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Balnazarr
04/24/21 12:58:45 PM
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Great mods on this site.
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The Trent
04/24/21 12:59:13 PM
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I mean do you know what a generalization is

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Balnazarr
04/24/21 1:00:03 PM
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The Trent posted...
I mean do you know what a generalization is

It's not. ACAB. The mods on this site are blue lives matter defenders. Police drop bombs on a Black neighborhood. I'm trolling for saying ACAB.
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The Trent
04/24/21 1:00:33 PM
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But do you know what a generalization is

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Balnazarr
04/24/21 1:00:55 PM
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The Trent posted...
But do you know what a generalization is

How is it a generalization if it's true?
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The Trent
04/24/21 1:01:18 PM
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What would veracity have to do with it

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KiwiTerraRizing
04/24/21 1:01:39 PM
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Mods are pieces of shit, mod that assholes

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xXfireglzXx
04/24/21 1:01:49 PM
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Balnazarr posted...
How is it a generalization if it's true?

The Trent posted...
But do you know what a generalization is


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scorpion41
04/24/21 1:03:16 PM
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Sounds like the mods did their job for once.

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Gamerguymass
04/24/21 1:03:34 PM
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Balnazarr posted...
It's not. ACAB. The mods on this site are blue lives matter defenders. Police drop bombs on a Black neighborhood. I'm trolling for saying ACAB.

You literally just gave the definition of a generalization in your post. You also clearly fail at basically math considering there is nearly a million law enforcement members in the entire country. I also wasn't aware the police had access to jet fighters and the training to be able to drop bombs on people willy nilly.

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Iron-Tarkus
04/24/21 1:03:47 PM
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Eh

I basically just get a frowny face sent when I do which I suppose is fair they dont even delete the message

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AtelierRyza3462
04/24/21 1:03:56 PM
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It is

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nothanks1
04/24/21 1:04:47 PM
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tc about to get warned for claiming all cops are bastards, again
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joe40001
04/24/21 1:05:10 PM
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Balnazarr posted...
How is it a generalization if it's true?

Question 1:
If a murderer was kicking down your door and you had locked yourself in the bathroom. And they are yelling "I'm going to fucking kill you"

Are you going to call the cops?

If so, why?

Question 2:
Assuming not all humans are bastards, take a non-bastard human. That human, like you, thinks the police are deeply flawed. So they decide to fix the problem by joining the police force to improve it in any they can. At what point in becoming a cop do they cease to be a good person and become a bastard?

When they make the decision? When they sign up for training? The officers exam? Because if it happens any time after they are technically a police officer, that would violate your rules as they would be a cop and not a bastard yet.

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Guide
04/24/21 1:06:22 PM
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Don't make me side with the conservatives here, tc. Don't confuse an institution with the individuals working for it.

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gunplagirl
04/24/21 1:07:31 PM
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joe40001 posted...
Question 1:
If a murderer was kicking down your door and you had locked yourself in the bathroom. And they are yelling "I'm going to fucking kill you"

Are you going to call the cops?
Why, so they can get there 15 minutes later, after the guy breaks down the door and killed me?

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Solid Snake07
04/24/21 1:07:34 PM
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Balnazarr posted...
How is it a generalization if it's true?


Literally the same argument racists make

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joe40001
04/24/21 1:08:00 PM
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Guide posted...
Don't make me side with the conservatives here, tc. Don't confuse an institution with the individuals working for it.

I don't think most people calling TC wrong are conservative.

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thronedfire2
04/24/21 1:08:14 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
You literally just gave the definition of a generalization in your post. You also clearly fail at basically math considering there is nearly a million law enforcement members in the entire country. I also wasn't aware the police had access to jet fighters and the training to be able to drop bombs on people willy nilly.

they used a helicopter to drop the bomb, not jets

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monkmith
04/24/21 1:08:14 PM
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R_Jackal
04/24/21 1:08:36 PM
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I mean it's a rallying cry, but it IS a generalization. A generalization is a sweeping statement encompassing everyone in a group. There are a lot of racist and offensive ones, that is one of them unfortunately as it is extremely unlikely that literally ALL cops are bad. Like, every single last one of them.
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Crescente
04/24/21 1:08:46 PM
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This gon be a good topic.
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ButteryMales
04/24/21 1:09:12 PM
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A few bad apples spoils the bunch.

It means the exact same thing yet it's okay. The mods here stink.
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The Trent
04/24/21 1:10:35 PM
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TC ghosting

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DrizztLink
04/24/21 1:10:54 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Why, so they can get there 15 minutes later, after the guy breaks down the door and killed me?
Fifteen minutes?

Who do you think they are, Jimmy Johns?

Two hours.

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R_Jackal
04/24/21 1:11:05 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
A few bad apples spoils the bunch.

It means the exact same thing yet it's okay. The mods here stink.

Except it isn't, it's a saying that means "rot spreads unchecked." A few can turn the whole bad if not removed/treated/whatever. Something like that would be legit, but the "ACAB" saying is literally referencing ALL of them, which means none left out. Thus, generalization.
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Solid Snake07
04/24/21 1:11:12 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Why, so they can get there 15 minutes later, after the guy breaks down the door and killed me?


Do you live in the middle of nowhere?

Cause priority one calls have a response time of about 5ish minutes in most areas.

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nemu
04/24/21 1:11:24 PM
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I can understand why particular people have developed a vitriolic attitude given the current political climate, but you have to step back at some point and actually use real critical thinking if you ever want actual change in the problem areas. It's fine in a moment of anger to be hyperbolic, but using these incidents to form an extreme opinion that's factually untrue is just harmful to yourself.
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The Trent
04/24/21 1:11:43 PM
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I'd ask of gunplagirl is okay with gun ownership on a personal level but im blocked!

