Poll of the Day > CDC investigating death of 13 year old who died days after getting covid vaccine

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/07/04/saginaw-county-michigan-jacob-clynick-pfizer-covid-vaccine/7858478002/

No known health problems or conditions. Preliminary autopsy showed an enlarged heart with fluid surrounding it. So sad to see stories like this.

Sad to see people try to create a vaccine scare over a birth defect.
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Sad that we're continuing to make the vaccine political.

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Sad to see people try to create a vaccine scare over a birth defect.

To be fair, the investigation is important as is the studying. Even if the death rate is a tiny 1 micromort, we can always do better... research like this can get us down to 0.1 micromorts!

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Ayyyyyy shit gimmick what's up, son?

I see you're still on your shit gimmick game

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One person out tens of millions dies from the vaccine.

The odds of that happening are even smaller than winning the lottery, or even to COVID, gun violence, or automobile accident.

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Are you still claiming that you're not an alt, TC?

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Well see what they can figure out about why this happened to the poor kid

Very sad news

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Sad to see people try to create a vaccine scare over a birth defect.

Heck, even if the vaccine is wholly to blame (unlikely, but not impossible), it's sad to see people try to create a vaccine scare over an extremely rare adverse outcome. Exploiting a tragedy like this to undermine the most important public health effort in a century by misrepresenting the risk the tragedy represents is just pathetic.

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Judgmenl posted...

Sad that we're continuing to make the vaccine political.

This. We can't have an open and frank discussion about possible adverse reactions because a stalwart group insists it can do no wrong.

And not for nothing, but the Pfizer is showing itself to be less effective against the delta variant so peoples' lives may be getting risked for nothing when other vaccines are on the market. At this point, the Moderna should be offered as an alternative to people who might have a reaction to the Janssen and the Pfizer should be left as a backup to the others.

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Zeus posted...

This. We can't have an open and frank discussion about possible adverse reactions because a stalwart group insists it can do no wrong.

More accurately, we can't have an open and frank discussion about possible adverse reactions because a stalwart group insists on blowing every single report out of proportion and characterizing empirical risk analysis that suggests a more tempered response as "insisting it can do no wrong."

Nobody's saying these vaccines (or any others) can't have adverse side effects. If you believe they are, that's because you don't understand what they're saying. What everybody that understands that 10 is a bigger number than 1 is saying is that the risks of these side effects are significantly lower than the risk of even worse adverse effects due to Covid infection, such that the most sensible course of action is still to get the shot despite these side effects. That's very, very different from "insisting it can do no wrong." If you keep humping strawmen like that, you're going to get some very uncomfortable splinters.

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I'm young enough, healthy enough, and have a strong enough immune system that even if I did catch it, the risks of me having serious effects are low. why bother risking side effects from a shot?

for awhile at work they sent out notifications 3/4 times a month about someone being infected. either I caught it and had zero effects, or I didn't catch it and probably won't.
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what a completely moronic thing to think.

you're never gonna get in a car wreck, so why wear a seatbelt?

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Krazy_Kirby posted...

I'm young enough, healthy enough, and have a strong enough immune system that even if I did catch it, the risks of me having serious effects are low. why bother risking side effects from a shot?

adjl posted...

What everybody that understands that 10 is a bigger number than 1 is saying is that the risks of these side effects are significantly lower than the risk of even worse adverse effects due to Covid infection, such that the most sensible course of action is still to get the shot despite these side effects.

I literally just said it.

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long term effects are unknown
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

either I caught it and had zero effects, or I didn't catch it and probably won't.

i feel like im listening to a terrance howard, ted talk, ok?

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Krazy_Kirby posted...

long term effects are unknown

That's true of both Covid and the vaccines (even without considering that it's technically true of virtually everything).

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He's more afraid of the long term risks of a vaccine but not the long term risks of catching a deadly disease?

Sounds about Kirby.

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The long term effects of a ton of things are unknown

Life is risk

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"I'd rather take my chances with the zombie virus, than take a cure"

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I actually my coworker about long term effects of covid because his brother is some higher up guy at the CDC. He said it's not believed that there will be long term effects of covid

Did you really just "my dad works for Xbox" us? Lmao

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EvilMegas posted...

