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red sox 777 10/14/20 6:36:22 PM #402:	Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances If she missed the last one, it's probably because there is no caselaw on it. Probably, no US government has ever tried to stop people from petitioning the government, so it's just never came up in 200+ years. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:945858625] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote><quote>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances</quote> If she missed the last one, it's probably because there is no caselaw on it. Probably, no US government has ever tried to stop people from petitioning the government, so it's just never came up in 200+ years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 10/14/20 6:41:30 PM #403:	Xeybozn posted... Why should she know that? The First Amendment doesn't guarantee the right to protest. (Granted, assembly + speech heavily implies such a right should exist, but without anything explicit it's easy enough to argue it doesn't.) ...It does, though? --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:945858818] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>Xeybozn posted... </cite> <quote>Why should she know that? The First Amendment doesn't guarantee the right to protest. (Granted, assembly + speech heavily implies such a right should exist, but without anything explicit it's easy enough to argue it doesn't.)</quote> ...It does, though? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 10/14/20 6:41:37 PM #404:	Xeybozn posted... Why should she know that? The First Amendment doesn't guarantee the right to protest. (Granted, assembly + speech heavily implies such a right should exist, but without anything explicit it's easy enough to argue it doesn't.) Hmm I guess in my mind I've always thought of the right to petition the government as the right to protest the government, but I guess they're actually different and protest should just be covered under assembly+speech Guess I'm dumb...! --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:945858821] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>Xeybozn posted... </cite> <quote>Why should she know that? The First Amendment doesn't guarantee the right to protest. (Granted, assembly + speech heavily implies such a right should exist, but without anything explicit it's easy enough to argue it doesn't.)</quote>Hmm I guess in my mind I've always thought of the right to petition the government as the right to protest the government, but I guess they're actually different and protest should just be covered under assembly+speech Guess I'm dumb...! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 10/14/20 6:43:35 PM #405:	There's no protest right other than what comes from assembly, speech, and petition. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:945858890] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>There's no protest right other than what comes from assembly, speech, and petition. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 10/14/20 6:44:50 PM #406:	LordoftheMorons posted... Hmm I guess in my mind I've always thought of the right to petition the government as the right to protest the government, but I guess they're actually different and protest should just be covered under assembly+speech Guess I'm dumb...! Nah, you're right. Petition the government for redress covers protest. It's why that portion of it is used interchangeably with "protest." EDIT: Basically: "all public articulation of issues, complaints and interests designed to spur government action qualifies under the petition clause, even if the activities partake of other First Amendment freedoms." --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:945858934] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite> <quote>Hmm I guess in my mind I've always thought of the right to petition the government as the right to protest the government, but I guess they're actually different and protest should just be covered under assembly+speech Guess I'm dumb...!</quote> Nah, you're right. Petition the government for redress covers protest. It's why that portion of it is used interchangeably with "protest." EDIT: Basically: "all public articulation of issues, complaints and interests designed to spur government action qualifies under the petition clause, even if the activities partake of other First Amendment freedoms." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 10/14/20 6:49:46 PM #407:	Jakyl25 posted... Imagine Hunter Biden, who supposedly is rich because of shady government favors, takes his laptop to get fixed at some shady New York shop You mean Hunter Biden, who lives in California and is rich because of shady government favors, takes his laptops to get fixed at some shady shop in Delaware by a shady looking Trump supporter who cannot identify him as the person who brought in the laptop and apparently is in contact with Rudy Giuliani and can't keep his story straight. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:945859131] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Imagine Hunter Biden, who supposedly is rich because of shady government favors, takes his laptop to get fixed at some shady New York shop</quote> You mean Hunter Biden, who lives in California and is rich because of shady government favors, takes his laptops to get fixed at some shady shop in Delaware by a shady looking Trump supporter who cannot identify him as the person who brought in the laptop and apparently is in contact with Rudy Giuliani and can't keep his story straight. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 10/14/20 6:53:33 PM #408:	Dancedreamer posted... takes his laptops to get fixed at some shady shop in Delaware by a shady looking Trump supporter who cannot identify him as the person who brought in the laptop excuse me, he said he had a medical condition preventing him from seeing who brought it in --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:945859255] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>Dancedreamer posted... </cite> <quote>takes his laptops to get fixed at some shady shop in Delaware by a shady looking Trump supporter who cannot identify him as the person who brought in the laptop</quote>excuse me, he said he had a medical condition preventing him from seeing who brought it in </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 10/14/20 7:01:16 PM #409:	LordoftheMorons posted... Oh I mean obviously she should be very familiar with all of them, but I don't think failing to list them on command in a high pressure situation actually shows that she doesn't know that the right to protest is guaranteed by the first amendment I mean it's like an 8th grade civics question. Something someone who wishes to be a Supreme Court Justices should know. More concerning though is she thinks only "Virtuous" citizens should be allowed to vote. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:945859518] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite> <quote>Oh I mean obviously she should be very familiar with all of them, but I don't think failing to list them on command in a high pressure situation actually shows that she doesn't know that the right to protest is guaranteed by the first amendment</quote> I mean it's like an 8th grade civics question. Something someone who wishes to be a Supreme Court Justices should know. More concerning though is she thinks only "Virtuous" citizens should be allowed to vote. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 10/14/20 7:01:48 PM #410:	Dancedreamer posted... I mean it's like an 8th grade civics question. Something someone who wishes to be a Supreme Court Justices should know. More concerning though is she thinks only "Virtuous" citizens should be allowed to vote. Well, the average 8th grader probably does not know that voting is not a right. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:945859534] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>Dancedreamer posted... </cite> <quote>I mean it's like an 8th grade civics question. Something someone who wishes to be a Supreme Court Justices should know. More concerning though is she thinks only "Virtuous" citizens should be allowed to vote.</quote> Well, the average 8th grader probably does not know that voting is not a right. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 10/14/20 7:06:42 PM #411:	Dancedreamer posted... More concerning though is she thinks only "Virtuous" citizens should be allowed to vote. mounting evidence that kojima is a time traveller who tried to warn us by "predicting" the future with metal gear "There is no need to prove you are 'virtuous' here. This isn't America." --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:945859717] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>Dancedreamer posted... </cite> <quote> More concerning though is she thinks only "Virtuous" citizens should be allowed to vote.</quote>mounting evidence that kojima is a time traveller who tried to warn us by "predicting" the future with metal gear "There is no need to prove you are 'virtuous' here. This isn't America." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 10/14/20 7:11:19 PM #412:	Last chance to fill out the census! https://twitter.com/davidgura/status/1316515440529637383 Specifically it will end 5:59am ET Friday morning. --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:945859869] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>Last chance to fill out the census! https://twitter.com/davidgura/status/1316515440529637383 Specifically it will end 5:59am ET Friday morning. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 10/14/20 7:14:50 PM #413:	LordoftheMorons posted... Last chance to fill out the census! https://twitter.com/davidgura/status/1316515440529637383 Specifically it will end 5:59am ET Friday morning. So if someone submits a response at 5:59:14, should it be counted? --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:945859989] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite> <quote>Last chance to fill out the census! https://twitter.com/davidgura/status/1316515440529637383 Specifically it will end 5:59am ET Friday morning.</quote> So if someone submits a response at 5:59:14, should it be counted? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/14/20 7:18:43 PM #414:	Dancedreamer posted... You mean Hunter Biden, who lives in California and is rich because of shady government favors, takes his laptops to get fixed at some shady shop in Delaware by a shady looking Trump supporter who cannot identify him as the person who brought in the laptop and apparently is in contact with Rudy Giuliani and can't keep his story straight. So clearly what really happened is: Computer repair guy becomes brainwashed by InfoWars level conspiracy theories Comes to believe he has Hunter Bidens laptop for whatever spurious reason Makes some calls to prominent conservatives with the scoop out of a sense of patriotic duty Rudy bites HARD --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:945860119] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>Dancedreamer posted...</cite> <quote> You mean Hunter Biden, who lives in California and is rich because of shady government favors, takes his laptops to get fixed at some shady shop in Delaware by a shady looking Trump supporter who cannot identify him as the person who brought in the laptop and apparently is in contact with Rudy Giuliani and can't keep his story straight. </quote> So clearly what really happened is: Computer repair guy becomes brainwashed by InfoWars level conspiracy theories Comes to believe he has Hunter Bidens laptop for whatever spurious reason Makes some calls to prominent conservatives with the scoop out of a sense of patriotic duty Rudy bites HARD</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 10/14/20 7:22:04 PM #415:	Dancedreamer posted... More concerning though is she thinks only "Virtuous" citizens should be allowed to vote. This is the kind of shit I actually care about, not this nonsense about whether or not she knows the first amendment by heart. Source? <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:945860245] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>Dancedreamer posted... </cite> <quote> More concerning though is she thinks only "Virtuous" citizens should be allowed to vote.