Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 367: Cuomophobic

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Get this guy out of office ASAP please
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https://twitter.com/garbageape/status/1367121393683484672?s=21

Last unprompted Neera post, promise

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I do not love a visit from this garbage ape

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

https://twitter.com/garbageape/status/1367121393683484672?s=21

Last unprompted Neera post, promise

Most funny when you consider the person who is very likely to replace Neera lol

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I know that people hate him too, but I mostly want Cuomo to resign so that DeBlasio gets the last laugh in the end.

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I dont doubt that Cuomo is a big enough jerk to try to stick this thing out as long as possible.

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

https://twitter.com/garbageape/status/1367121393683484672?s=21

Last unprompted Neera post, promise

The hilarious part is that by all accounts Bernie was going to play nice and vote to confirm her. Manchin is the one that effectively tanked Neera.

But because resistance libs are braindead mongloids on the level of Trumpers, they blame Sanders for Tanden's nomination failure.

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https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/1367134476472565762?s=21

Sheesh Dems
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So in order to please moderate Dems, they are literally giving less money than Trump AND making $2000 checks objectively a lie, rather than a semantic one.

lmao sick, dumbass piece of shit party

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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/1367134476472565762?s=21

Sheesh Dems

For what little it's worth, I've seen some claims saying that the Democrats have to do this to meet the requirements for reconciliation. But yeah, this is an awful idea and they're going to end up pissing off a lot of people. It's disgusting that a few "moderate" Dems are forcing the rest of the party to go along with crap like this just to keep up the filibuster around. I hope they're happy in 2025 when kneecapping the Democrats leads to total GOP control of government with a filibuster-proof Senate majority.
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/1367134476472565762?s=21

Sheesh Dems

as someone who was making $80k+ but lost their job at the end of last year, this sucks!

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Xeybozn posted...

For what little it's worth, I've seen some claims saying that the Democrats have to do this to meet the requirements for reconciliation. But yeah, this is an awful idea and they're going to end up pissing off a lot of people. It's disgusting that a few "moderate" Dems are forcing the rest of the party to go along with crap like this just to keep up the filibuster around. I hope they're happy in 2025 when kneecapping the Democrats leads to total GOP control of government with a filibuster-proof Senate majority.

Hope they're happy in 2023 when Republicans get control of the House and Senate and impeach Biden!

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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/1367134476472565762?s=21

Sheesh Dems

Wat

Xeybozn posted...

. I hope they're happy in 2025 when kneecapping the Democrats leads to total GOP control of government with a filibuster-proof Senate majority.

They are because they dont care about the party as long as they keep their own seat.

This is kind of pathetic how they keep finding new lows to what should be the easiest, no-brainer thing to push through.

Why not reform this to reflect 2020 and not 2019 too?

Like fuck. Just give people money. Just fucking do it. You're going to give a ton of companies money they don't need--just give it to people who need it. This is so simple. You threw away the minimum wage in this, and then you go ahead and give people LESS money. How do you somehow make things WORSE?

Also the $1400 + $600 people are probably the grossest democrats out there. The fact that anyone actually parades that around is beyond pathetic and just shows what boot licking, braindead morons they are, and they're going to be the ones treating people like idiots when election time comes around, because it's not about semantics. It's about giving people money to live during a pandemic, not about a "well actually" argument. Nobody cares about "well actually". Just give people money to live. It's that easy, and they just keep walking back reasons to allow people to have money to live better lives during a pandemic and past it.

I expected Biden to disappoint and not deliver, but somehow he continues to exceed my expectations. Just completely pitiful from him and the Senate right now.

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Anyway the sky is not falling. Something tells me people making $75000+ will be fine.

And not losing the $100 on unemployment was more important.

Leafeon13N posted...

Anyway the sky is not falling. Something tells me people making $75000+ will be fine.

And not losing the $100 on unemployment was more important.

Anyway so this is the kind of democrat I'm talking about.

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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Anyway so this is the kind of democrat I'm talking about.

Don't worry he got funding for his dam. He is fine.

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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Anyway so this is the kind of democrat I'm talking about.

You seem to think i like this.

This was the unfortunate bridge we built when not enough Senate seats were won.

Leafeon13N posted...

Anyway the sky is not falling. Something tells me people making $75000+ will be fine.

Just because someone made that much in 2019, doesn't mean they didn't struggle in 2020. This is a bad take.

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Dancedreamer posted...

Just because someone made that much in 2019, doesn't mean they didn't struggle in 2020. This is a bad take.

Is this one based entirely on 2019 income?

