Poll of the Day > Ohio Anti-Vaxxer who's DYING Sobs UNCONTROLLABLY cause Hospitals WON'T HELP HER

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Far-Queue 10/20/21 2:36:42 PM #52:	If you're using the liver/kidney/whatever, you're consuming it... definition 1 a : the act or process of consuming consumption of food consumption of resources Human organs are a resource. --- https://imgur.com/ZwO4qO2 "My last bike gave me severe taint pain." - Dikitain <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:959224704] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>If you're using the liver/kidney/whatever, you're consuming it... definition 1 a : the act or process of consuming consumption of food consumption of resources Human organs are a resource. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 10/20/21 2:45:02 PM #53:	ReturnOfFa posted... Does the body 'consume' the kidney? I mean, sure, if it's rejected. I wouldn't call it consumption if it's accepted. In a sense. All of our organs have finite lifespans that we're gradually consuming by using them. In practice, you probably aren't going to fully consume the donor organ, given normal use, but it can be said that you're using it up. I wouldn't actually say that rejection is a matter of consuming it, though. That's just destroying it. "Consume" implies that you gain something by using it up. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:959224989] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>Does the body 'consume' the kidney? I mean, sure, if it's rejected. I wouldn't call it consumption if it's accepted.</quote> In a sense. All of our organs have finite lifespans that we're gradually consuming by using them. In practice, you probably aren't going to fully consume the donor organ, given normal use, but it can be said that you're using it up. I wouldn't actually say that rejection is a matter of consuming it, though. That's just destroying it. "Consume" implies that you gain something by using it up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tony8669 10/20/21 3:37:22 PM #54:	She would get the transplant, then die a few months later from covid, thus wasting a perfectly good liver which could have instead gone to someone who valued living. And it's worth noting, she's not unvaccinated. She's had PLENTY of vaccines over her many decades of life. She's just decided to hate this one vaccine for political, not medical, reasons. <cite>tony8669 posted [p:959226637] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>She would get the transplant, then die a few months later from covid, thus wasting a perfectly good liver which could have instead gone to someone who valued living. And it's worth noting, she's not unvaccinated. She's had PLENTY of vaccines over her many decades of life. She's just decided to hate this one vaccine for political, not medical, reasons. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/20/21 3:45:02 PM #56:	Far-Queue posted... If you're using the liver/kidney/whatever, you're consuming it... definition 1 a : the act or process of consuming consumption of food consumption of resources Human organs are a resource. It is being *transplanted, integrated, or installed* not consumed. In the example quoted, food is consumed - as in the fuel example, all energy is extracted from it until it becomes nothing, or a waste product. That is not what is occuring in a kidney transplant. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:959226868] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>Far-Queue posted... </cite> <quote>If you're using the liver/kidney/whatever, you're consuming it... definition 1 a : the act or process of consuming consumption of food consumption of resources Human organs are a resource.</quote>It is being transplanted, integrated, or installed not consumed. In the example quoted, food is consumed - as in the fuel example, all energy is extracted from it until it becomes nothing, or a waste product. That is not what is occuring in a kidney transplant. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/20/21 3:46:33 PM #57:	adjl posted... In a sense. All of our organs have finite lifespans that we're gradually consuming by using them. In practice, you probably aren't going to fully consume the donor organ, given normal use, but it can be said that you're using it up. I wouldn't actually say that rejection is a matter of consuming it, though. That's just destroying it. "Consume" implies that you gain something by using it up. Hmm, I suppose I see what you're getting at. That would mean I'm consuming my computer right now, and my desk. I don't really think it fits the classic definition, but I can understand that it can be argued. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:959226921] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>In a sense. All of our organs have finite lifespans that we're gradually consuming by using them. In practice, you probably aren't going to fully consume the donor organ, given normal use, but it can be said that you're using it up. I wouldn't actually say that rejection is a matter of consuming it, though. That's just destroying it. "Consume" implies that you gain something by using it up.</quote>Hmm, I suppose I see what you're getting at. That would mean I'm consuming my computer right now, and my desk. I don't really think it fits the classic definition, but I can understand that it can be argued. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 10/20/21 3:46:35 PM #58:	ReturnOfFa posted... You do understand the statistic difference between the likelihood of someone 'spreading' the virus as a vaccinated or an unvaccinated person, right? Right? You do realize that your line of thinking is a clear obfuscation of how vaccines greatly diminish the likelihood of spreading the virus, right? Well, probably wrong actually, just from an observational standpoint and experience with others. If this were true, my double-vaxxed girlfriend wouldnt have been told by the BC health authorities to quarantine for the same two-week period the unvaccinated are given when she tested positive. At some point months after the unvaccinated havent been allowed to go anywhere, including Bad Tattoo (bless them for trying) people are going to have to realise it isnt the unvaccinated that are the problem. --- If the truth is bothersome, then change what's true. <cite>zebatov posted [p:959226923] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>You do understand the statistic difference between the likelihood of someone 'spreading' the virus as a vaccinated or an unvaccinated person, right? Right? You do realize that your line of thinking is a clear obfuscation of how vaccines greatly diminish the likelihood of spreading the virus, right? Well, probably wrong actually, just from an observational standpoint and experience with others.</quote> If this were true, my double-vaxxed girlfriend wouldnt have been told by the BC health authorities to quarantine for the same two-week period the unvaccinated are given when she tested positive. At some point months after the unvaccinated havent been allowed to go anywhere, including Bad Tattoo (bless them for trying) people are going to have to realise it isnt the unvaccinated that are the problem. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/20/21 3:47:35 PM #59:	zebatov posted... If this were true, my double-vaxxed girlfriend wouldnt have been told by the BC health authorities to quarantine for the same two-week period the unvaccinated are given when she tested positive. .... Her chance of getting COVID was still greatly reduced. Now she has COVID. Of course she has to quarantine for two weeks. Where did I state that the length of time someone is contagious would differ? You seem to be conflating two things, one thing that I never brought up or mentioned. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:959226958] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>zebatov posted... </cite> <quote>If this were true, my double-vaxxed girlfriend wouldnt have been told by the BC health authorities to quarantine for the same two-week period the unvaccinated are given when she tested positive.</quote>.... Her chance of getting COVID was still greatly reduced. Now she has COVID. Of course she has to quarantine for two weeks. Where did I state that the length of time someone is contagious would differ? You seem to be conflating two things, one thing that I never brought up or mentioned. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 10/20/21 3:50:54 PM #60:	ReturnOfFa posted... .... Her chance of getting COVID was still greatly reduced. Now she has COVID. Of course she has to quarantine for two weeks. Where did I state that the length of time someone is contagious would differ? You seem to be conflating two things, one thing that I never brought up or mentioned. Can I see your medical degree? Virology? Vaccine background? Decoy77 posted... You do realize that those who have been vaxed are still spreaders and carriers and get sick with it right? Right? @Decoy77 Shhh. You cant use facts here. Perfect response though, because the comment you replied to wasnt about the risk of spreading (still waiting on some medical degrees here) just whether one can or cant. Pretty dumb to call one group spreaders when both can. BlackScythe0 posted... I think it's time to just start reporting them for spamming. They're just copy pasting objectively false statements. Literally everything he said there was a fact. rEpOrT tHeM bEcAuSe I dOnT wIkE tHe WoRdS :( --- If the truth is bothersome, then change what's true. <cite>zebatov posted [p:959227070] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>.... Her chance of getting COVID was still greatly reduced. Now she has COVID. Of course she has to quarantine for two weeks. Where did I state that the length of time someone is contagious would differ? You seem to be conflating two things, one thing that I never brought up or mentioned.</quote> Can I see your medical degree? Virology? Vaccine background? Decoy77 posted... </cite> <quote>You do realize that those who have been vaxed are still spreaders and carriers and get sick with it right? Right?</quote> @Decoy77 Shhh. You cant use facts here. Perfect response though, because the comment you replied to wasnt about the risk of spreading (still waiting on some medical degrees here) just whether one can or cant. Pretty dumb to call one group spreaders when both can. BlackScythe0 posted... </cite> <quote>I think it's time to just start reporting them for spamming. They're just copy pasting objectively false statements.</quote> Literally everything he said there was a fact. rEpOrT tHeM bEcAuSe I dOnT wIkE tHe WoRdS :( </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notschmendrake 10/20/21 4:23:55 PM #61:	adjl literally hitting sunny levels of doubling down on his wrongness <cite>Notschmendrake posted [p:959228154] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>adjl literally hitting sunny levels of doubling down on his wrongness </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 10/20/21 4:30:52 PM #62:	ReturnOfFa posted... .... Her chance of getting COVID was still greatly reduced. Now she has COVID. Of course she has to quarantine for two weeks. Where did I state that the length of time someone is contagious would differ? You seem to be conflating two things, one thing that I never brought up or mentioned. Most evidence does seem to be suggesting that vaccinated people aren't contagious for as long, actually. That hasn't been conclusively quantified, though, so it hasn't been reflected in public health policies yet. Realistically, it probably never will be, since positive people losing an extra week (or whatever) is a minor enough issue that erring on the side of caution is likely going to be the best course of action. Notschmendrake posted... adjl literally hitting sunny levels of doubling down on his wrongness Are you suggesting that equivocating organ transplants with cannibalism might have been slightly facetious? --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:959228371] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>.... Her chance of getting COVID was still greatly reduced. Now she has COVID. Of course she has to quarantine for two weeks. Where did I state that the length of time someone is contagious would differ? You seem to be conflating two things, one thing that I never brought up or mentioned.