Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 330: ...yes

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man this argument reminds of when sephyg argued that "mulatto" being a prejorative term is "triggered SJW shit"

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/22/trump-twitter-hacked-dutch-researcher-password? (Space) CMP=edit_2221&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1603381243

Trump's twitter account password was maga2020!

Think of all the things someone could've done if they tried logging into his account.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Literally says Informal: Disparaging and Offensive

lmfao

I literally said YOU had a layup response. You are bad with reading comprehension aren't you?

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Corrik7 posted...

Illegals is a term that exists to specifically refer to illegal immigrants. Consult a dictionary if confused.

Yes, it's a derogatory, contemptuous and dehumanizing term to refer to undocumented immigrants.

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Corrik youre a drunk driving alcoholic illegal. No one should take moral or legal advice from you.

Ashethan posted...

Yes, it's a derogatory, contemptuous and dehumanizing term to refer to undocumented immigrants.

So we are clear. You agree with when you say Republicans are evil, racists, and a death cult that you are dehumanizing free thinking Americans? That you understand it is derogatory and contemptuous yes?

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Corrik7 posted...

So we are clear. You agree with when you say Republicans are evil, racists, and a death cult that you are dehumanizing free thinking Americans? That you understand it is derogatory and contemptuous yes?

Republicans choose to be evil and racist

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Trying a different tack for a bit, I, and many others, would consider orphaning someone because of a misdemeanor cruel and, as a punishment, unusual. Thus, child separation with no means of reuniting the parant with the child when they are out of the country or successfully granted assylum violates the eighth amendment, and is unconstitutional. Thus, illegal. Doubly so given how many court orders went unfulfilled.

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Hbthebattle posted...

Republicans choose to be evil and racist

And there it is.

No one will call out actually derogatory and contemptuous language. They will agree with it. When someone isn't using it as so, jump to virtue signal. But, when it happens freely in your face. It's A-okay!

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Corrik7 posted...

So we are clear. You agree with when you say Republicans are evil, racists, and a death cult that you are dehumanizing free thinking Americans? That you understand it is derogatory and contemptuous yes?

that doesnt sound dehumanizing. humans are the only thing capable of being evil and racist and joining cults, so its actually humanizing them.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Please, in your infinite wisdom, explain to me what the proper way is.

And please justify the fact that the "proper" way has become impossible.

"they just need to come here legally" is a bullshit talking point with no basis in reality because the legal method has been getting systematically dismantled.

Corrik stop glossing over posts you don't have a good answer for to discuss the semantics of your disparaging word choices.

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Corrik7 posted...

I literally said YOU had a layup response. You are bad with reading comprehension aren't you?

And the end of the post I responded to said Of course I would counter this.

Do YOU know how to read, my guy?

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

that doesnt sound dehumanizing. humans are the only thing capable of being evil and racist and joining cults, so its actually humanizing them.

Humans aren't capable of deciding if they want to cross a border illegally?

Only humans can be evil?

For the record here is the definition of contemptuous.

contemptuous
[kntempCHoos]
ADJECTIVE

1. showing contempt; scornful.
2. "she was intolerant and contemptuous of the majority of the human race"

And here is derogatory.

derogatory
[drtr]
ADJECTIVE

1. showing a critical or disrespectful attitude.
2. "she tells me I'm fat and is always making derogatory remarks"

Think about the words you people use.

Are you going to argue that these terms for a group of tens of millions of Americans do not fit these definitions? Stop being hypocrites at some point.

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Corrik7 posted...

And there it is.

No one will call out actually derogatory and contemptuous language. They will agree with it. When someone isn't using it as so, jump to virtue signal. But, when it happens freely in your face. It's A-okay!

this is the logical fallacy of the "tolerant liberal" meme. nobody's saying you should be tolerant of everything or, in this case, that phrases or terms that could be insulting to certain people should never be used.

there's a difference between saying "my grandpa is racist" and using an offensive term for an entire group of people (i.e. what you're doing). one is justified, the other is not.

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Corrik stop glossing over posts you don't have a good answer for to discuss the semantics of your disparaging word choices.

He is too busy trying to get caught up in "Gotcha's" and the absolute refusal to admit he was wrong, because he has to be right. It's really sad.

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Corrik7 posted...

And there it is.

No one will call out actually derogatory and contemptuous language. They will agree with it. When someone isn't using it as so, jump to virtue signal. But, when it happens freely in your face. It's A-okay!

The fact that you can't see the difference between calling someone illegal, including children, and calling out Republicans for their actions is pretty sad. People call Republicans evil and racist because of their actions, not the color of their skin or where they come from.