</quote>This is the kind of shit I actually care about, not this nonsense about whether or not she knows the first amendment by heart. Source? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 10/14/20 7:23:09 PM #416:	red sox 777 posted... So if someone submits a response at 5:59:14, should it be counted? I imagine it actually cuts off exactly at 6:00 (I got the 5:59 cutoff from an article), but if the census bureau also used the 5:59 language then yes, that would be what 5:59 meant --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:945860275] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>red sox 777 posted... </cite> <quote>So if someone submits a response at 5:59:14, should it be counted?</quote>I imagine it actually cuts off exactly at 6:00 (I got the 5:59 cutoff from an article), but if the census bureau also used the 5:59 language then yes, that would be what 5:59 meant </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 10/14/20 7:35:52 PM #417:	Paratroopa1 posted... This is the kind of shit I actually care about, not this nonsense about whether or not she knows the first amendment by heart. Source? I assume it is in reference to the opinion noted in this article: https://apnews.com/article/race-and-ethnicity-donald-trump-confirmation-hearings-discrimination-amy-coney-barrett-4380ef16b3da79836151bcaaa7eda224 The article itself examines her opinions written during her time as a judge on a range of topics (it was the source included with the link I posted this morning about her opinions on hostile workplaces). You want the second header for Voting Rights. This was a case from 2019. The AP reports... In the same opinion on gun rights, Barrett dipped into constitutional history to note that states did more to protect the rights of people to own guns than their right to vote. In some states, people who were convicted of crimes lost the right to vote, but not the right to legally have a gun, she wrote. "And as a right that was exercised for the benefit of the community (like voting and jury service), rather than for the benefit of the individual (like free speech or free exercise), it belonged only to virtuous citizens," Barrett wrote. The right to keep and bear arms conveyed by the Second Amendment, by contrast, protects "an individual's right to protect himself -- not in his right to serve in a well-regulated militia," Barrett wrote, citing Justice Antonin Scalia's 2008 opinion for the court in a major gun rights case. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:945860756] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>Paratroopa1 posted... </cite> <quote>This is the kind of shit I actually care about, not this nonsense about whether or not she knows the first amendment by heart. Source?</quote>I assume it is in reference to the opinion noted in this article: https://apnews.com/article/race-and-ethnicity-donald-trump-confirmation-hearings-discrimination-amy-coney-barrett-4380ef16b3da79836151bcaaa7eda224 The article itself examines her opinions written during her time as a judge on a range of topics (it was the source included with the link I posted this morning about her opinions on hostile workplaces). You want the second header for Voting Rights. This was a case from 2019. The AP reports... <quote>In the same opinion on gun rights, Barrett dipped into constitutional history to note that states did more to protect the rights of people to own guns than their right to vote. In some states, people who were convicted of crimes lost the right to vote, but not the right to legally have a gun, she wrote. "And as a right that was exercised for the benefit of the community (like voting and jury service), rather than for the benefit of the individual (like free speech or free exercise), it belonged only to virtuous citizens," Barrett wrote. The right to keep and bear arms conveyed by the Second Amendment, by contrast, protects "an individual's right to protect himself -- not in his right to serve in a well-regulated militia," Barrett wrote, citing Justice Antonin Scalia's 2008 opinion for the court in a major gun rights case.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 10/14/20 7:38:38 PM #418:	Jakyl25 posted... So clearly what really happened is: Computer repair guy becomes brainwashed by InfoWars level conspiracy theories Comes to believe he has Hunter Bidens laptop for whatever spurious reason Makes some calls to prominent conservatives with the scoop out of a sense of patriotic duty Rudy bites HARD That's pretty generous to assume these emails weren't created by Rudy and he used this computer repair guy to create a fake 'October Surprise' Paratroopa1 posted... This is the kind of shit I actually care about, not this nonsense about whether or not she knows the first amendment by heart. Source? https://twitter.com/KristenClarkeJD/status/1316039161938313217 --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:945860850] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>So clearly what really happened is: Computer repair guy becomes brainwashed by InfoWars level conspiracy theories Comes to believe he has Hunter Bidens laptop for whatever spurious reason Makes some calls to prominent conservatives with the scoop out of a sense of patriotic duty Rudy bites HARD</quote> That's pretty generous to assume these emails weren't created by Rudy and he used this computer repair guy to create a fake 'October Surprise' Paratroopa1 posted... </cite> <quote>This is the kind of shit I actually care about, not this nonsense about whether or not she knows the first amendment by heart. Source?