</quote> Most evidence does seem to be suggesting that vaccinated people aren't contagious for as long, actually. That hasn't been conclusively quantified, though, so it hasn't been reflected in public health policies yet. Realistically, it probably never will be, since positive people losing an extra week (or whatever) is a minor enough issue that erring on the side of caution is likely going to be the best course of action. Notschmendrake posted... </cite> <quote>adjl literally hitting sunny levels of doubling down on his wrongness</quote> Are you suggesting that equivocating organ transplants with cannibalism might have been slightly facetious? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/20/21 5:13:26 PM #63:	zebatov posted... Literally everything he said there was a fact. You're from Canada. You don't know how the Constitution is written. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:959229638] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>zebatov posted...</cite> <quote>Literally everything he said there was a fact.</quote> You're from Canada. You don't know how the Constitution is written.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/20/21 5:23:41 PM #64:	zebatov posted... Can I see your medical degree? Virology? Vaccine background? Right back at you. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:959229940] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>zebatov posted... </cite> <quote>Can I see your medical degree? Virology? Vaccine background?</quote>Right back at you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/20/21 5:27:02 PM #65:	zebatov posted... Can I see your medical degree? Virology? Vaccine background? How long do you think she should have been quarantined for O Wise One? --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:959230043] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>zebatov posted... </cite> <quote>Can I see your medical degree? Virology? Vaccine background?</quote>How long do you think she should have been quarantined for O Wise One? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/20/21 5:27:40 PM #66:	adjl posted... Most evidence does seem to be suggesting that vaccinated people aren't contagious for as long, actually. That hasn't been conclusively quantified, though, so it hasn't been reflected in public health policies yet. Realistically, it probably never will be, since positive people losing an extra week (or whatever) is a minor enough issue that erring on the side of caution is likely going to be the best course of action. Agreed. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:959230065] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>Most evidence does seem to be suggesting that vaccinated people aren't contagious for as long, actually. That hasn't been conclusively quantified, though, so it hasn't been reflected in public health policies yet. Realistically, it probably never will be, since positive people losing an extra week (or whatever) is a minor enough issue that erring on the side of caution is likely going to be the best course of action.</quote>Agreed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sage_assassin20 10/20/21 6:42:52 PM #67:	Thots and playas. <cite>Sage_assassin20 posted [p:959232268] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>Thots and playas. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 10/20/21 6:49:54 PM #68:	ReturnOfFa posted... do you think not vaccinating would be smarter? what's your solution? cast doubt on the efficacy of vaccines and then...what's the end goal? --- i want you, to matter to you forget those backstabbers <cite>helIy posted [p:959232484] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>do you think not vaccinating would be smarter? what's your solution? cast doubt on the efficacy of vaccines and then...what's the end goal?</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 10/20/21 6:51:25 PM #69:	In the example quoted, food is consumed - as in the fuel example, all energy is extracted from it until it becomes nothing, or a waste product. That is not what is occuring in a kidney transplant. Sure it is. A transplanted organ is being used until it is of use no more, either when that organ fails or the recipient dies or whatever. Therefore it is a resource that is being consumed. --- https://imgur.com/ZwO4qO2 "My last bike gave me severe taint pain." - Dikitain <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:959232524] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote><quote>In the example quoted, food is consumed - as in the fuel example, all energy is extracted from it until it becomes nothing, or a waste product. That is not what is occuring in a kidney transplant.</quote>Sure it is. A transplanted organ is being used until it is of use no more, either when that organ fails or the recipient dies or whatever. Therefore it is a resource that is being consumed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 10/20/21 7:02:25 PM #70:	Is this a different one? I don't feel bad for her either. --- https://imgur.com/4ihiyS2 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:959232829] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>Is this a different one? I don't feel bad for her either. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amazingspiderman1 10/20/21 7:18:36 PM #71:	I truly hope the pain she will have to endure will be exquisite and legendary for being a complete fucking moron. --- Gamertag: VenomousRage20x / Dallas Mavericks 2020 - 2021 I really don't know what to think about next season. <cite>Amazingspiderman1 posted [p:959233307] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>I truly hope the pain she will have to endure will be exquisite and legendary for being a complete fucking moron. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArvTheGreat 10/20/21 8:34:14 PM #72:	Amazingspiderman1 posted... I truly hope the pain she will have to endure will be exquisite and legendary for being a complete fucking moron. is calling someone a fucking moron necessary media and society teaches others to black list the other half. why follow that? --- Things are about to get arvified <cite>ArvTheGreat posted [p:959235621] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>Amazingspiderman1 posted... </cite> <quote>I truly hope the pain she will have to endure will be exquisite and legendary for being a complete fucking moron.</quote> is calling someone a fucking moron necessary media and society teaches others to black list the other half. why follow that? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/20/21 8:43:11 PM #73:	Jen0125 posted... Is this a different one? I don't feel bad for her either. Apparently, its happened to multiple people But I also dont really feel bad All they have to do is get the shot --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:959235878] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>Is this a different one? I don't feel bad for her either. </quote> Apparently, its happened to multiple people But I also dont really feel bad All they have to do is get the shot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 10/20/21 9:11:22 PM #74:	Shhh, Arv, adults are talking --- In my opinion, all slavery is wrong, even the really fancy kind - Mead <cite>Zareth posted [p:959236619] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>Shhh, Arv, adults are talking </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RosiePowers 10/21/21 2:15:34 AM #75:	Absolute appalling how people are treating each other on both ends of this debate. <cite>RosiePowers posted [p:959243174] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>Absolute appalling how people are treating each other on both ends of this debate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Conner4REAL 10/21/21 6:09:08 AM #76:	Just wait until life insurance premiums Start taking into account vaccination status. As well as Insurers charging a surcharge or changing what factors they can change in order to shift costs of care for the unvaccinated to the unvaccinated. also when pcr testing starts to become out of pocket for them as states stop covering the cost of investigative testing and insurances wont cover it because it is not going to be deemed medically Necessary. then the anti-vax crowd will all start to feel the crunch. transplant seekers are not even facing a change in regulations or standards merely an application of pre covid guidelines designed to maximize the effectiveness of the transplant. if she gets the transplant then dies as an at risk recipient covid would make her she has effectively killed a person who would have gotten that organ but did the right thing. --- "I pet my dog I don't eat it" ~ Lemone <cite>Conner4REAL posted [p:959245690] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>Just wait until life insurance premiums Start taking into account vaccination status. As well as Insurers charging a surcharge or changing what factors they can change in order to shift costs of care for the unvaccinated to the unvaccinated. also when pcr testing starts to become out of pocket for them as states stop covering the cost of investigative testing and insurances wont cover it because it is not going to be deemed medically Necessary. then the anti-vax crowd will all start to feel the crunch. transplant seekers are not even facing a change in regulations or standards merely an application of pre covid guidelines designed to maximize the effectiveness of the transplant. if she gets the transplant then dies as an at risk recipient covid would make her she has effectively killed a person who would have gotten that organ but did the right thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Conner4REAL 10/21/21 6:18:30 AM #77:	RosiePowers posted... Absolute appalling how people are treating each other on both ends of this debate. thwre are not two sides. there is one side that is using logic reason scientific data and facts and then a bunch of people using ???? To avoid doing the right thing and encourage others to do the wrong thing. im not talking about those extremely rare few w a genuine medical condition. a part of our personal freedom of choice is accepting the responsibility and consequences of that choice, this woman and those like her are making a conscious choice and dont want to accept the responsibility for the consequences or their actions and choice. if her attitude was ok Im chosing not to get the vaccine, my choice I accept responsibility for that choice and am off the transplant list due to my choice and that is totally and completely fair right and reasonable then fine. Thats different. she is not. She thinks she should not be held to the responsibility of her choices. And what is even more crazy is that she has the opportunity to see the reusilts in advance and an opportunity to change her mind yet still refuses to do so. --- "I pet my dog I don't eat it" ~ Lemone <cite>Conner4REAL posted [p:959245779] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>RosiePowers posted... </cite> <quote>Absolute appalling how people are treating each other on both ends of this debate.</quote> thwre are not two sides. there is one side that is using logic reason scientific data and facts and then a bunch of people using ???? To avoid doing the right thing and encourage others to do the wrong thing. im not talking about those extremely rare few w a genuine medical condition. a part of our personal freedom of choice is accepting the responsibility and consequences of that choice, this woman and those like her are making a conscious choice and dont want to accept the responsibility for the consequences or their actions and choice. if her attitude was ok Im chosing not to get the vaccine, my choice I accept responsibility for that choice and am off the transplant list due to my choice and that is totally and completely fair right and reasonable then fine. Thats different. she is not. She thinks she should not be held to the responsibility of her choices. And what is even more crazy is that she has the opportunity to see the reusilts in advance and an opportunity to change her mind yet still refuses to do so. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 10/21/21 3:25:37 PM #78:	ReturnOfFa posted... Right back at you. So you understand then. The only difference is you have trouble with critical thinking. ReturnOfFa posted... How long do you think she should have been quarantined for O Wise One? The same two weeks because shes just as contagious. Heres the number for BC Health Link: 1 (866) 215-4700. Call them and ask yourself. I just did, and they verified what I said is true. Youre still contagious, you just might not get as sick if vaccinated. And studies have shown that people who have already had Covid have a much stronger immunity because theyve had the actual virus in their system versus something the vaccine which does not contain the virus. Revelation34 posted... You're from Canada. You don't know how the Constitution is written. That doesnt make sense. Conner4REAL posted... thwre are not two sides. there is one side that is using logic reason scientific data and facts Yeah, the people not getting it. If this was a real pandemic, you wouldnt have to coerce anyone to get it. If they cared about health and safety for others, smoking wouldnt be legal. We have all the scientific data on that. --- If the truth is bothersome, then change what's true. <cite>zebatov posted [p:959258634] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>Right back at you.</quote> So you understand then. The only difference is you have trouble with critical thinking. ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>How long do you think she should have been quarantined for O Wise One?</quote> The same two weeks because shes just as contagious. Heres the number for BC Health Link: 1 (866) 215-4700. Call them and ask yourself. I just did, and they verified what I said is true. Youre still contagious, you just might not get as sick if vaccinated. And studies have shown that people who have already had Covid have a much stronger immunity because theyve had the actual virus in their system versus something the vaccine which does not contain the virus. Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>You're from Canada. You don't know how the Constitution is written.</quote> That doesnt make sense. Conner4REAL posted... </cite> <quote>thwre are not two sides. there is one side that is using logic reason scientific data and facts</quote> Yeah, the people not getting it. If this was a real pandemic, you wouldnt have to coerce anyone to get it. If they cared about health and safety for others, smoking wouldnt be legal. We have all the scientific data on that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfernalFive 10/21/21 6:21:27 PM #79:	My comment got moderated but it's still true. People that reject science like this literally are the definition of useless. Mod me again I don't really care, doesn't change the fact that these antivax morons are a drain on society. --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyfabsU4xH1qzy531o1_500.jpg https://imgur.com/ggCrHk8 <cite>InfernalFive posted [p:959263848] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>My comment got moderated but it's still true. People that reject science like this literally are the definition of useless. Mod me again I don't really care, doesn't change the fact that these antivax morons are a drain on society. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/21/21 6:22:21 PM #80:	InfernalFive posted... My comment got moderated but it's still true. People that reject science like this literally are the definition of useless. Mod me again I don't really care, doesn't change the fact that these antivax morons are a drain on society. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:959263868] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>InfernalFive posted... </cite> <quote>My comment got moderated but it's still true. People that reject science like this literally are the definition of useless. Mod me again I don't really care, doesn't change the fact that these antivax morons are a drain on society.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/21/21 6:25:47 PM #81:	zebatov posted... The same two weeks because shes just as contagious. Heres the number for BC Health Link: 1 (866) 215-4700. Call them and ask yourself. I just did, and they verified what I said is true. Youre still contagious, you just might not get as sick if vaccinated. And studies have shown that people who have already had Covid have a much stronger immunity because theyve had the actual virus in their system versus something the vaccine which does not contain the virus. Right, you seemed to be acting as if she would be contagious for less long earlier. We agree that someone should still be quarantined for two weeks, great. Nobody's being coerced, they're being told to. It's like being told to wear a seatbelt. Fine, you can call getting ticketed 'coercion', but this is safe and it's for public health. End of story. As far as you saying that someone that has had the virus has 'stronger immunity', - sure, your girlfriend does because she also has the vaccine. the Virus does not inherently give 'stronger immunity'. I don't know why you're trying to act like you know things. https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/why-covid-19-vaccines-offer-better-protection-than-infection --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:959263950] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>zebatov posted... </cite> <quote> The same two weeks because shes just as contagious. Heres the number for BC Health Link: 1 (866) 215-4700. Call them and ask yourself. I just did, and they verified what I said is true. Youre still contagious, you just might not get as sick if vaccinated. And studies have shown that people who have already had Covid have a much stronger immunity because theyve had the actual virus in their system versus something the vaccine which does not contain the virus.