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McSame_as_Bush 12/23/21 1:22:08 PM #101:	Jen0125 posted... What are the clear parallels between vicious dogs and minority humans? The argument they're going for is prejudicial judgment and they're hoping by insinuating (or flat out saying) that you're a racist, that you'll shut up. It's offensive and disingenuous. --- staring down the barrel of the hot sun shining with the sheen of a shotgun <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:961156730] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>What are the clear parallels between vicious dogs and minority humans? </quote> The argument they're going for is prejudicial judgment and they're hoping by insinuating (or flat out saying) that you're a racist, that you'll shut up. It's offensive and disingenuous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArvTheGreat 12/23/21 1:36:48 PM #102:	bulldogs are dangeroushttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/7/2/AAcpmVAACu3w.jpg --- Things are about to get arvified <cite>ArvTheGreat posted [p:961157027] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>bulldogs are dangeroushttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/7/2/AAcpmVAACu3w.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulbinking 12/23/21 1:42:34 PM #103:	McSame_as_Bush posted... The argument they're going for is prejudicial judgment and they're hoping by insinuating (or flat out saying) that you're a racist, that you'll shut up. It's offensive and disingenuous. Its like clockwork. Lose an argument? Racist (even when talking about dogs) --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings 3DS 5370-0410-4945 <cite>bulbinking posted [p:961157143] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>McSame_as_Bush posted... </cite> <quote>The argument they're going for is prejudicial judgment and they're hoping by insinuating (or flat out saying) that you're a racist, that you'll shut up. It's offensive and disingenuous.</quote> Its like clockwork. Lose an argument? Racist (even when talking about dogs) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 12/23/21 1:49:54 PM #104:	Jen0125 posted... And you believe it appropriate to compare the movement to try to ban violent dogs to.. Minorities? Okay. Lol surprising but okay. More accurately, to compare a movement to try to ban certain dog breeds to a hypothetical movement to try to ban certain minorities. That does not rely on comparing minorities to violent dogs, only on comparing the rationale behind it. However, since you seem to want to make the comparison between dogs and people, let's try it on for size: Pit bulls in the US - ~4.5 million Deaths by pit bulls in the US - ~27 per year (65% of 40 overall dog deaths) Deaths per million pit bulls per year - 6.0 (I'm unreasonably happy this ended up being an integer >.>) White people in the US - ~234.3 million (in 2017) Murders by white people in US - 3011 (in 2018) Murders per million white people in 2018 - 12.9 Black people in the US - 40.6 million (in 2017) Murders by black people in the US - 3177 (in 2018) Murders per million black people in 2018 - 775.3 People of other races in the US - 35.9 million Murders by Other - 207 Murders per million Other in 2018 - 5.8 It would appear that, if we accept the premise that there should be a ban on breeding pit bulls because of how dangerous they are, it would be logically consistent to also have ban on breeding white and black humans, as any given member of either race is significantly more likely to kill somebody than any given pit bull. The "Other" category could stand to be broken down further, but given that its average is so close to that of the pit bulls', I expect this logic would also support banning several of them. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States https://dogbitelaw.com/vicious-dogs/pit-bulls-facts-and-figures --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:961157301] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted... </cite> <quote>And you believe it appropriate to compare the movement to try to ban violent dogs to.. Minorities? Okay. Lol surprising but okay.</quote> More accurately, to compare a movement to try to ban certain dog breeds to a hypothetical movement to try to ban certain minorities. That does not rely on comparing minorities to violent dogs, only on comparing the rationale behind it. However, since you seem to want to make the comparison between dogs and people, let's try it on for size: Pit bulls in the US - ~4.5 million Deaths by pit bulls in the US - ~27 per year (65% of 40 overall dog deaths) Deaths per million pit bulls per year - 6.0 (I'm unreasonably happy this ended up being an integer >.>) White people in the US - ~234.3 million (in 2017) Murders by white people in US - 3011 (in 2018) Murders per million white people in 2018 - 12.9 Black people in the US - 40.6 million (in 2017) Murders by black people in the US - 3177 (in 2018) Murders per million black people in 2018 - 775.3 People of other races in the US - 35.9 million Murders by Other - 207 Murders per million Other in 2018 - 5.8 It would appear that, if we accept the premise that there should be a ban on breeding pit bulls because of how dangerous they are, it would be logically consistent to also have ban on breeding white and black humans, as any given member of either race is significantly more likely to kill somebody than any given pit bull. The "Other" category could stand to be broken down further, but given that its average is so close to that of the pit bulls', I expect this logic would also support banning several of them. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States https://dogbitelaw.com/vicious-dogs/pit-bulls-facts-and-figures </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 12/23/21 2:02:26 PM #105:	adjl posted... However, since you seem to want to make the comparison between dogs and people, Oh yeah, I'm the one that did it. Disingenuous lmao Good job comparing black people to animals. I'm sure it feels good for you, weirdo. --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:961157605] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>However, since you seem to want to make the comparison between dogs and people,</quote> Oh yeah, I'm the one that did it. Disingenuous lmao Good job comparing black people to animals. I'm sure it feels good for you, weirdo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 12/23/21 2:08:47 PM #106:	adjl posted... More accurately, to compare a movement to try to ban certain dog breeds to a hypothetical movement to try to ban certain minorities. That does not rely on comparing minorities to violent dogs, only on comparing the rationale behind it. However, since you seem to want to make the comparison between dogs and people, let's try it on for size: Pit bulls in the US - ~4.5 million Deaths by pit bulls in the US - ~27 per year (65% of 40 overall dog deaths) Deaths per million pit bulls per year - 6.0 (I'm unreasonably happy this ended up being an integer >.>) White people in the US - ~234.3 million (in 2017) Murders by white people in US - 3011 (in 2018) Murders per million white people in 2018 - 12.9 Black people in the US - 40.6 million (in 2017) Murders by black people in the US - 3177 (in 2018) Murders per million black people in 2018 - 775.3 People of other races in the US - 35.9 million Murders by Other - 207 Murders per million Other in 2018 - 5.8 It would appear that, if we accept the premise that there should be a ban on breeding pit bulls because of how dangerous they are, it would be logically consistent to also have ban on breeding white and black humans, as any given member of either race is significantly more likely to kill somebody than any given pit bull. The "Other" category could stand to be broken down further, but given that its average is so close to that of the pit bulls', I expect this logic would also support banning several of them. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States https://dogbitelaw.com/vicious-dogs/pit-bulls-facts-and-figures Pit bulls murder thousands of dogs and cats every year. Are Black people innately more dangerous than other races the way pit bulls are? --- staring down the barrel of the hot sun shining with the sheen of a shotgun <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:961157744] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>More accurately, to compare a movement to try to ban certain dog breeds to a hypothetical movement to try to ban certain minorities. That does not rely on comparing minorities to violent dogs, only on comparing the rationale behind it. However, since you seem to want to make the comparison between dogs and people, let's try it on for size: Pit bulls in the US - ~4.5 million Deaths by pit bulls in the US - ~27 per year (65% of 40 overall dog deaths) Deaths per million pit bulls per year - 6.0 (I'm unreasonably happy this ended up being an integer >.>) White people in the US - ~234.3 million (in 2017) Murders by white people in US - 3011 (in 2018) Murders per million white people in 2018 - 12.9 Black people in the US - 40.6 million (in 2017) Murders by black people in the US - 3177 (in 2018) Murders per million black people in 2018 - 775.3 People of other races in the US - 35.9 million Murders by Other - 207 Murders per million Other in 2018 - 5.8 It would appear that, if we accept the premise that there should be a ban on breeding pit bulls because of how dangerous they are, it would be logically consistent to also have ban on breeding white and black humans, as any given member of either race is significantly more likely to kill somebody than any given pit bull. The "Other" category could stand to be broken down further, but given that its average is so close to that of the pit bulls', I expect this logic would also support banning several of them. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States https://dogbitelaw.com/vicious-dogs/pit-bulls-facts-and-figures </quote> Pit bulls murder thousands of dogs and cats every year. Are Black people innately more dangerous than other races the way pit bulls are?