Poll of the Day > My customers loved the corned beef pizza I designed.

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UnknownNobody posted...

I definitely used more than a several hours.

Right on, fantastic! How many hours was it that you boiled your salted brisket?

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https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=fresh+corned+beef

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=minimally+cured+corned+beef

keep plugging words together that normally don't go together \_()_/

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IronBornCorps posted...

What else comes on the pizza?

When I saw the title it made me think Rueben. Which is not a pizza style I have seen before, yet also would be curious to try. Either way, corned beef could be good on pizza, I believe the feedback.

I olive oiled the pizza round and sprinkle it with garlic. Placed a small layer of mozzarella. Sprinkled some red onion. Lightly coated with oiled seasoned raw shredded brussel sprouts. Layered the corned beer on top then placed large shavings of Swiss cheese over all of it.

After a hot and fast 3 minute bake, I drizzled a mild horseradish sauce to finish.

I'll still eat it, just so ya know :p

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Fa, all corned or salted beer started with fresh beef. Whether I do it in 2 days or canned for months, doesn't make it not corned beef if I'm using typical corned beef seasonings and utilizing a prolonged preparation method.

I am curious as to our culinary expert @adjl 's opinion here: is cooking sous vide for a few hours the equivalent to an actual 10-day salt brine cure?

UnknownNobody posted...

Keep eating your canned salted meat.

i never eat corned beef, I dont really like it very much. now whos being unnecessarily hostile?

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I think I would enjoy a corned-beef pizza. I'm imagining it paired with Thousand Island, Swiss cheese and caraway seed flavors, like a Reuben.

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UnknownNobody posted...

Fa, all corned or salted beer started with fresh beef. Whether I do it in 2 days or canned for months, doesn't make it not corned beef if I'm using typical corned beef seasonings and utilizing a prolonged preparation method.

buddy, what is with you moving the goalposts around haphazardly here?

now: we're comparing "2 days and canned for months"!?

then: we were comparing "more than a [sic] several hours" to 10 days XD.

5 days in some circumstances....10 in the first example you posted :/. Dry cures are possible in a full day if you bury your meat in salt. I also see wet curing methods that are a couple of days. Those are real methods of curing unlike the word salad you tossed together.

oh here's another "Curing" definition....

"Curing is any of various food preservation and flavoring processes of foods such as meat, fish and vegetables, by the addition of salt, with the aim of drawing moisture out of the food by the process of osmosis."

much respect to Alton Brown also btw. great man.

I'm sure it was tasty, that drizzle sounds dank, but come!!! On!!! Brothaaaahhh!!!!!

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lol this topic

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FatalAccident posted...

lol this topic

why am i dying on this hill

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ReturnOfFa posted...

buddy, what is with you moving the goalposts around haphazardly here?

now: we're comparing "2 days and canned for months"!?

then: we were comparing "more than a [sic] several hours" to 10 days XD.

5 days in some circumstances....10 in the first example you posted :/. Dry cures are possible in a full day if you bury your meat in salt. I also see wet curing methods that are a couple of days. Those are real methods of curing unlike the word salad you tossed together.

oh here's another "Curing" definition....

"Curing is any of various food preservation and flavoring processes of foods such as meat, fish and vegetables, by the addition of salt, with the aim of drawing moisture out of the food by the process of osmosis."

much respect to Alton Brown also btw. great man.

I'm sure it was tasty, that drizzle sounds dank, but come!!! On!!! Brothaaaahhh!!!!!

i completely agree with you, he operates very loosely with the well defined term of curing, ok?

and ive watched enough chopped to know they would lambast him for misrepresenting the method to customers, ok?

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ReturnOfFa posted...

buddy, what is with you moving the goalposts around haphazardly here?

I did no such thing.

DirtBasedSoap posted...

i never eat corned beef, I dont really like it very much. now whos being unnecessarily hostile?

Clench

UnknownNobody posted...

I did no such thing.

Clench

now: we're comparing "2 days and canned for months"!?

then: we were comparing "more than a [sic] several hours" to 10 days

Clench is being...hostile??? Asking for clarification and getting a bunch of defensive explanations back that skirt around specifics is 'unnecessarily hostile'? lmfao just explain what you did and accept the reality of your boiled brisket. or was it in a sous vide bag? perhaps we'll never know XD

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ReturnOfFa posted...

now: we're comparing "2 days and canned for months"!?

then: we were comparing "more than a [sic] several hours" to 10 days

Clench is being...hostile??? Asking for clarification and getting a bunch of defensive explanations back that skirt around specifics is 'unnecessarily hostile'? lmfao just explain what you did and accept the reality of your boiled brisket. or was it in a sous vide bag? perhaps we'll never know XD

Those are examples of corned beef preparation, not moving goal posts.

Yes, he was being hostile because I didn't use military rations.

"Military rations" = real corned beef

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UnknownNobody posted...

Those are examples of corned beef preparation, not moving goal posts.

Yes, he was being hostile because I didn't use military rations.

YOU changed the comparison from "more than several hours vs. 10 days" to "2 days vs canned for months"

YOU changed the comparison. This is hilarious. I've finally met someone more stubborn than my own mother.

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shadowsword87 posted...

Clench, I have discovered a new type of pickle.
I take a cucumber, get it wet, and tada, a pickle.

Should we all sign an NDA so we can't disclose your new secret pickle recipe and cash in on your genius?

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I do love how Sunny makes it sound like everything he does is the best thing ever and only he can do it. I mean he made a Corned Beef pizza that sounds good because pizza and corned beef but also it's his job. However "designed" is a very odd way to phrase this and makes it sound much more better than it actually is.

