Poll of the Day > TikTok to sue Trump Administration over ban.

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WastelandCowboy 08/08/20 1:27:09 PM #1:	https://www.npr.org/2020/08/08/900394707/tiktok-to-sue-trump-administration-over-ban-as-soon-as-tuesday TikTok is planning to sue the Trump administration, challenging the president's executive order banning the service from the United States. The video-sharing app hugely popular with the smartphone generation TikTok will file the federal lawsuit as soon as Tuesday, according to a person who was directly involved in the forthcoming suit but was not authorized to speak for the company. It will be filed in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of California, where TikTok's American operations are based, the person said. NPR has learned that the lawsuit will argue that the president's far-reaching action is unconstitutional because it failed to give the company a chance to respond. It also alleges that the administration's national security justification for the order is baseless, according to the source. "It's based on pure speculation and conjecture," the source said. "The order has no findings of fact, just reiterates rhetoric about China that has been kicking around." The White House declined to comment on the expected litigation, but defended the president's executive order. "The Administration is committed to protecting the American people from all cyber related threats to critical infrastructure, public health and safety, and our economic and national security," according to White House spokesman Judd Deere. Under the president's Thursday night executive order, "any transaction" between a U.S. citizen and TikTok's Beijing-based parent company, ByteDance, will be outlawed in 45 days for national security reasons. Such a sweeping ban would be fatal for TikTok in the U.S. It is hugely popular among teenagers and twenty-somethings in the U.S., where more than 100 million users have downloaded the app. They use it to share dances and comedy skits in 60-second video bites, which often go viral. The app has become such a cultural phenomenon that it has become a platform to discover new music and has even launched several breakout hits that have topped the Billboard charts. The app has also been used to antagonize the president, including when thousands of teens reserved tickets to the president's rally in Tulsa, Okla. with no intention of going, inflating the Trump campaign's expectations for the event and causing embarrassment over the disappointing turnout. If the presidential ban goes into effect, the app may no longer be able to send software updates, rendering TikTok unmanageable on smartphones, and eventually nonfunctional, with time. The lawsuit stands to cut off American advertisers on its app and force Apple and Google to remove it from mobile app stores. TikTok's more than 1,000 U.S.-based employees could have their paychecks indefinitely frozen. It could force landlords housing TikTok operations to evict them. And Trump's order could make it impossible for American lawyers to represent TikTok in any U.S. legal proceedings. The source familiar with TikTok's internal discussions on the matter says the president's order appeared rushed and did not include carve-outs or exceptions for TikTok to maintain any legal representation, which the company plans to argue is a violation of due process rights. Typically, if the federal government launches an investigation, it will inform the company with a subpoena or some other kind of notice demanding a response to allegations of misconduct or malfeasance. Federal investigators at times also call representatives of the company for a confidential meeting about a looming enforcement action. According to those working on TikTok's legal team, no such outreach from the White House requesting evidence took place before Thursday's executive order, and TikTok lawyers view that as a short-cutting of standard procedure. As such, the president's move took many inside TikTok aback. Officials at TikTok acknowledged as much in its response to the order. "We are shocked by the recent Executive Order, which was issued without any due process," TikTok said in a statement. "The text of the decision makes it plain that there has been a reliance on unnamed 'reports' with no citations, fears that the app "may be" used for misinformation campaigns with no substantiation of such fears, and concerns about the collection of data that is industry standard for thousands of mobile apps around the world." Officials at TikTok declined to publicly comment on the looming legal battle. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:943145334] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>https://www.npr.org/2020/08/08/900394707/tiktok-to-sue-trump-administration-over-ban-as-soon-as-tuesday <quote>TikTok is planning to sue the Trump administration, challenging the president's executive order banning the service from the United States. The video-sharing app hugely popular with the smartphone generation TikTok will file the federal lawsuit as soon as Tuesday, according to a person who was directly involved in the forthcoming suit but was not authorized to speak for the company. It will be filed in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of California, where TikTok's American operations are based, the person said. NPR has learned that the lawsuit will argue that the president's far-reaching action is unconstitutional because it failed to give the company a chance to respond. It also alleges that the administration's national security justification for the order is baseless, according to the source. "It's based on pure speculation and conjecture," the source said. "The order has no findings of fact, just reiterates rhetoric about China that has been kicking around." The White House declined