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 12/23/21 2:24:53 PM #107:	Jen0125 posted... Oh yeah, I'm the one that did it. I mean, I explicitly told you that I wasn't making that comparison, but you insisted that I was. How else should I interpret that except to believe that you wanted me to make it? Jen0125 posted... Good job comparing black people to animals. I'm sure it feels good for you, weirdo. I compared people of all races to animals. Why are you singling out black people? McSame_as_Bush posted... Are Black people innately more dangerous than other races the way pit bulls are? Taken in a vacuum, that is what the statistics would suggest. Of course, a little bit of common sense will tell us that that's not something inherent to their race, but rather reflects a wide range of social, economic, geographic, and other factors that are simply correlated with their race. Control for those other factors, and I wouldn't expect that any randomly selected black person is more likely to commit murder than any randomly selected person of any other race. Similarly, remove the abuse/mistreatment piece, and there's no more reason to expect pit bulls to be aggressive than to expect other dogs to be aggressive (which is to say, none at all, since aggression in dogs is very much a product of their treatment). --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:961158105] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted... </cite> <quote>Oh yeah, I'm the one that did it.</quote> I mean, I explicitly told you that I wasn't making that comparison, but you insisted that I was. How else should I interpret that except to believe that you wanted me to make it? Jen0125 posted... </cite> <quote>Good job comparing black people to animals. I'm sure it feels good for you, weirdo.</quote> I compared people of all races to animals. Why are you singling out black people? McSame_as_Bush posted... </cite> <quote>Are Black people innately more dangerous than other races the way pit bulls are?</quote> Taken in a vacuum, that is what the statistics would suggest. Of course, a little bit of common sense will tell us that that's not something inherent to their race, but rather reflects a wide range of social, economic, geographic, and other factors that are simply correlated with their race. Control for those other factors, and I wouldn't expect that any randomly selected black person is more likely to commit murder than any randomly selected person of any other race. Similarly, remove the abuse/mistreatment piece, and there's no more reason to expect pit bulls to be aggressive than to expect other dogs to be aggressive (which is to say, none at all, since aggression in dogs is very much a product of their treatment). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 12/23/21 2:40:23 PM #108:	McSame_as_Bush posted... Pit bulls murder thousands of dogs and cats every year. Are Black people innately more dangerous than other races the way pit bulls are? Of course black people aren't more dangerous than other races, just like pit bulls aren't more dangerous than other breeds because the statics don't show the whole story, why is this so hard to grasp? --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:961158494] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>McSame_as_Bush posted... </cite> <quote>Pit bulls murder thousands of dogs and cats every year. Are Black people innately more dangerous than other races the way pit bulls are?</quote>Of course black people aren't more dangerous than other races, just like pit bulls aren't more dangerous than other breeds because the statics don't show the whole story, why is this so hard to grasp? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dioxxys 12/23/21 3:07:18 PM #109:	adjl posted... More accurately, to compare a movement to try to ban certain dog breeds to a hypothetical movement to try to ban certain minorities. That does not rely on comparing minorities to violent dogs, only on comparing the rationale behind it. It would appear that, if we accept the premise that there should be a ban on breeding pit bulls because of how dangerous they are, it would be logically consistent to also have ban on breeding white and black humans, as any given member of either race is significantly more likely to kill somebody than any given pit bull. The "Other" category could stand to be broken down further, but given that its average is so close to that of the pit bulls', I expect this logic would also support banning several of them. https://youtu.be/fXLicO0CRvk?t=11 Oh no no no no Why Adjl But seriously ban pitbulls, or make people get a special license proving they can handle them. <cite>dioxxys posted [p:961159054] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>More accurately, to compare a movement to try to ban certain dog breeds to a hypothetical movement to try to ban certain minorities. That does not rely on comparing minorities to violent dogs, only on comparing the rationale behind it. It would appear that, if we accept the premise that there should be a ban on breeding pit bulls because of how dangerous they are, it would be logically consistent to also have ban on breeding white and black humans, as any given member of either race is significantly more likely to kill somebody than any given pit bull. The "Other" category could stand to be broken down further, but given that its average is so close to that of the pit bulls', I expect this logic would also support banning several of them. </quote>https://youtu.be/fXLicO0CRvk?t=11 