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No I don't think I will thanks.

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BloodMoon7 posted...

No I don't think I will thanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1FVsVE54Qw

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Ill still be able to get a gun as easily in year 2-3-4 of Biden as I will today. Nothing but GOP last gasp scare tactics.

nah dont buy gun first of all bullets right now super expensive, after like 10 minutes of sooting your hands starnt to hurt specially trigger ginger, and then no one ever mentions gas blowback on your face, worst part if you ask me, and then the noise the noise ist oo much i have to use foam plugs AND earmuffs wtf seriously why all this trouble i mean this is 9mm wtf imagain 45

cant wait to watch m y trasitional Slleepless in seattle during xmas.

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Can't afford one, plus I plan on buying a handgun and you have to jump through some hoops for those in Cali.

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Dont waste your money on guns. Get a 3D printer and make your own!

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Nope. Guns and mental illness don't mix.

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Not American so I dont have a backwards gun fetish. Too late*

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lately i want one because i walk everywhere and things are getting fucky, especially at night

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actually tho rifles are pretty awesome, barely any recoil and blowback go buy a rifle if you ask me

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spikethedevil posted...

Not American so I dont have a backwards gun fetish. Too late*

tbh you havent lived until you know the feeling of putting a long silver bullet into a well greased chamber.

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AlisLandale posted...

tbh you havent lived until you know the feeling of putting a long silver bullet into a well greased chamber.

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Sane and normal country

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Are the Americans ok

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Already did. And a good supply of ammo. Especially more oddball calibers.

I'm gonna resell when the getting good or do a nice trade for stuff I need. I can always use some more 45

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Guns are a waste of money. A pointless investment unless you hunt for a living.
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CosmicShadows posted...

Guns are a waste of money. A pointless investment unless you hunt for a living.

I disagree. Guns are a great investment that can last generations.

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At the risk of starting a pointless flame war, what even are guns about anyway. Everyone talks about them being about protection but is it really about protection? Are you protecting yourself by escalating a conflict, seems unlikely

This is gonna be one of those topics where we can exchange anecdotes which are mostly useless so I'd be interested to see studies on the effectiveness of guns as civilian protection, if there's any good research on this.

Like I dunno...invest in better locks and windows?

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this topic is especially strange when you consider that tc isnt even american

Reis posted...

this topic is especially strange when you consider that tc isnt even american

Why?

I love gun that why I play battlefield on pc
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see? tc's as american as rhubarb cobbler

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pinky0926 posted...

At the risk of starting a pointless flame war, what even are guns about anyway. Everyone talks about them being about protection but is it really about protection? Are you protecting yourself by escalating a conflict, seems unlikely

This is gonna be one of those topics where we can exchange anecdotes which are mostly useless so I'd be interested to see studies on the effectiveness of guns as civilian protection, if there's any good research on this.

Like I dunno...invest in better locks and windows?

Yep. Think about it, if you're ever in a situation where you're allowed to self defense with a gun by the time you draw your weapon you'll be dead already the other shooter is already pointing a gun at you. Same thing with a home invasion and you're woken up in your sleep
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AlisLandale posted...

tbh you havent lived until you know the feeling of putting a long silver bullet into a well greased chamber.

Shala..shaska?

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pinky0926 posted...

Like I dunno...invest in better locks and windows

Why not do all of the above?

pick4six posted...

Yep. Think about it, if you're ever in a situation where you're allowed to self defense with a gun by the time you draw your weapon you'll be dead already the other shooter is already pointing a gun at you. Same thing with a home invasion and you're woken up in your sleep

Whats the other option when you're awoken by a home invader?


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Middle hope posted...

Whats the other option when you're awoken by a home invader?

Where do you keep your firearms?

If you're a responsible owner, presumably in a safe. Do you have time to get the gun out, check its loaded, etc?

I dunno man. 99% of the time they just want your tv.

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The police in America will let you die before they protect your business or your property. You can't really depend on them at all.

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Middle hope posted...

Whats the other option when you're awoken by a home invader?

My point is that I strongly suspect there is a cultural fixation on guns that go beyond a practical need for defense, meaning many people will invest in guns before they will invest in more tried and tested methods of home defense, like better doors.

(bear in mind I'm literally pulling this all out of my ass, so I'm interested to see what the research says)

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pinky0926 posted...

Where do you keep your firearms?

If you're a responsible owner, presumably in a safe. Do you have time to get the gun out, check its loaded, etc?

I dunno man. 99% of the time they just want your tv.

Lol no. If you have a gun for defense you keep it as close to you as possible. In a night stand, or in a mattress holster.

When you are up and moving you take it with you and secured on your person.

And who knows if they only want your TV? You have no idea what their motives are. What if they want everything you have? What if they just want to break in and kill you or assault and kidnap your wife and kids?