to comment on the expected litigation, but defended the president's executive order. "The Administration is committed to protecting the American people from all cyber related threats to critical infrastructure, public health and safety, and our economic and national security," according to White House spokesman Judd Deere. Under the president's Thursday night executive order, "any transaction" between a U.S. citizen and TikTok's Beijing-based parent company, ByteDance, will be outlawed in 45 days for national security reasons. Such a sweeping ban would be fatal for TikTok in the U.S. It is hugely popular among teenagers and twenty-somethings in the U.S., where more than 100 million users have downloaded the app. They use it to share dances and comedy skits in 60-second video bites, which often go viral. The app has become such a cultural phenomenon that it has become a platform to discover new music and has even launched several breakout hits that have topped the Billboard charts. The app has also been used to antagonize the president, including when thousands of teens reserved tickets to the president's rally in Tulsa, Okla. with no intention of going, inflating the Trump campaign's expectations for the event and causing embarrassment over the disappointing turnout. If the presidential ban goes into effect, the app may no longer be able to send software updates, rendering TikTok unmanageable on smartphones, and eventually nonfunctional, with time. The lawsuit stands to cut off American advertisers on its app and force Apple and Google to remove it from mobile app stores. TikTok's more than 1,000 U.S.-based employees could have their paychecks indefinitely frozen. It could force landlords housing TikTok operations to evict them. And Trump's order could make it impossible for American lawyers to represent TikTok in any U.S. legal proceedings. The source familiar with TikTok's internal discussions on the matter says the president's order appeared rushed and did not include carve-outs or exceptions for TikTok to maintain any legal representation, which the company plans to argue is a violation of due process rights. Typically, if the federal government launches an investigation, it will inform the company with a subpoena or some other kind of notice demanding a response to allegations of misconduct or malfeasance. Federal investigators at times also call representatives of the company for a confidential meeting about a looming enforcement action. According to those working on TikTok's legal team, no such outreach from the White House requesting evidence took place before Thursday's executive order, and TikTok lawyers view that as a short-cutting of standard procedure. As such, the president's move took many inside TikTok aback. Officials at TikTok acknowledged as much in its response to the order. "We are shocked by the recent Executive Order, which was issued without any due process," TikTok said in a statement. "The text of the decision makes it plain that there has been a reliance on unnamed 'reports' with no citations, fears that the app "may be" used for misinformation campaigns with no substantiation of such fears, and concerns about the collection of data that is industry standard for thousands of mobile apps around the world." Officials at TikTok declined to publicly comment on the looming legal battle.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/08/20 1:32:14 PM #2:	Good. Privacy concerns are a real problem and they need a real solution, not shot from the hip political stunt. Theres no actual evidence that tiktok has done anything nefarious, meanwhile theres a mountain of evidence that Facebook and google doing all sorts of shady shit with our info. None of these companies are our friends so we need some actual legislation to protect our reasonable right to privacy. --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:943145462] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Good. Privacy concerns are a real problem and they need a real solution, not shot from the hip political stunt. Theres no actual evidence that tiktok has done anything nefarious, meanwhile theres a mountain of evidence that Facebook and google doing all sorts of shady shit with our info. None of these companies are our friends so we need some actual legislation to protect our reasonable right to privacy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 08/08/20 1:38:35 PM #3:	Cool. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:943145654] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Cool. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 08/08/20 2:10:55 PM #4:	"It's based on pure speculation and conjecture," the source said. "The order has no findings of fact, just reiterates rhetoric about China that has been kicking around." Feels like the old, "We're doing it, but you can't prove it!" defense >_> --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:943146675] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote> <quote>"It's based on pure speculation and conjecture," the source said. "The order has no findings of fact, just reiterates rhetoric about China that has been kicking around."</quote> Feels like the old, "We're doing it, but you can't prove it!" defense >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 08/08/20 2:12:30 PM #5:	Mead posted... Theres no actual evidence that tiktok has done anything nefarious, uh --- I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me - Mead on Fallout 76 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:943146722] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>Theres no actual evidence that tiktok has done anything nefarious,</quote> uh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/08/20 2:20:18 PM #6:	Smarkil posted... uh post it --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:943146954] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Smarkil posted... </cite> <quote>uh</quote> post it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 08/08/20 2:36:18 PM #7:	Smarkil posted... uh He's right. It's the same bullshit Trump claimed about Kaspersky. