Poll of the Day > Is there a hobby you wish was move accessible?

(+) Yeah! (+)

Rather it be cost, place to do it, etc.

If so, what is it?

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Did you have something in mind?

I think most of my hobbies are rather easy to move

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I've always wanted to try Warhammer, but I heard that it costs like a thousand dollars just to get a shitty army.
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lihlih posted...

I've always wanted to try Warhammer, but I heard that it costs like a thousand dollars just to get a shitty army.

Rule books and and a decent army is about 700-900 bucks.

Metalsonic66 posted...

Did you have something in mind?

I think most of my hobbies are rather easy to move

War hammer is one, Model RC planes is a good one since most people can't afford it or have a place to fly.

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hypnox posted...

War hammer is one, Model RC planes is a good one since most people can't afford it or have a place to fly.

Not as common anymore, but when my dad was into RC planes there used to be tons of parks around where you could fly them. Basically take a tag with a number on it, put it on your receiver and plane, and fly as much as you wanted.

I think most of those places are disc golf courses now.

Anyways, I always wanted to get into off-road driving. But even the introductory cost for that is like $5000 and requires you to do all your own mechanic work.

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Basically any hobby that requires me to go somewhere to participate as I live... in the middle of nowhere.

Dikitain posted...

Not as common anymore, but when my dad was into RC planes there used to be tons of parks around where you could fly them. Basically take a tag with a number on it, put it on your receiver and plane, and fly as much as you wanted.

I have a coworker that flies his drone all over the place. I'm guessing that's a legal grey area due to the whole fact that drones can record video.

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indoor rock climbing

seems fun but off-putting in the way you need to go to a specific location for it and are probably going to be excluded as a noob by the people already into it

ReggieTheReckless posted...

indoor rock climbing

seems fun but off-putting in the way you need to go to a specific location for it and are probably going to be excluded as a noob by the people already into it

Don't be so quick to assume this. I can't speak to the conditions and people at every gym as I've only been a few times myself, but I was brought to a rock climbing gym by a coworker and everyone I met was very enthusiastic about having a new climber in the gym and they were very supportive and encouraging

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I suppose all my books and comics would be a pain to move

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Far-Queue posted...

Don't be so quick to assume this. I can't speak to the conditions and people at every gym as I've only been a few times myself, but I was brought to a rock climbing gym by a coworker and everyone I met was very enthusiastic about having a new climber in the gym and they were very supportive and encouraging

k. I guess my experiences with that sort of exclusion are based on trying to skateboard/attend skatepark as a teen, so not a very fair judgment for anything else, ha

Nah dude I get it, I hate that feeling of being the new kid on the block, too. Just gotta throw yourself out there and experience it sometimes, though. Sometimes you get surprised and people are pretty cool. Other times not lol

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Warhammer 40k

It's expensive and I have to paint

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I wish I could buy a decent looking fursuit that isn't 1500-2000$.

Far-Queue posted...

Don't be so quick to assume this. I can't speak to the conditions and people at every gym as I've only been a few times myself, but I was brought to a rock climbing gym by a coworker and everyone I met was very enthusiastic about having a new climber in the gym and they were very supportive and encouraging

Yeah, I used to rock climb when I was younger with one of my siblings, no one gives a shit lol.

JOExHIGASHI posted...

Warhammer 40k

It's expensive and I have to paint

Kind of why I want to get into Battletech. They are fine with you using cardboard tokens for your army, or you can use miniatures. Even if you get into the miniatures, they are way less then Warhammer 40K (~$25 for a lance, less then $100 for a full company).

Downside is it doesn't have the broad rule-set or customization of Warhammer 40K.

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Dikitain posted...

Kind of why I want to get into Battletech. They are fine with you using cardboard tokens for your army, or you can use miniatures. Even if you get into the miniatures, they are way less then Warhammer 40K (~$25 for a lance, less then $100 for a full company).

Downside is it doesn't have the broad rule-set or customization of Warhammer 40K.

Problem with Battle tech is they don't have all the mechs represented as a model.

A good mini game to look into is one of the Star wars ones. Either Legion or X-Wing. I really like X-wing. Armada is cool too, but you don't have as many ships and they all have dozens of upgrades you pick so theres a lot to keep track of.