Did you really just "my dad works for Xbox" us? Lmao

Yeah except it's a guy who makes six figures at the CDC. Sit down now, loser

And not just six figures. Well into the 6 figures. Like a quarter mil a year

EvilMegas posted...

Did you really just "my dad works for Xbox" us? Lmao

of course he did, hes a compulsive liar, ok?

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ClarkDuke posted...

of course he did, hes a compulsive liar, ok?

Stfu, transphobe

OhhhJa posted...

Yeah except it's a guy who makes six figures at the CDC. Sit down now, loser

OK, Shenti. Brag about someone you just made up to feel superior.

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This fuckin guy. That's why I'll never block you, my boy. Your shitposts are golden.

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OhhhJa posted...

Stfu, transphobe

im not a transphobe, so i would appreciate if you stopped mistaking your hang ups with others, ok?

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lmao

it's already proven that there will be long term effects of covid, specifically because of the effects it gives now

this friend at the cdc just sounds like a janitor, if they exist, which they obviously do not

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OhhhJa posted...

Stfu, transphobe

Lmao. The irony. Youve gotta lot of balls calling out anyone for being transphobic.

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There was a fucking news article posted here about 1 year ago showing the lung damage on a younger lady (she was in her 20s/30s) after having a mild case of covid.
But yeah there is no long term effects of covid.

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OhhhJa posted...

Yeah except it's a guy who makes six figures at the CDC. Sit down now, loser

So instead of your uncle working at Nintendo, he works at the CDC. Riiiiight...

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adjl posted...

So instead of your uncle working at Nintendo, he works at the CDC. Riiiiight...

If this guys that Shenti. Didnt he loose his dads business because he was busy bouncing bars off his chest and buying Alienware computers? Not even the saddest thing yall said about him.

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I don't think there's any reason to believe OhhhJa is Shenti. There really aren't any similarities between them.

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That's like lihlih saying he took parenting advice from a psych major so we're all wrong lmao

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helIy posted...

what a completely moronic thing to think.

you're never gonna get in a car wreck, so why wear a seatbelt?

Because the damn car wont stop beeping until I do. (Actually, mine is older so it just blinks at me, but still....)

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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...

Because the damn car wont stop beeping until I do. (Actually, mine is older so it just blinks at me, but still....)

A couple weeks back, I picked up a bunch of bales of soil for my garden, and I had to put one in the passenger seat because I ran out of actual cargo room. That was all well and good, until I got above 20 km/h and my car informed me that my passenger wasn't wearing a seatbelt. That was a somewhat obnoxious drive home. If I ever transport something that heavy in the front seat again, I'll need to remember to buckle up behind it.

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adjl posted...

A couple weeks back, I picked up a bunch of bales of soil for my garden, and I had to put one in the passenger seat because I ran out of actual cargo room. That was all well and good, until I got above 20 km/h and my car informed me that my passenger wasn't wearing a seatbelt. That was a somewhat obnoxious drive home. If I ever transport something that heavy in the front seat again, I'll need to remember to buckle up behind it.

Oh yeah, that happens with my moms car sometimes if she puts something in that seat.

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DING DING DING DING DING DING

(Caps)

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Ohhhja is actually natemac



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adjl posted...

I don't think there's any reason to believe OhhhJa is Shenti. There really aren't any similarities between them.

I dunno about you, but he gives off major shenti vibes to me. Or maybe it's just small man aggression.

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EvilMegas posted...

I dunno about you, but he gives off major shenti vibes to me. Or maybe it's just small man aggression.

P sure its small man aggression. Cant get respect irl so he disrespects everyone here.

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"Says dumb thing"
*someone points out or questions dumb thing*
"Personal insults"

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In Maryland (June), every person who died of covid was unvaccinated

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/07/us/maryland-unvaccinated-covid-deaths/index.html


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Lokarin posted...

In Maryland (June), every person who died of covid was unvaccinated

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/07/us/maryland-unvaccinated-covid-deaths/index.html

Given that vaccinated people are making up like 0.1% of Covid deaths on a larger scale, 0/130 is within expectations. 1-2 would also be consistent, because that sample is small enough for random variation to cause some pretty significant deviations.

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Covid would be almost entirely stamped out in this country if not for idiots, and we could focus a lot more on getting vaccines to places like India and third world nations that desperately need it

Its willful ignorance fueled by selfishness

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