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:943147415] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote> uh </quote> He's right. It's the same bullshit Trump claimed about Kaspersky.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 08/08/20 2:38:37 PM #8:	Tiktok wants to continue spying on US citizens for the benefit of the CCP. They need to pack their fascistic bags and leave the US. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:943147492] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Tiktok wants to continue spying on US citizens for the benefit of the CCP. They need to pack their fascistic bags and leave the US.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 08/08/20 2:40:24 PM #9:	Hop103 posted... Tiktok wants to continue spying on US citizens for the benefit of the CCP. They need to pack their fascistic bags and leave the US. Soooo... baseless conjecture? --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZNqaAh6iLU <cite>Yellow posted [p:943147552] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Hop103 posted... </cite> <quote>Tiktok wants to continue spying on US citizens for the benefit of the CCP. They need to pack their fascistic bags and leave the US.</quote>Soooo... baseless conjecture? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 08/08/20 5:30:16 PM #10:	Smarkil posted... uh https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/02/27/us-government-fined-app-now-known-tiktok-million-illegally-collecting-childrens-data/ --- I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me - Mead on Fallout 76 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:943153037] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Smarkil posted... </cite> <quote>uh</quote> https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/02/27/us-government-fined-app-now-known-tiktok-million-illegally-collecting-childrens-data/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/08/20 5:35:55 PM #11:	Smarkil posted... https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/02/27/us-government-fined-app-now-known-tiktok-million-illegally-collecting-childrens-data/ thats more of an issue with the pre-merger company years ago not getting the appropriate parental consent for underage users It was dealt with swiftly and appropriately, and doesnt have anything to do with all the conspiracy gaslighting going on right now --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:943153205] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Smarkil posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/02/27/us-government-fined-app-now-known-tiktok-million-illegally-collecting-childrens-data/</quote> thats more of an issue with the pre-merger company years ago not getting the appropriate parental consent for underage users It was dealt with swiftly and appropriately, and doesnt have anything to do with all the conspiracy gaslighting going on right now </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 08/08/20 6:57:42 PM #12:	Yeah, makes sense they wouldn't take that laying down. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:943155886] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, makes sense they wouldn't take that laying down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 08/08/20 10:28:04 PM #13:	Mead posted... thats more of an issue with the pre-merger company years ago not getting the appropriate parental consent for underage users It was dealt with swiftly and appropriately, and doesnt have anything to do with all the conspiracy gaslighting going on right now How can you possibly in the same breath chastise Facebook and Google for collecting user data and simultaneously give a pass to TikTok at the very best doing exactly the same thing they do, and at worst doing far worse than they do considering their data collection guidelines are under far less scrutiny. Here's more if you really think the data collection is just a 'conspiracy'. Zimperium - A mobile security company https://blog.zimperium.com/zimperium-analyzes-tiktoks-security-and-privacy-risks/ Penetrum - A mobile security company https://penetrum.com/tiktok/Penetrum_TikTok_Security_Analysis_whitepaper.pdf Or how bout that their exists API's built into the system that move data directly to Alibaba which openly admits in their privacy policy that they share and sell user data. It may not be used as some sort of weird CCP spy shit, but its absolutely egregious regardless. I don't know that it means it should be banned by the government unless they can prove some sort of government spy shit (impossible) but let's not pretend this fucking thing is all hunky dory. --- I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me - Mead on Fallout 76 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:943162496] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>thats more of an issue with the pre-merger company years ago not getting the appropriate parental consent for underage users It was dealt with swiftly and appropriately, and doesnt have anything to do with all the conspiracy gaslighting going on right now</quote> How can you possibly in the same breath chastise Facebook and Google for collecting user data and simultaneously give a pass to TikTok at the very best doing exactly the same thing they do, and at worst doing far worse than they do considering their data collection guidelines are under far less scrutiny. Here's more if you really think the data collection is just a 'conspiracy'. Zimperium - A mobile security company https://blog.zimperium.com/zimperium-analyzes-tiktoks-security-and-privacy-risks/ Penetrum - A mobile security company https://penetrum.com/tiktok/Penetrum_TikTok_Security_Analysis_whitepaper.pdf Or how bout that their exists API's built into the system that move data directly to Alibaba which openly admits in their privacy policy that they share and sell user data. It may not be used as some sort of weird CCP spy shit, but its absolutely egregious regardless. I don't know that it means it should be banned by the government unless they can prove some sort of government spy shit (impossible) but let's not pretend this fucking thing is all hunky dory. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JixHedgehog 08/09/20 3:04:43 AM #14:	So if M$ dont step in to buy it, or they want to and China doesnt want to sell it, the app is done? --- Not changing my sig until Nintendo announces the Switch XL 1/12/2017 <cite>JixHedgehog posted [p:943169008] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>So if M$ dont step in to buy it, or they want to and China doesnt want to sell it, the app is done? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/09/20 3:51:40 AM #15:	Smarkil posted... How can you possibly in the same breath chastise Facebook and Google for collecting user data and simultaneously give a pass to TikTok who said anything about giving them a pass Mead posted... None of these companies are our friends so we need some actual legislation to protect our reasonable right to privacy. --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:943169722] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Smarkil posted... </cite> <quote>How can you possibly in the same breath chastise Facebook and Google for collecting user data and simultaneously give a pass to TikTok</quote> who said anything about giving them a pass Mead posted... </cite> <quote>None of these companies are our friends so we need some actual legislation to protect our reasonable right to privacy.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 08/09/20 4:03:48 AM #16:	Mead posted... who said anything about giving them a pass You Theres no actual evidence that tiktok has done anything nefarious And guess what. You know how many American laws would apply to a Chinese company? I'm gonna give you a hint. It's zero. --- I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me - Mead on Fallout 76 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:943169921] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>who said anything about giving them a pass</quote> You <quote>Theres no actual evidence that tiktok has done anything nefarious</quote> And guess what. You know how many American laws would apply to a Chinese company? I'm gonna give you a hint. It's zero. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/09/20 4:14:56 AM #17:	Smarkil posted... And guess what. You know how many American laws would apply to a Chinese company? I'm gonna give you a hint. It's zero. if theyre operating in the US then our laws do apply to them --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:943170051] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Smarkil posted... </cite> <quote>And guess what. You know how many American laws would apply to a Chinese company? I'm gonna give you a hint. It's zero.</quote> if theyre operating in the US then our laws do apply to them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyborgSage00x0 08/09/20 4:33:16 AM #18:	If there's a way both parties could lose and lose money, that would be great. --- PotD's resident Film Expert. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted [p:943170253] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>If there's a way both parties could lose and lose money, that would be great. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 08/09/20 5:55:37 AM #19:	Mead posted... Good. Privacy concerns are a real problem and they need a real solution, not shot from the hip political stunt. Theres no actual evidence that tiktok has done anything nefarious, meanwhile theres a mountain of evidence that Facebook and google doing all sorts of shady shit with our info. None of these companies are our friends so we need some actual legislation to protect our reasonable right to privacy. Hes just trying to distract atm. Voters need to focus on the real issue of the pandemic hes fucked up royally. --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:943171159] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>Good. Privacy concerns are a real problem and they need a real solution, not shot from the hip political stunt. Theres no actual evidence that tiktok has done anything nefarious, meanwhile theres a mountain of evidence that Facebook and google doing all sorts of shady shit with our info. None of these companies are our friends so we need some actual legislation to protect our reasonable right to privacy.</quote>Hes just trying to distract atm. Voters need to focus on the real issue of the pandemic hes fucked up royally. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 08/09/20 1:10:55 PM #20:	Smarkil posted... Or how bout that their exists API's built into the system that move data directly to Alibaba which openly admits in their privacy policy that they share and sell user data. Oh shit. Broken clock time? This actually kind of makes sense? Though I'd have to do more research. Yeah if they're sending data directly to a Chinese company with no accountability that is kind of alarming. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZNqaAh6iLU <cite>Yellow posted [p:943180237] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Smarkil posted... </cite> <quote>Or how bout that their exists API's built into the system that move data directly to Alibaba which openly admits in their privacy policy that they share and sell user data.