I dont know the specifics here, to be clear. I know some people were able to recoup the last stimulus payments via their taxes, admittedly not sure if there are similar provisions here.

Mind you this is way better than Republicans who are the worst but democrats could make the argument a lot easier

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Leafeon13N posted...

You seem to think i like this.

This was the unfortunate bridge we built when not enough Senate seats were won.

Maybe this bridge shouldn't also be made out of "Vote the way we want and you'll get $2000 immediately!*/**/***/****/*****"

*$1400
**But not anytime immediate
***Also phase out system instead
****Also I'm going to fight for you to get less
*****lol poors actually think we care about them holy shit what idiots we barely have to pretend to care about them

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Mind you this is way better than Republicans who are the worst but democrats could make the argument a lot easier

Our 50th vote is a moderate in what is turning into a deeper red state desperately trying to show their fealty by being an obstructionist fuck.

And they are still probably going to lose when up for re election.

Leafeon13N posted...

Our 50th vote is a moderate in what is turning into a deeper red state desperately trying to show their fealty by being an obstructionist fuck.

And they are still probably going to lose when up for re election.

This bill is the most popular bill in the country In 14 years. Please stop spouting bullshit you hear on random shows

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This is just such a stupid move by Senate Dems. The bill has 75% support nationwide and the checks are the most popular part of it. What do? Reduce eligibility?

Hopefully the House stands firm and fights for this in conference but if the handful of Senate D ~moderates~ stand firm on this they might not be able to win this fight.

Also GOP looking to pull stall tactics on this bill by apparently planning to force the clerk to read the full text of the bill instead of letting the standard operating procedure of dispensing with it via unanimous consent instead. I don't think it will meaningfully affect the timetable (but still likely to take up hours) but it's just so petty.

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

This bill is the most popular bill in the country In 14 years. Please stop spouting bullshit you hear on random shows

I dont really watch any political shows.

Leafeon13N posted...

I dont really watch any political shows.

Okay then stop making up fake opinions in your own head

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Okay then stop making up fake opinions in your own head

What was fake?

That this is about supporters back home. This bill is wildly popular. They just hate poor people.

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I dont think i even gave an opinion here. You were questioning a post where i called Manchin a moderate shitbag.

Your opinion was this move is about showing fealty to voters. Voters even in West Virginia like this bill.

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My biggest issue with the bill is once again it has no cost of living adjustments

Government just takes the laziest approach every time. Dumb that the NYC income limit and Mississippi limit is the same.

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Leafeon13N posted...

Our 50th vote is a moderate in what is turning into a deeper red state desperately trying to show their fealty by being an obstructionist fuck.

And they are still probably going to lose when up for re election.

See, that last part is what really annoys me about Manchin. The only way is doesn't lose in his next election is if he decides to retire instead of running again. What does he have to gain from blocking everything? At least Sinema can claim this stuff could help her keep her seat. (Though that's not a great argument when the other AZ senator seems to disagree.)
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"Anyway the sky is not falling" on the constant sliding back of just giving people money during a pandemic is an opinion.

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Leafeon13N posted...

They are because they dont care about the party as long as they keep their own seat.

This is what fucks me up though because they have to know that some of them are going to lose their seats by doing this. They have to know doing nothing is a terrible strategy for them. Do they all just think it's going to happen to someone else?

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Your opinion was this move is about showing fealty to voters. Voters even in West Virginia like this bill.

They voted almost 70% Trump.

I'm not saying Manchin is smart. I'm saying hes desperate.

And a shitbag.

Wait are we calling people making $75k+ "poor" now

(I don't even think the super rapid phase out is a good idea on balance, but come on)

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

This is what fucks me up though because they have to know that some of them are going to lose their seats by doing this. They have to know doing nothing is a terrible strategy for them. Do they all just think it's going to happen to someone else?

Its a lose lose situation.

I'm not saying they are handling this the best, because they certainly aren't.

But they are in a position where they can almost literally be held hostage.

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

This is what fucks me up though because they have to know that some of them are going to lose their seats by doing this. They have to know doing nothing is a terrible strategy for them. Do they all just think it's going to happen to someone else?

well we'll get a clear answer to that when the senate takes up HR1 especially as State GOPs try to gerrymander and voter suppress them out of office

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xp1337 posted...

This is just such a stupid move by Senate Dems. The bill has 75% support nationwide and the checks are the most popular part of it. What do? Reduce eligibility?

Hopefully the House stands firm and fights for this in conference but if the handful of Senate D ~moderates~ stand firm on this they might not be able to win this fight.