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cardoor123
04/24/21 1:14:23 PM
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"Apparently saying white people are bad is generalizing. Great mods on this site."

Is this sentence fine with you @Balnazarr
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Pandamonic
04/24/21 1:15:09 PM
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Sounds like a generalization to me

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ButteryMales
04/24/21 1:15:17 PM
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R_Jackal posted...
A few can turn the whole bad if not removed/treated/whatever.
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/whole
full
perfect
aggregate
all

Literally 4th on the list.
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joe40001
04/24/21 1:18:58 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Why, so they can get there 15 minutes later, after the guy breaks down the door and killed me?

To be clear, if you had somebody with murderous intent providing a serious threat to your life, and you know the police could respond before that person likely would have a chance to murder you, would you not call them?

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R_Jackal
04/24/21 1:19:29 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/whole
full
perfect
aggregate
all

Literally 4th on the list.
I think your understanding of english is poor, I'm not arguing the word whole/all/full, but rather the intent of the saying.

One is saying "this can happen" one is saying "this has already happened."
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gunplagirl
04/24/21 1:19:47 PM
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joe40001 posted...
To be clear, if you had somebody with murderous intent providing a serious threat to your life, and you know the police could respond before that person likely would have a chance to murder you, would you not call them?
It's kill *pulls out all the cleaners and other corrosive substances under the sink* or be killed

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Gwynevere
04/24/21 1:20:46 PM
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Policing in america has roots in rounding up slaves, the tone of that still resonating in present day, but wont someone please think of the cops feelings

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cjsdowg
04/24/21 1:24:31 PM
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IF Cops were good, why are there so many bad one that are still allowed on the force.

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joe40001
04/24/21 1:25:57 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
It's kill *pulls out all the cleaners and other corrosive substances under the sink* or be killed

I don't know what that means.

Is that a no?

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ButteryMales
04/24/21 1:27:03 PM
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R_Jackal posted...
I think your understanding of english is poor, I'm not arguing the word whole/all/full, but rather the intent of the saying.

One is saying "this can happen" one is saying "this has already happened."
Nothing wrong with my understanding.
R_Jackal posted...
"ACAB" saying is literally referencing ALL of them
Why did you capitalize "all"?

There's ample proof there's bad apples drive by-ing black children like the case of Tamir Rice. This has already happened.
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joe40001
04/24/21 1:27:33 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
IF Cops were good, why are there so many bad one that are still allowed on the force.

Because policing has institutional problems.

But surely your aren't making the claim that "If X% of something is bad, surely 100% is bad because how else could the X% be allowed to exist?"

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joe40001
04/24/21 1:28:29 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
Nothing wrong with my understanding.
Why did you capitalize "all"?

There's ample proof there's bad apples drive by-ing black children like the case of Tamir Rice. This has already happened.

I think the point is by definition ACAB is a generalization.

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tenlaar2
04/24/21 1:30:06 PM
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Gwynevere posted...
Policing in america has roots in rounding up slaves
The first municipal police department in the US was started in Boston in 1838, 55 years after slavery was made illegal in Massachusetts. The second was in New York City in 1845, again decades after slavery was outlawed. Southern slave patrols are only the "roots" of American policing if you intentionally ignore all the ways that it really isn't.
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Cerealmilk
04/24/21 1:32:47 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Why, so they can get there 15 minutes later, after the guy breaks down the door and killed me?

Imagine saying some shit like this and being pro gun control
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The Trent
04/24/21 1:35:21 PM
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Cerealmilk posted...
Imagine saying some shit like this and being pro gun control

CElutions

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gunplagirl
04/24/21 1:35:24 PM
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Cerealmilk posted...
Imagine saying some shit like this and being pro gun control
I'm for getting them out of hands of anyone with a history of domestic violence.

Everyone else, ESPECIALLY minorities like myself, should have them.

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R_Jackal
04/24/21 1:35:52 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
Why did you capitalize "all"?
A quick question, do you know what ACAB actually stands for?
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Omnislasher
04/24/21 1:35:59 PM
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The institution of policing is fundamentally bad, or misguided if you like, and rife with system racism and other discrimination, and thus all cops are, professionally, engaged in a bad enterprise regardless of whether or not they are to be judged as otherwise good or moral individuals.
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Gwynevere
04/24/21 1:38:43 PM
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tenlaar2 posted...
The first municipal police department in the US was started in Boston in 1838, 55 years after slavery was made illegal in Massachusetts. The second was in New York City in 1845, again decades after slavery was outlawed. Southern slave patrols are only the "roots" of American policing if you intentionally ignore all the ways that it really isn't.
And it isnt the roots of American policing if you ignore everything before 1838.

https://plsonline.eku.edu/insidelook/brief-history-slavery-and-origins-american-policing

Unless you think law enforcement in America didn't exist at all prior to then, in which case I really dont know what to tell you

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ROOTFayth
04/24/21 1:39:33 PM
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it is very clearly generalizing and anyone with even half of a brain would realize that lol
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joe40001
04/24/21 1:40:07 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
The institution of policing is fundamentally bad, or misguided if you like, and rife with system racism and other discrimination, and thus all cops are, professionally, engaged in a bad enterprise regardless of whether or not they are to be judged as otherwise good or moral individuals.

But that's not what ACAB means. It is an attack at the individual level.

Our country is flawed, yet we all participate in it, that doesn't make us equally flawed by association.

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