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Yeah, fursuits are crazy expensive. $1500-2000? I've seen just the HEADS going for that much (although the head is the most difficult and detailed part of most suits). Some of the top fursuit makers charge $10,000 and up. The most expensive is apparently Rawr Dragon by Zarathus, costing over $23,000! Each scale was individually dyed and crafted by hand.



You can always try to make your own fursuit, the way the cavefurs did back in the 80s. But even then you're looking at several hundred bucks worth of materials and many hours of work.


Or go for a partial, it's a lot cheaper than a full suit. (And not as sweaty)


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I wouldn't mind getting into painting Warhammer stuff but I don't have any interest in the game itself

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Dikitain posted...

Kind of why I want to get into Battletech. They are fine with you using cardboard tokens for your army, or you can use miniatures. Even if you get into the miniatures, they are way less then Warhammer 40K (~$25 for a lance, less then $100 for a full company).

Downside is it doesn't have the broad rule-set or customization of Warhammer 40K.

I mean, if you go with Combined Arms combat, you can add planes, infantry, elementals (basically powersuits), and tanks.

Plus you can adjust the armor, engine, guns, and basically everything in a mech. You want an urbie with a Clan XL engine with enough machine guns to sandblast the biggest clanner lance? That's fine and within the rules.

I get pretty jealous when I watch my husband paint minis. Dont want to play warhammer, but I've tried my hand at painting models a few times. Tremors make it near impossible so I mostly just admire his.

i wish my guitar amp didnt weigh almost 100lbs

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Racing would be fun, imagine being a bit bored so you decide to go race around your local race track. Like go Karting but better.

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captpackrat posted...

Yeah, fursuits are crazy expensive. $1500-2000? I've seen just the HEADS going for that much (although the head is the most difficult and detailed part of most suits). Some of the top fursuit makers charge $10,000 and up. The most expensive is apparently Rawr Dragon by Zarathus, costing over $23,000! Each scale was individually dyed and crafted by hand.



You can always try to make your own fursuit, the way the cavefurs did back in the 80s. But even then you're looking at several hundred bucks worth of materials and many hours of work.


Or go for a partial, it's a lot cheaper than a full suit. (And not as sweaty)

I've thought about partials before but I really want to go all in with a fullsuit, it appeals to me more.

I'd love to take pottery classes, but there just aren't any for like 100 miles, and on top of that, I'd some special help and accommodations. I'd love to get into hand building.

On the subject of getting into Warhammer, I think a lot of focus gets put on the cost and not enough on the amount of time it takes to paint and even build the models. I think that's a far bigger barrier than simply the cost.

The amount of armies that consist of empty bases and weird proxies is kind of depressing.

If anyone is intimidated by the cost/time investment, I'd suggest seeing what other games are big in your area. Star Wars Legion and Crisis Protocol are both big in my city, and are cheaper and require fewer models. But the models don't look as good tbh.

Also while not necessarily a hobby, I'm super bummed by how expensive anime figures have become. A bland 1/8 scale is like twice as expensive or more than it was five years ago. Idk if that comes down to increases demand driving up the price, or the factory workers demanding increased compensation.

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@Notschmendrake
Have you tried medication to help control the tremors? I know not everyone has access to healthcare or can afford prescriptions. And it can be difficult to find a doctor who cares and knows what they are doing (I've been shocked to learn how many things I lived with for years could be controlled).

Or what about maybe doing digital painting or digital sculpting? Every piece of digital art software I've used has had a stabilizer function that you could turn up quite high to smooth the motions of your hand. Prior to getting medications to help me control the side effects of a neurological condition, I focused primarily on 3D art as a hobby because it can remove some or all requirements for dexterity.

I take a fistful of baclofen every day. It's the only thing that does me any good aside from botox injections which come with their own sets of problems.

Money is not the issue. Effective treatment for my immune system attacking my brains is.

And unfortunately no, my tremors are severe beyond the point that any sort of stabilizing hardware or software is not effective. Mouse or paintbrush, they will be flying across the room if I try to use them with any level of precision.

The mini painting is really not really a huge deal for me. More of a passing interest. I can do the vast majority of shit I want to do.

Thanks for the tips though bud. I appreciate the concern and all.

Metalsonic66 posted...

