Poll of the Day > Ohio Anti-Vaxxer who's DYING Sobs UNCONTROLLABLY cause Hospitals WON'T HELP HER

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Full Throttle
10/18/21 10:13:50 PM
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Do you think these hospitals are being heartless for denying them these life saving transplants?



65 y/o Michelle Vitullo from Ohio who REFUSES to get vaccinated for religious and medical reasons was DENIED a life saving transplant from her DAUGHTER because of it as she desperately needs to SURVIVE but the hospital says she needs the shot because the transplant would weaken her immune system!!

Michelle sobbed uncontrollably talking to the media about going to the Cleveland Clinic for her stage 4 liver disease since 2019 and at that end stage, the liver is permantnly damaged and many of its cells turn into scar tissue

But she refused the vaccine for religious reasons and fears it could damage her health with that stance now derailing her life

Despite this she is still refusing it and would rather have her trust in GOD than the DEVIL'S MEDICINE but is hoping another hospital that isn't implementing this draconian policy take her. She said Government has no right to tell her what she has to put in her body and doesn't understand why the world doesn't see what is happening around them.

She was excited when her daughter, Angela Green was an exact match and doctors were set to remove part of her liver and use it to save her mother when it was called off 2 weeks before the scheduled apointment because they found out both were unvaccinated.

They released a statement that it began requiring all organ donors to get vaccinated and said "For the living donor, preventing COVID-19 infection around the time of a surgical operation is crucial. Medications taken after an organ transplant weaken a person's immune response. Serious complications of COVID-19 are most likely to develop in these individuals who have weakened immune systems"

Their entire family, who are also NOT vaccinated say they are now facing the prospect of losing Michelle

Jim, her husband said sobbingly "It's not right. This is wrong. How can you do that to somebody?. They had us sign an agreement that we would live within one hour of the Cleveland Clinic, i had to quit my job because of all the visits, ended up sleeping literally hundreds of days in my car in the arport there because of the expense."

They all oppose the vaccine AND mask mandate and said to do this to them is a big mistake and against their beleifs who say they had adverse reactions before from vaccines like blood clotting and heart problems

In Stage 4 liver disease, the liver may become enlarged or shrink, liver cells are replaced by scar tisue and the liver cannot function properly

Cirrhosis can be fatal and is found in the final stage before transplant is necessary. It is responsible for storing glycogen which the body needs for energy and making bile that helps digest fats

The mother and daughter broke down in tears as Michelle said "I don't think they do care. I feel bad because my grandkids, they say, grandma, we're praying for you to get better'. It breaks my heart because now i have to tell them i may not get better"

This happened to another woman, with stage 5 renal failure who was denied a transplant over vaccinations in Colorado where Leilani Lutali and her christian donor, Jaimee Fougner were denied of the same reason and now she faces death if she doesn't get it done..

Jim says these people are HEARTLESS and would rather watch their patients die and families in pain because of some draconian policy like vaccinations and say this is unfair.

Do you think these Hospitals are being heartless?

Entire Vitullo Family who are UNVACCINATED -

https://i.imgur.com/8TaRjri.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8C8PdKs.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/NcGBAO0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tZQZ8rw.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/iH8WNWx.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2jDQTI8.jpg

Hospital -

https://i.imgur.com/pneEst1.jpg

Another woman and friend who are denied -

https://i.imgur.com/K8Q6Fx7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4Z5fBzy.jpg
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helIy
10/18/21 10:22:27 PM
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get absolutely fucked by the consequences of your actions

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BlackScythe0
10/18/21 10:25:18 PM
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I'm tired of hearing about religious exemptions from people that aren't part of that religion that actually stops shit like blood transfusions or what not. It's bull shit just be fucking honest.
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InfernalFive
10/18/21 11:07:38 PM
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Clench281
10/19/21 5:28:23 AM
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I guess it's all part of god's plan

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Mad_Max
10/19/21 5:44:31 AM
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Why is she crying victim? The hospital isn't doing this to her. She chose this. They're more than willing to help her, if she chooses to get the vaccine. Literally her own fault.

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MagicalPrincess
10/19/21 6:32:49 AM
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It's 100% unconstitutional and illegal to force anyone to put anything into someone's body and the hospital can be sued since hospitals have to help everyone. This is not Nazi Germany.

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Cacciato
10/19/21 6:36:30 AM
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MagicalPrincess posted...
It's 100% unconstitutional and illegal to force anyone to put anything into someone's body and the hospital can be sued since hospitals have to help everyone. This is not Nazi Germany.
Would you please shut the fuck up.
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BlackScythe0
10/19/21 12:27:23 PM
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Cacciato posted...
Would you please shut the fuck up.

