Board 8 > MCU General: Up Next The Falcon and The Winter Soldier

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I do think 30 dollars is really steep for a single person which is the main problem here

That doesn't necessarily mean I think it's a skeezy business model though

$30 is just a lot of money to watch a movie a single time. I can buy a brand new 4K physical bluray for less. I'd much rather just spend like $6-7 on a matinee.

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Waluigi1 posted...

$30 is just a lot of money to watch a movie a single time. I can buy a brand new 4K physical bluray for less.

$30 gets it for as long as you have an active subscription.

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

$30 gets it for as long as you have an active subscription.

Until it hits regular D+ you mean. Oh and that's another thing is paying for D+ already on top of the $30. Just so much money!

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Waluigi1 posted...

Until it hits regular D+ you mean. Oh and that's another thing is paying for D+ already on top of the $30. Just so much money!

You would still need an active subscription to watch it when it is no longer premium access. I mean doing the math, Disney+ for the month and the $30 price tag is still significantly cheaper for me and my family than actually going to the theater, so I have a tough time thinking there is anything wrong with this model.

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Also keep in mind while it screws the party of 1, its a huge bargain for say the party of 6+.

Especially with people able to safely mix a bit more with vaccinations.

Its just a bit hard to come up with a suitable one size fits all business model. Here in SoCal it basically breaks even with a theater visit at 2 people.

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yeah this is a bad deal for me in my current living situation, but I dont begrudge them for the price point
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I was only opposed to this when it was Mulan, because fuck China and that movie.

Im indifferent to it generally, but will gladly pay out if its a movie Im anticipating.

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I mean it is more money than other movies are doing. Like there were a few movies that debuted on streaming rental/purchase last year and the standard for those was $20 for a rental or $25 to own. $30 to get access 3 months early on an active subscription is more money for less access than the "own" option.

Now you could argue that Disney, and particularly Marvel, makes bigger-deal movies that can command a higher price than, say, Bill & Ted Face the Music, but it is a difference and it's certainly one that someone could decide is too much.

Personally I don't care for the streaming vs theater price comparisons, especially when people start comparing prices for families to make the streaming seem like a bargain. The theater experience is just *different* than the streaming experience, and a family situation makes that particularly true.

MrGreenonion posted...

Personally I don't care for the streaming vs theater price comparisons,

This is the comparison though. Because the alternative is these studios just stop making movies and wait til theaters are profitable again to continue production.

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MrGreenonion posted...

I mean it is more money than other movies are doing. Like there were a few movies that debuted on streaming rental/purchase last year and the standard for those was $20 for a rental or $25 to own. $30 to get access 3 months early on an active subscription is more money for less access than the "own" option.

I don't think it's meaningful to compare the prices between competitors when deciding if its "the right" price or a fair price. These services are all trying to figure out what people will pay - all of these examples are just tests at this point.

The truth is, general service streaming subscriptions *are not* going to pay for the budgets for big blockbuster movies. That's typically been covered by the box office of the first couple weeks a movie is in theatres. If movies theatres don't recover to the strength they used to be, then studios may not be able to produce movies like they have... unless they can figure out a way to get people to pay through fees like this to stream it at release.

So studios are going to see if they can charge these prices, and people will decide if they will pay them. If enough do, then maybe it will be enough to keep making blockbuster movies. If not, we may not see big budget movies anymore.

I know people have an expectation of just getting things for free or cheaply on the internet but something has to pay for things to get made. I think comparing to the cost of what it would have cost to see it at the theatre isn't too unreasonable.

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scarletspeed7 posted...

That is not legit the stupidest thing Board 8 regularly complains about. Contests.

I will fight you

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I will take an infinite amount of claps at the end of a movie if it means I never have to hear a clap when a flight lands. Truly the worst of claps. You're literally clapping because the pilot did the bare minimum of what their job requires. It's like clapping when the person at McDonalds hands you your food.

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Imagine getting butthurt over applause at the end of a movie. Imagine being that guy.

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Clapping when a flight lands is definitely better than clapping for a movie, since the people actually involved with the flight are there to hear it, whereas in the latter you're just clapping at a screen.

That said, neither are bad.

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They're both various degrees of corny but the airplane one is more so

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I don't even think either are corny. It's just one's rather pointless. Like, I'd actually say clapping for somebody at McDonald's has more value than clapping for a movie, because the whole point of clapping is to show appreciation, which you can't do with a movie since there's literally nobody there. It'd be like clapping for a movie you just watched alone in your room on HBO.

But like said, it being pointless doesn't mean it's bad or annoying or anything. It's just a thing.

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oh I don't think it's bad either, but I still absolutely think it's corny

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I see episode 1 was the most watched episode of anything on Disney+

Sorry Mandalorian and Wandavision

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LeonhartFour posted...

I will fight you

would*

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I don't care either way about clapping at anything, but lets be real

the reason people clap at a movie is to let the complete strangers around you know that you enjoyed it

and when everyone claps it's so you can all feel justified in your feeling about a film. "yay we all loved it that means i'm in the right of loving it!"