</quote> https://twitter.com/KristenClarkeJD/status/1316039161938313217 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 10/14/20 8:44:07 PM #419:	https://twitter.com/sternbergh/status/1316531864048480256 cool --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:945863242] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/sternbergh/status/1316531864048480256 cool </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 10/14/20 9:12:43 PM #420:	Twitter and Facebook have announced they will be limiting the spread of the article via their algorithms, stating it falls under their current stance in regards to spreading false information. --- ACAB <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:945864315] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>Twitter and Facebook have announced they will be limiting the spread of the article via their algorithms, stating it falls under their current stance in regards to spreading false information. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 10/14/20 9:13:27 PM #421:	Barron Trump had Covid, too. So when people say "kids are immune" tell them they're idiots. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:945864346] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>Barron Trump had Covid, too. So when people say "kids are immune" tell them they're idiots. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 10/14/20 9:44:55 PM #422:	https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/14/politics/pennsylvania-trump-2020-election/index.html Lol where I live --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Spider-Man (PS4), Quantum Break (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:945865476] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/14/politics/pennsylvania-trump-2020-election/index.html Lol where I live </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 10/15/20 12:35:29 AM #423:	So it's looking like one plausible source of the "Hunter emails" is that they might be clumsily-laundered Russian-hacked material: https://twitter.com/nicoleperlroth/status/1316585131818115073 ...which, as the story notes, also would present the possibility of fake emails being mixed in with real, hacked emails (which the Russians apparently did in another hacked email dump in the 2017 French elections). --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:945870486] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>So it's looking like one plausible source of the "Hunter emails" is that they might be clumsily-laundered Russian-hacked material: https://twitter.com/nicoleperlroth/status/1316585131818115073 ...which, as the story notes, also would present the possibility of fake emails being mixed in with real, hacked emails (which the Russians apparently did in another hacked email dump in the 2017 French elections). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 10/15/20 12:37:39 AM #424:	LordoftheMorons posted... So it's looking like one plausible source of the "Hunter emails" is that they might be clumsily-laundered Russian-hacked material: https://twitter.com/nicoleperlroth/status/1316585131818115073 ...which, as the story notes, also would present the possibility of fake emails being mixed in with real, hacked emails (which the Russians apparently did in another hacked email dump in the 2017 French elections). So you're saying the emails are real? --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:945870533] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite> <quote>So it's looking like one plausible source of the "Hunter emails" is that they might be clumsily-laundered Russian-hacked material: https://twitter.com/nicoleperlroth/status/1316585131818115073 ...which, as the story notes, also would present the possibility of fake emails being mixed in with real, hacked emails (which the Russians apparently did in another hacked email dump in the 2017 French elections).</quote> So you're saying the emails are real? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 10/15/20 12:43:54 AM #425:	red sox 777 posted... So you're saying the emails are real? They could be (or a subset of them could be). Very hard to be confident of that when they were provided by the very guy who's spent the entire year trying to manufacture this very controversy, though! Actually, probably the most convincing evidence to me that they could be real (despite the absolutely ridiculous story of how the author supposedly ended up getting them) is that they don't actually show the corruption people like Rudy are pushing (and you'd think if you were manufacturing evidence you'd produce something a bit more damning). --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:945870661] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>red sox 777 posted... </cite> <quote>So you're saying the emails are real?</quote>They could be (or a subset of them could be). Very hard to be confident of that when they were provided by the very guy who's spent the entire year trying to manufacture this very controversy, though! Actually, probably the most convincing evidence to me that they could be real (despite the absolutely ridiculous story of how the author supposedly ended up getting them) is that they don't actually show the corruption people like Rudy are pushing (and you'd think if you were manufacturing evidence you'd produce something a bit more damning). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 10/15/20 1:03:02 AM #426:	LordoftheMorons posted... They could be (or a subset of them could be). Very hard to be confident of that when they were provided by the very guy who's spent the entire year trying to manufacture this very controversy, though! Actually, probably the most convincing evidence to me that they could be real (despite the absolutely ridiculous story of how the author supposedly ended up getting them) is that they don't actually show the corruption people like Rudy are pushing (and you'd think if you were manufacturing evidence you'd produce something a bit more damning). If Ivanka wrote or received the exact same emails, you'd say they conclusively proved corruption. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:945871040] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite> <quote>They could be (or a subset of them could be). Very hard to be confident of that when they were provided by the very guy who's spent the entire year trying to manufacture this very controversy, though! Actually, probably the most convincing evidence to me that they could be real (despite the absolutely ridiculous story of how the author supposedly ended up getting them) is that they don't actually show the corruption people like Rudy are pushing (and you'd think if you were manufacturing evidence you'd produce something a bit more damning).</quote> If Ivanka wrote or received the exact same emails, you'd say they conclusively proved corruption. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red13n 10/15/20 1:33:43 AM #427:	So if I'm getting this story right, Rudy Giuliani, affiliated with but not really a member the Trump campaign, is colluding with Russia to obtain and release Hillary's "emails" which Russia maybe definitely clearly didn't completely fabricate/tamper with, all under the guise of a shady computer repair shop Hunter Biden totally would use. --- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. <cite>red13n posted [p:945871656] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>So if I'm getting this story right, Rudy Giuliani, affiliated with but not really a member the Trump campaign, is colluding with Russia to obtain and release Hillary's "emails" which Russia maybe definitely clearly didn't completely fabricate/tamper with, all under the guise of a shady computer repair shop Hunter Biden totally would use. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 10/15/20 1:38:57 AM #428:	red13n posted... So if I'm getting this story right, Rudy Giuliani, affiliated with but not really a member the Trump campaign, is colluding with Russia to obtain and release Hillary's "emails" which Russia maybe definitely clearly didn't completely fabricate/tamper with, all under the guise of a shady computer repair shop Hunter Biden totally would use. There hasn't been an established link from these emails to Russia (but the Russians did hack Burisma, so it's plausible). What we do know is that the chain of custody goes straight through Rudy and the computer repair story, while not impossible, is pretty ridiculous, so there's significant doubt as to their authenticity. --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:945871762] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>red13n posted... </cite> <quote>So if I'm getting this story right, Rudy Giuliani, affiliated with but not really a member the Trump campaign, is colluding with Russia to obtain and release Hillary's "emails" which Russia maybe definitely clearly didn't completely fabricate/tamper with, all under the guise of a shady computer repair shop Hunter Biden totally would use.</quote>There hasn't been an established link from these emails to Russia (but the Russians did hack Burisma, so it's plausible). What we do know is that the chain of custody goes straight through Rudy and the computer repair story, while not impossible, is pretty ridiculous, so there's significant doubt as to their authenticity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 10/15/20 1:44:41 AM #429:	https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-who-reportedly-gave-hunters-laptop-to-rudy-speaks-out-in-bizarre-interview --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:945871871] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-who-reportedly-gave-hunters-laptop-to-rudy-speaks-out-in-bizarre-interview </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 10/15/20 1:58:29 AM #430:	lol, what a sham. Finding it real difficult to blame social media platforms for burying the story. --- ACAB <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:945872110] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>lol, what a sham. Finding it real difficult to blame social media platforms for burying the story. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red13n 10/15/20 2:00:30 AM #431:	UshiromiyaEva posted... Finding it real difficult to blame social media platforms for burying the story. Trump is going to lose and the age of people forgetting how much they looked the other way in 2016 will end. --- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. <cite>red13n posted [p:945872142] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>UshiromiyaEva posted... </cite> <quote> Finding it real difficult to blame social media platforms for burying the story.</quote>Trump is going to lose and the age of people forgetting how much they looked the other way in 2016 will end. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/15/20 2:02:57 AM #432:	https://www.thedailybeast.com/rudy-giuliani-posts-footage-of-himself-mocking-asians-to-youtube Rudy is just the gift that keeps on giving --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:945872189] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>https://www.thedailybeast.com/rudy-giuliani-posts-footage-of-himself-mocking-asians-to-youtube Rudy is just the gift that keeps on giving</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 10/15/20 3:04:18 AM #433:	https://twitter.com/WilliamTurton/status/1316553496192258048 --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:945873203] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/WilliamTurton/status/1316553496192258048 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 10/15/20 3:54:42 AM #434:	Just watched a story on TV where a mixed racial couple (black wife, white husband) got a house appraisal and it came in way less than they expected ($330,000). They decided to remove all the pictures of her and their son, and only put up pictures of the husband and his family. The next appraiser came in at $465,000. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:945873849] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>Just watched a story on TV where a mixed racial couple (black wife, white husband) got a house appraisal and it came in way less than they expected ($330,000). They decided to remove all the pictures of her and their son, and only put up pictures of the husband and his family. The next appraiser came in at $465,000. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 10/15/20 4:05:32 AM #435:	red13n posted... Trump is going to lose and the age of people forgetting how much they looked the other way in 2016 will end. Lmfao --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Spider-Man (PS4), Quantum Break (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:945873982] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>red13n posted... </cite> <quote>Trump is going to lose and the age of people forgetting how much they looked the other way in 2016 will end.</quote>Lmfao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 10/15/20 4:26:14 AM #436:	What's all this about Hunter Biden? Either way not likely to do the damage that Hillary's e-mail controversies did since HB is not nearly as well-known. --- Anyone who thinks Rey is a Mary Sue is effectively a misogynist. <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:945874196] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>What's all this about Hunter Biden? Either way not likely to do the damage that Hillary's e-mail controversies did since HB is not nearly as well-known. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 10/15/20 4:45:56 AM #437:	LinkMarioSamus posted... What's all this about Hunter Biden? Either way not likely to do the damage that Hillary's e-mail controversies did since HB is not nearly as well-known. People have already decided who they are voting for. The only way Biden could possibly lose the election is if he drops a racial slur bomb on live tv, but even then it would likely be handwaved away. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Spider-Man (PS4), Quantum Break (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:945874417] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>LinkMarioSamus posted... </cite> <quote>What's all this about Hunter Biden? Either way not likely to do the damage that Hillary's e-mail controversies did since HB is not nearly as well-known.</quote>People have already decided who they are voting for. The only way Biden could possibly lose the election is if he drops a racial slur bomb on live tv, but even then it would likely be handwaved away. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red13n 10/15/20 4:46:25 AM #438:	Corrik7 posted... People have already decided who they are voting for. The only way Biden could possibly lose the election is if he drops a racial slur bomb on live tv, but even then it would likely be handwaved away. I think he'd be fine at this point. --- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. <cite>red13n posted [p:945874424] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted... </cite> <quote>People have already decided who they are voting for. The only way Biden could possibly lose the election is if he drops a racial slur bomb on live tv, but even then it would likely be handwaved away.</quote> I think he'd be fine at this point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Strikes 10/15/20 5:18:19 AM #439:	I wouldn't really agree with those last two because that's what they said last time. However, this story is clearly fabricated in an attempt to win the election on false pretenses. This is not the same as the FBI investigating a candidate. If anything you would hope the fact that the Republicans are doing something so obviously shady and false would actually hurt them. It's a major test for democracy in America. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:945874743] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't really agree with those last two because that's what they said last time. However, this story is clearly fabricated in an attempt to win the election on false pretenses. This is not the same as the FBI investigating a candidate. If anything you would hope the fact that the Republicans are doing something so obviously shady and false would actually hurt them. It's a major test for democracy in America. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seanchan 10/15/20 7:19:12 AM #440:	TheRock1525 posted... Just watched a story on TV where a mixed racial couple (black wife, white husband) got a house appraisal and it came in way less than they expected ($330,000). They decided to remove all the pictures of her and their son, and only put up pictures of the husband and his family. The next appraiser came in at $465,000. Racism and inequality is alive and well in America, despite some of the hand waving posts from certain notorious posters earlier on in this topic. First hand, my parents were moving and were looking at homes in an area with a lot of new and newer construction. I'd call it yuppy if it wasn't filled with a lot of retirees. Anyway, my dad related how they liked one home, and the community had good amenities, but they rejected it because a black family lived next door and "you know what that means". I can't remember the exact words but I think you get the disgusting sentiment. Also had a conversation about BLM with some other family members who didn't like it because "they (i.e. BLM) are killing people". Then had my sister going, half-heartedly "well...all lives matter...". Fucking dense motherfuckers who don't get the point. I don't even need to tell you that they all support Trump. --- "That was unnecessarily dramatic". - NY Mets motto (courtesy of InnerTubeHero) Congratulations to azuarc, the guru of gurus and winner of GotD 2020! <cite>Seanchan posted [p:945876228] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>TheRock1525 posted... </cite> <quote>Just watched a story on TV where a mixed racial couple (black wife, white husband) got a house appraisal and it came in way less than they expected ($330,000). They decided to remove all the pictures of her and their son, and only put up pictures of the husband and his family. The next appraiser came in at $465,000.