Poll of the Day > Remember when people were thought covid cases would go down in summer?

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They've only been going up...what's this mean for the fall when people's immune systems typically go down?

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they would have if people had common sense

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Dragooncancer_ posted...

They've only been going up...what's this mean for the fall when people's immune systems typically go down?

numbers will go up even more and theyll find some new bullshit talking point to try to politicize the issue and shift blame onto others

Im starting to think we need a full scale revolution to put a stop to some of this madness, theres just no end to it

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...Something like 42 9/11's so far.

NeoSioType posted...

...Something like 42 9/11's so far.

Ya, it's like

Ok, we'll crack down on everything ever for a one-off event... but do very little against an easily preventable disease

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Americans have a thought that infections only go around during the winter, and that summer is disease-free. Because that's what we tend to have.

Mostly because we don't live in the tropics.

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It did go down for a lot of places
not america

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TheSlinja posted...

It did go down for a lot of places
not america

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Just confirms that tons of the people in the US are stubborn, self serving, assholes who don't care if someone lives or dies as long as they can have one fleeting moment of fun.

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EvilMegas posted...

Just confirms that tons of the people in the US are stubborn, self serving, assholes who don't care if someone lives or dies as long as they can have one fleeting moment of fun.

Or at least a haircut for poor Karen.

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EvilMegas posted...

if someone lives or dies

This gives me a great idea for a movie, Alec Baldwin would be perfect for the lead

The film was about "a killer robot driving instructor who travels back in time for some reason. This robot, he's got a heartbreaking decision to make about whether his best friend lives ... or dies. His best friend's a talking pie!

I call it The Terminizor: An Erotic Thriller

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^Does it have a shifty-eyed dog?

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Ogurisama posted...

This gives me a great idea for a movie, Alec Baldwin would be perfect for the lead

The film was about "a killer robot driving instructor who travels back in time for some reason. This robot, he's got a heartbreaking decision to make about whether his best friend lives ... or dies. His best friend's a talking pie!

I call it The Terminizor: An Erotic Thriller

I want credit on the movie. And 20 dollars

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keyblader1985 posted...

^Does it have a shifty-eyed dog?

How else are you suppose to know he is the villain?

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EvilMegas posted...

I want credit on the movie. And 20 dollars

Youll get a peanut

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EvilMegas posted...

Just confirms that tons of the people in the US are stubborn, self serving, assholes who don't care if someone lives or dies as long as they can have one fleeting moment of fun.

This. It's really ridiculous. I get so many guests checking into the hotel with no masks. They usually bring it up because they see me wearing one. They'll mention that they have one in the car and can go get it if it's required. So I politely mention that it is still mandated to wear one in public here, but they always refuse to go get it. My bosses have told me I can't refuse service to anyone who refuses, and none of the other staff wears one... It's like, what's the point of even trying? No one's going to go out of their way, even in a dangerous global outbreak.

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KogaSteelfang posted...

This. It's really ridiculous. I get so many guests checking into the hotel with no masks. They usually bring it up because they see me wearing one. They'll mention that they have one in the car and can go get it if it's required. So I politely mention that it is still mandated to wear one in public here, but they always refuse to go get it. My bosses have told me I can't refuse service to anyone who refuses, and none of the other staff wears one... It's like, what's the point of even trying? No one's going to go out of their way, even in a dangerous global outbreak.

Knowing the universe, and how twisted it is, either one of us might get sick the moment we cease to bother. Meanwhile, these self-servant people walk free, often clear of consequences.

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Dragooncancer_ posted...

They've only been going up...what's this mean for the fall when people's immune systems typically go down?

I mean the media won't report they are going down because that doesn't suit their narrative.

EvilMegas posted...

Just confirms that tons of the people in the US are stubborn, self serving, assholes who don't care if someone lives or dies as long as they can have one fleeting moment of fun.

I'm happy things are starting to open up in the UK next week. The hospitality industry comes to mind as I know several people who work in the industry, including my brother and furlough won't last forever.


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Honestly if some people refuse to understand that their rights end when they start to diminish the rights of others, then we are going to remove some of their fundamental rights that they have grown comfortable with since theyve obviously become so entitled that they think they matter more than other people.

Enough is enough. Things are going to change whether they like it or not.

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My state is going to the 100% capacity stage, right before July 4th and the governor won't be doing anymore more briefings. The whole country's given up at this point, the virus was the last thing on people's minds this month.

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How many people have you known who have died from coronavirus?

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Dragooncancer_ posted...

Remember when people were thought covid cases would go down in summer?

To be fair, very few people said that, and they were always wrong anyway.