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maybe it's to wake up any stragglers to let them know the movie ended

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GuessMyUserName posted...

maybe it's to wake up any stragglers to let them know the movie ended

clearly those people have never had the pleasure of walking out of an almost empty theater and seeing some poor guy asleep in the back, knowing some poor 16 year old kid is going to struggle for a minute or two about the best way to wake up a stranger

it's why i go to theaters

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StealThisSheen posted...

Like, I'd actually say clapping for somebody at McDonald's

but nobody claps for somebody at mcdonald's.

if a mcdonald's employee hands you your food and you clap for them, you would be seen as an obnoxious idiot. yet when you clap when a pilot lands a plane, it's seen as totally normal. why?

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

but nobody claps for somebody at mcdonald's.

if a mcdonald's employee hands you your food and you clap for them, you would be seen as an obnoxious idiot. yet when you clap when a pilot lands a plane, it's seen as totally normal. why?

Because Americans are fucking weird man.

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Clap for the Pilot because he didn't kill you

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Because Americans are fucking weird man.

can confirm that europeans do this too

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

can confirm that europeans do this too

Really. I've been on a handful of flights and never has anyone clapped.

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I've never been in a movie theater or an airplane where people clapped at the end

I've been on one flight where they clapped, it came at the end of some heavy turbulence. I took it as "Thanks for getting us out of that alive"

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DeathChicken posted...

I've been on one flight where they clapped, it came at the end of some heavy turbulence. I took it as "Thanks for getting us out of that alive"

huh, i've never been on a flight where people clapped while still in the air. that's a thing?

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

but nobody claps for somebody at mcdonald's.

if a mcdonald's employee hands you your food and you clap for them, you would be seen as an obnoxious idiot. yet when you clap when a pilot lands a plane, it's seen as totally normal. why?

Because there's a massive difference between "someone made you a big mac" and "someone successful piloted you thousands of feet in the air and made sure you landed in a non-fiery non-crashing way." One takes a long-ass time with certified training and a significant salary, whereas the other one takes a week of training by the shift leader that makes barely above the minimum wage.

You can guess which is which.

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Also clapping at a movie theater is just a holdover from clapping at live theater performances. Some things just became really deeply ingrained in our culture.

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I have flown hundreds of times, and have never once heard anyone clap when it landed. I didn't know it was a thing until I saw people complaining about it

Clapping in the cinema is fine with me. It's especially fine now because the whole "they aren't even there to see it" criticism isn't necessarily true, because with social media it can actually make it to the actors in question. For as much as I wouldn't want to actually watch the movie there because I wouldn't have been able to hear the thing, the reactions in some Indian theatres to like Infinity War or Endgame are great and I'm pretty sure have been appreciated by the actors.

I've only heard clapping during the end of Rogue One, in London a day after it came out (and that was probably because Rogue One's last 2 minutes are very crowd-pleasing), and for Endgame when Cap picked up Mjolnir and that was really just a smattering of applause.
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Yeah that moment of Endgame got some cheering out of the theater, but even then people didn't clap at the end. I dunno, clapping at the end of a movie might just REALLY not be a thing where I live.

It really only takes 1 person to start it then everyone else will follow

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Paratroopa1 posted...

Yeah that moment of Endgame got some cheering out of the theater, but even then people didn't clap at the end. I dunno, clapping at the end of a movie might just REALLY not be a thing where I live.

Honestly, with the ridiculous credits and then the signatures, Endgame was actively courting applause.
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I think I've only been in one or two movies where people applauded at the end. Never been on a flight where it happened.

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TheRock1525 posted...

Because there's a massive difference between "someone made you a big mac" and "someone successful piloted you thousands of feet in the air and made sure you landed in a non-fiery non-crashing way." One takes a long-ass time with certified training and a significant salary, whereas the other one takes a week of training by the shift leader that makes barely above the minimum wage.

You can guess which is which.

so should i have clapped for my surgeon too when he finished operating my broken wrist without killing me?

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if I could clap in that situation I would but it would probably hurt

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I haven't had any clapping on the small amount of Domestic Canadian flights I've been on, but I'm 6/6 on hearing them on International flights. Maybe it's an old European thing because it always seems to be the old people that start it.

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I've been on around 120 flights. I remember it happening on two international TWA flights, but that was obviously a long time ago. And one 10 years ago to Florida, Boston-Ft Lauderdale in February, the pilot announced the temperatures, so it wasn't like some spontaneous applause.


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Mr Lasastryke posted...

so should i have clapped for my surgeon too when he finished operating my broken wrist without killing me?

Starting to see why you broke your wrist in the first place.

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you really shouldn't clap your hands if you have a broken wrist, that seems fairly obvious.

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From what I gather, clapping in theaters is a lot more common in places like LA than say, Ohio.

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XIII_rocks posted...

I've only heard clapping during the end of Rogue One, in London a day after it came out (and that was probably because Rogue One's last 2 minutes are very crowd-pleasing)

My god, the worst part of a dull film got clapping.

This is why stuff like Solo and Rise of Skywalker gets made >.>

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The most clapping I've heard was opening night Fellowship, when Aragorn first showed up in his shadowy corner of the inn.

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neonreaper posted...

The most clapping I've heard was opening night Fellowship, when Aragorn first showed up in his shadowy corner of the inn.

Same movie, except when he beheaded that orc.

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