Board 8 > FFXIV Topic Part 3 -- Moon's Haunted

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Not_an_Owl
03/08/21 3:15:22 PM
#201:


KamikazePotato posted...
The closest to 'bad characters' would be the Ascians in ARR/Heavensward, who are slightly below the standard set by Saturday morning cartoon villains. It's hilarious how much of a goober Lahabrea is in comparison to Emet-Selch.
iirc the writers actually had to retcon this, the explanation is something like Lahabrea is more than a little insane because he hops between bodies so frequently whereas Emet is remarkably lucid after all this time because he spends so much time in one body (or copies of that one body? I forget exactly).

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KamikazePotato
03/08/21 3:22:07 PM
#202:


Not_an_Owl posted...
iirc the writers actually had to retcon this, the explanation is something like Lahabrea is more than a little insane because he hops between bodies so frequently whereas Emet is remarkably lucid after all this time because he spends so much time in one body (or copies of that one body? I forget exactly).
Makes sense. I was still rolling my eyes a bit when Lahabrea was described as a 'great thinker' in Amaurot.

I'm leveling Summoner now and the 1-60 quests involve an Ascian and he is an absolute caricature of a villain. Really glad they fixed the issue of the main villain group coming across as completely one-dimensional, because that was the biggest issue with the writing so far.

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Waluigi1
03/08/21 3:27:02 PM
#203:


Hello FFXIV friends. I play this game. I just beat ARR's main story and now I'm on patch stuff between it and Heavensword. I'm mainly playing cause by best friend roped me into it and cause I've always heard the story is really good.

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Not_an_Owl
03/08/21 3:31:26 PM
#204:


Waluigi1 posted...
Hello FFXIV friends. I play this game. I just beat ARR's main story and now I'm on patch stuff between it and Heavensword. I'm mainly playing cause by best friend roped me into it and cause I've always heard the story is really good.
It is really good! Just not the part you're on now. Don't worry, it gets better as soon as you hit Heavensward.

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/08/21 3:37:37 PM
#206:




KamikazePotato posted...
People seem to have problems with Atsuhi and Yotsuyu and I'm not sure why. Atsuhi is a loathsome shitheel, which is fine. He's supposed to be an Algus/Joffrey type character and he does it well. Yotsuyu is also a loathsome fuckup but again that's fine - her story acts as a nice foil to Fordola's. Both are given second chances, and one of them is able to reinvent themselves while the other fails to move past their childhood trauma (partially because Yotsuyu's was WAY WORSE) and pays the price as a result.

Atsuhi I would argue fails at his role as a "Joffery type." He is not nearly interesting or charismatic enough to justify his role as a heel, his plan is not exciting, and the whole bit in 4.2 where he plays nice only to have an obvious heel turn ends up feeling like a waste of time, though this is a plotting issue. Worst character is possibly a stretch, but he's definitely a failure. He's literally more interesting dead than alive lol.

Yotsuyu at least has some entertainment value but I find the writing around her abysmal. I have zero problems with the writers wanting a "step on me please" dominatrix villain but her shtick wears thin pretty fast and her backstory is...well. I get the parallel they were going going with Fordola but it feels like they didn't put much thought into it. All I can really say is that rape/sexual abuse backstories are imo played out and tricky and Yotsuyu's "being sold into sex slavery made her permanently and irredeemably horny for Doman genocide" is a WILD fucking leap that's both unbelievable and craters the intended sympathetic angle at the same time.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/08/21 3:54:03 PM
#207:


This Castrum Fluminis queue time....sure is something....

Last night had to go to bed after 40 minutes waiting.

Trying to do it at lunch here, started say 12 minutes, now at 38...

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X_Dante_X
03/08/21 3:57:32 PM
#208:


thats kind of surprising to me, i'm not sure why that one would be harder to fill than other trials.
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UshiromiyaEva
03/08/21 4:00:22 PM
#209:


All the Trials in post 4.0 content have had fairly terrible queue times (Byakko, Phoenix, Snake), but this one is next level.

And now I have to wait until after work again because I won't have time to actually do it. Ugh.

