Poll of the Day > Hawaii banning plastic eating utensils.

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blu
04/08/21 7:11:39 PM
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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/04/01/new-city-rules-go-into-effect-restricting-disposable-plastic-food-ware-oahu-eateries/

Well, Oahu. Close enough.

Why is there so much effort into preventing straws and forks being made of plastic but we dont limit people driving big honking trucks, SUVs, and buying new vehicles every 7 years?
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Mead
04/08/21 7:23:24 PM
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I didnt even realize that utensils could eat plastic, or anything really

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Zareth
04/08/21 7:24:44 PM
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Reminds me of corporations pushing eco-friendly things on customers, like we're the ones who need to help protect the environment when they're the ones destroying it.

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Krazy_Kirby
04/08/21 7:28:07 PM
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stupid
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Mead
04/08/21 7:29:49 PM
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blu posted...
Why is there so much effort into preventing straws and forks being made of plastic but we dont limit people driving big honking trucks, SUVs, and buying new vehicles every 7 years?

Think about it. One person can go through several small things like plastic forks and straws or wrappers every day. All that stuff is small enough to fall through the cracks of society and the waste management infrastructure to end up just all over the place.

Compare that to a vehicle purchase which is often only bought every few years per household if even that often, in an industry that abundantly keeps tabs on vehicles through registration.

Not saying that the latter is a good thing and we should obviously be moving away from non-biodegradable plastics altogether, but obviously smaller single use plastics are one of the biggest scourges of the environment at the moment and one of the obvious targets for the early stages of holding manufacturing companies towards making more responsible choices.

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ParanoidObsessive
04/08/21 7:41:48 PM
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blu posted...
but we dont limit people driving big honking trucks, SUVs, and buying new vehicles every 7 years?

A better question is, why do we worry about the consumer level at all, when the vast majority of pollution and carbon production is happening on the industrial level?

Oh, wait, no, I already know the answer to that question. It's because politicians like to make meaningless gestures to fake the illusion of productivity without rocking the boat for the people who actually have money and matter.
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Mead
04/08/21 7:55:36 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
A better question is, why do we worry about the consumer level at all, when the vast majority of pollution and carbon production is happening on the industrial level?

we should be concerned with both

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adjl
04/08/21 7:59:05 PM
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Zareth posted...
Reminds me of corporations pushing eco-friendly things on customers, like we're the ones who need to help protect the environment when they're the ones destroying it.

A little while back, I saw a tweet from BP asking people to share the personal steps they were taking to reduce their carbon footprint, and somebody replied with "I pledge not to dump 5 million barrels of oil into the Gulf of Mexico." I approved rather wholeheartedly.

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ReturnOfFa
04/08/21 8:07:51 PM
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I agree with everyone saying that it's miniscule in comparison to other things, but it's still a good thing. Plastic utensils are dumb.

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MICHALECOLE
04/08/21 8:16:58 PM
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Wow so the libs are canceling plastic silverware? Whats next?
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Jen0125
04/08/21 8:20:50 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Wow so the libs are canceling plastic silverware? Whats next?

They can pry plastic tampon applicators from my cold dead hands

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Mead
04/08/21 8:30:33 PM
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Im not gonna ask what a tampon applicator is

but they should obviously just make them out of wood

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blu
04/08/21 8:39:49 PM
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Mead posted...
Im not gonna ask what a tampon applicator is

but they should obviously just make them out of wood

They make reusable ones I believe.
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JigsawTDC
04/08/21 8:42:34 PM
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My search for a reusable tampon applicator mostly brings results for diva cup like products, but it does seem there is a company called Dame who have Kickstarted a project for the first reusable tampon applicator.
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lihlih
04/08/21 8:50:44 PM
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blu posted...
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/04/01/new-city-rules-go-into-effect-restricting-disposable-plastic-food-ware-oahu-eateries/

Well, Oahu. Close enough.

Why is there so much effort into preventing straws and forks being made of plastic but we dont limit people driving big honking trucks, SUVs, and buying new vehicles every 7 years?


A lot of other first world countries have an MPG that car makers have to hit by a certain year. We don't have one because of dumbass Trump.
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MICHALECOLE
04/08/21 8:55:39 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
They can pry plastic tampon applicators from my cold dead hands
I heard theyre just gonna ban tampons
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LinkPizza
04/08/21 9:49:54 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
Plastic utensils are dumb.