Oh no no no no Why Adjl But seriously ban pitbulls, or make people get a special license proving they can handle them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 12/23/21 4:01:21 PM #110:	I can't lmao good luck --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:961160335] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>I can't lmao good luck </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 12/23/21 6:54:16 PM #111:	Muscles posted... Of course black people aren't more dangerous than other races, just like pit bulls aren't more dangerous than other breeds because the statics don't show the whole story, why is this so hard to grasp? Pit bulls are more dangerous tho. I'm sure you wouldn't disagree that dogs can vary widely from one breed to another. Personality, skills, intelligence, etc. We have dogs that weigh two pounds and dogs that weight 200 pounds. So looking at that huge diversity, why on earth would you think that predisposition to violence is a trait that somehow isn't more present in some breeds than others? That they're all equal or near equal? That's absurd. I don't blame pit bulls for being how they are. People made them that way. They're decedents of a breed specifically bred for fighting other dogs, or bulls, or bears, or whatever animal that garbage 19th century people thought would be entertaining to watch kill or be killed. --- staring down the barrel of the hot sun shining with the sheen of a shotgun <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:961164255] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted...</cite> <quote>Of course black people aren't more dangerous than other races, just like pit bulls aren't more dangerous than other breeds because the statics don't show the whole story, why is this so hard to grasp? </quote> Pit bulls are more dangerous tho. I'm sure you wouldn't disagree that dogs can vary widely from one breed to another. Personality, skills, intelligence, etc. We have dogs that weigh two pounds and dogs that weight 200 pounds. So looking at that huge diversity, why on earth would you think that predisposition to violence is a trait that somehow isn't more present in some breeds than others? That they're all equal or near equal? That's absurd. I don't blame pit bulls for being how they are. People made them that way. They're decedents of a breed specifically bred for fighting other dogs, or bulls, or bears, or whatever animal that garbage 19th century people thought would be entertaining to watch kill or be killed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulbinking 12/23/21 6:55:43 PM #112:	adjl posted... It would appear that, if we accept the premise that there should be a ban on breeding pit bulls because of how dangerous they are, it would be logically consistent to also have ban on breeding white and black humans, as any given member of either race is significantly more likely to kill somebody than any given pit bull. Okay I know dog people are insane but the biggest issue with you argument is despite what many fanatics believe dogs are NOT people. They are animals no different than the cows in your burger or the birds waking you up in the morning. The world will not suffer for more regulations on pitbulls. Theres plenty of other dogs to pick from and no socioeconomic issues that would arise from it. --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings 3DS 5370-0410-4945 <cite>bulbinking posted [p:961164296] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>It would appear that, if we accept the premise that there should be a ban on breeding pit bulls because of how dangerous they are, it would be logically consistent to also have ban on breeding white and black humans, as any given member of either race is significantly more likely to kill somebody than any given pit bull.</quote> Okay I know dog people are insane but the biggest issue with you argument is despite what many fanatics believe dogs are NOT people. They are animals no different than the cows in your burger or the birds waking you up in the morning. The world will not suffer for more regulations on pitbulls. Theres plenty of other dogs to pick from and no socioeconomic issues that would arise from it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 12/23/21 7:09:56 PM #113:	bulbinking posted... Okay I know dog people are insane but the biggest issue with you argument is despite what many fanatics believe dogs are NOT people. Your average dog is better than your average person. --- staring down the barrel of the hot sun shining with the sheen of a shotgun <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:961164645] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>bulbinking posted...</cite> <quote>Okay I know dog people are insane but the biggest issue with you argument is despite what many fanatics believe dogs are NOT people. </quote> Your average dog is better than your average person.