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/08/21 4:00:45 PM
#210:


Probably just various combinations of Trials roulette being ok for leveling means more people under 70 are using it, not playing at peak hours, it's the end of the weekly reset period so there will be less level 80s going in for tomes...

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BK_Sheikah00
03/08/21 4:01:23 PM
#211:


You still haven't done Stormblood's raid and trial series right? Just the Alliance?

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X_Dante_X
03/08/21 4:02:36 PM
#212:


yeah if they've all had bad queue times than i believe the off peak/end of week being the cause for it being even worse
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Luis_Sera89
03/08/21 4:04:23 PM
#213:


Yeah, I didn't do the Stormblood optional trials until Shadowbringers was already out, so it wasn't current content any more, and I remember not even bothering to directly queue for them. I just waited until I rolled them in the trial roulette, so I ended up doing that story the 'slow' way.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/08/21 4:12:41 PM
#214:


BK_Sheikah00 posted...
You still haven't done Stormblood's raid and trial series right? Just the Alliance?

I did the trials with the mythical creatures, yes. I haven't done any of the 12 part 8 man series with the chocobo.

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KamikazePotato
03/08/21 4:18:51 PM
#215:


I got into Castrum yesterday as a DPS in 12 minutes. Don't know what to tell you except that that's rough, buddy

UshiromiyaEva posted...
I did the trials with the mythical creatures, yes. I haven't done any of the 12 part 8 man series with the chocobo.
You really should.

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BK_Sheikah00
03/08/21 4:26:25 PM
#216:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
I did the trials with the mythical creatures, yes. I haven't done any of the 12 part 8 man series with the chocobo.
Oh then you did see why Tataru is the best Scion

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UshiromiyaEva
03/08/21 4:40:53 PM
#217:


BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Oh then you did see why Tataru is the best Scion

Yes, but I didn't need that to know that. Tataru was already the best character in the game.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/08/21 4:42:37 PM
#218:


KamikazePotato posted...
You really should

After how much effort it took to drag myself through Alexander...I mean I WILL, just not my biggest priority.

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/08/21 4:46:29 PM
#219:


Might be a good idea to get it done before starting the Shadowbringers stuff, it'll feel pretty bad going back to it.

It's definitely more up front with the fanservice at least!

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Mac Arrowny
03/08/21 4:50:13 PM
#220:


Omega's still kinda a slog early on, IMO. Moreso than Alexander was for me.
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LordoftheMorons
03/08/21 4:56:14 PM
#221:


Omega >> Alexander imo

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UshiromiyaEva
03/08/21 5:09:36 PM
#222:


Oh, you know what I haven't done is the Eureka thing. It disappeared from my mission list as soon as I unlocked it, so I totally forgot about it.

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Mac Arrowny
03/08/21 5:11:36 PM
#223:


I never did Eureka. My impression is that it's a vast adventure that'll take dozens of hours (mostly grinding) to complete.
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The Mana Sword
03/08/21 5:12:09 PM
#224:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Oh, you know what I haven't done is the Eureka thing

bail out

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UshiromiyaEva
03/08/21 5:14:18 PM
#225:


As an Eureka Seven stan I feel like I have an obligation.

I want a Nirvash mount.

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KamikazePotato
03/08/21 5:24:27 PM
#226:


Omega is way better than Alexander. Alexander is one of the few storylines I cutscene skipped through most of because of how boring it was.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/08/21 5:29:53 PM
#227:


Oh that reminds me, I do finally have one controversial opinion I'm ready to unleash.

I don't care about Cid.

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trdl23
03/08/21 5:31:04 PM
#228:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Oh, you know what I haven't done is the Eureka thing.
@X_Dante_X

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The Mana Sword
03/08/21 5:32:28 PM
#229:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Oh that reminds me, I do finally have one controversial opinion I'm ready to unleash.

I don't care about Cid.

not really that controversial

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Mac Arrowny
03/08/21 5:33:29 PM
#230:


Cid's the best character in ARR imo.

