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Mr Lasastryke
07/02/20 5:38:56 PM
#102:


and yeah, lockdowns aren't always necessary. like jakyl said, if the population of a country voluntarily adheres to covid measures then sure, you don't need (much) government intervention.

when tons of people go "FUCK THAT I WANT TO GO TO A BAR ON FRIDAY NIGHT," the government doing nothing isn't going to work out as well, though.

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ChaosTonyV4
07/02/20 5:39:20 PM
#103:


https://twitter.com/asharangappa_/status/1278730881616826371?s=21



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Corrik7
07/02/20 5:41:45 PM
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TheRock1525
07/02/20 5:50:08 PM
#105:


Why the fuck is the response to a minor altercation in a parking always "let's pull out a gun"?

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Jakyl25
07/02/20 5:51:10 PM
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Jakyl25
07/02/20 5:52:15 PM
#107:


TheRock1525 posted...
Why the fuck is the response to a minor altercation in a parking always "let's pull out a gun"?


Hey she has more restraint than some police officers at least
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Corrik7
07/02/20 5:54:27 PM
#108:


So the pregnant woman and her husband were both charged with Felony Assault. And the husband was fired from his job over the incident.

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Forceful_Dragon
07/02/20 6:03:44 PM
#109:


The "full video" is not playing in the article so I don't know what other information it contains that would make me sympathetic to the woman pointing the gun.

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UshiromiyaEva
07/02/20 6:05:41 PM
#110:


Can't see the link, but I assume this is the story about the Karen who screamed. "No one is racist!" and then pulled a gun?

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Corrik7
07/02/20 6:08:16 PM
#111:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
The "full video" is not playing in the article so I don't know what other information it contains that would make me sympathetic to the woman pointing the gun.
Full video just shows the lead up. The women are confronting the woman. She asks them to stop blocking her getting into her car. Her husband comes around and helps her into the car. The women call the woman a bitch and a racist. The man asks who they think they are. They threaten to beat his white ass. He returns to the car. The woman tells them they can't just call people racist because they are white. That no one is racist (assuming she means her and her husband). She says she is sorry if someone was to you in the past to make you feel that way. He goes to back out. The teen appears to go behind the vehicle and the mother slaps the vehicle. In which the woman gets out of the car with a gun and tells them to back off and away from the vehicle etc.

You don't have to be sympathetic. I said you decide.

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Jakyl25
07/02/20 6:08:52 PM
#112:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
The "full video" is not playing in the article so I don't know what other information it contains that would make me sympathetic to the woman pointing the gun.


They get in an argument about the white woman bumping into the black girl on her way out of a door

Things are tense, white woman gets in the car and tries to be calm and apologize and diffuse the situation. Husband gets out and says who do you think you are? to the black woman and girl and then gets back in the car

Black girl turns to walk away (while filming) when suddenly theres another commotion behind her and the white woman has gotten back out of the car and pulled the gun. The dispute now is that the black woman claims they tried to back into her with their car to bump her, and the white couple claims that she hit the back window with her hand first and thats why they have her at gunpoint now.
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TheRock1525
07/02/20 6:12:52 PM
#113:


Jakyl25 posted...
and the white couple claims that she hit the back window with her hand first and thats why they have her at gunpoint now.
This seems like a totally appropriate and rational response.

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Reg
07/02/20 6:17:36 PM
#114:


Speaking of Covid, Dallas County had over 700 new cases announced today. Before this, the highest recorded new cases in one day was 601 on the 30th (There were 544 yesterday)

gonna be up to 1k/day within a couple weeks at the rate things are going.
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Corrik7
07/02/20 6:18:49 PM
#115:


TheRock1525 posted...
This seems like a totally appropriate and rational response.
So you agree with both being charged for felony assault and the husband being fired from his job then?

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/02/20 6:20:14 PM
#116:


Corrik7 posted...
Full video just shows the lead up. The women are confronting the woman.

Do you understand that there was an incident beforehand that caused someone to start recording, or do you think the conflict's full context is entirely within the video?

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Jakyl25
07/02/20 6:21:07 PM
#117:


If theres evidence that he tried to back into her with his car thats probably felony assault, right?

And holding someone who is no threat to you at gunpoint definitely seems like felony assault
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Jakyl25
07/02/20 6:22:46 PM
#118:


Assault is a felony crime when committed with the intent to murder or cause great bodily harm or when committed with the intent to commit another felony, such as kidnapping or robbery. Assault or battery, when committed against certain victims, such as a human services agency employee, police officer, or a pregnant woman, is also a felony. Additionally, assault or battery is a felony when committed with a dangerous weapon, including a firearm. To learn more, see Assault with a Deadly Weapon in Michigan.

