Poll of the Day > My wife has a Christian patient who is refusing med care in favor of prayer

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Far-Queue
10/19/21 6:02:27 PM
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*Christian "scientist"

Dude fell off a ladder and is fucked up head-to-toe and he's fighting to keep from wearing a back brace and c-collar as well as swearing off meds because he believes in the power of prayer to save him

Dude could end up paralyzed or worse without proper care what a fucking moron

But hey if he winds up in a wheelchair at least his god won't send him to the fiery pits of hell so he's got that going for him

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Mead
10/19/21 6:06:59 PM
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if I was god Id be pretty annoyed

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Muscles
10/19/21 6:44:03 PM
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Mead posted...
if I was god Id be pretty annoyed
This, if I gave you the ability to be doctors and fix each other it would piss me off to see people refusing my gift in order to try and appease me

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Lokarin
10/19/21 6:44:25 PM
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The man dies, sees god... god is all like "I sent you like 5 doctors, you were supposed to use them"

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ReggieTheReckless
10/19/21 7:40:11 PM
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That's why you have to get the TV doctor that cares not for malpractice and must always follow "do no harm" to the point where he lies, gets the patient anesthetized, and does all the fixes while he's out and then he nevvver knows the different
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Unbridled9
10/19/21 7:42:22 PM
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Tell her that God answered her prayers... by providing her with you who can help heal him.
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Nichtcrawler X
10/19/21 7:42:50 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
Dude could end up paralyzed or worse without proper care what a fucking moron

Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

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MartianManchild
10/19/21 8:00:06 PM
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Why does this guys choices about his own personal health bother you so much? If he wants to try and pray his back pain away, that is his choice and it doesnt have any impact on you whatsoever.
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Far-Queue
10/19/21 8:15:41 PM
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Fuck off shit gimmick stay outta my topics

Nichtcrawler X posted...
Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.
They document denial of care, in part for this very reason. It's in the dude's chart for sure.

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Nichtcrawler X
10/19/21 8:16:47 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
They document denial of care, in part for this very reason. It's in the dude's chart for sure.

Would be the solution yes.

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lihlih
10/19/21 9:11:26 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
Fuck off shit gimmick stay outta my topics

They document denial of care, in part for this very reason. It's in the dude's chart for sure.


A lot of people that's never been in the medical field don't really know about stuff like denial of care. There's a reason why the EMT book goes over it a shitload.
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ReturnOfFa
10/19/21 9:36:09 PM
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wow, didn't know things like a sling were antithetical to Christianity!

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Cacciato
10/19/21 9:40:08 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
wow, didn't know things like a sling were antithetical to Christianity!
I JESUS DIDNT GET A SLING THEN NEITHER DO I
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Mead
10/19/21 9:54:17 PM
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for real though did Jesus ever fuck

cause his mom got done up by Yahweh or whomever

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Lil_Bit83
10/19/21 10:23:35 PM
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Well, she can suggest a course of treatment to her patients, but she can't force them to follow it. I'm sure its frustrating, but its his ass he's risking n the end.

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Mead
10/19/21 10:29:52 PM
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Lil_Bit83 posted...
Well, she can suggest a course of treatment to her patients, but she can't force them to follow it. I'm sure its frustrating, but its his ass he's risking n the end.

Yes you are allowed to refuse medical treatment. I think most people know that already.

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Lil_Bit83
10/19/21 10:40:50 PM
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Mead posted...
Yes you are allowed to refuse medical treatment. I think most people know that already.
Yes that's the whole point of this thread Noble Mead.

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Mead
10/19/21 10:46:10 PM
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Lil_Bit83 posted...
Yes that's the whole point of this thread Noble Mead.

is it?

seems like the point is that its very frustrating that someone would refuse a medication that will most likely help them recover

who benefits from suffering for a belief?

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BEERandWEED
10/19/21 10:48:37 PM
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Such a brave person.
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JOExHIGASHI
10/19/21 10:51:04 PM
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Why is he at the doctor's?

