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Ivalice

If that counts, Sephiroth vs. Vergil Death Battle.

FFIX's AP system

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Bells (weapon)

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The 4 old men who think they are Warriors of Light in FFIII

redrocket posted...

Final Fantasy X

I'm sensing a pattern...

Nominate: Long-ass guardian force summon animations, with proto-QTE's built in

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Ultima (spell)

Persona spell names aren't Japanese btw.
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Mac Arrowny posted...

Persona spell names aren't Japanese btw.

Then what the hell are they?

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it's based on Sanskrit

also Persona spell names are confusing at first but it's pretty easy once you learn what all the prefixes and suffixes mean

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Nobuo Uematsu

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LeonhartFour posted...

it's based on Sanskrit

I did not know this.

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Gogo/Adlai Stevenson

He was brilliant... Perhaps too brilliant...
Final Fantasy (name)
Final Fantasy VII
Aerith dies
Blue Magic
Spheres
8-Bit Theater
Final Fantasy Tactics
Auron
Nobuo Uematsu
Final Fantasy X: The last good one. At least the series went out with a REALLY good one. Having a Southeast Asian setting was an inspired choice after dingy cyberpunk world, clean modern world, and medieval Europe. The tone of the game is perfect, the characters are all good except for Kimahri, and the vistas are great. I would have liked to explore Bevelle some more, but it's okay. This is probably the most cohesive game, and by that I mean the game with the most unironic good in it. Not to say that there's no ironic good, either. I absolutely love the ending of Tidus' soul falling into Heaven and high-fiving his dad. As a concept, having the main character defeat the final boss by finally getting over his daddy issues is wonderful, as is Tidus refusing to let Yuna sacrifice herself, then having to sacrifice himself at the end of the game. And Yuna hesitating to finish the sending when she realizes it'll kill Auron, and him telling her to keep going, is great.
Tifa
Calculator/Mathematician

This is the way
Final Fantasy VI
Spell Suffixes
Summon (Command)
Desperation Attacks
Chocobos
Malboro
Opera Scene
Kilika Sending Scene
Suplexing a Train
Unique Game Logos
Midgar Zolom
Final Fantasy IV
Yuna's Character Growth
Final Fantasy I
Final Fantasy VIII
Aerith vs Tifa
Bravely Default
FFT's Original Translation
Going to the Moon
Final Fantasy V
Squall's Dreams
Weather-themed Names
Official Dressphere Spelling
Job Systems
Gunblade
Stay Away From the Summoner Lady

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Card Games
Blitzball
Chemist (FFV): Was this where it started? The 'class with a million options for completely breaking the game, but that requires so much effort to understand that you'll just look up a guide to plow through it as fast as possible?' Good idea for a class, although I would have called it 'alchemist' instead.
Final Bosses
Ivalice Moogles
Final Fantasy IX
Fourth Wall Gilgamesh
Having a good feeling because this is the way
The Laughing Scene
Turks (organization): I was tempted to make a Young Turks joke, but eh. As a concept, having a recurring group of enemies who aren't really evil, and who all dress in snazzy business suits, is good. But I never understood these guys' popularity. They're barely part of the story, and the only one with a cool design is Reno. I guess it just helps to have human-level opponents to beat up.
Monk
Tidus being an awkward fool
Edea
Gilgamesh
The kid who wants to grow up to be a blitzball
I, Garland, will knock you all down!
FFXIV's Free Trial
Ondore's Lies
Same Orphanage
Evil Empires
This Guy Are Sick
Xenogears
Dancing Mad
Kingdom Hearts (series)
SMFFFC
Ultima: Conceptually a neat idea. I like the idea of the "ultimate" attack magic. But nothing is ever really done with it, and FFII screws up by having it be weaker than normal spells.
Yu Yevon

Whatever
Fellows (FFIII): A competent, but forgettable, joke. They didn't even get their own models.
Final Fantasy Dissidia 1
FF8 Game Over Screen
Gabranth
Frontier Village Dali (song)
Summon Monsters
Split Party Dungeons
Bells (weapon): I never understood bells as a weapon. Looking up the FF wiki, it says they're associated with geomancers because the Japanese job name is "Feng Shui Knight," and bells dispel negative energy. Do they? I always thought of bells as just being loud.
Sabin's WoB Segment
Gogo: The definition of a 'who cares' character. I do like the mime command conceptually, though, it's one of my favorite FF combat ideas.
Terra vs Celes
FF7 Game Over Screen
Costa del Sol condo
Mario Hoops 3-on-3
Wark vs Kweh
Final Fantasy XIV
Ivalice: People talk up Ivalice quite a bit. Here's the hard truth: who cares? I'll admit there are some cool nonhuman races, but that's it. Otherwise, it's a boring setting. It was almost boring by design, since FFT just needed a feudal system run by stuffy priests.
FFVI Glitches
Moogle Charm
Dark Aeons
Cast Size Shrinkage Since IX
FFVII CPR Minigame
Smash Ultimate Sephiroth Reveal
Irvines hat
Moomba
NORG