I think it's time to just start reporting them for spamming. They're just copy pasting objectively false statements.
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Revelation34
10/19/21 12:52:32 PM
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MagicalPrincess posted...
It's 100% unconstitutional and illegal to force anyone to put anything into someone's body and the hospital can be sued since hospitals have to help everyone. This is not Nazi Germany.


The first vaccine ever created was created after the constitution was written so you're full of shit.
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Kimbos_Egg
10/19/21 1:00:41 PM
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oh no.

anyway.

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Lokarin
10/19/21 1:18:50 PM
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Covid has killed more Americans than WW1 and WW2 combined... so buy War Bonds to Stop the Spread

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adjl
10/19/21 1:33:45 PM
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Full Throttle posted...
Despite this she is still refusing it and would rather have her trust in GOD than the DEVIL'S MEDICINE but is hoping another hospital that isn't implementing this draconian policy take her.

So vaccines are "the devil's medicine," but not literally carving out somebody else's organ and sticking it inside her?

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LinkPizza
10/19/21 1:39:14 PM
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I bet these people would try to sue if they family died if they caught covid after it getting the shot, too I think she should get the shot if she wants the organ

adjl posted...
So vaccines are "the devil's medicine," but not literally carving out somebody else's organ and sticking it inside her?

I was wondering that, as well
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DevilSummoner1
10/19/21 2:19:37 PM
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MagicalPrincess posted...
It's 100% unconstitutional and illegal to force anyone to put anything into someone's body and the hospital can be sued since hospitals have to help everyone. This is not Nazi Germany.

Are you serious?

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ReturnOfFa
10/19/21 2:49:11 PM
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MagicalPrincess posted...
It's 100% unconstitutional and illegal to force anyone to put anything into someone's body and the hospital can be sued since hospitals have to help everyone. This is not Nazi Germany.
You are required to follow procedure before receiving an organ transplant. You will be required to take immunosuppressants for the rest of your life so that the kidney is accepted. You are REQUIRED to be vaccinated against common diseases prior to a transplant, otherwise you're FAR FAR FAR more likely to get fucked by a virus post-transplant. Do you advise the doctor on what variety of anesthetic to use (aside from allergy exceptions that THEY have established) during brain surgery? No, you let them do what they need to do to ensure a SUCCESSFUL OPERATION.

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ReturnOfFa
10/19/21 2:51:19 PM
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Does she WANT A SUCCESSFUL TRANSPLANT? Then she will GET THE VACCINE. Otherwise, she wants a COMPROMISED TRANSPLANT. Do you advise the doctor to cut through your foot to do a heart operation?

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Notschmendrake
10/19/21 2:57:57 PM
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Good. Spreaders can fuck off and die.
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BlackScythe0
10/19/21 3:01:59 PM
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DevilSummoner1 posted...
Are you serious?

They might be, but they don't respond to the people educating them how their comment is objectively false and just copy paste it in multiple threads.
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badjay
10/19/21 4:50:22 PM
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Full Throttle posted...


Despite this she is still refusing it and would rather have her trust in GOD than the DEVIL'S MEDICINE but is hoping another hospital that isn't implementing this draconian policy take her.
She can believe in God giving her a magical new liver then.

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old_school227
10/19/21 5:43:50 PM
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Show me a religion that says you can't get a vaccine but will also let you get an organ transplant

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Far-Queue
10/19/21 5:47:44 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
Do you advise the doctor to cut through your foot to do a heart operation?
"I'm no doctor but my Facebook group circle jerk 'research' tells me that this is the proper procedure so yes I do advise heart surgery via foot." - anti-vaxxers

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Decoy77
10/19/21 5:55:32 PM
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Notschmendrake posted...
Good. Spreaders can fuck off and die.

You do realize that those who have been vaxed are still spreaders and carriers and get sick with it right? Right?

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ReturnOfFa
10/19/21 6:00:16 PM
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Decoy77 posted...
You do realize that those who have been vaxed are still spreaders and carriers and get sick with it right? Right?
You do understand the statistic difference between the likelihood of someone 'spreading' the virus as a vaccinated or an unvaccinated person, right? Right?

You do realize that your line of thinking is a clear obfuscation of how vaccines greatly diminish the likelihood of spreading the virus, right?

Well, probably wrong actually, just from an observational standpoint and experience with others.

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SeahorseCpt89
10/19/21 6:01:40 PM
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old_school227 posted...
Show me a religion that says you can't get a vaccine but will also let you get an organ transplant
Hell, show me the part of the Bible that says you shouldnt get vaccinated.

