Board 8 > The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles Review Zone

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Case 5, the game finally has me genuinely in shocking confusion for the first time since it began.

Green blood on the Music Disk, absolutely no idea where that could be going.

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That's not even supposed to be a point of confusion

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Yeah it literally all fell together like 2 minutes later and all the hype dropped. Spoke too soon.

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I'm not saying that it's aliens

Because it's not aliens

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Case GAA1-5 spoilers
Wow, youtube comments can be really good sometimes. I didn't even realize it but the final case's culprit could've easily just pinned the blame on the Skulkins and say he took their gun away. Instead he did it the hard way and negotiated info with Gregson in order to pin it on Gina instead. It's an incredibly subtle way to show that he still cares for the Skulkin brothers.

Also as people have said, the first game seems almost entirely just to set up the characters and plot points for the second game since the entirety of the first game is beginner-mid case levels.
The actual cases and plots are very simple and easy but it's made up by its strong characterization. I liked Kazuma and Susato way more than Mia and Maya.
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I'm so fucking mad, just say where the blood came from. Why is this a thing Jesus fucking christ.

Like I'm sure there a reason they can't in terms of gameplay, but this is what I was talking a out with how he wrote this game with answers and then had to go back and slot in how to get there.

I'm just gonna edit this post for now to try and be the least annoying about this as possible but it's actually taking a lot of effort for me to finish this game. The final trial is pretty damn bad.

The peephole in the anime cutscene had a fucking handle on it you dumbass game.

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https://ibb.co/Ln6WYPq

Never mind about this being totally fine, just not a great AA game. I actually just hate it.

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Case G1-5 Spoilers

I'm so glad I didn't have to bother with another fucking jury examination in that last sequence.

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It's finally over. I've cooled down a lot but yeah...that final trial is baaaaad. The cat doorifyer or whatever is probably the worst mcguffin in the series, what dumb bullshit.

I had hoped the final case would be some kind of amazing saving grace, but naw, this is definitely the worst game in the series quite easily. I'm still going to go right into GAA2, just because I already own it...but I'm pretty sure if these hadn't been sold as a collection I likely just would not buy the second one after beating the first.

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Welp, 5 minutes into GAA2 before going to bed and were at least off to an interesting start!

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Welp, 5 minutes into GAA2 before going to bed and were at least off to an ingesting start!

Don't eat your game!

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<_<

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Based on concept of this first trial alone, I'm already way more invested in GAA2, though if the culprit is already who I'm thinking it might be based on a visual queue on one of the very first pieces of evidence you get I will be slightly annoyed.

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My physical ps4 version finally arrived


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Finished the first one.

Overall, an exceptionally pleasant experience. I'm mad at myself for believing this was a bad game due to some comments here and elsewhere. It started out kind of rough but by the end of it I was fully loving these characters. The way this game handles Susato is amazing.

I will say that Case 5 and the spectrograph stuff made me feel like something was wrong with me. I've never been able to cross my eyes my entire life, so it was frustrating having to just let the game solve the puzzles for me.

Looking forward to starting GAA2 soon!

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Spectrograph stuff and how disgustingly overused it was seems like a 3DS remnant.

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I managed to do the stereoscope stuff by using handheld mode and focusing on my reflection then steadily moving my focus back to the images.

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Ugh (first game spoilers)
They hype the prosecutor so much during the first game and it actually never delivers
I really hope it does in the second game

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Considering they only hype the prosecutor on one account and that's the fact that people DIE MYSTERIOUSLY when he gets involved is that you saying that you hope more of your clients die in the 2nd game lol

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Just finished G2-2. Depending on how the rest of GAA2 goes, this might actually be as good as PW3. If youre a huge Ace Attorney fan, I really think you need to try GAA2, regardless of your opinion on GAA1.

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Got past the first part of GA2-3

Still boggles my mind that Gina is older than Susato

Some fun van Zieks moments too

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Finished G2-2. It's at least in the discussion for best case 2 in the series, even if it only has 2 real competitors. With this and a pretty good case 1, things are looking up for GAA2!

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There's only one answer for best second case, and it's not G2-2

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I feel like I'm in the minority in not really liking G2-2. With one exception, I found the characters rather grating.

G2-3 was much better IMO, and while I'm not done with it yet, G2-4 has thus far been exceptional.

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Leonhart4 posted...

There's only one answer for best second case, and it's not G2-2

I mean yeah it's probably not as good as 6-2 or 3-2, but it's not to be dismissed outright.

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3-2 is arguably the best non-epic case, and while G2-2 is good, it's not in that discussion.

(5-2 > 6-2)

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People talk about 3rd case syndrome but I realized that I had a harder time coming up with a top tier 2nd case than I did 3rd case

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5-2 what.

I mean I don't hate it, but...maybe 4th place? And that's arguably my favorite AA game!

3rd case syndrome is heavily overstated. Like, neither DD nor SoJ had a terrible 3rd case. In face, DD's is super good!

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Third cases are by and large very good. It just became a thing because of 2-3 being the weak link of the OT for a lot of people. And 3-3 is arguably the weakest T&T case, but that just speaks to how good that game is.

4-3 is the worst case in the series though.

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It's mostly that the third cases were either bad (2-3, 4-3, E1-3) or good, but still one of the worse cases in the game (1-3, 3-3) for the first five games in the series, so third case syndrome became a thing even though third cases have been really good in every game since.
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5-2's great because it has such a strong and memorable introduction to Blackquill and the murder mystery is surprisingly really good. I feel like I like it more on each playthrough I do of it.

Case 2 is definitely more and more of the weak link as the series goes on. 3-2, 5-2, and G2-2 are my favorites right now.

