Board 8 > Why is it so hard to make a good Star Fox game?

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Sunroof 07/11/21 12:16:42 PM #1:	Literally just make it a shooter game like the 64 one. Dont add any world roaming on foot or anything. I would think with todays graphics and simple formula, it would be very easy. When was the last great Star Fox game? <cite>Sunroof posted [p:955973281] in Why is it ... [t:79559447]...</cite> <quote>Literally just make it a shooter game like the 64 one. Dont add any world roaming on foot or anything. I would think with todays graphics and simple formula, it would be very easy. When was the last great Star Fox game? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WazzupGenius00 07/11/21 9:32:50 PM #2:	Sunroof posted... Literally just make it a shooter game like the 64 one. Dont add any world roaming on foot or anything. I would think with todays graphics and simple formula, it would be very easy. When was the last great Star Fox game? Star Fox 2, released in 2017 --- https://imgur.com/k0v0z3q <cite>WazzupGenius00 posted [p:955989814] in Why is it ... [t:79559447]...</cite> <quote>Sunroof posted... </cite> <quote>Literally just make it a shooter game like the 64 one. Dont add any world roaming on foot or anything. I would think with todays graphics and simple formula, it would be very easy. When was the last great Star Fox game?</quote>Star Fox 2, released in 2017 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrGreenonion 07/11/21 10:27:50 PM #3:	WazzupGenius00 posted... Star Fox 2, released in 2017 It wasn't that good, despite probably being the best since 64 and third-best in the franchise Wow that's a depressing thought <cite>MrGreenonion posted [p:955991341] in Why is it ... [t:79559447]...</cite> <quote>WazzupGenius00 posted... </cite> <quote>Star Fox 2, released in 2017</quote>It wasn't that good, despite probably being the best since 64 and third-best in the franchise Wow that's a depressing thought </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 07/11/21 10:34:03 PM #4:	Its the kind of formula that would get real stale if they just repeated it over and over without mixing it up. That said they definitely have not yet reached that point with Star Fox! So it would definitely be safe for them to do a current gen retread of 64! --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:955991536] in Why is it ... [t:79559447]...</cite> <quote>Its the kind of formula that would get real stale if they just repeated it over and over without mixing it up. That said they definitely have not yet reached that point with Star Fox! So it would definitely be safe for them to do a current gen retread of 64! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raka_Putra 07/11/21 11:08:15 PM #5:	Just make it like Mario Kart Live and have real drones you can control around your house with AR. What can go wrong? --- Into the woods, but mind the past... Into the woods, but mind the future! <cite>Raka_Putra posted [p:955992444] in Why is it ... [t:79559447]...</cite> <quote>Just make it like Mario Kart Live and have real drones you can control around your house with AR. What can go wrong? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 07/11/21 11:08:55 PM #6:	An on rails shooter with branching paths and a robust point system is all you need. They lost the narrative when they shat out that garbage Adventures game, and tried to split the difference with Assault (which was decent for the most part). It isn't hard, Nintendo is just creatively bankrupt and completely out of touch with what gamers that aren't 5 years old are looking for. --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:955992463] in Why is it ... [t:79559447]...</cite> <quote>An on rails shooter with branching paths and a robust point system is all you need. They lost the narrative when they shat out that garbage Adventures game, and tried to split the difference with Assault (which was decent for the most part). It isn't hard, Nintendo is just creatively bankrupt and completely out of touch with what gamers that aren't 5 years old are looking for. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 07/11/21 11:30:00 PM #7:	Well if its so easy, YOU make it --- https://imgur.com/G17qCv1 <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:955992957] in Why is it ... [t:79559447]...</cite> <quote>Well if its so easy, YOU make it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red13n 07/11/21 11:39:01 PM #8:	Zero would have been perfectly fine if they just didnt force crappy controls for no reason. --- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. <cite>red13n posted [p:955993207] in Why is it ... [t:79559447]...</cite> <quote>Zero would have been perfectly fine if they just didnt force crappy controls for no reason. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 07/11/21 11:39:20 PM #9:	because Star Fox 64 is like an hour long can the gameplay actually sustain a game that is long enough to make people spend $60 on it today my pitch is this: Do Assault again, but obviously try to make the on-foot shooter stuff better, and include a mode that lets you just do the Arwing/other vehicle levels in a 64-like structure. --- For your Azuarc* .* At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:955993223] in Why is it ... [t:79559447]...</cite> <quote>because Star Fox 64 is like an hour long can the gameplay actually sustain a game that is long enough to make people spend $60 on it today my pitch is this: Do Assault again, but obviously try to make the on-foot shooter stuff better, and include a mode that lets you just do the Arwing/other vehicle levels in a 64-like structure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 07/11/21 11:52:45 PM #10:	Sunroof posted... When was the last great Star Fox game? Kid Icarus Uprising in 2012 MoogleKupo141 posted... because Star Fox 64 is like an hour long can the gameplay actually sustain a game that is long enough to make people spend $60 on it today Anyway this is the real reason --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:955993522] in Why is it ... [t:79559447]...</cite> <quote>Sunroof posted... </cite> <quote>When was the last great Star Fox game?