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Far-Queue
10/19/21 11:25:28 PM
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JOExHIGASHI posted...
Why is he at the doctor's?
He's not. He's in intensive care at the hospital. I imagine someone called him an ambulance or brought him in. He's pretty fucked up, like not fully ambulatory fucked up so I imagine whoever found him would've made sure to get him to a hospital even if he was refusing.

Honestly don't know how he got there and probably won't find out. My wife is careful not to divulge too much info. She keeps shit vague to avoid HIPAA violations

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Muscles
10/20/21 1:13:44 AM
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JOExHIGASHI posted...
Why is he at the doctor's?
So he can ask them for advice and immediately do what he was already planning instead

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Unbridled9
10/21/21 9:48:16 AM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
wow, didn't know things like a sling were antithetical to Christianity!

David used a sling to kill Goliath!

And yea. It's not.
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Criminalt
10/21/21 11:15:02 AM
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What was he doing using a ladder? Didn't he trust God to answer his prayers for the power of levitation?

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Conner4REAL
10/21/21 11:34:18 AM
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Religious belief brings all the crazy of being a heroin addict but none of the high.

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ComradeSeraphim
10/21/21 2:00:57 PM
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I say let him refuse treatment. Natural selection.

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BUMPED2002
10/31/21 6:11:10 AM
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People are free to make their own medical decisions and if that person believes that prayer will help them, that's their business. Like medicine, either prayer will help or it won't but at the end of the day, we as individuals decide what's best for us which is why I am against vaccine mandates.

When we go to buy a car, we don't allow the salesman to pick a car for us. We pick the car we like and the one we decided on.

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Sarcasthma
10/31/21 8:52:12 AM
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Zangulus posted...
lol
Looks like BUMPED is going all-out now.

  1. Homophobic
  2. Anti-vaccine (mandates)
  3. ???

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Far-Queue
10/31/21 8:53:54 AM
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Spoiler alert: prayer won't help.

Medicine may.

Also don't necrobump my topics, if the board has lost interest in a topic I've made I'm perfectly okay with that and the topics can purge naturally

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Sarcasthma
10/31/21 8:54:54 AM
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Far-Queue posted...
Also don't necrobump my topics
Not even on Halloween?!

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adjl
10/31/21 9:08:35 AM
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BUMPED2002 posted...
Like medicine, either prayer will help or it won't

Either aliens made entirely of sentient cheese will materialize in his hospital room and repair his neck with a laser powered by the spirit of friendship that they have harvested from the wagging tails of every dog that has ever gone missing from this planet, or they won't.

To be clear, spirituality does have a non-negligible benefit as part of recovering from medical issues. Being in the right headspace works wonders for recovery, and spirituality (including prayer) can absolutely be a part of that. That does not mean, however, that his spine is going to reassemble itself because he said "please" to the right guy. That's gonna take some medicine.

BUMPED2002 posted...
People are free to make their own medical decisions and if that person believes that prayer will help them, that's their business.

They are free to make that decision. Then we, in turn, are free to mock that decision for being a stupid decision. Given that it is a stupid decision, this seems reasonable.

BUMPED2002 posted...
we as individuals decide what's best for us which is why I am against vaccine mandates.

Fortunately, vaccines are not being mandated. People remain free to avoid the vaccine if they so wish, and that is unlikely to change. That decision has consequences that reach far beyond personal health and put other people at risk, though, so in order to limit those consequences, it is necessary to restrict those that refuse to be vaccinated.

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Lokarin
10/31/21 9:49:14 AM
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Far-Queue posted...
Also don't necrobump my topics,

It's not our fault! It's the dang-ass "More topics from this board..." feature!!!

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MartianManchild
10/31/21 10:34:49 AM
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Far-Queue posted...
Spoiler alert: prayer won't help.
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adjl
10/31/21 1:04:23 PM
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MartianManchild posted...
https://tinyurl.com/4wa35h4d

adjl posted...
To be clear, spirituality does have a non-negligible benefit as part of recovering from medical issues. Being in the right headspace works wonders for recovery, and spirituality (including prayer) can absolutely be a part of that. That does not mean, however, that his spine is going to reassemble itself because he said "please" to the right guy. That's gonna take some medicine.


