Current Events > Chris Rock rips cancel culture, says people are 'scared to speak'

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https://dailycaller.com/2021/05/19/chris-rock-cancel-culture-comedians/

is he right?

I'm sure some people are but not many because most people don't say shit that would get them canceled.

He is right. People take everything to heart. No one can take a joke. It's boring af, stop trying to be like 'oh hannah gadsby is funny and never says aaaaanything offensive, why cant you choose her over Louis CK'

Because asshole or not he's FUNNY AS SHIT. AND NOW WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO LIKE HIS STUFF

GODDAMNIT THEYCANCELLEDLOUIEANDITSHISFAULT

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As someone in the corporate world I can say for an absolute fact that the culture has changed drastically in the last 5 years. No one interacts anymore because its simply not worth the risk of accidentally somehow saying something that can be interpreted by one person some way as offensive.

Like its literally JUST sports and the weather being discussed in the 30 seconds before a meeting starts and thats it.

So yeah no ones gonna say anything offensive, hooray, but were all dead inside.

How cute, since he was apart of cancel culture.

Shut up celeb.

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ShyOx posted...

He is right. People take everything to heart. No one can take a joke. It's boring af, stop trying to be like 'oh hannah gadsby is funny and never says aaaaanything offensive, why cant you choose her over Louis CK'

Because asshole or not he's FUNNY AS SHIT. AND NOW WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO LIKE HIS STUFF

GODDAMNIT THEYCANCELLEDLOUIEANDITSHISFAULT

Yeah, whats a bit of exhibitionism between non-consenting adults?


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Already a topic about this and nowhere was he talking about "cancel culture," but you linking to a fucking Nazi rag sure is telling

I see a lot unfunny comedians, I see unfunny TV shows, I see unfunny award shows, I see unfunny movies cause no ones everybodys scared to, like, you know, make a move. You know, thats not a place to be. We should have the right to fail. Because failure is a part of art. You know what I mean? Its the ultimate cancel, but now you got a place where people are scared to talk, thats not especially in America youre scared to talk, but thats what people want, you gotta make adjustments and, you know, lets do it.

He's talking about boring shows that are afraid to take risks with material and not get picked up, not getting canceled. Learn to read.

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I remember a while back a number of comedians refused to play college and university shows because of the rise in woke culture. In an industry where nothing is sacred, how can you curate comedy to people who get perpetually offended?

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JoeBurrow posted...

I'm sure some people are but not many because most people don't say shit that would get them canceled.

Even if you wouldn't be cancelled for what you said, you can't know that until people try, so it's going to have a chilling effect on speech regardless.

Also that whole argument reminds me of "I'm not against the government spying on citizens because I have nothing to hide", it misses the point

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Cancel culture doesn't really exist. Chris Rock, Bill Maher, Tucker Carlson, and all these other fucks can shut up about it.

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Alucard188 posted...

I remember a while back a number of comedians refused to play college and university shows because of the rise in woke culture. In an industry where nothing is sacred, how can you curate comedy to people who get perpetually offended?

Read my post and shut the fuck up.

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Well if Chris Rock said so!

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I doubt Rebel has any understanding of actual Nazism

coh posted...

I doubt Rebel has any understanding of actual Nazism

It was founded by a white supremacist and frequently published other white supremacists

Doom_Art posted...

Well if Chris Rock said so!

He didn't, though, is the thing lol

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on one hand people who complain the loudest about cancel culture tend to be people with shitty opinions in general and are afraid of facing consequences

but on the other hand twitter users have turned this into something they do for entertainment. rather than actually having the moral high ground they now just target people to mass harass because its fun to them and then they work backwards to justify it.

you know watch this 2 hour long video explaining the issues with the whole thing because i cant explain myself as well as she can

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7aWz8q_IM4

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SothaSil posted...

Read my post and shut the fuck up.

People are scared to speak up because they don't want to say something that is not funny, or funny but offensive to somebody. He didn't call it 'the ultimate cancel' just because he liked the way it sounded.

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yusiko posted...

you know watch this 2 hour long video explaining the issues with the whole thing because i cant explain myself as well as she can

Lol who listens to people like this?

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Kakapo posted...

Yeah, whats a bit of exhibitionism between non-consenting adults?

They did consent fwiw

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joe40001 posted...