I always thought Case 3 syndrome is more about the case being in a weird non-traditional setting than it being bad!

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Yeah, just outdated I guess. The 3rd case is even the best one in GAA1, though that speaks more to how weak that game is than how good that case is. The opposite of the AA3 situation.

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If anything third case syndrome applies more to Danganronpa than Ace Attorney

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I need to replay SoJ again. I remember 6-2 being really good. Hopefully that's not just pro Trucy bias.

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

I need to replay SoJ again. I remember 6-2 being really good. Hopefully that's not just pro Trucy bias.

I enjoyed 6-2 because to an extent I agreed with the culprit. The Gramaryes are terrible people and they deserve to be remembered as such

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hombad46 posted...

If anything third case syndrome applies more to Danganronpa than Ace Attorney

Even Ultra Despair Girls couldn't escape it!

DRV3-3 gets more hate than it deserves but it's certainly the low point for that game. And DR1-3 and DR2-3 are indeed garbo.

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I would take 4-3 over DR1-3 and DR2-3 without a question

at least 4-3 has the sound board

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1-3 is a top ten case

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4-3 has some real dumb and repetitive shit in it but there's also some really neat stuff. I don't want to say it gets more hate than it deserves since it IS bad as a full package, but it's not just pure pain.

Compare to 2-3, which is so bad that the game can follow it up with 2-4 yet still be the worst game in the series.

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Leonhart4 posted...

1-3 is a top ten case

https://youtu.be/TgFfuZ-E2Rs

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2-3 is way overhated and is way better than 4-3. I don't hate everything about 4-3, but it's the one case where the charge against the defendant makes zero sense and Apollo is completely and utterly incapable of pointing out ANY of the obvious flaws.

And 1-3 is when I fell in love with the series, so I will defend it to the death.

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I'm actually rather surprised to see 5-2 and 3-2 praise. They're some of my least favorite cases and in ranking lists they don't tend to rank very high either.
Besides the obligatory detective, 3-2 functionally only had two characters, one being the defendant, to cross-examine and both were in both trial days. Also, the defendant and his wife get no comeuppance for their criminal behavior and are implied to still be committing heists in the future. The victim is extremely bland and from what little we know of him he was unlikeable. Only saving point is that the villain is one of the better ones with a great final testimony but that doesn't make up for the rest of the case. I guess it's nice to see Adrian happy too but that's not really a trait of 3-2 itself.

5-2... can be summed up with this.
http://i.imgur.com/h9zRgBt.jpg

It's actually the worst case in the series for me. The villain and his accomplice (who doesn't seem to be punished for his crimes) are gutter tier characters and I didn't really like the Tenmas either. Blackquill is ok but I liked him in other cases more.

My ranking of 2nd cases would be I2-2>6-2=GAA2-2>2-2>I-2>Layton-2>>>GAA1-2>4-2>>>3-2>1-2>5-2.
I2-2 is top tier. One of the only cases in the series that I didn't get who the culprit was until the very end and the first instance of a culprit being the victim. 6-2 and GAA2-2 is amazing as people have said.
2-2 builds up the Fey arc with 3-5 being nowhere near as good if 2-2 didn't exist and the villain is rather sympathetic. Breaking down Von Karma for the first time is also a great moment. I-2 is ok, an airplane is a fun setting, the villain is pretty good, and the "defendant" is also pretty good. Layton-2 is... kind of generic looking back but it's the first time you're introduced to the multiple witnesses at a time mechanic and the spellbook was neat. Fun villain who is important later too. GAA1-2 has no trial and a very unsatisfying ending and lamest death ever which is made up for later at least. The pure tragedy of it does make for pretty good reaction vids though. 4-2 is 2-2 but worse due an inferior defendant and irrelevance to the overall story. Looking back, 1-2 is a complete joke case with a joke culprit, Edgeworth implied to be willing to forge evidence which is later retconned, and Phoenix basically losing despite the braindead culprit and needing a deus ex machina ghost to carry him. It being the 2nd case in the series and being an intro to investigations, Gumshoes, and Maya are what gives it an edge above 5-2.

Speaking of 3rd cases though. Layton-3 is easily the best case in the game by far and top 5 case in the series for me. Takumi really learned how to do 3rd cases after AJ. Yamazaki with AAI2 to an extent too.
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L-3 is indeed excellent. E2-3 is my favorite third case, but L-3 is a worthy choice.

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Tbh I've forgotten most of the details of 5-2. I mainly remember it for Night Night Alderman~

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5-2 is great for Apollo vs. Blackquill, something we didn't get enough of in DD.

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I thought 5-2 was mostly a sleeper until the TWEEST which was legit amusing. Also that scene was one of the only instances where Confess the Truth plays in DD and that's a pretty epic song lol

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Eh, yeah, 3-2 has its flaws, but I don't really care. I love Ron, I love Atmey, and I love the set-up of the crime too much.

E2-2, if it was more polished, would probably be my top Case 2. Unfortunately, it's definitely a case that suffers from dialogue bloat and a lack of charisma among the characters.

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Then00bAvenger posted...

I thought 5-2 was mostly a sleeper until the TWEEST which was legit amusing. Also that scene was one of the only instances where Confess the Truth plays in DD and that's a pretty epic song lol

Did it play in 5-2? Haven't played DD in awhile but off the top of my head I remember it being played during Case 1 culprit's confession, and Case 5 black psyche locks twice.. Maybe at the ending of Case 4 too?
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Yeah it actually kicks in right at the same time they reveal the main twist and Apollo starts explaining the whole convoluted situation lol

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Confess the Truth plays in every case, but it's definitely used more sparingly than other games.

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