Dilly dally shilly shally
Tetra Master
Umaro
Hot Dogs
Argath's Name Change
Needlessly Long Summon Animations: Barf. It makes you want to just attack normally, because the battle will end faster. You should be able to skip the animations after the first use.
Ramza's Nose in Dissidia
The differences between playing FFX blitzball and playing FFX-2 blitzball
Final Fantasy XV in a Nutshell
Final Fantasy
The Compilation of Final Fantasy VII
Renaming Characters
FFIX's Battle System: The biggest issue with this system is that the AP meter doesn't stop charging during animations, but animations last a really long time, so functionally, all characters have the same speed, because they'll all get the same number of turns. This is an advantage for slower characters like Steiner and Vivi. But also, the system is just sort of bog standard FF. When I think of the most FF battle system possible, this is what comes to mind instead of FFIV.
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy Dimensions
Racist Wakka
FFXVI Trailer
Sephiroth vs Vergil Death Battle: I watched the whole thing. I don't like Death Battle, and I especially didn't like the two guys arguing with each other instead of just getting to the point. Sixteen minutes before they actually talk about the fight. I don't know what you expect. It's impressive that someone can animate a battle of Vergil and Sephiroth like this, but it's all just sort of lame to me, sorry.

Blame yourself or God
YuRiPa
Square-Enix Merger
Final Fantasy II
Level Grinding
NORA
Prerendered Cutscenes
FFXV's Development Woes
Zidane's Sexual Harassment
FF6 Main Character Arguments
Level Scaling
Theatrhythm/Curtain Call
Feral Chaos
Crazy Chocobo
Shelinda
FFX being the last good one
Characters with names three letters or less
Blue Mage Trailer (FFXIV)
Materia (Dissidia NT)

Hundreds of voices screaming in unison
FFVII/FFX Combined Universe Theory
Lightning Dodging

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I also want to defend the laughing scene in FFX, even though I already talked about it. It makes complete sense in context as Tidus playing the fool to comfort Yuna after all of the other Guardians are too stoic to help.

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That's about where I'd rank Gogo too.

I was actually nominating the troll/conspiracy theory about Gogo being Adlai Stevenson though.

Zidane and Garnets relationship

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FFIX gives Ultima a storyline use, actually.

Nominate Yoshitaka Amano

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Final Fantasy XII

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I have no idea why they decided to bring Ivalice back of all the worlds, it's the most boring one.

Nominate IV constantly rotating its party.

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Climbing the stairs in Shinra building

The series' mixture of Science Fiction and Fantasy

By AP system, I was referring to the way characters learn and equip abilities.

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Ramza Beoulve

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Bells higher than I expected, but ok!

Alexandria (the city)

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Dragoon job

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Vanille because I still insist 13 would've been more interesting with her as main character status.

Also, Saboteur.

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Shadow

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He was brilliant... Perhaps too brilliant...
Final Fantasy (name)
Final Fantasy VII
Aerith dies
Blue Magic
Spheres
8-Bit Theater
Final Fantasy Tactics
Auron
Nobuo Uematsu
Final Fantasy X
Ramza Beoulve: Pretty easily the most complex protagonist. Where everyone else grapples with either mostly internal problems (Cecil, Cloud, Squall), are searching for meaning (Terra, Zidane, Tidus, Lightning), or are just boring (Bartz, Vaan), Ramza is dealing with like societal issues and the morality of class systems.
Tifa
Calculator/Mathematician

This is the way
Final Fantasy VI
Spell Suffixes
Summon (Command)
Desperation Attacks
Chocobos
Malboro
IV's Rotating Party: ****ing genius concept. It makes complete sense that on a super dangerous adventure, you'd keep having party members get injured or killed (even if in the end, only one dies). It gives you characters with an extremely wide variety of different skills and motivations, and then (of course) you end with the characters with the most complex battle abilities. Sorry, Cid, but you were never going to stick around.
Opera Scene
Kilika Sending Scene
Suplexing a Train
Unique Game Logos
Midgar Zolom
Final Fantasy IV
Yuna's Character Growth
Final Fantasy I
Final Fantasy VIII
Aerith vs Tifa
Bravely Default
FFT's Original Translation
Going to the Moon
Final Fantasy V
Squall's Dreams
Weather-themed Names
Official Dressphere Spelling
Job Systems
Gunblade
Stay Away From the Summoner Lady