They did consent fwiw

Its worth quite a fucking lot

Old man yells at cloud.jpg

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SothaSil posted...

Already a topic about this and nowhere was he talking about "cancel culture," but you linking to a fucking Nazi rag sure is telling

I see a lot unfunny comedians, I see unfunny TV shows, I see unfunny award shows, I see unfunny movies cause no ones everybodys scared to, like, you know, make a move. You know, thats not a place to be. We should have the right to fail. Because failure is a part of art. You know what I mean? Its the ultimate cancel, but now you got a place where people are scared to talk, thats not especially in America youre scared to talk, but thats what people want, you gotta make adjustments and, you know, lets do it.

He's talking about boring shows that are afraid to take risks with material and not get picked up, not getting canceled. Learn to read.

Yeah, it's essentially the same thing Donald Glover said, and it's being taken out of context too.

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Inb4 someone calls Chris Rock an alt-right Nazi.

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Alucard188 posted...

I remember a while back a number of comedians refused to play college and university shows because of the rise in woke culture. In an industry where nothing is sacred, how can you curate comedy to people who get perpetually offended?

You cant because they dont want comedy. What they want is to be offended. Thats the endorphin rush they are seeking.

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Why am I not surprised Tucker Carlson and his bullshit rag took yet another thing out of context to beat the drum of their agenda?

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The college crowd argument is weak, comedians just don't like it when they can't get cheap laughs and need to work for their material. It's cowardly.
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LightningAce11 posted...

The college crowd argument is weak, comedians just don't like it when they can't get cheap laughs and need to work for their material. It's cowardly.

Yeah, because 20 years olds have such refined tastes in comedy.

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LightningAce11 posted...

The college crowd argument is weak, comedians just don't like it when they can't get cheap laughs and need to work for their material. It's cowardly.

Yes, I'm sure it's just that people like Chris Rock are lazy and don't want to put in the effort.

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He's already rich and famous, why would he care to put in extra effort? He's past that point.
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LightningAce11 posted...

He's already rich and famous, why would he care to put in extra effort? He's past that point.

So who in your opinion is putting in the extra effort and not just doing pandering, hack material?

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RTruthLILJimmy posted...

As someone in the corporate world I can say for an absolute fact that the culture has changed drastically in the last 5 years. No one interacts anymore because its simply not worth the risk of accidentally somehow saying something that can be interpreted by one person some way as offensive.

Like its literally JUST sports and the weather being discussed in the 30 seconds before a meeting starts and thats it.

So yeah no ones gonna say anything offensive, hooray, but were all dead inside.

ya my experience is quite the opposite.

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Kakapo posted...

Yeah, whats a bit of exhibitionism between non-consenting adults?

They did consent in the main case, and that's never been up for debate. The argument is he used his leverage as one of the biggest comedians on the planet to do what he wanted. @Kakapo

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Zeeak4444 posted...

ya my experience is quite the opposite.

People are MORE outspoken where you work? Do you work in Alabama?

so sick of hearing about this cancel culture shit...

i swear everytime i hear that term i wanna bang my head against a wall. -_-

RTruthLILJimmy posted...

As someone in the corporate world I can say for an absolute fact that the culture has changed drastically in the last 5 years. No one interacts anymore because its simply not worth the risk of accidentally somehow saying something that can be interpreted by one person some way as offensive.

Like its literally JUST sports and the weather being discussed in the 30 seconds before a meeting starts and thats it.

So yeah no ones gonna say anything offensive, hooray, but were all dead inside.

idgaf I speak my mind at work. The only thing I don't waste my time with is politics because there are A LOT of closeted suburban republican voters in corporate who are not worth alienating but literally any other topic is game.

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The amount of people who deny the reality of cancel culture is downright perplexing.

Like there's mountains of evidence that this exists. May as well be an anti vaxxer if your whole game is denying reality.

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I keep hearing famous outspoken comedians say this but I have yet to experience it in my day to day life

ShyOx posted...

They did consent in the main case, and that's never been up for debate. The argument is he used his leverage as one of the biggest comedians on the planet to do what he wanted.

I don't think he used his leverage per se. There are reports that he's been doing creepy s*** since early in his career. It's more like he didnt consider how his status would give him leverage. As far as I know, he never threatened or implied that he would damage his victims' careers.

I know the difference is small, but it's significant.