</quote>Oh shit. Broken clock time? This actually kind of makes sense? Though I'd have to do more research. Yeah if they're sending data directly to a Chinese company with no accountability that is kind of alarming. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/09/20 2:20:41 PM #21:	If the CCP wants our data it would be a hell of a lot easier for them to just buy it from one of the many US companies that would happily sell it to them --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:943182422] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>If the CCP wants our data it would be a hell of a lot easier for them to just buy it from one of the many US companies that would happily sell it to them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_AdjI_ 08/09/20 2:30:42 PM #22:	Smarkil posted... https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/02/27/us-government-fined-app-now-known-tiktok-million-illegally-collecting-childrens-data/ Oh, there's no question that TikTok is collecting an absurd amount of data. They haven't however, done anything actually nefarious with it, meaning they're about as much as a "national security threat" as Google or Facebook. Certainly, data collection on that scale is alarming, and it introduces the possibility for those who purchase the data to use it for nefarious deeds, but that's true regardless of who collects it. These concerns should be prompting large-scale regulations on data collection that apply to everyone that operates on American e-soil, not a publicity stunt for Trump to score anti-China points and distract people from his mishandling of the pandemic. <cite>_AdjI_ posted [p:943182692] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Smarkil posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/02/27/us-government-fined-app-now-known-tiktok-million-illegally-collecting-childrens-data/</quote> Oh, there's no question that TikTok is collecting an absurd amount of data. They haven't however, done anything actually nefarious with it, meaning they're about as much as a "national security threat" as Google or Facebook. Certainly, data collection on that scale is alarming, and it introduces the possibility for those who purchase the data to use it for nefarious deeds, but that's true regardless of who collects it. These concerns should be prompting large-scale regulations on data collection that apply to everyone that operates on American e-soil, not a publicity stunt for Trump to score anti-China points and distract people from his mishandling of the pandemic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 08/09/20 2:39:24 PM #23:	_AdjI_ posted... Oh, there's no question that TikTok is collecting an absurd amount of data. They haven't however, done anything actually nefarious with it, meaning they're about as much as a "national security threat" as Google or Facebook. Certainly, data collection on that scale is alarming, and it introduces the possibility for those who purchase the data to use it for nefarious deeds, but that's true regardless of who collects it. These concerns should be prompting large-scale regulations on data collection that apply to everyone that operates on American e-soil, not a publicity stunt for Trump to score anti-China points and distract people from his mishandling of the pandemic. There's no doubt in my mind that Trump did this just because he hates China, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing. I'm ok with Google using our data because they're under our jurisdiction and they're very transparent about their business model. They provide free services and we provide anonymous data. They don't want to violate that trust because it would be bad for them financially. Alibaba, on the other hand, has no jurisdiction. All companies in China are in one way or another controlled by the Chinese government. They have no privacy rules, no accountability, and can do whatever they want with it. The way I see this is Trump went to his "best people", told them he wanted revenge on Chinea, and they got their lawyers and slapped this together, finding the best legal grounds to get back at China. Imo their legal grounds are good. There's no way Trump understands this lawsuit anyway. I don't expect any politician over the age of 65 to understand, and Trump definitely wouldn't. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZNqaAh6iLU <cite>Yellow posted [p:943182976] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>_AdjI_ posted... </cite> <quote>Oh, there's no question that TikTok is collecting an absurd amount of data. They haven't however, done anything actually nefarious with it, meaning they're about as much as a "national security threat" as Google or Facebook. Certainly, data collection on that scale is alarming, and it introduces the possibility for those who purchase the data to use it for nefarious deeds, but that's true regardless of who collects it. These concerns should be prompting large-scale regulations on data collection that apply to everyone that operates on American e-soil, not a publicity stunt for Trump to score anti-China points and distract people from his mishandling of the pandemic.