I wouldn't mind getting into painting Warhammer stuff but I don't have any interest in the game itself

I mean you can just buy a couple models you're interested in and get cheaper paint from third party sources.

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Blightzkrieg posted...

If anyone is intimidated by the cost/time investment, I'd suggest seeing what other games are big in your area. Star Wars Legion and Crisis Protocol are both big in my city, and are cheaper and require fewer models. But the models don't look as good tbh.

Warhammer Underworlds USED to be great for a cheaper alternative, but they keep increasing the prices. A starter set that was 60 bucks 3 years ago is 90 bucks now.

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Zareth posted...

I mean you can just buy a couple models you're interested in and get cheaper paint from third party sources.

I recently got into painting Gunpla, so I'm already ahead of the game

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Zareth posted...

Warhammer Underworlds USED to be great for a cheaper alternative, but they keep increasing the prices. A starter set that was 60 bucks 3 years ago is 90 bucks now.

GW has been raking in massive profits and inflates their prices every year. Underworlds is basically a competitive card game, and so keeping up with it even at the best of times can be stupid expensive, unless your group is really casual.

I've heard MTG players on average spend more money than Warhammer players, which sounds wrong to me but I don't know enough about MTG to dispute it.

Regardless, I wouldn't suggest Underworlds if you're looking for a cheap Warhammer alternative. I'd be hesitant to even suggest something like Warcry or Necromunda, because I can only assume GW will continue to inflate prices, though obviously it's still a good starting point.

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Blightzkrieg posted...

GW has been raking in massive profits and inflates their prices every year. Underworlds is basically a competitive card game, and so keeping up with it even at the best of times can be stupid expensive, unless your group is really casual.

I've heard MTG players on average spend more money than Warhammer players, which sounds wrong to me but I don't know enough about MTG to dispute it.

Regardless, I wouldn't suggest Underworlds if you're looking for a cheap Warhammer alternative. I'd be hesitant to even suggest something like Warcry or Necromunda, because I can only assume GW will continue to inflate prices, though obviously it's still a good starting point.

MTG prices depend greatly on the format you play. Like for example, in Legacy, a 4k deck is considered on the cheaper side, while modern decks go for like 500-2k.
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Mountain biking.

Sex dungeons.

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Blightzkrieg posted...

I've heard MTG players on average spend more money than Warhammer players, which sounds wrong to me but I don't know enough about MTG to dispute it.

It depends on the format. Standard decks can be 200-500 dollars but need to be renewed every expansion or year. Modern decks are more expensive but more stable and don't always need too be tweaked largely.

My Modern deck was about 1400 dollars, never needed to add more cards since I made it about 10 years ago. I mean there are some cards I could add if I wanted, but it wouldn't make that much of an improvement.


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I'm thinking of selling off my MTG collection. I started in with Tempest in 97'. Got stuff going back to Alpha-Beta. Not sure where to even get started with it. Don't really have the time to sell stuff off individually, and if I try to sell it all in bulk I'll get a pittance of what it's worth.

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Ozmose posted...

I'm thinking of selling off my MTG collection. I started in with Tempest in 97'. Got stuff going back to Alpha-Beta. Not sure where to even get started with it. Don't really have the time to sell stuff off individually, and if I try to sell it all in bulk I'll get a pittance of what it's worth.

You could probably sell everything worth $5 or more, and that'll be worth your time.

Besides tabletop gaming (cost, lots of prep, lots of learning), I'm going to say caving and urban exploration. Caves have all kinds of accessibility issues -- making them dangerous at times -- and urban exploration is often prevented by physical barriers, cops, building conditions, and potentially dangerous squatters

lihlih posted...

I've always wanted to try Warhammer, but I heard that it costs like a thousand dollars just to get a shitty army.

Literally the first thing to jump to mind, but partly because it comes up a bunch on PotD.

ReggieTheReckless posted...

indoor rock climbing

seems fun but off-putting in the way you need to go to a specific location for it and are probably going to be excluded as a noob by the people already into it

Also a really good one.

ReggieTheReckless posted...

k. I guess my experiences with that sort of exclusion are based on trying to skateboard/attend skatepark as a teen, so not a very fair judgment for anything else, ha

Kids can be so cruel!

Metalsonic66 posted...