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Entertainers make tons of money off people liking what they're saying. If people don't like what you're saying, then you don't make as much money. I really don't see what's so difficult about this. There is no such thing as cancel culture it's literally just unfettered capitalism.

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"Theres plenty of people being funny right now. Not only being funny but being really fucking funny. There are still lines to be rode. If you like to ride a line, you can still ride a line. If you want to take chances, you can still take chances.
Really, the only thing thats off the table, culturally, at this juncture and not even entirely is shamelessly punching down for the sheer joy of hurting people. For the sheer excitement and laughter that some people get from causing people pain, from making people uncomfortable, from making people feel excluded. You know, that excitement.
If youre too intimidated to try to do comedy that is deep or provocative, or even a little controversial, without hurting people, then youre not good at what you do. Or maybe youre just insensitive."
- Marc Maron

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justaguy3492 posted...

Entertainers make tons of money off people liking what they're saying. If people don't like what you're saying, then you don't make as much money. I really don't see what's so difficult about this. There is no such thing as cancel culture it's literally just unfettered capitalism.

this. All the people who got rich complaining about cancel culture have severe me reaping vs me sowing energy going on.

Darker Cheshire posted...

"Theres plenty of people being funny right now. Not only being funny but being really fucking funny. There are still lines to be rode. If you like to ride a line, you can still ride a line. If you want to take chances, you can still take chances.
Really, the only thing thats off the table, culturally, at this juncture and not even entirely is shamelessly punching down for the sheer joy of hurting people. For the sheer excitement and laughter that some people get from causing people pain, from making people uncomfortable, from making people feel excluded. You know, that excitement.
If youre too intimidated to try to do comedy that is deep or provocative, or even a little controversial, without hurting people, then youre not good at what you do. Or maybe youre just insensitive."
- Marc Maron

Yeah and then you should listen to Marc Marons podcast he did with Mark Normand a couple weeks ago. Maron kind of changed his tune and felt people should be a lot more forgiving to the process of writing a joke. Which isn't to say that he condones punching down exactly, but he acknowledges that there may be ways to tell a joke and make it "ok" that he has never thought of. He acknowledges that there are risks to telling jokes, but consequences should be pretty mild when jokes are in the early phases. It's a bit different if it's a joke that gets recorded for an album though. Also, times change and many comics of the 80's sad tons of real bad stuff. You need to change with the times, but also not necessarily condemn the entirety of the past

If you know Mark Normand at all then you'd know he is pretty strongly anti cancel culture and I don't need to explain anything about him. His views are much less complex lol

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Yeah cancel culture is fucking stupid. I hate that I live in this society that is offended by everything.

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I think that as long as the "crime" wasn't too big, then no one should be persecuted for decisions they made 5, 10, 15+ years ago. We all are different to ourselves from back then. We make different choices now that our brains might not have made back then.

If were reading about what Chris Rock thinks about anything, he hasnt actually been cancelled then.

cancel culture isnt real. Its a virtue signal for the overdramatic right who think their free speech is under attack.

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Cancel culture is the reason why comedy is so stale this generation. People are too serious. They cant take a joke without being offended. I get that there is boundaries that comedian should not cross like being overly racist, sexist or homophobic but they often dont do that.

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No one is afraid to speak.

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mech dragon posted...

If were reading about what Chris Rock thinks about anything, he hasnt actually been cancelled then.

cancel culture isnt real. Its a virtue signal for the overdramatic right who think their free speech is under attack.

@mech_dragon

Comedians have been talking about cancel culture long before right wing politicians tried to take advantage of the term.

No one who says cancel culture isn't real should be taken the least bit seriously. Like yeah Republicans have used the term to rally their voting base to hide their lack of any real beneficial policies, but that doesn't make the entirety of cancel culture not real.

Like how can anyone claim to be discussing in any sort of good faith and claim that no one has ever been cancelled or faced the threat of it?

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mech dragon posted...

If were reading about what Chris Rock thinks about anything, he hasnt actually been cancelled then.

"If somebody I can hear complains about cancel culture, it isn't real because I can hear them."

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You get the problem with that, right? The problem is the only evidence of cancel culture you'll accept is from people who are cancelled to the point you can't hear them.

The best you can get if those are your rules are second hand stories, I guess. But there are a fair amount of them. Here's a classic:
https://www.ted.com/talks/jon_ronson_when_online_shaming_goes_too_far/transcript?language=en

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