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 12/23/21 7:32:05 PM #114:	dioxxys posted... or make people get a special license proving they can handle them. This, I can get behind (as well as for any other breed that has considerable potential for harm). With responsible owners, there's no problem. Ensure all of their owners are responsible, and the problem is solved. I'm also a big fan of the idea of charging dog owners with any violent crimes their dogs commit. Include provisions for qualified rescuers that did everything they should have but their rescue dog still ended up hurting someone due to circumstances beyond the owner's control, but otherwise, make sure "we've destroyed the dog" isn't the end of it. Anyone that trains a dog in a way that causes it to kill somebody else should be in jail for murder, or at least manslaughter. McSame_as_Bush posted... So looking at that huge diversity, why on earth would you think that predisposition to violence is a trait that somehow isn't more present in some breeds than others? That they're all equal or near equal? That's absurd. If treated properly, no dog has a predisposition to violence. Violent behaviour is a product of mistreatment. It's easier to mistreat a pit bull to the point where aggression becomes an issue than it is for many other breeds, and their strength means that becomes a problem very quickly, but the root cause is still that mistreatment, so that's what really needs to be prevented. At the end of the day, even if every dog breed that has any potential to harm somebody else is banned, those people will still be abusing dogs, and that's not okay. bulbinking posted... Okay I know dog people are insane but the biggest issue with you argument is despite what many fanatics believe digs are NOT people. Who said they need to be people? I'm just comparing how dangerous they are, and apparently you're considerably more likely to be killed by a randomly selected human than by a randomly selected pit bull. If anything, that just highlights how small the risk actually is. People's impression of it just gets inflated by the selection bias that afflicts reports on the matter. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:961165160] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>dioxxys posted... </cite> <quote>or make people get a special license proving they can handle them.</quote> This, I can get behind (as well as for any other breed that has considerable potential for harm). With responsible owners, there's no problem. Ensure all of their owners are responsible, and the problem is solved. I'm also a big fan of the idea of charging dog owners with any violent crimes their dogs commit. Include provisions for qualified rescuers that did everything they should have but their rescue dog still ended up hurting someone due to circumstances beyond the owner's control, but otherwise, make sure "we've destroyed the dog" isn't the end of it. Anyone that trains a dog in a way that causes it to kill somebody else should be in jail for murder, or at least manslaughter. McSame_as_Bush posted... </cite> <quote>So looking at that huge diversity, why on earth would you think that predisposition to violence is a trait that somehow isn't more present in some breeds than others? That they're all equal or near equal? That's absurd.</quote> If treated properly, no dog has a predisposition to violence. Violent behaviour is a product of mistreatment. It's easier to mistreat a pit bull to the point where aggression becomes an issue than it is for many other breeds, and their strength means that becomes a problem very quickly, but the root cause is still that mistreatment, so that's what really needs to be prevented. At the end of the day, even if every dog breed that has any potential to harm somebody else is banned, those people will still be abusing dogs, and that's not okay. bulbinking posted... </cite> <quote>Okay I know dog people are insane but the biggest issue with you argument is despite what many fanatics believe digs are NOT people.</quote> Who said they need to be people? I'm just comparing how dangerous they are, and apparently you're considerably more likely to be killed by a randomly selected human than by a randomly selected pit bull. If anything, that just highlights how small the risk actually is. People's impression of it just gets inflated by the selection bias that afflicts reports on the matter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulbinking 12/23/21 8:27:27 PM #115:	adjl posted... If treated properly, no dog has a predisposition to violence. This is literally the opposite. Dogs were bred to have specific predispositions. Just because modern western pet lifestyles try to suppress this or dont capitalize on breeds special skills does not mean their genetic code turns off and never presets itself when the animal runs into a trigger event for its instincts. When it happens with pitbulls something usually dies or is severely maimed. Responsible owners know this and make sure to train pitbulls to not act on instinct while also making sure they avoid situations that trigger their instincts and give proper outlets for them to engage in their instincts. Much like people who own vipers dont wave their hands in the snakes face or people who feed snapping turtles with tongs. Its idiots who act like pitbulls are like any other dog and completely safe if they arent abused are the ones who get people maimed or worse. --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings 3DS 5370-0410-4945 <cite>bulbinking posted [p:961166424] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>If treated properly, no dog has a predisposition to violence.