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ReturnOfFa
10/19/21 6:02:03 PM
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old_school227 posted...
Show me a religion that says you can't get a vaccine but will also let you get an organ transplant
O_O

XD

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ReturnOfFa
10/19/21 6:09:17 PM
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Hell, show me the part of the Bible that says God DOESN'T destroy the fetuses of those who do not worship him!

Oh wait sorry, wrong notes, uhhh one sec

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ReturnOfFa
10/19/21 6:11:04 PM
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"Hear and give ear; do not be haughty, for the Lord has spoken. . . . And if you say in your heart, 'Why have these things come upon me?' it is for the greatness of your iniquity that your skirts are lifted up, and you are violated . . . because you have forgotten me and trusted in lies. I myself will lift up your skirts over your face, and your shame will be seen." (Jeremiah 13:1526 NRSV)

damn I'm still trying to find the vaccine part...

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Zareth
10/19/21 6:30:44 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
"Hear and give ear; do not be haughty, for the Lord has spoken. . . . And if you say in your heart, 'Why have these things come upon me?' it is for the greatness of your iniquity that your skirts are lifted up, and you are violated . . . because you have forgotten me and trusted in lies. I myself will lift up your skirts over your face, and your shame will be seen." (Jeremiah 13:1526 NRSV)

damn I'm still trying to find the vaccine part...
Damn, next time there's a protest with people carrying bible verse signs I think I'll make one saying "BELIEVE IN GOD OR HE WILL RAPE YOU!!! (Jeremiah 13:15-26)

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Decoy77
10/19/21 6:45:06 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
You do understand the statistic difference between the likelihood of someone 'spreading' the virus as a vaccinated or an unvaccinated person, right? Right?

You do realize that your line of thinking is a clear obfuscation of how vaccines greatly diminish the likelihood of spreading the virus, right?

Well, probably wrong actually, just from an observational standpoint and experience with others.

https://i.imgur.com/p4CzPx8.jpg

Damn you'd think if it was effective then that place with the highest vaxed rate would have the lowest cases...doesn't seem to be the case does it?

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ReturnOfFa
10/19/21 6:50:13 PM
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Decoy77 posted...
https://i.imgur.com/p4CzPx8.jpg

Damn you'd think if it was effective then that place with the highest vaxed rate would have the lowest cases...doesn't seem to be the case does it?
Oooo, two circled screenshots in a very specific instance to try and prove a point? Time to dig in...

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ReturnOfFa
10/19/21 7:01:51 PM
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Decoy77 posted...
https://i.imgur.com/p4CzPx8.jpg

Damn you'd think if it was effective then that place with the highest vaxed rate would have the lowest cases...doesn't seem to be the case does it?
a) INCIDENCE RATE is not HOSPITALIZATION RATE, nor is it DEATH RATE.

b) Ireland is NOT at herd immunity, they are at 74.6% for an overall vaccination rate. Waterford's overall rate is at 97.6% with a pop of 53,504. That's still nearly 1,300 people unvaccinated in the population, and that's more than enough to foster an outbreak that will bring them up to #2 in the country.

c) do you think not vaccinating would be smarter? what's your solution? cast doubt on the efficacy of vaccines and then...what's the end goal?

https://www.thejournal.ie/covid-19-whats-behind-the-increase-in-cases-and-how-could-it-impact-re-opening-plans-5573287-Oct2021/

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ReturnOfFa
10/19/21 7:09:22 PM
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Wow, go figure, the case rate went down as the vaccination rate went up!

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Clench281
10/19/21 7:57:11 PM
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Decoy77 posted...
https://i.imgur.com/p4CzPx8.jpg

Damn you'd think if it was effective then that place with the highest vaxed rate would have the lowest cases...doesn't seem to be the case does it?

You'd think that if it's effective, then people who are vaccinated would be less likely to have serious covid complications. And that's what we see.

Without looking at the vaccination status of who is and is not contracting covid, and their severity of outcome, your point is worthless.

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Lokarin
10/19/21 8:23:12 PM
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A thing about the Ireland... that "highest rate in country" or whatever is an incidence rate of about 405. The UK as a whole has an incidence rate of about 450

I mean, that's still not GOOD by any means... the US is at about 180, but in context they're still better than the rest of the UK. Ireland as a whole is at about 245.

Canada is at about 67.

Mexico, on the other hand, is an absolute viral chad with an incidence rate of 20... yeah, that's exceptionally good.