You dont know.

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if you're a responsible gun owner, you'll make sure your kids can't find it, it doesn't have to be locked away at fort knox. and if you have no kids, in a case under the bed seems fine to me. i'm not particularly worried about my house being broken into, but it won't do to talk out of your arse about the "right" way to own a gun when you're anti gun

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TimmyTinsel posted...

Ill still be able to get a gun as easily in year 2-3-4 of Biden as I will today. Nothing but GOP last gasp scare tactics.

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Middle hope posted...

Lol no. If you have a gun for defense you keep it as close to you as possible. In a night stand, or in a mattress holster.

Isn't this exactly against the basic rules of having a gun though? Like isn't this how people and children end up in most gun related accidents?

I am not experienced with firearms so excuse if I'm being ignorant on it. But what I have read and heard suggests that you can't just keep loaded guns out somewhere anyone can reach them.

When you are up and moving you take it with you and secured on your person.

And who knows if they only want your TV? You have no idea what their motives are. What if they want everything you have? What if they just want to break in and kill you or assault and kidnap your wife and kids?

You dont know.

I don't know if a helicopter is going to crash on my house and obliterate me into pieces in 5 seconds from now, it just seems very unlikely and not something worth planning my life around. And having a loaded gun on my person at all times seems like an outrageously huge responsibility for a "just in case" scenario.

I don't think gangs of armed murdering rapists are especially interested in coming to my home like the opening plot of the Punisher, but I also suspect that if that was the case then a 9mm firearm by my nightstand might not help.

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pinky0926 posted...

I don't know if a helicopter is going to crash on my house and obliterate me into pieces in 5 seconds from now, it just seems very unlikely.

I don't think gangs of armed murdering rapists are especially interested in coming to my home like the opening plot of the Punisher, but I also suspect that if that was the case then a 9mm firearm by my nightstand might not help.

ah, my mistake, it seems you want to be silly and not even remotely argue in good faith about real life

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Middle hope posted...

Lol no. If you have a gun for defense you keep it as close to you as possible. In a night stand, or in a mattress holster.

When you are up and moving you take it with you and secured on your person.

And who knows if they only want your TV? You have no idea what their motives are. What if they want everything you have? What if they just want to break in and kill you or assault and kidnap your wife and kids?

You dont know.

This.

viewmaster_pi posted...

ah, my mistake, it seems you want to be silly and not even remotely argue in good faith about real life

Too many people want to be smart allecs over guns. A lot just don't understand.

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BlockAddition posted...

Shala..shaska?

https://youtu.be/3ew_cSgCJoc?t=130

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viewmaster_pi posted...

if you're a responsible gun owner, you'll make sure your kids can't find it, it doesn't have to be locked away at fort knox. and if you have no kids, in a case under the bed seems fine to me. i'm not particularly worried about my house being broken into, but it won't do to talk out of your arse about the "right" way to own a gun when you're anti gun

If you have kids in a house with guns then the guns 100% need to be locked up. Stop spreading dangerous, ignorant shit and then accusing other people of talking out of their asses.


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viewmaster_pi posted...

ah, my mistake, it seems you want to be silly and not even remotely argue in good faith about real life

The analogy was silly to illustrate a point. People coming into your house to rape and kill you is not an at all likely event. I would argue far less likely than an accident caused by having a loaded firearm on your person/in your home, but I haven't checked the evidence to back this.

I've had my home broken into twice. On both occasions they waited till I left and then stole all my shit. I'm just not very interesting to warrant someone trying to cap me for no reason.

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pinky0926 posted...

Isn't this exactly against the basic rules of having a gun though? Like isn't this how people and children end up in most gun related accidents?

I am not experienced with firearms so excuse if I'm being ignorant on it. But what I have read and heard suggests that you can't just keep loaded guns out somewhere anyone can reach them.

No. Because it is near you at all times and you don't leave it unattended for the kids to get it. You lock it up when the situation calls for it.

That and you drill firearm safety and defense into the kids at an early age. Tell them not to touch a gun and how to deal with a gun if they find one unattended by telling an adult. I went through that training, so did my dad, and my kid as well. Keeping it at a safe distance when you're in bed is not a big deal.

And the helicopter situation is not comparable. If you are beefing up your doors to prepare for a home invasion, you may as well get a bit more involved. If you can give yourself a better chance, why not? 99% of peoplenl will never need it, but better safe than sorry. Especially if you live in a bad area

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FursonaNonGrata posted...