</quote>There's no doubt in my mind that Trump did this just because he hates China, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing. I'm ok with Google using our data because they're under our jurisdiction and they're very transparent about their business model. They provide free services and we provide anonymous data. They don't want to violate that trust because it would be bad for them financially. Alibaba, on the other hand, has no jurisdiction. All companies in China are in one way or another controlled by the Chinese government. They have no privacy rules, no accountability, and can do whatever they want with it. The way I see this is Trump went to his "best people", told them he wanted revenge on Chinea, and they got their lawyers and slapped this together, finding the best legal grounds to get back at China. Imo their legal grounds are good. There's no way Trump understands this lawsuit anyway. I don't expect any politician over the age of 65 to understand, and Trump definitely wouldn't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/09/20 3:14:54 PM #24:	Yellow posted... I'm ok with Google using our data because they're under our jurisdiction other way around actually --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:943184064] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Yellow posted... </cite> <quote>I'm ok with Google using our data because they're under our jurisdiction</quote> other way around actually </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeeVees 08/09/20 3:57:25 PM #25:	They really need to go to war. It's gonna be so much fun. --- Rudy sucks <cite>VeeVees posted [p:943185288] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>They really need to go to war. It's gonna be so much fun. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 08/09/20 4:01:11 PM #26:	VeeVees posted... They really need to go to war. It's gonna be so much fun. What would be fun about China losing to tomahawks? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:943185405] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>VeeVees posted...</cite> <quote>They really need to go to war. It's gonna be so much fun. </quote> What would be fun about China losing to tomahawks?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 08/09/20 4:03:53 PM #27:	Can china fuck off already? It's like everything they do is just to be an asshole for the sake of being an asshole --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:943185492] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Can china fuck off already? It's like everything they do is just to be an asshole for the sake of being an asshole </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeeVees 08/09/20 4:06:45 PM #28:	Revelation34 posted... What would be fun about China losing to tomahawks? I hope it will escalate to a real world war where pretty much the entire world is a warzone. --- Rudy sucks <cite>VeeVees posted [p:943185581] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>What would be fun about China losing to tomahawks?</quote>I hope it will escalate to a real world war where pretty much the entire world is a warzone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/09/20 4:53:18 PM #29:	Muscles posted... Can china fuck off already? It's like everything they do is just to be an asshole for the sake of being an asshole Im not saying China doesnt have a ton of issues, but youre being fed a bunch of red scare propaganda about them on a daily basis --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:943187190] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>Can china fuck off already? It's like everything they do is just to be an asshole for the sake of being an asshole</quote> Im not saying China doesnt have a ton of issues, but youre being fed a bunch of red scare propaganda about them on a daily basis </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/09/20 4:54:09 PM #30:	VeeVees posted... I hope it will escalate to a real world war where pretty much the entire world is a warzone. girl you so edgy --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:943187221] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>VeeVees posted... </cite> <quote>I hope it will escalate to a real world war where pretty much the entire world is a warzone.</quote> girl you so edgy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 08/09/20 5:03:56 PM #31:	Mead posted... Im not saying China doesnt have a ton of issues, but youre being fed a bunch of red scare propaganda about them on a daily basis You can say the exact same thing about Russia. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:943187531] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>Im not saying China doesnt have a ton of issues, but youre being fed a bunch of red scare propaganda about them on a daily basis</quote>You can say the exact same thing about Russia. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/09/20 5:07:03 PM #32:	WastelandCowboy posted... You can say the exact same thing about Russia. yep --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:943187644] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>WastelandCowboy posted... </cite> <quote>You can say the exact same thing about Russia.</quote> yep </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 08/09/20 7:08:23 PM #33:	Muscles posted... Can china fuck off already? It's like everything they do is just to be an asshole for the sake of being an asshole "Trump made it up". --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:943191844] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted...</cite> <quote>Can china fuck off already? It's like everything they do is just to be an asshole for the sake of being an asshole </quote> "Trump made it up".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 08/09/20 7:45:18 PM #34:	Mead posted... Im not saying China doesnt have a ton of issues, but youre being fed a bunch of red scare propaganda about them on a daily basis Tbf Muscles seems exactly like the type to be suckered into propaganda. --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:943192933] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>Im not saying China doesnt have a ton of issues, but youre being fed a bunch of red scare propaganda about them on a daily basis</quote>Tbf Muscles seems exactly like the type to be suckered into propaganda. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 08/11/20 2:43:42 AM #35:	Mead posted... Im not saying China doesnt have a ton of issues, but youre being fed a bunch of red scare propaganda about them on a daily basis Tell that to the Uyghurs and hong kong --- I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me - Mead on Fallout 76 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:943242632] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>Im not saying China doesnt have a ton of issues, but youre being fed a bunch of red scare propaganda about them on a daily basis</quote> Tell that to the Uyghurs and hong kong </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SirPikachu 08/11/20 9:40:20 AM #36:	Good. Absolutely fuck China. --- 3DS FC: 4656 9282 1616 Everyone call me elf monster <cite>SirPikachu posted [p:943248557] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Good. Absolutely fuck China. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 08/11/20 3:09:18 PM #37:	SirPikachu posted... Good. Absolutely fuck China. What's good about making something up? Not to mention Trump making up something like this twice. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:943258902] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>SirPikachu posted...</cite> <quote>Good. Absolutely fuck China. </quote> What's good about making something up? Not to mention Trump making up something like this twice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_tall_midget 08/11/20 3:42:18 PM #38:	The Chinese could literally be hacking the regressives computers right now and they would still act like China are not doing the things they've been doing for the last 10 years. Yes, folks, it's all conspiracy theories, China are the good guys, it's the Drumpf's fault. Keep it up! <pats head> --- DRUUUMMMPPPFFF!!! <cite>The_tall_midget posted [p:943260280] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>The Chinese could literally be hacking the regressives computers right now and they would still act like China are not doing the things they've been doing for the last 10 years. Yes, folks, it's all conspiracy theories, China are the good guys, it's the Drumpf's fault. Keep it up! <pats head> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sonicplys 08/11/20 4:11:32 PM #39:	Ke$$$$$ha --- SF Giants, SF 49ers, GS Warriors, SJ Sharks. The 2010 to 2022 Game of the Decade: Greatest game of all time/ever made: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate AKA Smash 4.8 <cite>Sonicplys posted [p:943261500] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Ke$$$$$ha </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 08/11/20 4:56:32 PM #40:	The_tall_midget posted... The Chinese could literally be hacking the regressives computers right now and they would still act like China are not doing the things they've been doing for the last 10 years. Yes, folks, it's all conspiracy theories, China are the good guys, it's the Drumpf's fault. Keep it up! <pats head> So you also think Kaspersky did the same? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:943263646] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>The_tall_midget posted...</cite> <quote>The Chinese could literally be hacking the regressives computers right now and they would still act like China are not doing the things they've been doing for the last 10 years. Yes, folks, it's all conspiracy theories, China are the good guys, it's the Drumpf's fault. Keep it up! <pats head> </quote> So you also think Kaspersky did the same?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/11/20 5:04:50 PM #41:	Smarkil posted... Tell that to the Uyghurs and hong kong whats going on with the uyghurs is horrific and world leaders should be ashamed that they arent doing more to pressure China into stopping what theyre doing The Hong Kong situation sucks but it was inevitable, its part of China --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:943264042] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Smarkil posted... </cite> <quote>Tell that to the Uyghurs and hong kong</quote> whats going on with the uyghurs is horrific and world leaders should be ashamed that they arent doing more to pressure China into stopping what theyre doing The Hong Kong situation sucks but it was inevitable, its part of China </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 08/11/20 5:06:53 PM #42:	Mead posted... whats going on with the uyghurs is horrific and world leaders should be ashamed that they arent doing more to pressure China into stopping what theyre doing The Hong Kong situation sucks but it was inevitable, its part of China They just don't want to do anything about it. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:943264137] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote> whats going on with the uyghurs is horrific and world leaders should be ashamed that they arent doing more to pressure China into stopping what theyre doing The Hong Kong situation sucks but it was inevitable, its part of China </quote> They just don't want to do anything about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_tall_midget 08/11/20 5:49:17 PM #43:	Revelation34 posted... So you also think Kaspersky did the same? So you also think that SERN will take over the world with a time machine? --- DRUUUMMMPPPFFF!!! <cite>The_tall_midget posted [p:943266052] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>So you also think Kaspersky did the same?</quote> So you also think that SERN will take over the world with a time machine? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 08/11/20 5:58:44 PM #44:	The_tall_midget posted... So you also think that SERN will take over the world with a time machine? Wat. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:943266433] in TikTok to ... [t:78900235]...</cite> <quote>The_tall_midget posted...</cite> <quote> So you also think that SERN will take over the world with a time machine? </quote> Wat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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