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Corrik stop glossing over posts you don't have a good answer for to discuss the semantics of your disparaging word choices.

Yes. We have an immigration system. You must enter through the legal process. If you enter illegally, you should be promptly deported with your whole family where you can argue your case from there. If you claim asylum, your family should be in a holding center together while your claim is approved or not.

Open borders is not a popular opinion in America for a reason. It is why every Democrat running for office scurries from that label whenever it is lopped upon them.

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Corrik stop glossing over posts you don't have a good answer for to discuss the semantics of your disparaging word choices.

he also ignored my "why would open borders lead to the disintegration of the united states?" question.

he might have learned this "i'll ignore every post i don't have an answer for while i'm pretending to be right about everything" tactic from muffin!

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Corrik7 posted...

Yes. We have an immigration system. You must enter through the legal process.

Of course, conservatives have kneecapped this into to being near-impossible, but sure.

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Politics Containment Topic: Corrik Stats and Discussion

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oh here's an opportunity to try again

Corrik7 posted...

Open borders is not a popular opinion in America for a reason.

what's the reason


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Mr Lasastryke posted...

this is the logical fallacy of the "tolerant liberal" meme. nobody's saying you should be tolerant of everything or, in this case, that phrases or terms that could be insulting to certain people should never be used.

there's a difference between saying "my grandpa is racist" and using an offensive term for an entire group of people (i.e. what you're doing). one is justified, the other is not.

Your grandpa is racist isn't lumping a group of people together you don't even know to judge them.

These assertions are literally judging tens of millions of people you do not know. Hell, I have no doubt some of those people you lump together are very much possibly better people than everyone in these topics, (no offense jakyl, soup, and Chris).

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KamikazePotato posted...

Politics Containment Topic: Corrik Stats and Discussion

Corrik Containment Topic

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Hbthebattle posted...

Of course, conservatives have kneecapped this into to being near-impossible, but sure.

Well, guess what. Democrats are about to have the Senate, house, and white house. What do you think they will do? Democrats keep voting in the Clinton's and Obama's and Biden's as their candidate of choice. All are strongly against illegal immigration as well.

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Corrik7 posted...

No one will call out actually derogatory and contemptuous language.

There we have it, folks. Calling out racism is 'derogatory', but saying someone is an 'illegal' is not. Conservativsm in a nutshell.

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Corrik7 posted...

Your grandpa is racist isn't lumping a group of people together you don't even know to judge them.

oh, saying "all republicans are racist" is wrong, sure. doesn't mean you can never use the word "racist," though.


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Corrik7 posted...

Your grandpa is racist isn't lumping a group of people together you don't even know to judge them.

These assertions are literally judging tens of millions of people you do not know. Hell, I have no doubt some of those people you lump together are very much possibly better people than everyone in these topics, (no offense jakyl, soup, and Chris).

Note that nobody said that ALL republicans are racist or evil. But all of them support and vote for people who put racist and evil policies in place.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

oh here's an opportunity to try again

what's the reason

Because they don't agree with it? Lol.

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Corrik7 posted...

Because they don't agree with it? Lol.

Why don't they agree with it?

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

oh, saying "all republicans are racist" is wrong, sure. doesn't mean you can never use the word "racist," though.

I didn't say that. I said people who say "Republicans are racist". "Republicans are evil".

Like, some of you act like the moment you put down Republican on your voter card you go into super saiyan evil mode or some shit. It's pretty dumb. All the while criticizing contemptuous and derogatory language. Lol.

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Hbthebattle posted...

Why don't they agree with it?

Because they feel it is wrong?

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Corrik7 posted...

Because they feel it is wrong?

Why do they feel it is wrong?

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Hbthebattle posted...

Why do they feel it is wrong?

Because they think it is the improper system for immigration into America?

???

Why do you like the color you like?

Because you like it?

Why not a different color?

Because you like your preferred color better?

Lmfao.

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Corrik7 posted...

You must enter through the legal process.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Please, in your infinite wisdom, explain to me what the proper way is.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

And please justify the fact that the "proper" way has become impossible.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

"they just need to come here legally" is a bullshit talking point with no basis in reality because the legal method has been getting systematically dismantled.

And you so graciously concede that people should be allowed to claim asylum, but do you have the slightest clue as to how long it would take for an asylum request to be approved?

How long does the asylum process take? The length of the asylum process varies, but it typically takes between 6 months and several years. The length of asylum process may vary depending on whether the asylum seeker filed affirmatively or defensively and on the particular facts of his or her asylum claim.