After that he's not very interesting!
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KamikazePotato
03/08/21 5:38:46 PM
#231:


Oh wait I know how to make you play the Omega trials

It has a lot of (very early spoiler) NERO

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UshiromiyaEva
03/08/21 5:42:26 PM
#232:


The end of 4.0 stinger with Nero showing up in full Albert Wesker cosplay at a dutch angle with threatening lighting flashing in the background to announce he's joining Ironworks may be the best moment in XIV so far, tied with Alphinaud "WAAAAAAAAAH" *splash*.

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X_Dante_X
03/08/21 6:11:08 PM
#233:


eureka best content
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Waluigi1
03/08/21 6:14:11 PM
#234:


What is Eureka?

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/08/21 6:15:31 PM
#235:


Cid's primary function is a Nero enabler. Besides that he's just a friendly plot device which is fine. Occasionally they use him pretty well though!

Also where Cid goes, Biggs/Wedge/Jesse usually follow so he gets points for them

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/08/21 6:18:02 PM
#236:


Waluigi1 posted...
What is Eureka?

They tried to make Final Fantasy 11 as a series of zones within 14.

The reception of the results is mixed.

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Waluigi1
03/08/21 6:19:20 PM
#237:


I don't really know what that means lol. Like it's a condensed story of 11 or something?

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X_Dante_X
03/08/21 6:19:31 PM
#238:


eureka was side content they introduced with stormblood, and the primary purpose of it was to get the relic weapon associated with the stormblood expansion. Its structures more like old school MMOs, with penalties on death, and grinding overworld mobs.

nowadays the physical rewards are basically just a few mounts (and glowy weapons you you like that kind of thing for glamor!). I enjoy it mostly for the nostalgia, both for when it was super active during stormblood, and for older MMOs in general. It used to be basically impossible to do anything without a party, but they've nerfed it substantially so now we can solo pretty well anything once you get a high enough level in there (note levels are separate there from normal level).
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X_Dante_X
03/08/21 6:20:47 PM
#239:


and yeah, its a giant love letter to FFXI. a lot of things you get there are literally armor sets from FFXI you can use for glamor.
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GANON1025
03/08/21 6:23:10 PM
#240:


I still have no idea what Eureka actually is, and god willing I never will

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X_Dante_X
03/08/21 6:23:37 PM
#241:


is pazuzu up???
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The Mana Sword
03/08/21 6:25:02 PM
#242:


X_Dante_X posted...
is pazuzu up???

never

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trdl23
03/08/21 7:01:48 PM
#243:


The Mana Sword posted...
never
Cassie is being prepped though, come get your Pagos light

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trdl23
03/08/21 7:03:16 PM
#244:


X_Dante_X posted...
nowadays the physical rewards are basically just a few mounts (and glowy weapons you you like that kind of thing for glamor!).
Don't forget the clothing items from Pagos, the logograms, the replicas from BA, the emotes and minions from warped lockboxes... there is a TON of money to make in Eureka. I have almost 124M gil now, largely thanks to it.

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Waluigi1
03/08/21 7:28:03 PM
#245:


Ah thanks for the explanation! Sounds annoying tbh <_< lol

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GANON1025
03/08/21 7:38:37 PM
#246:


So... can you really one do like three things as a white mage in pvp?

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X_Dante_X
03/08/21 7:43:02 PM
#247:


yeah, if you put the time into eureka, its def a quick easy source of gil. you need to actually go through the whole thing before it really starts paying off though

btw, HGR made like 600 million or something completely absurd off selling obscure logograms the first few days of hydatos' release. he literally joined PW spawn parties and didn't mind the fact it could go like 200+ kills without a spawn, just raking in dem obscures
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UshiromiyaEva
03/08/21 8:12:17 PM
#248:


When should I start looking into this whole housing thing?

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tcaz2
03/08/21 8:15:37 PM
#249:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
When should I start looking into this whole housing thing?
When you have several hundred million gil
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X_Dante_X
03/08/21 8:21:38 PM
#250:


you can get a small house for way less than that, prob like 5-6 mil? you only need 3-4 mil for the plot

you want to start with a small anyway, so you can relocate onto a medium/large when one opens up
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UshiromiyaEva
03/08/21 8:22:23 PM
#251:


I have 1.75 mil. Probably bit gonna cut it huh.

Once I catch up...crafting time.

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