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Zigzagoon
08/01/21 1:36:26 PM
#451:


Also only a few wins away from Master now. I'm sure it'll be easier said than done though D:

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Zigzagoon
08/01/21 1:39:44 PM
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As a note, at these ranks it's clear why no one runs Absol on serious teams. You literally just have to play safe the first 3 minutes and he becomes almost obsolete for the rest of the game. Absol NEEDS an early lead and level 9 for Drednaw. But at these ranks, people just get the camps and then sit on their point and do nothing else until objectives come up. It makes it almost impossible to gank.

I've had to resort to clearing my camps and heading into their jungle to try and 1v1 the enemy jungler before he shouts on his comms to his teammates that I'm there. Sometimes I'm able to get the kill and get out in time... but sometimes not.

At least a benefit is that if my own team is actually watching (which is rare), they might come as well and we'll have a right ol hootenanny in the middle where everyone's level 3-4

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Forceful_Dragon
08/01/21 1:45:55 PM
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Zigzagoon posted...
I'm quite positive the winning team or top 3-5 teams will have team comps that consist of...

Cinderace
Eldegoss
Snorlax
Lucario
AlolanNinetales/Pikachu/Gardevoir/Gengar

Final spot is a bit of a toss up, could be any of a few good damage dealers. But I feel like those top 4 are almost a lock for any actual serious team.


I'm beginning to think gardevoir might be more core than lucario in a meta comp. She can control space very well in a stand off even without her ult, but when her ult is up she can just wipe an entire team with minimal support.

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Zigzagoon
08/01/21 1:47:32 PM
#454:


Yeah you might be right. I think Lucario is stronger early on but Gardevoir's late is just stupid good.

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GANON1025
08/01/21 2:03:45 PM
#455:


I'm strongly considering buying Snorlax or Eldegoss next, I don't think there's any way to get them for free right?

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Forceful_Dragon
08/01/21 2:05:29 PM
#456:


I donut believe so but even if you buy something that you are given later you will get a refund in coins.

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Waluigi1
08/01/21 3:01:59 PM
#457:


Why do you hate Gengar

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Forceful_Dragon
08/01/21 3:05:51 PM
#458:


Gengar stops being as overpowered at higher levels of play.

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Zigzagoon
08/01/21 3:10:52 PM
#459:


He's still really good. Just not quite as good.

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CelesMyUserName
08/01/21 3:24:43 PM
#460:


I hate dearly when a hex misses

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KamikazePotato
08/01/21 3:33:13 PM
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The main thing holding Gengar back is the control scheme. He would be SO broken on a Keyboard + Mouse setup where you don't have to worry about Hex autotargeting random non-Sludged targets. Team cohesion and CC shut him down as well, but you'd be able to mostly get around that with instant Hex clicks.

Maybe I'm missing something about Lucario, but he doesn't seem very strong after the first 4-5 minutes.

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Waluigi1
08/01/21 3:44:09 PM
#462:


I fucking hate Lucario. Why does he get so much damage and shields??

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Zigzagoon
08/01/21 3:46:48 PM
#463:


I mean, Lucario one shots me with his two abilities early AND late game.

Sure I'm an Asbol, but I can't one shot him sooooo.... I need like 3 Pursuit back attacks and probably at least 2 of them to crit.

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GANON1025
08/01/21 3:52:47 PM
#464:


Oh my god, yes, sludging someone and then hexing the wrong person is super frustrating as Gengar.. and it happens more often than I'd like

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skullbone
08/01/21 3:53:33 PM
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Yeah I just played a few games as Lucario and really regret buying Machamp instead of him. Lucario is really cuckoo

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Grand Kirby
08/01/21 3:55:09 PM
#466:


It's great when I'm trying to feed off the wild pokemon and Gengar teleports through a wall in the opposite direction and attacks into a group of enemies from the other team.

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Zigzagoon
08/01/21 4:01:46 PM
#467:


I wouldn't be surprised to see Machamp in top tier team play either. He's very strong

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red13n
08/01/21 4:32:41 PM
#468:


Waluigi1 posted...
I fucking hate Lucario. Why does he get so much damage and shields??

The shields really arent that much. Hes still really squishy. But he'll crush a squishy target and assassinate tanks at about 50%.