</quote> This is literally the opposite. Dogs were bred to have specific predispositions. Just because modern western pet lifestyles try to suppress this or dont capitalize on breeds special skills does not mean their genetic code turns off and never presets itself when the animal runs into a trigger event for its instincts. When it happens with pitbulls something usually dies or is severely maimed. Responsible owners know this and make sure to train pitbulls to not act on instinct while also making sure they avoid situations that trigger their instincts and give proper outlets for them to engage in their instincts. Much like people who own vipers dont wave their hands in the snakes face or people who feed snapping turtles with tongs. Its idiots who act like pitbulls are like any other dog and completely safe if they arent abused are the ones who get people maimed or worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 12/23/21 8:58:51 PM #116:	adjl posted... If treated properly, no dog has a predisposition to violence. Violent behaviour is a product of mistreatment. It's easier to mistreat a pit bull to the point where aggression becomes an issue than it is for many other breeds, and their strength means that becomes a problem very quickly, but the root cause is still that mistreatment, so that's what really needs to be prevented. At the end of the day, even if every dog breed that has any potential to harm somebody else is banned, those people will still be abusing dogs, and that's not okay. The woman in this story who was murdered by her own dog loved the thing. The dog was triggered by a sound. --- staring down the barrel of the hot sun shining with the sheen of a shotgun <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:961167217] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>If treated properly, no dog has a predisposition to violence. Violent behaviour is a product of mistreatment. It's easier to mistreat a pit bull to the point where aggression becomes an issue than it is for many other breeds, and their strength means that becomes a problem very quickly, but the root cause is still that mistreatment, so that's what really needs to be prevented. At the end of the day, even if every dog breed that has any potential to harm somebody else is banned, those people will still be abusing dogs, and that's not okay.</quote> The woman in this story who was murdered by her own dog loved the thing. The dog was triggered by a sound.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 12/24/21 10:23:31 AM #117:	McSame_as_Bush posted... What's up with pit people constantly making the comparison between racism and not liking their dangerous dog? Equating minorities to a dog breed is offensive. Mario2000 is a troll that posts random shit he almost never means. For the rare times he actually does mean it he's always 100% wrong. McSame_as_Bush posted... Pit bulls murder thousands of dogs and cats every year. Literally impossible. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:961178198] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>McSame_as_Bush posted...</cite> <quote> What's up with pit people constantly making the comparison between racism and not liking their dangerous dog? Equating minorities to a dog breed is offensive.</quote> Mario2000 is a troll that posts random shit he almost never means. For the rare times he actually does mean it he's always 100% wrong. McSame_as_Bush posted...</cite> <quote>Pit bulls murder thousands of dogs and cats every year. </quote> Literally impossible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 12/24/21 1:39:07 PM #118:	According to the police report, the Dec. 8 incident was not the first time the family's dog had shown signs of aggression, but Shannon said Heather had a fondness for animals and couldn't toss the pet aside. My sister has the biggest heart for animals and just couldn't get rid of it ... her heart was too big and they thought they could fix him, Shannon said. A local veterinary clinic told police the dog was up to date on its shots and did not have any known health issues. https://www.wausaudailyherald.com/story/news/2021/12/17/pit-bull-attack-wisconsin-woman- dies-saving-son-dog-attack-bowler-family-calls-her-hero/8918838002/ @adjl --- staring down the barrel of the hot sun shining with the sheen of a shotgun <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:961182180] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote><quote>According to the police report, the Dec. 8 incident was not the first time the family's dog had shown signs of aggression, but Shannon said Heather had a fondness for animals and couldn't toss the pet aside. My sister has the biggest heart for animals and just couldn't get rid of it ... her heart was too big and they thought they could fix him, Shannon said. A local veterinary clinic told police the dog was up to date on its shots and did not have any known health issues.