I like them and use them quite regularly. So does my bf. But we also dont live in Hawaii...
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Zareth
04/08/21 10:32:09 PM
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adjl posted...
A little while back, I saw a tweet from BP asking people to share the personal steps they were taking to reduce their carbon footprint, and somebody replied with "I pledge not to dump 5 million barrels of oil into the Gulf of Mexico." I approved rather wholeheartedly.
Yeah that tweet kind of inspired me there haha.

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adjl
04/08/21 10:52:47 PM
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Zareth posted...
Yeah that tweet kind of inspired me there haha.

There are other examples, of course, but that one illustrated the hypocrisy quite magnificently.

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JOExHIGASHI
04/08/21 10:56:11 PM
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blu posted...
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/04/01/new-city-rules-go-into-effect-restricting-disposable-plastic-food-ware-oahu-eateries/

Well, Oahu. Close enough.

Why is there so much effort into preventing straws and forks being made of plastic but we dont limit people driving big honking trucks, SUVs, and buying new vehicles every 7 years?
Probably it's because plastic eating utensils ruin the scenery so bad and it's a state that relies on tourism.

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MICHALECOLE
04/09/21 1:17:37 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
I like them and use them quite regularly. So does my bf. But we also dont live in Hawaii...
Are you one of those psychos who goes to a restaurant and asks for plastic utensils?

because those people are the worst and if thats you link you can fuck right off
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MICHALECOLE
04/09/21 1:39:20 AM
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Wait a second, @LinkPizza we all know youre gay, but youre black too, arent you? Or am I trippin?
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FatalAccident
04/09/21 1:44:11 AM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Wait a second, @LinkPizza we all know youre gay, but youre black too, arent you? Or am I trippin?
lol yeah, he is black and gay.

Whats that gotta do with anything though sheesh

This guy huh???

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MICHALECOLE
04/09/21 1:48:46 AM
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FatalAccident posted...
lol yeah, he is black and gay.

Whats that gotta do with anything though sheesh

This guy huh???
Because as a restaurant worker I can go ahead and let you know that 90% of the people who ask for plastic silverware when we have metal silverware are black

and I wanna know why, so now I can ask the guy who knows!
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FatalAccident
04/09/21 1:51:58 AM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Because as a restaurant worker I can go ahead and let you know that 90% of the people who ask for plastic silverware when we have metal silverware are black

and I wanna know why, so now I can ask the guy who knows!
I mean like

i dont even know how true this can be lol but Ill take your word for it

Idk why we dont just have bamboo or wood utensils? Surely thats like the easiest thing in the world to do, if nobodys doing that ima be a billionaire from it

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Revelation34
04/09/21 1:55:49 AM
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MICHALECOLE posted...

Because as a restaurant worker I can go ahead and let you know that 90% of the people who ask for plastic silverware when we have metal silverware are black

and I wanna know why, so now I can ask the guy who knows!


I doubt this happened or COVID.
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ultra magnus13
04/09/21 1:59:41 AM
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JOExHIGASHI posted...

Probably it's because plastic eating utensils ruin the scenery so bad and it's a state that relies on tourism.


Yeah, I'm inclined to believe this is more about reducing litter, than saving the planet.
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streamofthesky
04/09/21 2:01:11 AM
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Well, it's annoying to adapt to but it's probably best for the good of the planet....

Its an amendment to the plastic bag ban from 2018 to now include restrictions on the use and sale of polystyrene foam food ware, disposable plastic food ware, and disposable plastic service ware.

The idea is to get business to move to fossil fuel-free utensils made of bioplastic, paper, or other renewable materials.

...Ok, never mind. If it's not requiring the replacements to be biodegradable, there's not much point.

https://www.greenbiz.com/article/are-bioplastics-really-better-environment-read-fine-print
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Mead
04/09/21 2:05:03 AM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Are you one of those psychos who goes to a restaurant and asks for plastic utensils?

because those people are the worst and if thats you link you can fuck right off

oh fuck I call it cutlery because of cooking school

had a chef that was always going on and on about how if it isnt silver it should be called cutlery and I was dumb and young so I just adopted it

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Zareth
04/09/21 2:06:20 AM
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Pretty sure "silver"ware hasn't been in use since the creation of stainless steel, but we still call it as such.

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Mead
04/09/21 2:07:48 AM
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Zareth posted...
Pretty sure "silver"ware hasn't been in use since the creation of stainless steel, but we still call it as such.