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TheRock1525
07/02/20 6:25:17 PM
#119:


Corrik7 posted...
So you agree with both being charged for felony assault and the husband being fired from his job then?
Yes, mostly because a gun shouldn't be pulled unless it's a life or death situation.

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/02/20 6:25:23 PM
#120:


Reg posted...
Speaking of Covid, Dallas County had over 700 new cases announced today. Before this, the highest recorded new cases in one day was 601 on the 30th (There were 544 yesterday)

gonna be up to 1k/day within a couple weeks at the rate things are going.

The future is now

https://twitter.com/dallasnews/status/1278809357501726720?s=19

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Reg
07/02/20 6:29:47 PM
#121:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
The future is now

https://twitter.com/dallasnews/status/1278809357501726720?s=19
tHe CUrVe wAs FlAttEnED tho
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LordoftheMorons
07/02/20 6:31:47 PM
#122:


Reg posted...
tHe CUrVe wAs FlAttEnED tho
This wouldn't be happening if only everyone had listened to Muffin and not worn a mask or socially distanced or changed their behavior whatsoever!!!

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Corrik7
07/02/20 6:37:10 PM
#123:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Do you understand that there was an incident beforehand that caused someone to start recording, or do you think the conflict's full context is entirely within the video?
Um, duh?

The part off video, because it wasn't recorded and can't be part of the "full video", was that supposedly when entering a chipotle the pregnant woman possibly bumped into the teenager and didn't apologize.

Lol and?

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Corrik7
07/02/20 6:41:21 PM
#124:


Jakyl25 posted...
If theres evidence that he tried to back into her with his car thats probably felony assault, right?

And holding someone who is no threat to you at gunpoint definitely seems like felony assault
I don't think the video supports him trying to back into anyone. But, I am interested in your view of it.

Mostly.

A. Do you agree this is racism.
B. Do you think the husband should have been fired from his job.
C. Do you agree they both will be found guilty of felony assault
D. Do you think that there are any charges that the other party would be guilty of? Harrassment, threats, vandalism. Etc.


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HeroDelTiempo17
07/02/20 6:45:11 PM
#125:


Corrik7 posted...
Um, duh?

The part off video, because it wasn't recorded and can't be part of the "full video", was that supposedly when entering a chipotle the pregnant woman possibly bumped into the teenager and didn't apologize.

Lol and?

Okay, so now you decide.

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Forceful_Dragon
07/02/20 6:47:52 PM
#126:


Yeah finally got the video to play. If they were trying to leave then I don't understand why either of them would have been walking to get behind their car.

But then pulling a gun is an absurd overreaction. That's completely skipping the steps of honking your horn out rolling down your window and telling her to move so you can leave.

It seems like the women recording were making a mountain out of a molehill to begin with, but then the woman in the car makes a planetoid out of the mountain.

But yes absolutely prosecute for the pulling of the gun and aiming it at people in that situation, and if you can prove intent to hit with car then that too. But from what I saw I don't know that you could prove they were trying to hit anyone with their car and were just trying to leave. :shrug:

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Jakyl25
07/02/20 6:48:18 PM
#127:


Corrik7 posted...
A. Do you agree this is racism.
B. Do you think the husband should have been fired from his job.
C. Do you agree they both will be found guilty of felony assault
D. Do you think that there are any charges that the other party would be guilty of? Harrassment, threats, vandalism. Etc.


A.) No way to truly know, but the White woman did say White people arent racist which was a big red flag. Who do you think you are? is another red flag to me but by no means definitive.
B.) Whats his job? How important is public image to that job? Was there a statement from his company?
C.) I dont trust the justice system so I cant say for sure, but the woman definitely should be. For the husband, it would take more testimony and evidence to get me to convict him.
D.) No, unless there is evidence that the black woman struck the car before it was in motion and she did damage.
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Jakyl25
07/02/20 6:51:14 PM
#128:


Something to possibly consider: who owns the gun, and how does that affect the husbands criminal liability if its in his name?
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Corrik7
07/02/20 6:51:33 PM
#129:


Jakyl25 posted...
B.) Whats his job? How important is public image to that job? Was there a statement from his company?
Worked for Oakland University in Veteran Affairs.

Fired immediately and scrubbed from website.

