Board 8 > So...Eternals, eh?

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UshiromiyaEva
10/25/21 3:15:30 PM
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https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/eternals

Still interested in checking out, but these usually only go down from prerelease reviews don't they? Already teetering at 4th from the bottom.

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masterplum
10/25/21 3:22:09 PM
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I don't think this one is going to do well. Previews made it look fairly boring

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Aecioo
10/25/21 3:37:50 PM
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CasanovaZelos
10/25/21 3:42:08 PM
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Aecioo posted...
It's The Last Jedi of Marvel films


But The Last Jedi got great reviews from critics - this might just be a failure on every front.

Which sucks, because The Rider and Nomadland are two of my favorites from the last couple years and I really hoped this one would turn out well.

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Paratroopa1
10/25/21 3:43:03 PM
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Despite having basically enjoyed every film in the MCU up to this point I can't imagine this one not being stupid, would love to be proven wrong
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swordz9
10/25/21 4:00:18 PM
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Im sure it will be fine. I mean it would have to be insanely terrible beyond all reason to be a bottom tier MCU movie
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masterplum
10/25/21 4:02:43 PM
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swordz9 posted...
Im sure it will be fine. I mean it would have to be insanely terrible beyond all reason to be a bottom tier MCU movie

Bottom tier in quality or money made? It could easily be the latter

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colliding
10/25/21 4:05:05 PM
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of all the marvel properties that should be tv shows and not movies, eternals is one that would definitely work better as a weekly serial.

edit: I'm guessing. I obviously haven't seen it, but I'm not interested

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swordz9
10/25/21 4:14:08 PM
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masterplum posted...


Bottom tier in quality or money made? It could easily be the latter

Quality. I mean theres no way it can be like Iron Man 2 bad hopefully
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HeroDelTiempo17
10/25/21 4:22:08 PM
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What I'm hearing about it is that it goes for something completely different from typical MCU stuff but doesn't quite pull it off. So at least if it's bad it might be in a novel way!

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Camden
10/25/21 4:26:11 PM
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I still don't even know what this movie is about. Feels like everything I've seen about it has been meant to tell me who the Eternals are but not what the movie is about.

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UshiromiyaEva
10/25/21 4:26:59 PM
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Camden posted...
I still don't even know what this movie is about. Feels like everything I've seen about it has been meant to tell me who the Eternals are but not what the movie is about.

I've seen every trailer and TV spot and I couldn't event begin to piece together what this movie is.

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Mac Arrowny
10/25/21 4:31:19 PM
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
What I'm hearing about it is that it goes for something completely different from typical MCU stuff but doesn't quite pull it off. So at least if it's bad it might be in a novel way!

I see you missed all the reviews saying it's boring because it's a generic Marvel movie but 2h40m this time?
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Leonhart4
10/25/21 4:33:29 PM
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Aecioo posted...
It's The Last Jedi of Marvel films

Age of Ultron still has that title locked up

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Crescent-Moon
10/25/21 5:03:53 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
I've seen every trailer and TV spot and I couldn't event begin to piece together what this movie is.

masterplum posted...
I don't think this one is going to do well. Previews made it look fairly boring
Both of these

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Aecioo
10/25/21 5:22:47 PM
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HeroDelTiempo17
10/25/21 5:26:25 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
I see you missed all the reviews saying it's boring because it's a generic Marvel movie but 2h40m this time?

The reviews are all over the fucking place, dude

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PrivateBiscuit1
10/25/21 5:27:24 PM
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It's the Indiana Jones: Temple of Doom of Robocop films.

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TotallyNotMI
10/25/21 5:29:25 PM
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It's The Eternals of the MCU.

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Mr Lasastryke
10/25/21 6:08:59 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
Age of Ultron still has that title locked up

is there a vocal minority that fucking loves age of ultron?

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UshiromiyaEva
10/25/21 6:09:57 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
is there a vocal minority that fucking loves age of ultron?

MCU fanfiction writers.

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LeonhartFour
10/25/21 6:12:56 PM
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It's got a good audience score on Rotten Tomatoes!

although looking for a movie that has a good review score and a bad audience score, Captain Marvel is the one movie that actually fits the bill

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RikkuAlmighty
10/25/21 6:20:06 PM
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I'm really looking forward to this one.

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UshiromiyaEva
10/25/21 6:30:03 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
It's got a good audience score on Rotten Tomatoes!

I don't want to just go from engagement impressions, but there are a loooooooot of people in discussion threads of this on Twitter who have not seen the movie who are pretty vocal that this will be the best Marvel movie to date due to representation in the cast and staff. It's absolutely possible that we'll see an initial reverse review bomb here, like Rise of Skywalker got.

Or, you know, people may just like it more than critics. Hard to say! I've never had less (not lower) expectations for an MCU movie than this.

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LeonhartFour
10/25/21 6:30:38 PM
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UshiromiyaEva
10/25/21 6:32:29 PM
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Ah.

Yeah I just attribute that to it being a time when people still just assumed the sequel to Avengers HAD to have been good.

Also Joss hadn't been cancelled yet, and Whedonism was still a rampant thing.


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RyoCaliente
10/25/21 6:35:53 PM
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Aecioo posted...
It's The Last Jedi of Marvel films

So the best movie of Phase 4?