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Card Games
Dragoon (job): It's interesting. This is an entire job that is just "what if you could jump really high, then fall onto your enemy?" But for whatever reason, it's cool and memorable. Nothing meaningful to say about it, though.
Blitzball
Chemist (FFV)
Final Bosses
Ivalice Moogles
Mixing Sci-fi and Fantasy: This depends on the game, of course. On a spectrum of Fantasy to Sci-Fi, I'd say the games rate as follows: 3-2-5-1-4-9-12-10-6-7-8-13-15. Generally, I do like the 'more sci-fi' games more, I will admit. The real question is if there are any games without ancient super technology buried somewhere. Does 13 have that? I honestly can't remember.
Final Fantasy IX
Fourth Wall Gilgamesh
Having a good feeling because this is the way
The Laughing Scene
Shadow: Shadow is cool, and I like his backstory never explicitly saying he's Relm's father. I also like his dog. He's about the right complexity for a side character in a cast of fourteen. I never really used him that much when playing the game, though. I used him occasionally, but I hate throwing things other than ninja stars.
Turks (organization)
Monk
Edea
Gilgamesh
The kid who wants to grow up to be a blitzball
I, Garland, will knock you all down!
FFXIV's Free Trial
Ondore's Lies
Same Orphanage
Evil Empires
This Guy Are Sick
Xenogears
Dancing Mad
Kingdom Hearts (series)
SMFFFC
Ultima
Shinra Stairs: A very funny alternative method to the intended ascent, and it makes complete sense why Shinra wouldn't have guarded it, because no one is crazy enough to run up seventy flights of stairs. Is this still around in the remake? I hope so.
Final Fantasy XII: Instead of discussing FFXII, I will link this 4chan troll post I once saw. https://pastebin.com/1YcsiC2B
Yu Yevon

Whatever
Fellows (FFIII)
Zidane/Garnet Relationship: Zirnet? Gardane? Gardane is funnier. Anyway, unlike Squall/Rinoa, which the story revolves around, this relationship is just sort of there. It's important in the sense of Zidane and Garnet's character arcs, and I guess you can argue that it's important in helping to bring Zidane fully onto the side of humans, but there are way fewer memorable moments. I think I remember it less than the Cecil/Rosa relationship, even.
Final Fantasy Dissidia 1
FF8 Game Over Screen
Gabranth
Vanille: I barely remember this character, I'm sorry. I played FFXIII a million years ago. Mainly what I remember about her is the scene where she and Fang turn into diamonds, and I only remember that because of an ancient meme about "your lesbians are now diamonds."
Tidus being an awkward fool
Frontier Village Dali (song)
Summon Monsters
Split Party Dungeons
Bells (weapon)
Sabin's WoB Segment
Gogo
Yoshitaka Amano: Oh, this guy. I didn't remember his name, but I do know his art. I'll agree that he has a lot of technical skill, but his style looks nothing like any FF, and half the time you can't tell who's who. I don't know why Square keeps him as the official art guy.
Terra vs Celes
FF7 Game Over Screen
Costa del Sol condo
Mario Hoops 3-on-3
Wark vs Kweh
Final Fantasy XIV
Ivalice
FFVI Glitches
Alexandria (city): Uh... no real opinions? It's just a standard medieval city, it doesn't even have the steampunk elements of Lindblum.
Moogle Charm
Dark Aeons
Gogo as Adlai Stevenson Theory: This sort of verges on randumb humor. I mean, yes, mocking Gogo identity theories makes sense, but this is just whatever. It did lead me to look up Adlai Stevenson as a kid, thuogh, and then when a science teacher asked if anyone had ever heard of him and I told him what I knew, he was impressed.
Cast Size Shrinkage Since IX
FFVII CPR Minigame
Smash Ultimate Sephiroth Reveal
Irvines hat
Moomba
NORG