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Corrik7
07/02/20 6:52:30 PM
#130:


Jakyl25 posted...
Something to possibly consider: who owns the gun, and how does that affect the husbands criminal liability if its in his name?
They both owned guns and had proper permits to have them. The house representative said this shows how gun reform is needed. Sheriff said gun reform doesn't make sense regarding this as both were properly permitted to have guns.

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Jakyl25
07/02/20 6:54:24 PM
#131:


Probably would be better off suspending him pending the criminal outcome then
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red sox 777
07/02/20 6:54:24 PM
#132:


A black conservative sheriff in Florida is talking about deputizing every single legal gun owner in his county if BLM protests take off there, so that there are adequate police to handle the situation.

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LordoftheMorons
07/02/20 6:56:17 PM
#133:


https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1278815365620006912

Thank god

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Mr Lasastryke
07/02/20 6:57:36 PM
#134:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1278815365620006912

Thank god

muffin is about to go berserk

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MoogleKupo141
07/02/20 7:10:03 PM
#135:


rekt
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UshiromiyaEva
07/02/20 7:33:00 PM
#136:


He was really just waiting for them 4 digits.

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Corrik7
07/02/20 7:40:17 PM
#137:


EVO pretty much just got cancelled.

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Reg
07/02/20 8:19:49 PM
#138:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1278815365620006912

Thank god
thank god
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Jakyl25
07/02/20 8:56:55 PM
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SmartMuffin
07/02/20 9:20:00 PM
#140:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
muffin is about to go berserk

It's semi-likely that I will spend my wedding night in jail.

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GildedFool
07/02/20 9:22:16 PM
#141:


SmartMuffin posted...
It's semi-likely that I will spend my wedding night in jail.
I'd like to preserve post this as evidence of intent.

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Jakyl25
07/02/20 9:24:43 PM
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LordoftheMorons
07/02/20 9:30:41 PM
#143:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://www.axios.com/trump-kushner-second-thoughts-408d5a33-725d-442a-88e4-d6ab6742c139.html

So much for all of Kim and Kanyes activism
As someone who might end up in jail, youd think hed be all for prison reform...!

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LordoftheMorons
07/02/20 9:46:32 PM
#144:


Apparently Herman Cain posted an anti-mask tweet after testing positive:
https://twitter.com/kfile/status/1278832107004067840?s=21

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red sox 777
07/02/20 10:35:27 PM
#145:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Apparently Herman Cain posted an anti-mask tweet after testing positive:
https://twitter.com/kfile/status/1278832107004067840?s=21

He's a man of true principle who's not going to sacrifice them just because it's personally bad for him.

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ChaosTonyV4
07/02/20 10:40:30 PM
#146:


LordoftheMorons posted...
As someone who might end up in jail, youd think hed be all for prison reform...!

Bruh you cant be serious

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Corrik7
07/03/20 12:15:46 AM
#147:


I am somewhat amused how the lock X up crowd politically has shifted from Republicans to Democrats recently.


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red13n
07/03/20 12:22:38 AM
#148:


Corrik7 posted...
I am somewhat amused how the lock X up crowd politically has shifted from Republicans to Democrats recently.

because the best case Republicans can make for jailing Democrats seems to be...Obamagate.

And none of them even know what that is.

I don't know what this is.

No one knows what the fuck that is other than that the far right salivates at the idea of locking up a black guy.

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Corrik7
07/03/20 12:26:25 AM
#149:


red13n posted...
because the best case Republicans can make for jailing Democrats seems to be...Obamagate.

And none of them even know what that is.

I don't know what this is.

No one knows what the fuck that is other than that the far right salivates at the idea of locking up a black guy.
I am talking about how Republicans went from lock her up in 2016 to Dems going lock him up in 2020.

I guess wanting to lock up the candidate of the other party is going to be a mainstay for a long time now or something.

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LordoftheMorons
07/03/20 12:38:24 AM
#150:


Corrik7 posted...
I am talking about how Republicans went from lock her up in 2016 to Dems going lock him up in 2020.

I guess wanting to lock up the candidate of the other party is going to be a mainstay for a long time now or something.
The difference is that Trump has committed crimes

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red13n
07/03/20 12:40:47 AM
#151:


Corrik7 posted...
I am talking about how Republicans went from lock her up in 2016 to Dems going lock him up in 2020.

Yes, I know, and Republicans are still trying to say lock up Obama.

Your idea that this is a one side thing is completely debunked.

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