Anyways, I would assume this is a test-run for X-Men. I think they stacked the cast this much so they could afford it failing; there'll probably be enough there for a follow-up, either directly via a sequel or in-universe. But it will intrigue them much more to see if they can pull off an X-Men, or if they'd be better off starting with a Professor X movie, for example, and building the X-Men out of that.

Introducing a huge cast like that will always create problems, because you're always gonna short-sell some people and maybe the person you do pay a lot of attention to just doesn't work out. It makes writing and character development messy.

It'll be fascinating to see if they would try to separate the Fantastic Four, but I can't imagine that working out, given how interwoven those characters are (while it should be possible to do an independent movie of several mutants, independent of their X-Men role).

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masterplum
10/25/21 6:51:36 PM
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Honesy capitan Marvel is the Last Jedi of Marvel movies is pretty apt. Lots of similarities.

I really liked both of them

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redrocket
10/25/21 6:53:30 PM
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I dont think this movie will tell us anything at all about a potential X-Men movie, tbh.

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andylt
10/25/21 7:09:20 PM
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Lightning Strikes
10/25/21 7:22:07 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/eternals

Still interested in checking out, but these usually only go down from prerelease reviews don't they? Already teetering at 4th from the bottom.

Not usually in a major way but it depends how it was screened to critics. If it is only shown to a select few or in one region, it will likely ho down. If it is at a festival or just general critics screenings it usually stays around the same (+/- 5%) after ~50 reviews. In this case it was screened for critics and was at a film festival so I think this will stick.

LeonhartFour posted...
It's got a good audience score on Rotten Tomatoes!

although looking for a movie that has a good review score and a bad audience score, Captain Marvel is the one movie that actually fits the bill

Captain Marvel is literally the reason that Rotten Tomatoes now requires verification for audience scores because of idiots with an agenda (wonder what agenda that might have been) were review bombing it. Not an accurate score.

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banananor
10/26/21 6:29:56 AM
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I've never been a huge fan of the more cosmic end of marvel comics- it's not much fun watching abstract entities compare power levels

Leave the gods to DC

But who knows- I warmed up to MCU thor eventually

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XIII_rocks
10/26/21 6:42:26 AM
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masterplum posted...
Honesy capitan Marvel is the Last Jedi of Marvel movies is pretty apt. Lots of similarities.

I really liked both of them

I don't see it (beyond the endless mocking of LMS). Captain Marvel is just this aggressively fine Marvel movie played relatively straight that happens to have a female protagonist. TLJ's biggest problem, it seems, was the changes it made.

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ninkendo
10/26/21 6:46:49 AM
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72% still seems pretty high to me

Says me the guy who regularly enjoys movies in the 30% range

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HeroDelTiempo17
10/27/21 12:10:15 PM
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There are some wild spoilers going around for this right now so heads up if you care.

Without saying too much it's uh...something just stupid enough to go viral


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redrocket
10/27/21 12:11:44 PM
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But is it stupid enough to be true

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HeroDelTiempo17
10/27/21 12:21:29 PM
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redrocket posted...
But is it stupid enough to be true

It's from one of the reviews so yes

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UshiromiyaEva
10/27/21 12:25:41 PM
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I don't care so give me the deets.

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HeroDelTiempo17
10/27/21 12:57:24 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
I don't care so give me the deets.

There's apparently a scene in Hiroshima 1945 with one of the Eternals yelling "what have I done?" which has led to a lot of 'the Eternals did Hiroshima' jokes


I am sure (I hope?) there is more to it but with zero context it is extremely funny

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UshiromiyaEva
10/27/21 1:03:17 PM
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That is...NOT something that will fly well in most contexts.

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redrocket
10/27/21 1:11:54 PM
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I mean, even with what little I know about this movie, it seems obvious that he feels guilty about letting Hiroshima happen due to their non-interference rule. .still seems like a questionable scene though!

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andylt
10/27/21 1:51:36 PM
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Remember in X-Men Apocalypse when they had Olivia Munn wander around Auschwitz in a fetishy swimsuit. None of this stuff surprises me anymore.

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colliding
10/27/21 1:58:38 PM
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I don't see a huge problem with the spoiler scene unless it's like a Darth Vader-esque "noooooooo" or something. In other words, I could see a film where that scene plays well and it appropriately understanding of the history.

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UshiromiyaEva
10/27/21 10:47:43 PM
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Down to 64%. Lowest rated MCU movie.

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Waluigi1
10/28/21 7:18:06 PM
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Well I'm really looking forward to it at least.

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GuessMyUserName
10/28/21 7:30:28 PM
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does this mean less ragging on Dark World

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UshiromiyaEva
10/28/21 7:31:22 PM
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Maniac64
10/28/21 8:41:08 PM
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GuessMyUserName posted...
does this mean less ragging on Dark World
I think the standards for super hero movies are higher than they were back then.

I feel like it would get rated much lower if it came out now.

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HeroDelTiempo17
10/28/21 8:55:56 PM
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Maniac64 posted...
I think the standards for super hero movies are higher than they were back then.

I feel like it would get rated much lower if it came out now.

This probably goes for the majority of early MCU stuff, tbh. They were basically coasting on the relatively new idea of setting up a shared universe. Now that EVERYTHING is a shared universe people are much pickier.

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GuessMyUserName
10/29/21 9:46:56 PM
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it happened

MCU's gone Rotten

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