</quote>Right, you seemed to be acting as if she would be contagious for less long earlier. We agree that someone should still be quarantined for two weeks, great. Nobody's being coerced, they're being told to. It's like being told to wear a seatbelt. Fine, you can call getting ticketed 'coercion', but this is safe and it's for public health. End of story. As far as you saying that someone that has had the virus has 'stronger immunity', - sure, your girlfriend does because she also has the vaccine. the Virus does not inherently give 'stronger immunity'. I don't know why you're trying to act like you know things. https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/why-covid-19-vaccines-offer-better-protection-than-infection </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/21/21 6:26:24 PM #82:	RosiePowers posted... Absolute appalling how people are treating each other on both ends of this debate. Do I have to patiently listen to someone telling me for the better part of a year something they haven't bothered to understand? --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:959263972] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>RosiePowers posted... </cite> <quote>Absolute appalling how people are treating each other on both ends of this debate.</quote>Do I have to patiently listen to someone telling me for the better part of a year something they haven't bothered to understand? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/21/21 6:27:20 PM #83:	ArvTheGreat posted... is calling someone a fucking moron necessary media and society teaches others to black list the other half. why follow that? we're making fun of an old lady via a video game forum. calling her a fucking moron has 0 effect --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:959263993] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>ArvTheGreat posted... </cite> <quote>is calling someone a fucking moron necessary media and society teaches others to black list the other half. why follow that?</quote>we're making fun of an old lady via a video game forum. calling her a fucking moron has 0 effect </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 10/21/21 11:10:57 PM #84:	ReturnOfFa posted... Right, you seemed to be acting as if she would be contagious for less long earlier. We agree that someone should still be quarantined for two weeks, great. Nobody's being coerced, they're being told to. It's like being told to wear a seatbelt. Fine, you can call getting ticketed 'coercion', but this is safe and it's for public health. End of story. As far as you saying that someone that has had the virus has 'stronger immunity', - sure, your girlfriend does because she also has the vaccine. the Virus does not inherently give 'stronger immunity'. I don't know why you're trying to act like you know things. https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/why-covid-19-vaccines-offer-better-protection-than-infection I said she had to quarantine for the same amount of time as the unvaccinated do, which means shes just as contagious. So obviously the vaccine only protects the people who get it and not those who dont. And if thats the case, I dont see the issue. The government is using coercion to encourage people to get vaccinated. Things like not allowing unvaccinated to go anywhere public with a liquor license, or even leave the country as of October 30th. The last one is illegal and also makes no sense. If other countries are willing to accept unvaccinated, and unvaccinated are the problem, then the government should be encouraging them to leave, not illegally forcing them to stay. I can share words too! https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1 --- If the truth is bothersome, then change what's true. <cite>zebatov posted [p:959271465] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>Right, you seemed to be acting as if she would be contagious for less long earlier. We agree that someone should still be quarantined for two weeks, great. Nobody's being coerced, they're being told to. It's like being told to wear a seatbelt. Fine, you can call getting ticketed 'coercion', but this is safe and it's for public health. End of story. As far as you saying that someone that has had the virus has 'stronger immunity', - sure, your girlfriend does because she also has the vaccine. the Virus does not inherently give 'stronger immunity'. I don't know why you're trying to act like you know things. https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/why-covid-19-vaccines-offer-better-protection-than-infection</quote> I said she had to quarantine for the same amount of time as the unvaccinated do, which means shes just as contagious. So obviously the vaccine only protects the people who get it and not those who dont. And if thats the case, I dont see the issue. The government is using coercion to encourage people to get vaccinated. Things like not allowing unvaccinated to go anywhere public with a liquor license, or even leave the country as of October 30th. The last one is illegal and also makes no sense. If other countries are willing to accept unvaccinated, and unvaccinated are the problem, then the government should be encouraging them to leave, not illegally forcing them to stay. I can share words too! https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/21/21 11:43:55 PM #85:	zebatov posted... I said she had to quarantine for the same amount of time as the unvaccinated do, which means shes just as contagious. So obviously the vaccine only protects the people who get it and not those who dont. And if thats the case, I dont see the issue. The government is using coercion to encourage people to get vaccinated. Things like not allowing unvaccinated to go anywhere public with a liquor license, or even leave the country as of October 30th. The last one is illegal and also makes no sense. If other countries are willing to accept unvaccinated, and unvaccinated are the problem, then the government should be encouraging them to leave, not illegally forcing them to stay. I can share words too! https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1 Conflicting studies don't mean you're right, they mean that it's variable. Your logic hurts. Deporting the unvaccinated is a better idea than mandating it? No, no it isn't. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:959272232] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>zebatov posted... </cite> <quote>I said she had to quarantine for the same amount of time as the unvaccinated do, which means shes just as contagious. So obviously the vaccine only protects the people who get it and not those who dont. And if thats the case, I dont see the issue. The government is using coercion to encourage people to get vaccinated. Things like not allowing unvaccinated to go anywhere public with a liquor license, or even leave the country as of October 30th. The last one is illegal and also makes no sense. If other countries are willing to accept unvaccinated, and unvaccinated are the problem, then the government should be encouraging them to leave, not illegally forcing them to stay. I can share words too! https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1</quote>Conflicting studies don't mean you're right, they mean that it's variable. Your logic hurts. Deporting the unvaccinated is a better idea than mandating it? No, no it isn't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/22/21 10:27:28 AM #86:	zebatov posted... That doesnt make sense. Then you clearly never read the post you said was correct about everything. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:959281567] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>zebatov posted...</cite> <quote>That doesnt make sense.</quote> Then you clearly never read the post you said was correct about everything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 10/22/21 10:56:01 AM #87:	zebatov posted... I said she had to quarantine for the same amount of time as the unvaccinated do, which means shes just as contagious. That's pretty flimsy logic. All that means is that the government recognizes that vaccinated people still pose a significant transmission risk and hasn't bothered coming up with new regulations to fine-tune their isolation time. As mentioned above, that's to be expected, given that conclusive quantitative data is hard to come by (and is constantly evolving as the variant profile changes) and there's little harm in erring on the side of caution. It does not in any way support the conclusion that vaccinated people are equally contagious. zebatov posted... And studies have shown that people who have already had Covid have a much stronger immunity because theyve had the actual virus in their system versus something the vaccine which does not contain the virus. https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/covid-19-studies-natural-immunity-versus-vaccination (links to several actual studies) https://healthydebate.ca/2021/10/topic/how-good-natural-immunity-covid/ (links to several conflicting studies) https://globalnews.ca/news/8229808/covid-vaccine-natural-immunity-fact-check/ (links to several more studies) While the available data is constantly evolving, especially as variants shake things up, the bottom line seems to be that vaccination gives better, more consistent immunity on average. However, this comparison is completely pointless: Vaccination and natural immunity are in no way mutually exclusive, nor is deliberately getting infected for the sake of developing immunity without a vaccine ever going to be a good idea. The available data unanimously indicates that getting vaccinated after being infected improves your immunity, regardless of how strong your natural immune response ended up being. Quite simply, you will never have to choose between natural immunity and vaccine immunity, nor is there ever going to be a reason to choose the former over the latter (even for people that are allergic to the vaccine, deliberately becoming infected for immunity's sake is likely to do more harm than good, so they should pursue other methods for avoiding infection). zebatov posted... The government is using coercion to encourage people to get vaccinated. Things like not allowing unvaccinated to go anywhere public with a liquor license, or even leave the country as of October 30th. That's not coercion. That's offering special privileges to the vaccinated, based on the additional safety they bring to the world around them. That they're privileges you took for granted in a pre-pandemic world doesn't change that. zebatov posted... If this was a real pandemic, you wouldn't have to coerce people to get it. Man, you're really on a roll with jumping to illogical conclusions here. That people are refusing the vaccine does not in any way suggest that there's no real pandemic, let alone conclusively indicate it. By and large, people are scientifically illiterate and bad at risk analysis, especially when it comes to dealing with something that's as scary and upsetting as the greatest public health crisis in a century (ignorance and denial are pretty comforting in situations like this). That's why they've convinced themselves that the vaccine is more dangerous than the virus, helped along by widespread fearmongering about the vaccines and the extent to which "I don't want to do anything to stop the pandemic" has become a matter of political identity. That opinion indicates absolutely nothing about the virus' actual danger. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:959282272] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>zebatov posted... <quote>I said she had to quarantine for the same amount of time as the unvaccinated do, which means shes just as contagious.</quote> That's pretty flimsy logic. All that means is that the government recognizes that vaccinated people still pose a significant transmission risk and hasn't bothered coming up with new regulations to fine-tune their isolation time. As mentioned above, that's to be expected, given that conclusive quantitative data is hard to come by (and is constantly evolving as the variant profile changes) and there's little harm in erring on the side of caution. It does not in any way support the conclusion that vaccinated people are equally contagious. zebatov posted... <quote>And studies have shown that people who have already had Covid have a much stronger immunity because theyve had the actual virus in their system versus something the vaccine which does not contain the virus.