His ult can be really awful too.

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Waluigi1
08/01/21 4:46:12 PM
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Well all I know is it's enough to almost always win a 1v1. At least against the ones I play.

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KamikazePotato
08/01/21 4:47:30 PM
#470:


Lucario is a 1 v 1 monster. I just don't think he contributes as much in teamfights.

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GANON1025
08/01/21 5:17:58 PM
#471:


So which characters are the absolute worst? I have a feeling Talonflame is up (down?) there

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Zigzagoon
08/01/21 5:20:25 PM
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KamikazePotato
08/01/21 5:25:12 PM
#473:


Venusaur is easily the worst in the game. Talonflame and Charizard aren't much better.

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Zigzagoon
08/01/21 5:27:39 PM
#474:


Oh yeah Wigglytuff sucks too

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GANON1025
08/01/21 5:29:24 PM
#475:


Ive had decent success with Charizard but I cant say hes particularly strong

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KamikazePotato
08/01/21 5:36:48 PM
#476:


Man the second I hit Masters it's been rough. One game with an afk, one game with two autolock junglers, then one game with both

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Zigzagoon
08/01/21 5:40:19 PM
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Zigzagoon
08/01/21 5:40:59 PM
#478:


Thankfully I haven't really gotten any AFKers since when I was stuck in Great 1 for like 20 games.

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KamikazePotato
08/01/21 5:46:58 PM
#479:


Oop, meant Ultra

Make that four in a row. So many people refuse to do anything but jungle. I'm neck deep in the land of the one tricks

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Forceful_Dragon
08/01/21 5:48:51 PM
#480:


Good. Well I'll be around in an hour or so if you want backup KP

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Zigzagoon
08/01/21 5:49:53 PM
#481:


Yeah, I'm scared of solo queueing now since I only jungle. Don't want to get into double jungle situation where the other guy is griefing me or whatever.

Especially if the person is playing Cinderace. Buddy, your character is busted af he can go in any lane.

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Zigzagoon
08/01/21 5:50:33 PM
#482:


Though even as is I've only been duoing with Red the last couple days.

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red13n
08/01/21 6:01:55 PM
#483:


KamikazePotato posted...
Venusaur is easily the worst in the game. Talonflame and Charizard aren't much better.

Charizard at least can be a bit difficult to hit. Venusaur is a glass water pistol and Talonflame telegraphs everything.

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GANON1025
08/01/21 7:15:42 PM
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Bought Eldegoss and played a couple of games as them... I think the main problem here, is that playing as Eldegoss means you kinda have to depend on your teammates more. And I absolutely, 100% cannot depend on my teammates in these random ranked games, so I end up feeling very ineffectual. It's not like I can stop 2-3 enemies from continually scoring when none of my buddies are around... not that I can stop that amount of enemies as an attacker or defender either, but I feel like in those roles I have a bit more autonomy. As Eldegoss though, I'm only as good as the teammates I'm supporting...

Also, you can't target allies with Pollen Puff? Makes it kinda hard to heal your allies then!

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Zigzagoon
08/01/21 7:24:49 PM
#485:


Yeah I wouldn't recommend playing Eldegoss in ranked anywhere lower than Expert or Veteran or unless you are with 4 friends you can count on. Otherwise you're just hoping for your randos to know what they are doing.

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GANON1025
08/01/21 7:30:00 PM
#486:


Ha, I'm actually on Expert Rank 1 right now. But point taken.

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Grand Kirby
08/01/21 8:18:18 PM
#487:


I mean, that's the primary reason I didn't choose Eldegoss to start with. I knew from experience with Overwatch that a good support can't save an abysmal team. But I didn't realize you would free licenses for basically everything BUT a Support character... I just want it to have on hand when playing with friends.

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KamikazePotato
08/01/21 10:16:18 PM
#488:


I'm down to play if anyone else is.

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Zigzagoon
08/01/21 10:18:02 PM
#489:


Red and I are gonna be ranking again in a bit but I don't want to step on your toes for jungle, KP. I don't have any other mains atm. :(

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WazzupGenius00
08/01/21 10:24:48 PM
#490:


Uhhhh I guess the All Pokmon menu at team select is just fucked? Twice now it has glitched and then made me completely unable to select a Pokemon so I just get stuck with whatever my cursor happened to be on at that moment

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KamikazePotato
08/01/21 10:25:34 PM
#491:


I don't mind not playing jungle. I just mind when two randoms both autolock jungle. Which happened three times today!