</quote> https://www.wausaudailyherald.com/story/news/2021/12/17/pit-bull-attack-wisconsin-woman- dies-saving-son-dog-attack-bowler-family-calls-her-hero/8918838002/ @adjl</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 12/24/21 11:30:58 PM #119:	McSame_as_Bush posted... The woman in this story who was murdered by her own dog loved the thing. Loving a dog doesn't necessarily mean treating it properly to avoid promoting aggressive tendencies, or training out any that have been instilled in it. This is a case where ignorance can be just as dangerous as malice. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:961194709] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>McSame_as_Bush posted... </cite> <quote>The woman in this story who was murdered by her own dog loved the thing.</quote> Loving a dog doesn't necessarily mean treating it properly to avoid promoting aggressive tendencies, or training out any that have been instilled in it. This is a case where ignorance can be just as dangerous as malice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 12/24/21 11:32:56 PM #120:	adjl posted... I'm just comparing how dangerous they are, and apparently you're considerably more likely to be killed by a randomly selected human than by a randomly selected pit bull This is probably true per capita but there are definitely far more humans than there are pit bulls <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:961194746] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>I'm just comparing how dangerous they are, and apparently you're considerably more likely to be killed by a randomly selected human than by a randomly selected pit bull</quote>This is probably true per capita but there are definitely far more humans than there are pit bulls </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 12/24/21 11:35:48 PM #121:	adjl posted... Deaths per million pit bulls per year - 6.0 (I'm unreasonably happy this ended up being an integer >.>) Imagine being the mom of the kid who got mauled just to beat the 5.9 barrier --- http://i.imgur.com/1XbPahR.png <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:961194799] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>Deaths per million pit bulls per year - 6.0 (I'm unreasonably happy this ended up being an integer >.>)</quote>Imagine being the mom of the kid who got mauled just to beat the 5.9 barrier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
James xeno 12/24/21 11:41:31 PM #122:	RIP... :'( It had a history?! Sounds like they waited a little too long to put that round in its head. --- http://imgur.com/a/s2O4b Koto and Juri and Ruka oh my! <cite>James xeno posted [p:961194901] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>RIP... :'( It had a history?! Sounds like they waited a little too long to put that round in its head.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 12/24/21 11:52:21 PM #123:	OhhhJa posted... This is probably true per capita but there are definitely far more humans than there are pit bulls It is true per capita. I broke down the statistics back on page 2. Blightzkrieg posted... Imagine being the mom of the kid who got mauled just to beat the 5.9 barrier "I'm sad that my kid's dead, but at least it's a round number now." --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:961195055] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>This is probably true per capita but there are definitely far more humans than there are pit bulls</quote> It is true per capita. I broke down the statistics back on page 2. Blightzkrieg posted... </cite> <quote>Imagine being the mom of the kid who got mauled just to beat the 5.9 barrier</quote> "I'm sad that my kid's dead, but at least it's a round number now." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gaawa_chan 12/25/21 12:45:43 AM #124:	I used to quite like dogs until 3 retrievers tried to kill me and my younger sibling. Gotta admit it that sprinting down a 1/4 pothole-filled road carrying a toddler while dogs try to murder you rather sours one's ability to enjoy the company of dogs altogether. --- Hi <cite>Gaawa_chan posted [p:961195938] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>I used to quite like dogs until 3 retrievers tried to kill me and my younger sibling. Gotta admit it that sprinting down a 1/4 pothole-filled road carrying a toddler while dogs try to murder you rather sours one's ability to enjoy the company of dogs altogether. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 12/25/21 2:13:41 AM #125:	bulbinking posted... This is literally the opposite. Dogs were bred to have specific predispositions. Just because modern western pet lifestyles try to suppress this or dont capitalize on breeds special skills does not mean their genetic code turns off and never presets itself when the animal runs into a trigger event for its instincts. When it happens with pitbulls something usually dies or is severely maimed. Yeah, adjl's claim is mindbogglingly factually inaccurate. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:961196979] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>bulbinking posted... </cite> <quote>This is literally the opposite. Dogs were bred to have specific predispositions. Just because modern western pet lifestyles try to suppress this or dont capitalize on breeds special skills does not mean their genetic code turns off and never presets itself when the animal runs into a trigger event for its instincts. When it happens with pitbulls something usually dies or is severely maimed.