</quote> https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/covid-19-studies-natural-immunity-versus-vaccination (links to several actual studies) https://healthydebate.ca/2021/10/topic/how-good-natural-immunity-covid/ (links to several conflicting studies) https://globalnews.ca/news/8229808/covid-vaccine-natural-immunity-fact-check/ (links to several more studies) While the available data is constantly evolving, especially as variants shake things up, the bottom line seems to be that vaccination gives better, more consistent immunity on average. However, this comparison is completely pointless: Vaccination and natural immunity are in no way mutually exclusive, nor is deliberately getting infected for the sake of developing immunity without a vaccine ever going to be a good idea. The available data unanimously indicates that getting vaccinated after being infected improves your immunity, regardless of how strong your natural immune response ended up being. Quite simply, you will never have to choose between natural immunity and vaccine immunity, nor is there ever going to be a reason to choose the former over the latter (even for people that are allergic to the vaccine, deliberately becoming infected for immunity's sake is likely to do more harm than good, so they should pursue other methods for avoiding infection). zebatov posted... <quote>The government is using coercion to encourage people to get vaccinated. Things like not allowing unvaccinated to go anywhere public with a liquor license, or even leave the country as of October 30th.</quote> That's not coercion. That's offering special privileges to the vaccinated, based on the additional safety they bring to the world around them. That they're privileges you took for granted in a pre-pandemic world doesn't change that. zebatov posted... <quote>If this was a real pandemic, you wouldn't have to coerce people to get it.</quote> Man, you're really on a roll with jumping to illogical conclusions here. That people are refusing the vaccine does not in any way suggest that there's no real pandemic, let alone conclusively indicate it. By and large, people are scientifically illiterate and bad at risk analysis, especially when it comes to dealing with something that's as scary and upsetting as the greatest public health crisis in a century (ignorance and denial are pretty comforting in situations like this). That's why they've convinced themselves that the vaccine is more dangerous than the virus, helped along by widespread fearmongering about the vaccines and the extent to which "I don't want to do anything to stop the pandemic" has become a matter of political identity. That opinion indicates absolutely nothing about the virus' actual danger. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 10/22/21 11:00:09 PM #88:	ReturnOfFa posted... Conflicting studies don't mean you're right, they mean that it's variable. Your logic hurts. Deporting the unvaccinated is a better idea than mandating it? No, no it isn't. I never said anything about deporting people at all. I said its stupid and illegal to force people to stay. --- If the truth is bothersome, then change what's true. <cite>zebatov posted [p:959302230] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>Conflicting studies don't mean you're right, they mean that it's variable. Your logic hurts. Deporting the unvaccinated is a better idea than mandating it? No, no it isn't.</quote> I never said anything about deporting people at all. I said its stupid and illegal to force people to stay. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 10/29/21 4:59:36 PM #89:	zebatov posted... I never said anything about deporting people at all. I said its stupid and illegal to force people to stay. Why didnt you respond to any of adjls post? <cite>Cacciato posted [p:959510908] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>zebatov posted... </cite> <quote>I never said anything about deporting people at all. I said its stupid and illegal to force people to stay.</quote>Why didnt you respond to any of adjls post? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 10/29/21 5:37:13 PM #90:	He's not smart enough to --- https://imgur.com/ZwO4qO2 "My last bike gave me severe taint pain." - Dikitain <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:959511920] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>He's not smart enough to </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 10/29/21 8:23:51 PM #91:	Far-Queue posted... He's not smart enough to Ah. Occams Razor strikes again. <cite>Cacciato posted [p:959516536] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>Far-Queue posted... </cite> <quote>He's not smart enough to</quote>Ah. Occams Razor strikes again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 10/29/21 9:51:06 PM #92:	He's got me blocked because he got tired of me pointing out how he's wrong every time he posts. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:959519143] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>He's got me blocked because he got tired of me pointing out how he's wrong every time he posts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/30/21 11:43:28 AM #93:	adjl posted... He's got me blocked because he got tired of me pointing out how he's wrong every time he posts. He probably put me on ignore after pointing out why the comment he said was right was completely false. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:959533117] in Ohio Anti-... [t:79717601]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>He's got me blocked because he got tired of me pointing out how he's wrong every time he posts. </quote> He probably put me on ignore after pointing out why the comment he said was right was completely false.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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