</quote>Kid Icarus Uprising in 2012 MoogleKupo141 posted... </cite> <quote>because Star Fox 64 is like an hour long can the gameplay actually sustain a game that is long enough to make people spend $60 on it today</quote>Anyway this is the real reason </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 07/12/21 12:22:50 AM #11:	MoogleKupo141 posted... because Star Fox 64 is like an hour long This is the main issue. That style of game doesn't have the same appeal. Now that isn't to say it can't be done at all, but I'm thinking something to add replayability would making it kind of like FTL with it's procedurally generated systems. You could still have some loose plot elements (such as the game starting because their squadron is tasked to hop through a wormhole or something to parts unknown) but then still deliver relatively fresh playthroughs for a long time before it starts to stale. :shrug: --- ~C~ FD https://imgur.com/dGDfxaw <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:955994132] in Why is it ... [t:79559447]...</cite> <quote>MoogleKupo141 posted... </cite> <quote>because Star Fox 64 is like an hour long</quote> This is the main issue. That style of game doesn't have the same appeal. Now that isn't to say it can't be done at all, but I'm thinking something to add replayability would making it kind of like FTL with it's procedurally generated systems. You could still have some loose plot elements (such as the game starting because their squadron is tasked to hop through a wormhole or something to parts unknown) but then still deliver relatively fresh playthroughs for a long time before it starts to stale. :shrug: </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punnyz 07/12/21 12:29:08 AM #12:	As mentioned the old games are just too short to be released like that nowadays. Hell 10-15 years ago people bitch about how short some of the Call of Duties were. So imagine now. They can probably make one as a Downloadable title for like 10-20 bucks, but Nintendo isn't gonna do that --- https://imgur.com/qBpLe47 https://imgur.com/25MHSn1 <cite>Punnyz posted [p:955994255] in Why is it ... [t:79559447]...</cite> <quote>As mentioned the old games are just too short to be released like that nowadays. Hell 10-15 years ago people bitch about how short some of the Call of Duties were. So imagine now. They can probably make one as a Downloadable title for like 10-20 bucks, but Nintendo isn't gonna do that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 07/12/21 12:48:13 AM #13:	Kenri posted... Kid Icarus Uprising in 2012 Why can't they port this to or make a sequel for not-3DS? --- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto <cite>paperwarior posted [p:955994679] in Why is it ... [t:79559447]...</cite> <quote>Kenri posted... </cite> <quote>Kid Icarus Uprising in 2012 </quote> Why can't they port this to or make a sequel for not-3DS? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 07/12/21 12:49:57 AM #14:	Punnyz posted... They can probably make one as a Downloadable title for like 10-20 bucks This is the Way. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:955994727] in Why is it ... [t:79559447]...</cite> <quote>Punnyz posted... </cite> <quote>They can probably make one as a Downloadable title for like 10-20 bucks</quote> This is the Way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 07/12/21 1:00:07 AM #15:	paperwarior posted... Why can't they port this to or make a sequel for not-3DS? God I wish In fairness to not porting it, they'd have to completely change the controls and IIRC a couple levels used 3D pretty heavily so they'd need to modify that. It's all doable but would be extra effort I guess Now why there's no sequel... good fuckin question --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:955994962] in Why is it ... [t:79559447]...</cite> <quote>paperwarior posted... </cite> <quote>Why can't they port this to or make a sequel for not-3DS?</quote>God I wish In fairness to not porting it, they'd have to completely change the controls and IIRC a couple levels used 3D pretty heavily so they'd need to modify that. It's all doable but would be extra effort I guess Now why there's no sequel... good fuckin question </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GTM 07/12/21 1:50:40 AM #16:	Sunroof posted... When was the last great Star Fox game? 2 months ago, New Pokemon Snap No but really forget star fox and make a new sin and punishment --- GTM - Boko United survivor and dillos and nintendo and you are awesome <cite>GTM posted [p:955995904] in Why is it ... [t:79559447]...</cite> <quote>Sunroof posted... </cite> <quote>When was the last great Star Fox game?</quote> 2 months ago, New Pokemon Snap No but really forget star fox and make a new sin and punishment </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StartTheMachine 07/12/21 11:00:44 AM #17:	Honestly think Star Fox Zero is probably the best game in the series. And I absolutely hated it after my first two hours or so with it to the point I thought I'd never touch it again. After toughing out a first run through and finally getting the hang of everything, I grew to love it. But I don't blame people for not doing that. It's a Star Fox game with like a 10 hour learning curve, which is pretty inexplicable in a franchise known for accessibility. It would be much easier for them just to replicate the 64 formula with a lot more planets. Rogue-likes/lites are a thing nowadays. I think they could make a Star Fox game meaty enough with routing options to justify a full price tag today. --- - Blur - Welcome to your Divinity. <cite>StartTheMachine posted [p:956003881] in Why is it ... [t:79559447]...</cite> <quote>Honestly think Star Fox Zero is probably the best game in the series. And I absolutely hated it after my first two hours or so with it to the point I thought I'd never touch it again. After toughing out a first run through and finally getting the hang of everything, I grew to love it. But I don't blame people for not doing that. It's a Star Fox game with like a 10 hour learning curve, which is pretty inexplicable in a franchise known for accessibility. It would be much easier for them just to replicate the 64 formula with a lot more planets. Rogue-likes/lites are a thing nowadays. I think they could make a Star Fox game meaty enough with routing options to justify a full price tag today. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 07/12/21 12:40:39 PM #18:	paperwarior posted... Kenri posted... Kid Icarus Uprising in 2012 Why can't they port this to or make a sequel for not-3DS? Because Sakurai has done nothing but Smash Bros since then. --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:956006481] in Why is it ... [t:79559447]...</cite> <quote>paperwarior posted...</cite> <quote>Kenri posted... </cite> <quote> Kid Icarus Uprising in 2012 </quote> Why can't they port this to or make a sequel for not-3DS?</quote> Because Sakurai has done nothing but Smash Bros since then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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