Poll of the Day > Florida Cop causes OUTRAGE after THIS MASK!! Is it voter intimidation???

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Miami Cop, Daniel Ubeda is in hot water after wearing a face covering supporting Trump at a polling site!!

He was spotted at the government centre inside barriers at the polling site where he was casting his vote

Miami's Police Chief said he would be disciplined though it isn't said how.

His attire was in violation of Florida laws that prohibit displaying campaign signs within 150 feet at a polling place as well as banning political campaigning in the course of official duties

He was spotted by Democratic Chair, Steve Simeonidis who confronted him

He wrote "This is city funded voter intimidation.Ubeda should be suspended immediately"

Mayor Francis Suarez called his actions "inappropriate" and said it's a violation of departmental orders and officers are supposed to be impartial

Is this voter intimidation?

https://i.imgur.com/qSYDovF.jpg

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lol

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Completely unacceptable.

BlackScythe0 posted...

Completely unacceptable.

Ya, Trump demands a RED mask

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I don't really see how it could be construed as voter intimidation, but it is in clear violation of multiple, pretty reasonable rules and therefore should result in disciplinary action.

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I dunno if he should get suspended over this but it shouldn't be a rhing

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Was he voting or performing security at the polling place? If he was voting I'm pretty sure it's fine, if he was working, probably not.
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ultra magnus13 posted...

Was he voting or performing security at the polling place? If he was voting I'm pretty sure it's fine, if he was working, probably not.

Many states disallow specific political parties or candidates being displayed in polling places.

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Tacky.

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Clench281 posted...

Many states disallow specific political parties or candidates being displayed in polling places.

Didn't know that. Seems kind of silly.
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ultra magnus13 posted...

Didn't know that. Seems kind of silly.

No it doesn't.

even i have to concede that this is grossly inappropriate within the confines of a polling location.

Blue Lives Matter? sure, i can let that slide...but a public servant in a polling location overtly displaying support for one candidate over another is wrong by literally every rule and standard we have regarding such things.

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Funny how all this voter intimidation stuff is only coming from Trump supporters

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OrangeDawn posted...

Funny how all this voter intimidation stuff is only coming from Trump supporters

Conservatives won't turn their back on conservatism, they'll turn their back on democracy.

OrangeDawn posted...

Funny how all this voter intimidation stuff is only coming from Trump supporters

Yet Black Panthers can stand at the doorway to a polling place with weapons and it's 100% fine and acceptable to the left.

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Decoy77 posted...

Yet Black Panthers can stand at the doorway to a polling place with weapons and it's 100% fine and acceptable to the left.

It's not.

No lmao, how is that intimidation at all?

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BlackScythe0 posted...

No it doesn't.

I can see the problem in this scenario, but as a general rule, saying someone going to vote can't wear a "yay the guy I support" hat is in fact kind of silly.
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ultra magnus13 posted...

I can see the problem in this scenario, but as a general rule, saying someone going to vote can't wear a "yay the guy I support" hat is in fact kind of silly.

The officer is an official not a random person off the street waiting in line.

BlackScythe0 posted...

The officer is an official not a random person off the street waiting in line.

"Many states disallow specific political parties or candidates being displayed in polling places."

Is what I referred to as being silly.
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Full Throttle posted...
His attire was in violation of Florida laws that prohibit displaying campaign signs within 150 feet at a polling place

He wasn't carrying a sign. As for the mask, it's no different than wearing a political t-shirt to the polls.

adjl posted...

I don't really see how it could be construed as voter intimidation, but it is in clear violation of multiple, pretty reasonable rules and therefore should result in disciplinary action.

>Can't wear political attire while voting
>Reasonable

That's a stupid standard.

ultra magnus13 posted...

Was he voting or performing security at the polling place? If he was voting I'm pretty sure it's fine, if he was working, probably not.

The topic says it was while he was voting, which is why it's stupid. If he was just out on the job, maybe there'd be an argument, but it's unreasonable to ask somebody to change their clothing before they go to vote.

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... No, I don't think so, but it is inappropriate.

Decoy77 posted...

Yet Black Panthers can stand at the doorway to a polling place with weapons and it's 100% fine and acceptable to the left.

They're different situations. This is more a matter of mixing uniformed work (in a government job, no less) with politics and is probably a violation of rules. The Black Panthers are pro-2nd amendment folk, and whatever you feel about that may vary, but USA has a history of killing black and jewish people either for trying to get out the vote or trying to vote, so... yeah, whether or not you approve of it, the situations are not really comparable.

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Full Throttle posted...

Do you think this is voter intimidation?

Who knows. It could be, but it might not be. But like adjl said, he did break some rules...
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Zeus posted...

He wasn't carrying a sign.

The mask is pretty much just a campaign sign printed on fabric. The difference between it and a traditional sign is entirely academic.

Zeus posted...

>Can't wear political attire while voting
>Reasonable

That's a stupid standard.

Allow it, and polling stations become mini-rallies as campaigns throw last-minute money around to pack them full of people with campaign signs/clothing, which just isn't practical and makes voter intimidation that much easier to pull off (a more chaotic situation, people who would be inclined to intimidate feel supported by having people overtly on their side, etc.). Really, it's not like its a particularly obscure rule, and people have had the last year to wear their campaign clothes. They'll survive not wearing them for this one day for the sake of keeping polling stations more civilized.

Zeus posted...

The topic says it was while he was voting, which is why it's stupid. If he was just out on the job, maybe there'd be an argument, but it's unreasonable to ask somebody to change their clothing before they go to vote.

If you're in your work uniform, you're representing your employer, and anything you do reflects on them. I wouldn't expect him to go home and change before voting, but I do think it's reasonable for him to not be allowed to engage in any political activism while in uniform, especially where police departments are supposed to be politically impartial.

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If I can't wear clothing with candidates on them in a lab then it makes perfect sense that a police officer shouldn't be doing so in a polling location.

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adjl posted...

, but I do think it's reasonable for him to not be allowed to engage in any political activism while in uniform, especially where police departments are supposed to be politically impartial.

Then the Thin Blue Line/Blue Lives Matter morale patches should be verboten as well.

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I cannot read the cloth from the pictured angle, what does it say?

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Nichtcrawler X posted...

I cannot read the cloth from the pictured angle, what does it say?

It says "Truman 2020 No More Baloney"

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papercup posted...

It says "Truman 2020 No More Baloney"

That is funnier than I was expecting.

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WhiskeyDisk posted...

Then the Thin Blue Line/Blue Lives Matter morale patches should be verboten as well.

Potentially, depending on the exact wording of the regulations in question. The argument can be made that those aren't really political so much as they are a morale booster and/or a reminder to people to respect that it's a difficult job, but the success of that argument will vary depending on how the department's policy is worded. With any such policy, you're also going to get superiors making exceptions for certain things, and I could see that being one of them.

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its only intimidation if you allow it to imtimidate you
that dude is a wimp, hiding behind his belt of weapons

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Cobalt_Wasps posted...

its only intimidation if you allow it to imtimidate you
that dude is a wimp, hiding behind his belt of weapons

If cops don't hide behind their badges, why do they call them shields?

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Lol. That tweet is sad.

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