If you have kids in a house with guns then the guns 100% need to be locked up. Stop spreading dangerous, ignorant shit and then accusing other people of talking out of their asses.

i didn't say hide it under a couch cushion or something. a lockbox within reach in case of home invasion will still keep anyone out who has no key. all you do is piss and moan and put words in people's mouths. why don't you throw in the towel before you have another halloween melty about getting modded

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viewmaster_pi posted...

i didn't say hide it under a couch cushion or something. a lockbox within reach in case of home invasion will still keep anyone out who has no key. all you do is piss and moan and put words in people's mouths. why don't you throw in the towel before you have another halloween melty about getting modded

First you say it doesnt have to be locked away and now youre saying a lockbox is a good idea. You have no idea what the fuck youre talking about and shouldnt own a gun. Based on what you post about here Id be worried about whatever power fantasies that you could act upon if you walked around with a firearm.


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Middle hope posted...

No. Because it is near you at all times and you don't leave it unattended for the kids to get it. You lock it up when the situation calls for it.

Hang on, what is the situation here. You're asleep, it's 3am, someone breaks into your home presumably to kill you. Where do you keep the gun? is it locked up for safety, or do you have it out somewhere you can reach it quickly?

If it's scenario 1, how do you get to it in time? If it's scenario 2, then I would say -

That and you drill firearm safety and defense into the kids at an early age. Tell them not to touch a gun and how to deal with a gun if they find one unattended by telling an adult. I went through that training, so did my dad, and my kid as well. Keeping it at a safe distance when you're in bed is not a big deal.

I am FAR more terrified of my children doing something stupid and irresponsible than I am of a murderer coming into my home. Like two days ago I nearly saw a 9 year old get hit by a car because he ran into the middle of the road. Do you think his parents never told him about road safety?

I just think it's much more likely that children will do something stupid and dangerous than it is that a stranger will come to kill me.

And the helicopter situation is not comparable. If you are beefing up your doors to prepare for a home invasion, you may as well get a bit more involved. If you can give yourself a better chance, why not? 99% of peoplenl will never need it, but better safe than sorry. Especially if you live in a bad area

As above, I think having a gun at home introduces more risks than it protects against.

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pinky0926 posted...

The analogy was silly to illustrate a point. People coming into your house to rape and kill you is not an at all likely event. I would argue far less likely than an accident caused by having a loaded firearm on your person/in your home, but I haven't checked the evidence to back this.

I've had my home broken into twice. On both occasions they waited till I left and then stole all my shit. I'm just not very interesting to warrant someone trying to cap me for no reason.

i don't think anyone's going to try and kill me for no reason either, nor do i think a helicopter will crash into my house, but these things are far less likely than a couple 2-bit crooks breaking in. If there's a way you can defend yourself or your stuff in that situation, I'd want it.

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viewmaster_pi posted...

i don't think anyone's going to try and kill me for no reason either, nor do i think a helicopter will crash into my house, but these things are far less likely than a couple 2-bit crooks breaking in. If there's a way you can defend yourself or your stuff in that situation, I'd want it.

I do not want to end someone's life for trying to steal my $400 TV. Yeah I realise we brits are kooky like that.

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FursonaNonGrata posted...

First you say it doesnt have to be locked away

as in, within a gun safe. although if you had it in your bedroom or something as opposed to the basement, you might be able to get it quickly.

didn't read the rest because we both know you just want a reason to go off on me and mark everything i say

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pinky0926 posted...

Hang on, what is the situation here. You're asleep, it's 3am, someone breaks into your home presumably to kill you. Where do you keep the gun? is it locked up for safety, or do you have it out somewhere you can reach it quickly?

If it's scenario 1, how do you get to it in time? If it's scenario 2, then I would say -

At night you keep it nearby and at the ready. A mattress holster is the best bet if using a handgun. You can also buy quick release locks if you would like. It all depends on your preference.


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Middle hope posted...

At night you keep it nearby and at the ready. A mattress holster is the best bet if using a handgun. You can also buy quick release locks if you would like. It all depends on your preference.

Yeah...none of this is my preference. You do you I guess.

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pinky0926 posted...

I do not want to end someone's life for trying to steal my $400 TV. Yeah I realise we brits are kooky like that.

i never said i wanted to do that either. you have a problem with putting words in people's mouths too. This talk about people breaking in specifically to kill someone: you said that, no one else.

I'm more worried about violence on the street, though. In a perfect world, no civilians would have tools of war like this at their disposal, but the dangers and crime of America made the rules. You either play by them or take risks for no reason but to make a point that won't matter if you're dead or cleaned out.

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Humans arent the only potential threat you may have to deal with in your home. My neighborhood frequently has black bears and coyotes. And in many states in the country theres a growing problem of feral pigs that are highly destructive invasive species.

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Son Of Spam posted...

And in many states in the country theres a growing problem of feral pigs that are highly destructive invasive species.

h-how many are we talking...?

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