So you think it's better for the taxpayers to pay to support an asylum seeking family for several years rather than let them in while their case is being processed, during which time they can find employment and start paying taxes?

That's a real swing and a miss.

edit: Oh and of course it's no big deal if they lose the children of the asylum seeking family. In your opinion it's their fault for trying to come here.

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Also, I DO have contempt for the Republican party. They're the party that wants to take away healthcare from people. They're the party that are okay with police brutality. They're a party that's become the cult of Donald Trump. They are actively damaging this country, and are completely worthy of contempt.

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Corrik7 posted...

Because they think it is the improper system for immigration into America?

If that's true, why do many of these people also support politicians who kneecap legal immigration, and make legal immigration as hard as possible?


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Are you guys having fun wasting your time with this?

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

And you so graciously concede that people should be allowed to claim asylum, but do you have the slightest clue as to how long it would take for an asylum request to be approved?

So you think it's better for the taxpayers to pay to support an asylum seeking family for several years rather than let them in while their case is being processed, during which time they can find employment and start paying taxes?

That's a real swing and a miss.

Do you know why it takes so long? Because judges are so bogged down on cases. Which should tell you we have a real problem with our borders that we need more attention on. Trump did a good thing with getting more judges in the system. We need a lot more until we can catch up on cases.

Someone who is looking for asylum should understand that when coming in and also consider that having to go through the legal process is understandable and better than being where they were if their asylum request is actually legit. Though, I think we know that many asylum claimers are going through multiple countries to get here which casts doubt to their asylum claim a lot of the times.

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Are you guys having fun wasting your time with this?

I'm trying to resist the urge not to name the next PCT "Corrik Containment Topic"

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Hbthebattle posted...

If that's true, why do many of these people also support politicians who kneecap legal immigration, and make legal immigration as hard as possible?

Why do you vote for Democrats that don't represent your values? How many of you don't like Biden's policies yet will vote for him in this election? Why am I voting for Biden despite Trump's policies aligning more with mine?

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Only humans can be evil?

as far as things that definitely exist in our world go, yeah. Theoretically if you believe in demons or something those could also be evil.

Humans aren't capable of deciding if they want to cross a border illegally?

they are capable of making that decision, and that act would be illegal, but that does not make the person illegal. A human being doesnt have legality.
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Sorozone posted...

He is too busy trying to get caught up in "Gotcha's" and the absolute refusal to admit he was wrong, because he has to be right. It's really sad.

More like being dogpiled by 10+ people in a liberal bubble takes a lot more effort to respond to everyone instead of just having one person to focus on responding to. If you all want to just compare notes and make one joint rebuttal, I can hit all of your points at once and not miss anything. Save a lot of topic space also.

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

as far as things that definitely exist in our world go, yeah. Theoretically if you believe in demons or something those could also be evil.

they are capable of making that decision, and that act would be illegal, but that does not make the person illegal. A human being doesnt have legality.

An illegal immigrant is a status. Illegals are people with illegal status for being in the country. They don't become illegal people for life. Guess what. If they go back out of the country they aren't illegal again because they no longer have that status. If they go through the process and legally immigrate to the country, they don't have that status either. It isn't a badge or mark upon their person. It is an immigration status.

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Corrik7 posted...

More like being dogpiled by 10+ people in a liberal bubble takes a lot more effort to respond to everyone instead of just having one person to focus on responding to. If you all want to just compare notes and make one joint rebuttal, I can hit all of your points at once and not miss anything. Save a lot of topic space also.

Problem is...you aren't making any points. Half of your posts here are about word definitions because you are so caught up in semantics because you want to be right, not that you are right. You lack any serious critical thinking skills so your points to make any sense.

Admit you are wrong and just move on.

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Sorozone posted...

Problem is...you aren't making any points. Half of your posts here are about word definitions because you are so caught up in semantics because you want to be right, not that you are right. You lack any serious critical thinking skills so your points to make any sense.

Admit you are wrong and just move on.

You are in a bubble. Go somewhere else that isn't one and debate it. Hint: Not everyone will be on your side then.

I ain't making "points" because you all don't agree with them here. Nothing to do with making points. None of you are going to change your mind despite any "points" I make. It isn't because I am not making any. It is because you disagree with it. Nothing more.

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Difference is I can understand your view points. I just disagree with them. You can't even acknowledge others. That's why. CUE LASA. Being able to be in the middle and see both sides and choose the one you think is the best is the best place to be politically.

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Corrik7 posted...

Being able to be in the middle and see both sides and choose the one you think is the best is the best place to be politically.

lol

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