I wouldn't mind getting into painting Warhammer stuff but I don't have any interest in the game itself

tbh, that aspect I always found more interesting.

ReturnOfFa posted...

Sex dungeons.

Also a really good one.

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Sensory deprivation. Psychedelics.

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Screwing Women KEK. Or actually I don't think my personality could suit doing it that casually.

Ok real answer is...collecting a real life yugioh card collection


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Zedonra posted...

Ok real answer is...collecting a real life yugioh card collection

I've got a shoebox full of them that you can buy

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Zedonra posted...

Ok real answer is...collecting a real life yugioh card collection

I loved Yugioh back in the day. but now I find it sorta BS. They didn't control the power creep so now they even have pre constructed decks that are one turn wins... And if you have a deck that can't win by turn 2 its a pretty bad deck. At that point why even play a card game. Might as well paper rock scissors.

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I still love classic Yu-Gi-Oh to this day, but I just can't get behind what it is now. You fill the field and rush burn through the game so fast there's no build up.

As far as real life card collecting, I gave up on that quickly enough when I realized how much money it was already costing me and that building a deck that was actually competitive would cost even more. I just stuck to the video games for a while which was cheaper in the long run.

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Drums.

I need a drummer and there are so few of them since the volume they produce is so impractical for most living situations.

And electric kits sound like ass


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DirtBasedSoap posted...

i wish my guitar amp didnt weigh almost 100lbs

My 40W combo is too heavy for me, I dread the day I have to upgrade

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PeterPumpknhead posted...

Sensory deprivation. Psychedelics.

In regards to psychedelics do you mean obtaining them or using them?

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UltraIchi posted...

Drums.

I need a drummer and there are so few of them since the volume they produce is so impractical for most living situations.

And electric kits sound like ass

There are some damn good quality electric drum kits out there nowadays.

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Metalsonic66 posted...

There are some damn good quality electric drum kits out there nowadays.

For practice sure but I'd never wanna record one or play with one live

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UltraIchi posted...

In regards to psychedelics do you mean obtaining them or using them?

both I suppose

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Blightzkrieg posted...

I've heard MTG players on average spend more money than Warhammer players, which sounds wrong to me but I don't know enough about MTG to dispute it.

Depends on how you spend money on MTG, and how you get the money back.

There's big money to be had by buying OFFICALLY SEALED Booster boxes, and selling/trading the cards individually to various game stores.

I used to be hardcore into MTG during the 90s, gave it up once I moved away from my parents and learned how to pay rent and bills. In fact, I sold most of my Alphas, Betas, Fallen Empires, and Arabian Night cards to make rent, lol. The cards I kept were either considered illegal and banned in most formats, and all my 'good cards' were pilfered through when I needed the cash. So I have nothing to make a good deck with anymore, so I basically started from scratch....

Now just recently I decided to get back into MTG, because I found a few old farts my age that still dabble. So instead of buying pre-constructed decks, I just bought a "Set booster box" of the latest set ("Innistrad: Midnight Hunt" when it was the lastest), $150 US; and used that to make my deck. Wound up getting 90% of the whole collection (not including showcase cards). So I sorted through all my doubles, and went back to my local game store to trade and sell, until I got the whole 277 set. And wound up making half the cost of a box back, as I had 5 "Wrenn and Seven" cards, kept 2 for my deck, and sold the other 3 for $25 a pop....

TLDR: MTG isn't as expensive as one might think if you study up on your cards and know how to sell them.


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I'd like to be able to play my drums more often, but my landlord upstairs is the kind of jerk you read about.

UltraIchi posted...

And electric kits sound like ass

For the most part, yeah, unless you get into mesh heads and the kits that cost thousands of bucks. I had a Roland TK4-P I think it was, years ago. Though it pales to a real set, it's way better than nothing at all. Before that time I was using midi drum sounds, so the e-kit was a big step up. You wanna' talk about sounding like ass? Midi piddly drum sounds! There you go!

Plus on the e-kit I had it was missing all kinds of nuance stuff, rim shots, etc etc. But better than nothing, when you don't have another option.

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PeterPumpknhead posted...

both I suppose

There's a research center near me that conducts psilocybin and lsd case trials (particularly for people with mental diagnoses such as bpd). I would see if anything similar exists in your area

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