bush posted...</cite> <quote> Again. Self-preservation. That has been bred out of them. Animals generally don't try to kill just for the fun of it and don't pick fights they can't win.</quote> Lol. Clearly you don't have a cat. ArvTheGreat posted...</cite> <quote>Ban pit bulls from being in house holds not only are they a threat to the owner they are a threat to others and that goes with any other dangerous animals like snakes and shit </quote> Good luck dying from a corn snake. bulbinking posted...</cite> <quote> I agree. They were bred to be aggressive. Why hate them for it? I hate the owners. No, not the ones who use them as mean attack dogs, the ones who think that genetic inbred instinct doesnt exist and treat their cute pitties like its a poodle or a pekingese. </quote> No you don't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 12/23/21 8:38:32 AM #91:	McSame_as_Bush posted... They have a strong bite, but aren't in the top-5 among dogs breeds. Their problem is that they are direct descents of a now extinct 19th century British breed that was specifically bred for blood sports. You glossed over me talking about their method of attack but ok --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:961151587] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>McSame_as_Bush posted... </cite> <quote>They have a strong bite, but aren't in the top-5 among dogs breeds. Their problem is that they are direct descents of a now extinct 19th century British breed that was specifically bred for blood sports.</quote> You glossed over me talking about their method of attack but ok </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 12/23/21 10:37:50 AM #92:	Jen0125 posted... You glossed over me talking about their method of attack but ok That is their temperament. They lock on and they don't let go. It's instinctual. Like how a lab innately knows how to retrieve. --- staring down the barrel of the hot sun shining with the sheen of a shotgun <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:961153492] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>You glossed over me talking about their method of attack but ok </quote> That is their temperament. They lock on and they don't let go. It's instinctual. Like how a lab innately knows how to retrieve.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultra magnus13 12/23/21 11:42:36 AM #93:	mario2000 posted... imagine being brainwashed by msm into thinking pit bulls are somehow different from any other dog i bet you cross the street when you see a minority walking towards you While I don't think Pits need to be banned or regulated, most dogs ARE different. As mentioned above Labrador Retrievers are more likely to instinctively retrieve things. Heelers and Sheep dogs, will instinctively heard things. --- ?huh?........ it's just a box. <cite>ultra magnus13 posted [p:961154653] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote>imagine being brainwashed by msm into thinking pit bulls are somehow different from any other dog i bet you cross the street when you see a minority walking towards you </quote> While I don't think Pits need to be banned or regulated, most dogs ARE different. As mentioned above Labrador Retrievers are more likely to instinctively retrieve things. Heelers and Sheep dogs, will instinctively heard things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 12/23/21 12:11:57 PM #94:	mario2000 posted... imagine being brainwashed by msm into thinking pit bulls are somehow different from any other dog i bet you cross the street when you see a minority walking towards you What's up with pit people constantly making the comparison between racism and not liking their dangerous dog? Equating minorities to a dog breed is offensive. --- staring down the barrel of the hot sun shining with the sheen of a shotgun <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:961155297] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>mario2000 posted...</cite> <quote>imagine being brainwashed by msm into thinking pit bulls are somehow different from any other dog i bet you cross the street when you see a minority walking towards you</quote> What's up with pit people constantly making the comparison between racism and not liking their dangerous dog? Equating minorities to a dog breed is offensive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 12/23/21 12:19:23 PM #95:	McSame_as_Bush posted... What's up with pit people constantly making the comparison between racism and not liking their dangerous dog? Equating minorities to a dog breed is offensive. It really is very offensive --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:961155440] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>McSame_as_Bush posted... </cite> <quote>What's up with pit people constantly making the comparison between racism and not liking their dangerous dog? Equating minorities to a dog breed is offensive.</quote> It really is very offensive </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 12/23/21 12:47:24 PM #96:	McSame_as_Bush posted... What's up with pit people constantly making the comparison between racism and not liking their dangerous dog? Equating minorities to a dog breed is offensive. I don't even like pits but they have a point, unless you don't think people used to call native Americans savages or considered black people more dangerous. There are clear parallels there and you need to stop thinking about it as devaluing minorities by comparing to animals. --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:961155990] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>McSame_as_Bush posted... </cite> <quote>What's up with pit people constantly making the comparison between racism and not liking their dangerous dog? Equating minorities to a dog breed is offensive.</quote>I don't even like pits but they have a point, unless you don't think people used to call native Americans savages or considered black people more dangerous. There are clear parallels there and you need to stop thinking about it as devaluing minorities by comparing to animals. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 12/23/21 1:01:55 PM #97:	Muscles posted... I don't even like pits but they have a point, unless you don't think people used to call native Americans savages or considered black people more dangerous. There are clear parallels there and you need to stop thinking about it as devaluing minorities by comparing to animals. No, I'm going to choose not to ignore the demeaning of Black people by comparing them to dogs to try and score a political point. Come up with a better analogy. --- staring down the barrel of the hot sun shining with the sheen of a shotgun <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:961156326] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted...</cite> <quote>I don't even like pits but they have a point, unless you don't think people used to call native Americans savages or considered black people more dangerous. There are clear parallels there and you need to stop thinking about it as devaluing minorities by comparing to animals.</quote> No, I'm going to choose not to ignore the demeaning of Black people by comparing them to dogs to try and score a political point. Come up with a better analogy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 12/23/21 1:04:04 PM #98:	Muscles posted... I don't even like pits but they have a point, unless you don't think people used to call native Americans savages or considered black people more dangerous. There are clear parallels there and you need to stop thinking about it as devaluing minorities by comparing to animals. What are the clear parallels between vicious dogs and minority humans? --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:961156367] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>I don't even like pits but they have a point, unless you don't think people used to call native Americans savages or considered black people more dangerous. There are clear parallels there and you need to stop thinking about it as devaluing minorities by comparing to animals.</quote> What are the clear parallels between vicious dogs and minority humans? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 12/23/21 1:14:32 PM #99:	Jen0125 posted... What are the clear parallels between vicious dogs and minority humans? That's not what anyone's suggesting. The position is that there are parallels between breed bans and racism. Specifically, both involve prejudicial discrimination on the basis of something the victimized population has no ability to control. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:961156575] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted... </cite> <quote>What are the clear parallels between vicious dogs and minority humans?</quote> That's not what anyone's suggesting. The position is that there are parallels between breed bans and racism. Specifically, both involve prejudicial discrimination on the basis of something the victimized population has no ability to control. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 12/23/21 1:19:56 PM #100:	adjl posted... That's not what anyone's suggesting. The position is that there are parallels between breed bans and racism. Specifically, both involve prejudicial discrimination on the basis of something the victimized population has no ability to control. And you believe it appropriate to compare the movement to try to ban violent dogs to.. Minorities? Okay. Lol surprising but okay. --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:961156691] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>That's not what anyone's suggesting. The position is that there are parallels between breed bans and racism. Specifically, both involve prejudicial discrimination on the basis of something the victimized population has no ability to control.</quote> And you believe it appropriate to compare the movement to try to ban violent dogs to.. Minorities? Okay. Lol surprising but okay. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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