I dont

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MICHALECOLE
04/09/21 2:28:28 AM
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FatalAccident posted...
I mean like

i dont even know how true this can be lol but Ill take your word for it

Idk why we dont just have bamboo or wood utensils? Surely thats like the easiest thing in the world to do, if nobodys doing that ima be a billionaire from it
The plastic silverware Im currently ordering at work is supposedly made from corn according to the box

Revelation34 posted...
I doubt this happened or COVID.
You doubt what happened?
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Jornavyr
04/09/21 2:33:23 AM
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Yeah this already happened in my country. Paper straws have been introduced as an alternative, and they are fucking disgusting. Wooden forks and spoons are the replacement for plastic, and it just doesn't work.

But hey, at least there will never ever be another piece of plastic dumped into the sea again. Countries like India and those in South East Asia will surely see all our efforts and respond in kind, right?

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Mead
04/09/21 2:34:57 AM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
You doubt what happened?

COVID!

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MICHALECOLE
04/09/21 2:35:48 AM
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Mead posted...
COVID!
Oh..

well Ill be the first to tell you, and I know this is controversial, but COVID definitely happened
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LinkPizza
04/09/21 9:16:57 AM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Are you one of those psychos who goes to a restaurant and asks for plastic utensils?

because those people are the worst and if thats you link you can fuck right off

Why would I ask for plastic utensils at a restaurant?
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FatalAccident
04/09/21 9:30:05 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
Why would I ask for plastic utensils at a restaurant?
b/c youre black lol

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Fierce_Deity_08
04/09/21 9:40:28 AM
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Wow, someone beat Berkeley, California to something for once. They were the ones who started the plastic bag ban and wanted to tax sugared drinks. Mostly idiots there.

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Dikitain
04/09/21 9:40:35 AM
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I always found the concept of a straw to be stupid anyways. Unless you are a young child or are physically incapable of drinking normally you should never be using a straw. That's what lids were invented for, and you are going to be sucking down a hell of a lot less bacteria using one of those.

As for plastic utensils, eh. They are somewhat convenient but I could live without them. Just don't replace them with something that falls apart anytime it gets wet.

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LinkPizza
04/09/21 10:04:18 AM
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FatalAccident posted...
b/c youre black lol

I guess so...
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Krazy_Kirby
04/09/21 10:21:13 AM
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what if you had one with you when you landed?
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SunWuKung420
04/09/21 11:46:33 AM
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I only use wooden utensils. Much more sustainable and environmentally friendly.

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ReturnOfFa
04/09/21 11:50:22 AM
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I simply use my hands. I have defeated everyone.

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darkknight109
04/09/21 11:57:40 AM
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blu posted...
Why is there so much effort into preventing straws and forks being made of plastic but we dont limit people driving big honking trucks, SUVs, and buying new vehicles every 7 years?
Two different issues.

Disposable plastic deals with waste and the fact that we're generating a bunch of single-use stuff that will take longer to biodegrade than the likely lifespan of our entire species. Cars/vehicles deal with carbon emissions and climate change.

They're related but separate.

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Revelation34
04/09/21 1:03:16 PM
#45:


MICHALECOLE posted...

The plastic silverware Im currently ordering at work is supposedly made from corn according to the box

You doubt what happened?


Autocorrect somehow turned "before" into "or"

Dikitain posted...
I always found the concept of a straw to be stupid anyways. Unless you are a young child or are physically incapable of drinking normally you should never be using a straw. That's what lids were invented for, and you are going to be sucking down a hell of a lot less bacteria using one of those.

As for plastic utensils, eh. They are somewhat convenient but I could live without them. Just don't replace them with something that falls apart anytime it gets wet.


What's wrong with sucking down your own bacteria?
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MICHALECOLE
04/09/21 1:07:15 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Why would I ask for plastic utensils at a restaurant?
I dont know why ANYBODY would, but you said you like plastic utensils

also because youre black
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Krazy_Kirby
04/09/21 2:41:30 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
I only use wooden utensils. Much more sustainable and environmentally friendly.


not moreso than metal. metal lasts longer, and you don't chop down trees to make them
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ReturnOfFa
04/09/21 2:44:15 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
I dont know why ANYBODY would, but you said you like plastic utensils

also because youre black
can you chill?

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SunWuKung420
04/09/21 2:50:27 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
not moreso than metal. metal lasts longer, and you don't chop down trees to make them
Metal takes more resources to produce, usually at the expense of burning wood.

I can make wooden utensils without chopping down a tree with a stone blade.

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ArvTheGreat
04/09/21 2:58:51 PM
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Good now whales wont be eating forks and spoons.

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