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Is there a photo of the pizza?

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JOExHIGASHI posted...

Is there a photo of the pizza?

I found this one through google and it looks like Sunny took the photo because of the terrible lighting and camera placement.

I admit these topics would be better with actual pics. Sadly Sunny probably signed a NDA.

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Without reading the topic, I can guess how the past 70 posts went.

Sunny said some dumb shit, people started dumping on him, sunny started doubling down, people continued dumping on him, and then just repeat that cycle like... probably 5 or 6 times by this point.

Someone tell me how hard I nailed it.

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TheOkHornedRat posted...

Someone tell me how hard I nailed it.

You nailed it as hard as I nail your mum.


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wwinterj25 posted...

You nailed it as hard as I nail your mum.

Jokes on you, I have 2 dads.

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TheOkHornedRat posted...

Jokes on you, I have 2 dads.

If one of your dads wants to be called a "mum" I don't judge.

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TheOkHornedRat posted...

Without reading the topic, I can guess how the past 70 posts went.

Sunny said some dumb shit, people started dumping on him, sunny started doubling down, people continued dumping on him, and then just repeat that cycle like... probably 5 or 6 times by this point.

Someone tell me how hard I nailed it.

you might be complete correct

but you should definitely read 70 posts about the technicalities of corned beef ;)

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Does sunwukong have an alt?

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JOExHIGASHI posted...

Does sunwukong have an alt?

No not at all...

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ReturnOfFa posted...

you might be complete correct

but you should definitely read 70 posts about the technicalities of corned beef ;)

Ive now read the first page and I can extrapolate from there.

Sunny denies corned beef is salty
Sunny denies corned beef must be cured
Sunny debates defininitions on curing and corning to try to justify the claims he made which he now knows to be false.
Sunny says dictionary definitions are bullshit, and he knows better than they do anyways.

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wwinterj25 posted...

If one of your dads wants to be called a "mum" I don't judge.

I call them both daddy, and now you're just being homophobic

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TheOkHornedRat posted...

I call them both daddy, and now you're just being homophobic

Nah. I just like when your daddy dresses up....

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Wildly homophobic. The mods better ban you.

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JigsawTDC posted...

I am curious as to our culinary expert @adjl 's opinion here: is cooking sous vide for a few hours the equivalent to an actual 10-day salt brine cure?

I'd hardly call myself a culinary expert, but I wouldn't say so. I don't doubt that you can get a good product that way, nor one with a similar enough flavour to make it usable in contexts where you might use the real thing, but you're not curing the meat. By definition, curing is a form of preservation that doesn't cook the meat, instead drying it out and creating a hostile environment that prevents microbes from growing. This can be done without salt (sugar, smoke, pure nitrates/nitrites if you don't care about poisoning yourself), and sometimes it's done at the same time as cooking it (namely, smoking, but that's a specific process), but the bottom line is that, if you're cooking the meat, you're not curing it.

That said, I think that making a product that's similar to corned beef but is prepared differently to be less salty is going to be a good idea for some applications, including putting it on a pizza. He may be using the terminology wrong, since this clearly is not authentic corned beef (and, actually, you should be wary about calling it such on a menu because you may fall into food fraud territory if you do), but Sunny's approach to making this pizza sounds quite sensible.

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Yeah, for the record: I think the actual pizza itself is probably great.
I love some corned beef, and even when it's, more or less, fake, it's still good.

TonyCIifton posted...

I found this one through google and it looks like Sunny took the photo because of the terrible lighting and camera placement.

agreed, but i think we all know that larry will make a better corned beef pizza, ok?

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ClarkDuke posted...

agreed, but i think we all know that larry will make a better corned beef pizza, ok?

No doubt, Clark. I think everyone here knows that Larry is by far the greatest pizza chef of this board.

TonyCIifton posted...

No doubt, Clark. I think everyone here knows that Larry is by far the greatest pizza chef of this board.

Agreed. I want to see more of Larrys creations.

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TonyCIifton posted...

No doubt, Clark. I think everyone here knows that Larry is by far the greatest pizza chef of this board.

oh for sure, tony. we can only wait with bated breath for larrys masterpiece to be shared with the world, ok?

not to mention, larrys topics always contain photographic evidence and no salty ndas, ok?

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You should get some dough and pour shredded lettuce and carrots on it then put it in the oven and call it "Artisanal Vegan Pizza".
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Revelation34 posted...

You should get some dough and pour shredded lettuce and carrots on it then put it in the oven and call it "Artisanal Vegan Pizza".

Or you could use fresh cabbage and cook it just a little. Boom! Instant sour kraut

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Clench281 posted...

Or you could use fresh cabbage and cook it just a little. Boom! Instant sour kraut

rip me

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Clench281 posted...

Or you could use fresh cabbage and cook it just a little. Boom! Instant sour kraut

I bet cabbage would be good on a pizza actually.
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Man, this is one salty topic


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did i ever tell you guys about the smoked ham i made the other day

so i took an unsmoked hamsteak and i put it in a pan and cooked it and then ate it

it was the most delicious smoked ham ive ever had

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I cant believe this stupid motherfucker is allegedly going to have a child

Cacciato posted...

I cant believe this stupid motherfucker is allegedly going to have a child

at least the baby will have hot freshly prepared not corned beef pizza on demand, designed with passion

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This is the same motherfucker who literally talks about himself in third person lmaooo

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ReturnOfFa posted...

at least the baby will have hot freshly prepared not corned beef pizza on demand, designed with passion

I'm kinda jealous ngl.

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