Dilly dally shilly shally
Tetra Master
Umaro
Hot Dogs
Argath's Name Change
Needlessly Long Summon Animations
Ramza's Nose in Dissidia
The differences between playing FFX blitzball and playing FFX-2 blitzball
Final Fantasy XV in a Nutshell
Final Fantasy
The Compilation of Final Fantasy VII
Renaming Characters
FFIX's Battle System
Final Fantasy III
FFIX Ability Learning: Hated it. It's not the worst level-up mechanic in the world, but it incentivizes you to constantly equip crappy weapons past the point where they're useful. I know that's the point, but in the end it just lengthens the game.
Final Fantasy Dimensions
Racist Wakka
FFXVI Trailer
Sephiroth vs Vergil Death Battle

Blame yourself or God
YuRiPa
Square-Enix Merger
Final Fantasy II
Level Grinding
NORA
Prerendered Cutscenes
FFXV's Development Woes
Zidane's Sexual Harassment
FF6 Main Character Arguments
Level Scaling
Theatrhythm/Curtain Call
Feral Chaos
Crazy Chocobo
Shelinda
FFX being the last good one
Characters with names three letters or less
Blue Mage Trailer (FFXIV)
Materia (Dissidia NT)

Hundreds of voices screaming in unison
FFVII/FFX Combined Universe Theory
Lightning Dodging

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One Winged Angel

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You can indeed still take the stairs in Remake and it's still glorious

Slots as a skill/Limit Break

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Tidus/Yuna relationship

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Final Fantasy XIII

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Godbert Manderville

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Crystals

Lightning punching Snow in the face two times in a row.

Spoony Bard

The spell incantations in FFT

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ATB

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Wait, which party member in FF4 dies?
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KingButz posted...

Wait, which party member in FF4 dies?

Tellah

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Oh yeah. My mind was only going to all the fake-outs that I missed the super unambiguous death.
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Galuf's Last Stand

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He was brilliant... Perhaps too brilliant...
Final Fantasy (name)
Final Fantasy VII
Aerith dies
Blue Magic
Spheres
8-Bit Theater
Final Fantasy Tactics
Auron
Nobuo Uematsu
Final Fantasy X
Ramza Beoulve
Tifa
Calculator/Mathematician

This is the way
Final Fantasy VI
Spell Suffixes
Summon (Command)
Desperation Attacks
Chocobos
Malboro
IV's Rotating Party
Opera Scene
Kilika Sending Scene
Suplexing a Train
Galuf's Last Stand: The only memorable plot thing in FFV (sorry, spinning turtle attack fans). Galuf filling himself with the power of love to counter ExDeath is so good. Fighting on at zero HP to represent going beyond your physical limits is a great way to mix gameplay and story.
Unique Game Logos
Crystals: Fun fact, I was playing a tabletop game once, and we went into a cave full of crystals. I asked if they had any magical properties, and the GM just got annoyed and said "these are normal crystals, not Final Fantasy crystals," and everyone laughed at me. What is it with crystals and magic? Because FF did not invent that. Is it just that they look cool? Because crabs are cool, but I've never seen a game feature magical crabs as a major plot point.
Midgar Zolom
Final Fantasy IV
Yuna's Character Growth
Final Fantasy I
Final Fantasy VIII
Slots (skill/limit break): A cool concept, but I never use them. You can never rely on them, and even when I did give them a shot, I always found them to be crap in the end. The only exceptions are Tifa and Wakka, and only because you have a little more control over those, and because even failing with them still does more damage than a regular attack, and because there's no opportunity cost to using them.
Aerith vs Tifa
Bravely Default
One-Winged Angel: I have a weakness for epic choirs. I don't know why.
FFT's Original Translation
Going to the Moon
Final Fantasy V
Squall's Dreams
FFT Spell Incantations: I will go to my grave not knowing why these were taken out. It makes so little sense.
Weather-themed Names
Tidus/Yuna Relationship: One of the better-written relationships, even if it makes no sense when you spend time with Lulu and Rikku instead. Yuna having this tragic goal that she's dedicated herself to, and feeling hesitant because there's this hopeful awkward boy involved, is great. Tidus' never-give-up attitude is great, especially when he finally sacrifices himself in a similar way to what she'd intended for herself. Everyone's actions make complete sense at all times, and lead into the next part of the subplot perfectly. It has a perfect bittersweet ending, which is why it's a little weird that XII-2 brings him back, but sure. At least Square didn't do something stupid like have him kick a soccer ball bomb and instantly die.
Official Dressphere Spelling
Job Systems
Gunblade
Stay Away From the Summoner Lady