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Grand Kirby
08/01/21 10:41:48 PM
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WazzupGenius00 posted...
Uhhhh I guess the All Pokmon menu at team select is just fucked? Twice now it has glitched and then made me completely unable to select a Pokemon so I just get stuck with whatever my cursor happened to be on at that moment
Yeah, it really sucks. You can press the minus button to get out of it. It seems to happen if you press it at the same time you get the message that someone has already taken the Pokemon you currently have selected. I find it to be more reliable to move the cursor normally once or twice before opening the "All Pokemon" menu.

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Waluigi1
08/02/21 12:18:36 AM
#493:


Grand Kirby posted...
Yeah, it really sucks. You can press the minus button to get out of it. It seems to happen if you press it at the same time you get the message that someone has already taken the Pokemon you currently have selected. I find it to be more reliable to move the cursor normally once or twice before opening the "All Pokemon" menu.
Yeah the same thing happened to me. I quickly learned to stop using it.

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Zigzagoon
08/02/21 4:39:11 AM
#494:


It has been done! Masters Get!

https://twitter.com/ArtemisDog_/status/1422114182124642313

Weirdest end game too. Neither team could quite finish off Zapdos but our early-mid game was sliiiightly better than theirs thanks to yours truly :)

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Forceful_Dragon
08/02/21 10:26:55 AM
#495:


I had to play a ranked game on my alt to complete one of the day's quests so I carried my team to a 498-207 victory.

Now that doesn't see too lopsided until you see that I scored 385 of our points <_<

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Luis_Sera89
08/02/21 10:56:23 AM
#496:


The current joint-#1 ranked player globally (Averse) gave his opinion today on what the best high rank team-comp should look like today, if anyone's interested. At least at this early stage of the's game's life.

He had Cinderace as the optimal jungler. The reason for this being that he considers Cinderace to be the best character in the game, with the most carry potential. Funneling as much exp from the jungle onto him as possible and getting him levelled up gives him the best chance of dominating fights. Speedsters, who are the most common junglers at lower ranks just don't have the kits/stats to carry in the same way.

For bot lane, he said Snorlax and Cramorant, although you could sub the latter with another strong Attacker like Ninetales or Gardevoir. Basically this pairing should be as oppressive as possible, as there's greater focus on this lane than top, as there are more Pokemon spawns, plus Drednaw.

Finally, he had top lane as Eldegoss and Lucario. Eldegoss speaks for itself - Lucario is more replaceable, but he's probably the best split-pusher in the game and one of the best duelists.

The best item set-up on most characters in his opinion is Muscle Band, Buddy Barrier and Focus Band, particularly BB and FB.

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Grand Kirby
08/02/21 11:33:56 AM
#497:


Any set recommendations? That's the thing that holds me back on trying out different characters because they are so many variations in what movesets to choose.

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Luis_Sera89
08/02/21 11:50:27 AM
#498:


The set I posted at the end of my last post is a pretty universally useful set-up.

It might seem odd to suggest Muscle Band even on mage-like characters, but you find yourself auto-attacking much more in this game than most other MOBAs, particularly since every character has a passive where your third auto is empowered, so you get surprising value out of it.

The shield(s) you get from Buddy Barrier can make all the difference in a fight, especially around Zapdos, so whilst you won't get use from it throughout a match, it proves it's worth when it really counts.

Focus Band is just really good survivability, especially when you get it level 20 the regen gets really strong and it'll push you over the line in more 1v1 fights.

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Zigzagoon
08/02/21 12:20:57 PM
#499:


I'm going to mess around with other things now that I've hit masters. Mostly Zeraora now since near the end of the road, Absol's weaknesses were REALLY starting to show. I have no interest in the current top tier pokemon, none of them would make my top 300 pokes so I'm not playing them.

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_stingers_
08/02/21 12:42:53 PM
#500:


500

In the next thread can someone answer if you can remote ranks in this game? Or are you locked in when you hit it

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