</quote> Yeah, adjl's claim is mindbogglingly factually inaccurate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 12/25/21 3:05:20 AM #126:	adjl posted... Loving a dog doesn't necessarily mean treating it properly to avoid promoting aggressive tendencies, or training out any that have been instilled in it. This is a case where ignorance can be just as dangerous as malice. Yes, perhaps she could've done more to keep the pitbull's predisposition for aggression contained. It's difficult though, because even the most well trained pitbulls can be triggered by a seemingly innocuous event and immediately enter kill or be killed mode. My high school friend owned a pitbull. He also owned a cat. They seemed to get along well enough and he was always posting cute photos of the two of them together. And then one day the pitbull killed the cat. Nobody knows why. Maybe it meowed too loudly. --- staring down the barrel of the hot sun shining with the sheen of a shotgun <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:961197457] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>Loving a dog doesn't necessarily mean treating it properly to avoid promoting aggressive tendencies, or training out any that have been instilled in it. This is a case where ignorance can be just as dangerous as malice.</quote> Yes, perhaps she could've done more to keep the pitbull's predisposition for aggression contained. It's difficult though, because even the most well trained pitbulls can be triggered by a seemingly innocuous event and immediately enter kill or be killed mode. My high school friend owned a pitbull. He also owned a cat. They seemed to get along well enough and he was always posting cute photos of the two of them together. And then one day the pitbull killed the cat. Nobody knows why. Maybe it meowed too loudly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 12/27/21 1:10:56 PM #127:	Five year old killed on Christmas Eve. https://7news.com.au/news/dog-attack/little-boy-manny-pictured-after-christmas-eve-dog-attack-on-gold-coast-c-5097114 --- staring down the barrel of the hot sun shining with the sheen of a shotgun <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:961252529] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Five year old killed on Christmas Eve. https://7news.com.au/news/dog-attack/little-boy-manny-pictured-after-christmas-eve-dog-attack-on-gold-coast-c-5097114</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EvilMegas 12/27/21 3:51:08 PM #128:	McSame_as_Bush posted... Five year old killed on Christmas Eve. https://7news.com.au/news/dog-attack/little-boy-manny-pictured-after-christmas-eve-dog-attack-on-gold-coast-c-5097114 That's not even a pitbull lol --- The first person to be fully vaccinated on GameFaQs. Boobs are life, ass is hometown Kenichiro Takaki. <cite>EvilMegas posted [p:961256491] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>McSame_as_Bush posted... </cite> <quote>Five year old killed on Christmas Eve. https://7news.com.au/news/dog-attack/little-boy-manny-pictured-after-christmas-eve-dog-attack-on-gold-coast-c-5097114</quote>That's not even a pitbull lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 12/27/21 4:09:19 PM #129:	Yes it is. --- staring down the barrel of the hot sun shining with the sheen of a shotgun <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:961256956] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Yes it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 12/27/21 4:17:58 PM #130:	EvilMegas posted... That's not even a pitbull lol Yes it is. My parents have three Yorkshire Terriers that are also pit bulls. <cite>Cacciato posted [p:961257169] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>EvilMegas posted... </cite> <quote>That's not even a pitbull lol</quote>Yes it is. My parents have three Yorkshire Terriers that are also pit bulls. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EvilMegas 12/27/21 4:21:42 PM #131:	Oh I didn't see the bull terrier, just terrier cross. Lol --- The first person to be fully vaccinated on GameFaQs. Boobs are life, ass is hometown Kenichiro Takaki. <cite>EvilMegas posted [p:961257239] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Oh I didn't see the bull terrier, just terrier cross. Lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 12/27/21 5:22:05 PM #132:	Basically at this point when someones been attacked by a pit bull it couldve been a: Bull Terrier American Pit Bull Terrier American Staffordshire Terrier Staffordshire Bull Terrier American Bully American Bulldog Damn. No wonder theyre so good at putting up numbers. <cite>Cacciato posted [p:961258678] in 35 y/o Wis... [t:79819421]...</cite> <quote>Basically at this point when someones been attacked by a pit bull it couldve been a: Bull TerrierAmerican Pit Bull TerrierAmerican Staffordshire TerrierStaffordshire Bull TerrierAmerican BullyAmerican BulldogDamn. No wonder theyre so good at putting up numbers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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