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Lil_Bit83
10/19/21 10:28:35 PM
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Hospital tells her recommended course of action
She whines like a little bitch and refuses
Points finger at hospital to try to gain sympathy for her own actions
No sympathy from me

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Revelation34
10/20/21 1:48:48 AM
#38:


old_school227 posted...
Show me a religion that says you can't get a vaccine but will also let you get an organ transplant


There's no religion that actually does either one of those things. Except maybe Scientology since they are a newish religion. They believe a lot of weird shit.
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Lonewolf80
10/20/21 4:29:38 AM
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Let her die. If it's her "gods plan" to let her die of COVID then so be it. It's her own fault for refusing a life-saving vaccine. One less breather using our planets finite resources.

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papercup
10/20/21 8:49:30 AM
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Sucks but she knows what she needs to do, and she instead whines.

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adjl
10/20/21 9:03:32 AM
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Decoy77 posted...
Damn you'd think if it was effective then that place with the highest vaxed rate would have the lowest cases...

All things being equal, sure. Given enough existing cases and public health restrictions being lifted before those cases go away, though, it's certainly possible to have outbreaks - even significant ones - in well-vaccinated areas. If you look at Ireland's overall case count figures, their double-vax rate really started to pick up around the beginning of July, while their fourth wave really started to pick up around mid-July and has levelled out at a moderate case load that really hasn't receded. Without looking into it in great detail, my interpretation is that that suggests that they used vaccination rates as a metric for lifting restrictions, rather than case load. The vaccination rate has kept the case load from spiking (the highest 7-day average in these fourth/fifth waves is less than 30% of the peak seen in their third wave), and hospitalizations/deaths are way down, but vaccines alone are not going to get rid of an existing case load, so it's been able to persist. I would also guess that it's been fuelled by tourists looking to take advantage of the weaker restrictions, but I don't know what their policies are in that regard and I can't say for sure.

Ireland doesn't indicate that the vaccine doesn't work (if anything, you can look at how low their cases are compared to their third wave despite having fewer other restrictions in place, and that tells you they're working), but it is a cautionary tale against relying exclusively on it. It remains important to maintain and enforce restrictions - especially for unvaccinated people - until case numbers come under control, rather than assuming the vaccine will handle the issue.

old_school227 posted...
Show me a religion that says you can't get a vaccine but will also let you get an organ transplant

Seriously. This is literally a matter of consuming a piece of another human to sustain yourself. Any religion that objects to injections is going to object to cannibalism as well.

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Revelation34
10/20/21 11:20:38 AM
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adjl posted...
This is literally a matter of consuming a piece of another human to sustain yourself.


That is definitely not literally since that's not how transplants are done.
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adjl
10/20/21 11:24:10 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
That is definitely not literally since that's not how transplants are done.

-I am dying
-I (using a surgeon as a proxy) remove part of your liver
-I (using a surgeon as a proxy) insert part of your liver into myself
-I live

Om nom nom

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Revelation34
10/20/21 11:36:43 AM
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adjl posted...


-I am dying
-I (using a surgeon as a proxy) remove part of your liver
-I (using a surgeon as a proxy) insert part of your liver into myself
-I live

Om nom nom


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Far-Queue
10/20/21 11:41:36 AM
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You're aware that many words have multiple definitions attached to them, including "consumption", no?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/consumption

1
a : the act or process of consuming
consumption of food
consumption of resources
b : use by or exposure to a particular group or audience
The document was not intended for public consumption.

2: use of something
the jet's high consumption of fuel
the consumption of electricity

3
a: TUBERCULOSIS
b: a progressive wasting away of the body especially from pulmonary tuberculosis

You can't cherry pick a single definition and exclude the other meanings to suit your argument bruh

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adjl
10/20/21 11:57:54 AM
#47:


OM NOM NOM

Om nom nom

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Revelation34
10/20/21 1:32:59 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
You're aware that many words have multiple definitions attached to them, including "consumption", no?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/consumption

1
a : the act or process of consuming
consumption of food
consumption of resources
b : use by or exposure to a particular group or audience
The document was not intended for public consumption.

2: use of something
the jet's high consumption of fuel
the consumption of electricity

3
a: TUBERCULOSIS
b: a progressive wasting away of the body especially from pulmonary tuberculosis

You can't cherry pick a single definition and exclude the other meanings to suit your argument bruh


None of those apply to the way he used it.
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Far-Queue
10/20/21 2:21:57 PM
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lol yes they do.

You struggling today, mate? Need this broken down for you?

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ReturnOfFa
10/20/21 2:23:08 PM
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Does the body 'consume' the kidney? I mean, sure, if it's rejected. I wouldn't call it consumption if it's accepted.

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ReturnOfFa
10/20/21 2:24:57 PM
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Not usually with Rev, but there are technicalities here.

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