</quote> Racism and inequality is alive and well in America, despite some of the hand waving posts from certain notorious posters earlier on in this topic. First hand, my parents were moving and were looking at homes in an area with a lot of new and newer construction. I'd call it yuppy if it wasn't filled with a lot of retirees. Anyway, my dad related how they liked one home, and the community had good amenities, but they rejected it because a black family lived next door and "you know what that means". I can't remember the exact words but I think you get the disgusting sentiment. Also had a conversation about BLM with some other family members who didn't like it because "they (i.e. BLM) are killing people". Then had my sister going, half-heartedly "well...all lives matter...". Fucking dense motherfuckers who don't get the point. I don't even need to tell you that they all support Trump. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 10/15/20 8:47:14 AM #441:	Just got back in from voting. A few observations: Got an "I Voted" stylus in addition to the sticker because they were giving out cheap paper ones to let people not have to touch the touchscreens on the voting machines First tried to go around 10 am yesterday (Early voting opened Tuesday in Texas). The line was easily hundreds of people long. Looked like most, if not all, of the line that I could see was both properly masked and social distanced Got in line today at 6:20 am (Polls open at 7 am). There were about 30 people in front of me, every single one wearing a mask and reasonably distanced. Got into the voting booth around 7:20 Pretty good signs overall tbh, especially if people have more tolerance for those daytime lines than I do. <cite>Reg posted [p:945877726] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>Just got back in from voting. A few observations: Got an "I Voted" stylus in addition to the sticker because they were giving out cheap paper ones to let people not have to touch the touchscreens on the voting machinesFirst tried to go around 10 am yesterday (Early voting opened Tuesday in Texas). The line was easily hundreds of people long. Looked like most, if not all, of the line that I could see was both properly masked and social distancedGot in line today at 6:20 am (Polls open at 7 am). There were about 30 people in front of me, every single one wearing a mask and reasonably distanced. Got into the voting booth around 7:20 Pretty good signs overall tbh, especially if people have more tolerance for those daytime lines than I do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 10/15/20 9:27:50 AM #442:	I assume mask equates to a Biden voter at this point, so good start. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:945878584] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>I assume mask equates to a Biden voter at this point, so good start. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pyresword 10/15/20 9:40:24 AM #443:	FFDragon posted... I assume mask equates to a Biden voter at this point, so good start. My family would suggest this is not true, unless the half of them that were Trump supporters have done a political 180 over the last several months. At least, everyone in my family was willing to wear a mask and socially distance at a funeral I had to attend. I don't know how they behave outside of that, so I guess it's possible they are more careful about precautions when interacting with family than with the general public, but I'd be a bit surprised. --- I didn't do guru this year but azuarc can be in my sig anyways. <cite>pyresword posted [p:945878861] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>FFDragon posted...</cite> <quote>I assume mask equates to a Biden voter at this point, so good start. </quote> My family would suggest this is not true, unless the half of them that were Trump supporters have done a political 180 over the last several months. At least, everyone in my family was willing to wear a mask and socially distance at a funeral I had to attend. I don't know how they behave outside of that, so I guess it's possible they are more careful about precautions when interacting with family than with the general public, but I'd be a bit surprised.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 10/15/20 9:44:59 AM #444:	I believe a majority of Republicans are pro-mask (though certainly a smaller fraction of them than Democrats) Anyway, here are some numbers on reduced college enrollment this fall: https://twitter.com/crampell/status/1316726388007763968 I don't know if I expected it to be higher or lower (and it makes sense why people would not enroll), but I'm guessing this is gonna have some long term ripple effects. --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:945878976] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>I believe a majority of Republicans are pro-mask (though certainly a smaller fraction of them than Democrats) Anyway, here are some numbers on reduced college enrollment this fall: https://twitter.com/crampell/status/1316726388007763968 I don't know if I expected it to be higher or lower (and it makes sense why people would not enroll), but I'm guessing this is gonna have some long term ripple effects. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 10/15/20 9:47:23 AM #445:	Two covid cases in/around the Biden campaign: https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1316736198820462593 Thankfully it sounds like Biden/Harris probably weren't exposed --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:945879034] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>Two covid cases in/around the Biden campaign: https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1316736198820462593 Thankfully it sounds like Biden/Harris probably weren't exposed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 10/15/20 10:41:17 AM #446:	Lightning Strikes posted... I wouldn't really agree with those last two because that's what they said last time. However, this story is clearly fabricated in an attempt to win the election on false pretenses. This is not the same as the FBI investigating a candidate. If anything you would hope the fact that the Republicans are doing something so obviously shady and false would actually hurt them. It's a major test for democracy in America. Last time Hillary Clinton's e-mail controversy had constantly hounded her for the whole election cycle. This doesn't seem like anywhere near as big a deal. Probably won't swing anyone one way or the other. Honestly I don't even really believe the October Surprise in 2016 really hurt Hillary Clinton that much. It definitely didn't help, but at worst it was just the last straw. --- Anyone who thinks Rey is a Mary Sue is effectively a misogynist. <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:945880633] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>Lightning Strikes posted... </cite> <quote>I wouldn't really agree with those last two because that's what they said last time. However, this story is clearly fabricated in an attempt to win the election on false pretenses. This is not the same as the FBI investigating a candidate. If anything you would hope the fact that the Republicans are doing something so obviously shady and false would actually hurt them. It's a major test for democracy in America.</quote> Last time Hillary Clinton's e-mail controversy had constantly hounded her for the whole election cycle. This doesn't seem like anywhere near as big a deal. Probably won't swing anyone one way or the other. Honestly I don't even really believe the October Surprise in 2016 really hurt Hillary Clinton that much. It definitely didn't help, but at worst it was just the last straw. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 10/15/20 10:42:22 AM #447:	Kelly Loeffler touting an endorsement from the fucking QAnon candidate: https://twitter.com/kloeffler/status/1316749393664638978?s=21 I very much hope she loses! --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:945880663] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>Kelly Loeffler touting an endorsement from the fucking QAnon candidate: https://twitter.com/kloeffler/status/1316749393664638978?s=21 I very much hope she loses! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 10/15/20 10:46:32 AM #448:	LinkMarioSamus posted... Last time Hillary Clinton's e-mail controversy had constantly hounded her for the whole election cycle. This doesn't seem like anywhere near as big a deal. Probably won't swing anyone one way or the other. Honestly I don't even really believe the October Surprise in 2016 really hurt Hillary Clinton that much. It definitely didn't help, but at worst it was just the last straw. No, it was very likely decisive: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-comey-letter-probably-cost-clinton-the-election/ --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:945880779] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>LinkMarioSamus posted... </cite> <quote>Last time Hillary Clinton's e-mail controversy had constantly hounded her for the whole election cycle. This doesn't seem like anywhere near as big a deal. Probably won't swing anyone one way or the other. Honestly I don't even really believe the October Surprise in 2016 really hurt Hillary Clinton that much. It definitely didn't help, but at worst it was just the last straw.</quote>No, it was very likely decisive: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-comey-letter-probably-cost-clinton-the-election/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 10/15/20 10:47:04 AM #449:	Also I filled out a form to register for voting abroad a few weeks ago and haven't gotten my ballot yet. I requested it be e-mailed IIRC so I'm not sure where the heck it is. --- Anyone who thinks Rey is a Mary Sue is effectively a misogynist. <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:945880792] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>Also I filled out a form to register for voting abroad a few weeks ago and haven't gotten my ballot yet. I requested it be e-mailed IIRC so I'm not sure where the heck it is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 10/15/20 10:49:29 AM #450:	LordoftheMorons posted... No, it was very likely decisive: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-comey-letter-probably-cost-clinton-the-election/ Again, I'm operating under the impression that people were sick of Hillary Clinton because of how much of a fixture she had been in US politics ever since her husband took office, so people who hated both candidates panicked and voted for Trump at the last minute. At worst the Comey letter served as an additional impetus, but it might have still happened anyway. --- Anyone who thinks Rey is a Mary Sue is effectively a misogynist. <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:945880865] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite> <quote>No, it was very likely decisive: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-comey-letter-probably-cost-clinton-the-election/</quote> Again, I'm operating under the impression that people were sick of Hillary Clinton because of how much of a fixture she had been in US politics ever since her husband took office, so people who hated both candidates panicked and voted for Trump at the last minute. At worst the Comey letter served as an additional impetus, but it might have still happened anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 10/15/20 10:53:12 AM #451:	Imagine a world where James Comey has the sense to understand that maybe, just maybe he shouldn't say anything to influence an election. He might even still have a job! --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:945880981] in Politics C... [t:79033739]...</cite> <quote>Imagine a world where James Comey has the sense to understand that maybe, just maybe he shouldn't say anything to influence an election. He might even still have a job! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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