Also GOP looking to pull stall tactics on this bill by apparently planning to force the clerk to read the full text of the bill instead of letting the standard operating procedure of dispensing with it via unanimous consent instead. I don't think it will meaningfully affect the timetable (but still likely to take up hours) but it's just so petty.

Not only is it stupid, but I cant imagine it saves them much money. Its still full payment to everyone making 75k or less. It was already nothing for people making 100k or more.

So you have this incredibly narrow window youre targeting in an effort to reduce the cost for the bill. There isnt enough of a population here to make a dent in the overall price of the package, so you wind up paying less people than all previous stimulus packages in order to save a trivial amount of cash. It is so stupid from an optics standpoint, and you gain literally nothing for it. The people opposed to this arent going to care youre saving a sliver of the money you were going to ask for.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Wait are we calling people making $75k+ "poor" now

(I don't even think the super rapid phase out is a good idea on balance, but come on)

For me it doesn't even go there. It's just an unbelievable own goal when you concoct a situation where more people got relief under Trump than Biden. How do you let that happen? That's why I'm clinging to the hope that public blowback comes hard and these "moderates" cave in time for the House to jettison this stupidity from the bill in conference but honestly I'm feeling more pessimistic now than I have in a while.

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Also we need to stop claiming the missing $600 is some sort of savior.

$3200 or $3800 both are vastly inadequate amounts to survive through a pandemic.

None of these checks have ever been anything but a bribe for political support.

The unemployment boost and small business assistance have been the most important parts of all the stimulus bills.

it is fine to be upset at the loss of free money, it sucks, but dont pretend it is something it isnt.

We've never had anything close to ubi seriously on the table, which is what was really needed.

Leafeon13N posted...

Also we need to stop claiming the missing $600 is some sort of savior.

$3200 or $3800 both are vastly inadequate amounts to survive through a pandemic.

None of these checks have ever been anything but a bribe for political support.

The unemployment boost and small business assistance have been the most important parts of all the stimulus bills.

it is fine to be upset at the loss of free money, it sucks, but dont pretend it is something it isnt.

We've never had anything close to ubi seriously on the table, which is what was really needed.

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Anyway so this is the kind of democrat I'm talking about.

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"The only difference between the Republican and Democratic parties is the velocities with which their knees hit the floor when corporations knock on their door. That's the only difference."

"In the US, there is basically one party - the business party. It has two factions, called Democrats and Republicans, which are somewhat different but carry out variations on the same policies. By and large, I am opposed to those policies. As is most of the population."

"The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them."

Guys, I think the democrats only thought they wanted to be in power

They thought it'd be cool to be in charge and there'd be no homework and recess all day long and nobody to stop them from having two chocolate milks at lunch

But then they got in power and people started asking them to do stuff, and that's haaaaarrrrd and laaaaaaaame

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But to elaborate.

People are desperately saying "GIVE THE PEOPLE MORE". Nobody is treating $1400 like it is anything but an "at least this is SOMETHING" kind of measure.

We know politicians are scumbags and assholes and beholden to anything BUT helping the people who vote for them.

We know that UBI is what we should be getting but our government is pathetic.

But saying "well we helped unemployment and small business, but damn shame about the other thing people care about more" is just more nonsense. It's outrageous they can't give people all of that. Stop treating it like it's anything other than fucking outrageous and give it "yeah buts" because it's complete absurdity that people shouldn't accept.

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Theres the Democrats and Republicans are the same party guy.

Nevermind that Republicans are starting at $0 stimulus and can be increasingly described as the party of white supremacy.

Our choices suck, but they are not the same.

HashtagSEP posted...

Guys, I think the democrats only thought they wanted to be in power

They thought it'd be cool to be in charge and there'd be no homework and recess all day long and nobody to stop them from having two chocolate milks at lunch

But then they got in power and people started asking them to do stuff, and that's haaaaarrrrd and laaaaaaaame

Poor senator is being HELD HOSTAGE, and can't just fucking help people already. Can you imagine how hard it is for him to not just help people so other people will like him? Gosh. I hope he wins this next popularity contest because he deserves it for how much he's making everyone else sacrifice.

Please do not feel bad for a single politician so long as you live they all suck except for a very small handful of them, and even then you shouldn't feel bad for them.

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Leafeon13N posted...

Theres the Democrats and Republicans are the same party guy.

Nevermind that Republicans are starting at $0 stimulus and can be increasingly described as the party of white supremacy.

Our choices suck, but they are not the same.

"which are somewhat different but carry out variations on the same policies"