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ReturnOfFa
10/31/21 1:15:49 PM
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MartianManchild posted...
https://tinyurl.com/4wa35h4d
Opinion

Researchers at the Heritage Foundation said, We have a logical reason why religion might influence physical health through mental health, through enhancing social support, through influencing health behaviors, all affecting physical health outcomes. So, at the very least, prayer is beneficial. It works. In fact, Today, 101 medical schools incorporate patient spirituality in their curriculum, up from 17 in 1995. This fact suggests that these principles are being incorporated into medical education

Wait a sec, that isn't how you do research....

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Far-Queue
10/31/21 1:33:47 PM
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I ain't clicking on any bullshit link provided by the resident Shit Gimmick

Feel free to fuck right off outta my topics, Shit Gimmick

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ReturnOfFa
10/31/21 1:36:30 PM
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Picture this, a new film called....The Christian Patient.

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Cacciato
10/31/21 1:41:02 PM
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MartianManchild posted...
https://tinyurl.com/4wa35h4d
Whoa whoa whoa, youre telling me that you found an opinion piece from Fox News to support your post. No. Fucking. Way. Howd you do that?
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Sega9599
10/31/21 2:25:20 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
But hey if he winds up in a wheelchair at least his god won't send him to the fiery pits of hell so he's got that going for him

He's deluded if he thinks taking medical care guarantees damnation.

Mead posted...
for real though did Jesus ever

cause his mom got done up by Yahweh or whomever

kinda weird how you're allowed to post things like this tbh

Conner4REAL posted...
Religious belief brings all the crazy of being a heroin addict but none of the high.

Lots of things classify as 'religious belief', but I bet you respect most of the common ones you see that aren't part of institutions

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Mead
10/31/21 2:31:55 PM
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Sega9599 posted...
kinda weird how you're allowed to post things like this tbh

why is it weird? Romantic and sexual love are a large part of life for many people. If Jesus was a person that existed, why is it strange to wonder whether or not it was part of his experience in this world?

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Mead
10/31/21 3:10:28 PM
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And like, if god actually impregnate her, did he use divine cum?

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DirtBasedSoap
10/31/21 3:11:47 PM
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@Sega9599 god busted a fat nut in jesus mom

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LinkPizza
10/31/21 3:19:13 PM
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Mead
10/31/21 3:19:56 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
https://youtu.be/tVV3CAjyZ8Q

lmfao

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faramir77
10/31/21 3:44:11 PM
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Mead posted...
for real though did Jesus ever fuck

cause his mom got done up by Yahweh or whomever

Mary cheated on Joseph and got pregnant, and then lied about it, which began the greatest increasingly escalating "little white lie" in world history.

Imagine busting a nut and then 1000 years later a crusading army conquers Jerusalem in the name of your illegitimate child.

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Mead
10/31/21 3:52:11 PM
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faramir77 posted...
Mary cheated on Joseph and got pregnant, and then lied about it

Lets say for the sake of exploring the notion that you are right, and that Joseph knew and accepted the lie. Do you think him making that decision showed strength or weakness of character? Or something else entirely?


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faramir77
10/31/21 4:11:22 PM
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Mead posted...
Lets say for the sake of exploring the notion that you are right, and that Joseph knew and accepted the lie. Do you think him making that decision showed strength or weakness of character? Or something else entirely?

Maybe Joseph was the one who spread the lie and caused it to propagate. His way of getting back at a cheating spouse was to cause her lie to become the largest religion in world history and be used as the justification for everything from the globally accepted calendar to cultural genocides on literally every continent.

So to answer that, yeah, weakness of character. Joseph was a super fucked up guy if he knew.

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Mead
10/31/21 4:18:14 PM
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faramir77 posted...
Maybe Joseph was the one who spread the lie and caused it to propagate. His way of getting back at a cheating spouse was to cause her lie to become the largest religion in world history and be used as the justification for everything from the globally accepted calendar to cultural genocides on literally every continent.

So to answer that, yeah, weakness of character. Joseph was a super fucked up guy if he knew.

I dont think I agree, Im just not that cynical

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faramir77
10/31/21 4:19:32 PM
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Mead posted...
I dont think I agree, Im just not that cynical

Now might be a good time for me to make it clear that I'm being facetious.

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