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Card Games
Dragoon (job)
ATB: If you asked me what battle system I like the most in the series, I'd say FFX's. It has the perfect balance of everything. ATB is fun and all, and it does function, but I'm not really that in love with it. I will admit that it does feel like the 'standard' FF battle system, though.
Blitzball
Chemist (FFV)
You Spoony Bard: So bad it's good.
Final Bosses
Ivalice Moogles
Mixing Sci-fi and Fantasy
Final Fantasy IX
Fourth Wall Gilgamesh
Having a good feeling because this is the way
The Laughing Scene
Shadow
Turks (organization)
Monk
Edea
Gilgamesh
The kid who wants to grow up to be a blitzball
I, Garland, will knock you all down!
FFXIV's Free Trial
Ondore's Lies
Same Orphanage
Evil Empires
This Guy Are Sick
Xenogears
Dancing Mad
Kingdom Hearts (series)
SMFFFC
Ultima
Shinra Stairs
Final Fantasy XII
Yu Yevon

Whatever
Fellows (FFIII)
Zidane/Garnet Relationship
Final Fantasy Dissidia 1
FF8 Game Over Screen
Gabranth
Vanille
Tidus being an awkward fool
Frontier Village Dali (song)
Summon Monsters
Split Party Dungeons
Bells (weapon)
Sabin's WoB Segment
Gogo
Yos***aka Amano
Terra vs Celes
FF7 Game Over Screen
Costa del Sol condo
Mario Hoops 3-on-3
Wark vs Kweh
Final Fantasy XIV
Ivalice
FFVI Glitches
Alexandria (city)
Moogle Charm
Dark Aeons
Gogo as Adlai Stevenson Theory
Cast Size Shrinkage Since IX
FFVII CPR Minigame
Smash Ultimate Sephiroth Reveal
Irvines hat
Moomba
Lightning Punching Snow Twice: I didn't even remember this scene. Shows how much of an impression it left on me.
NORG

Dilly dally shilly shally
Tetra Master
Umaro
Hot Dogs
Argath's Name Change
Needlessly Long Summon Animations
Ramza's Nose in Dissidia
FFX vs FFX-2 Blitzball
Final Fantasy XV in a Nutshell
Godbert Manderville: Why did you nominate a secondary NPC from a game you know I didn't play? This is like nominating Woo Ping from WoW, except that at least I played WoW.
Final Fantasy
The Compilation of Final Fantasy VII
Renaming Characters
FFIX's Battle System
Final Fantasy III
FFIX Ability Learning
Final Fantasy Dimensions
Racist Wakka
FFXVI Trailer
Sephiroth vs Vergil Death Battle

Blame yourself or God
YuRiPa
Square-Enix Merger
Final Fantasy II
Level Grinding
NORA
Prerendered Cutscenes
FFXV's Development Woes
Zidane's Sexual Harassment
Final Fantasy XIII: No one was looking more forward to FFXIII than me. I was on a cyberpunk kick at the time, I'd recently replayed FFVII, and I was 100% sure this game would be great. Then reviews came out of Japan that it wasn't, and I thought 'no, it can't be, they must be wrong.' Then I played the game. I got to the second to last boss, then realized 'wait a second, I *hate* this.' And I just never finished. To this day, I've only seen the ending on youtube. The characters suck, the battle system sucks (I still remember one fight where Lightning ran into an AoE and gave me a game over even though I did nothing wrong), Robopope sucks. There's this part where you go to the surface, and it also sucks. Let's not even talk about the tutorial lasting 12 hours. KH2 has nothing on this. Complete trash game. I enjoyed FFII more, although I'll admit it's worse than this in an objective sense.
FF6 Main Character Arguments
Level Scaling
Theatrhythm/Curtain Call
Feral Chaos
Crazy Chocobo
Shelinda
FFX being the last good one
Characters with names three letters or less
Blue Mage Trailer (FFXIV)
Materia (Dissidia NT)

Hundreds of voices screaming in unison
FFVII/FFX Combined Universe Theory
Lightning Dodging


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Megaphones as a weapon

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Yang's wife
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Zack Fair

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The currently-ongoing Final Fantasy Music Contest

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Anagram posted...

I enjoyed FFII more, although I'll admit it's worse than this in an objective sense.

Honestly, even FFII might be better if you only count Dawn of Souls/Pixel Remaster!

Nominate Delita Hyral


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Anagram posted...

Godbert Manderville: Why did you nominate a secondary NPC from a game you know I didn't play? This is like nominating Woo Ping from WoW, except that at least I played WoW.

Well I was kinda hoping youd come across this scene and use it to inform your ranking. But now I get to nominate it separately:

https://youtu.be/EOeQ9-0PTE8


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Hironobu Sakaguchi