The intelligent people said that the virulence of the virus might go down in warmer weather, the way normal flu does, but that we had no way to know until it happened. Most of that talk usually ended with "Well, we'll see what happens come June."

But the entire scenario is incredibly complex, and it's not as if there's only one variable at play anyway, so even if the virulence of the virus DID go down in summer, other factors could still increase rate of transmission over time .

People looking for an easy, quick, magical solution to this that makes it all go away have always been fooling themselves, right from the very beginning. That's not how any of this works. That's never been how any of this works.

It's been kind of clear almost from the very beginning that the only real answer to this is to flatten the curve and try to slow infection over a long enough time for viable treatments or vaccines to come into play, because the only other alternative is really to just let everyone get sick and wait for herd immunity to kick in. It was never going to be a case of "Well, we'll all just hide for a few weeks/months, and then when we come back out again it'll all be gone. Whee!"



Mead posted...

Im starting to think we need a full scale revolution to put a stop to some of this madness, theres just no end to it

Yes, because more disorder, disorganization, and factionalization is exactly what we need right now. That would totally fix all of our problems with no possible negative side-effects of any kind.



Mead posted...

Honestly if some people refuse to understand that their rights end when they start to diminish the rights of others, then we are going to remove some of their fundamental rights that they have grown comfortable with since theyve obviously become so entitled that they think they matter more than other people.

There is a word for this sort of thinking.

It's generally seen as being a somewhat negative word.
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Is it actually spiking or are we just testing more?

Although if it is spiking, it *might* have to do with the fact that some idiots in government allowed widescale protests where people were shoulder-to-shoulder, often without masks (although, again, I'm not sure either masks or social distancing actually make a difference any more because, if they did, the protests wouldn't have been allowed).

ParanoidObsessive posted...

To be fair, very few people said that, and they were always wrong anyway.

The intelligent people said that the virulence of the virus might go down in warmer weather, the way normal flu does, but that we had no way to know until it happened. Most of that talk usually ended with "Well, we'll see what happens come June."

But the entire scenario is incredibly complex, and it's not as if there's only one variable at play anyway, so even if the virulence of the virus DID go down in summer, other factors could still increase rate of transmission over time .

This.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Yes, because more disorder, disorganization, and factionalization is exactly what we need right now. That would totally fix all of our problems with no possible negative side-effects of any kind.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

There is a word for this sort of thinking.

It's generally seen as being a somewhat negative word.

tbh, Mead seems to look for any excuse to promote an authoritarian (well, really more the other word) revolution.

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Dragooncancer_ posted...

what's this mean for the fall

That most people will have developed antibodies and be fine?

Lokarin posted...

easily preventable disease

Easily preventable how? I hope your answer isn't "indefinite lockdowns regardless of society's ability to maintain it." Not only is that not easy, it doesnt make the disease go away.

EvilMegas posted...

Just confirms that tons of the people in the US are stubborn, self serving, assholes who don't care if someone lives or dies as long as they can have one fleeting moment of fun.

Of course you'd put full blame on individual bases and not on the large public gatherings that have been occurring.

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Veedrock- posted...

Of course you'd put full blame on individual bases and not on the large public gatherings that have been occurring.

I...what... you actually made my brain stop for like 10 seconds trying to process this idiocy.

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KnoxKorner posted...

How many people have you known who have died from coronavirus?

None. I know a few who sneezed once and swear blind they have had it.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEzfHfLaLG4

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Dragooncancer_ posted...

Remember when people were thought covid cases would go down in summer?

Considering the IC numbers have been going down here, I would expect they have in any country even remotely handling the situation well.

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I've always felt that until it becomes personal - that is a close family member gets it, people won't care or follow any precautions.

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

There is a word for this sort of thinking.

It's generally seen as being a somewhat negative word.

So be it.

Nothing is gonna fix all our problems but at this point there is so much brazen corruption and selfishness that I think we need a radical upheaval of the status quo before we can start to make this country sane again.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.


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I don't know why people would think cases would go down when people have gone out and started coming into close contact again, but I always expected tons of people to not care.
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Evil Ryu919 posted...

I've always felt that until it becomes personal - that is a close family member gets it, people won't care or follow any precautions.

That is just human nature.

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Yeah, if they dont go down in over 100 degree weather in California, or even higher in Arizona, then obviously heat doesnt kill the virus. Anyone want to jump into Death Mountain and see if thats hot enough?

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https://youtu.be/TTA2buWlNyM

Nichtcrawler X posted...

That is just human nature.

human nature in general? or nature of a specific subset of people that tend to share similar world/political views?

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Clench281 posted...

human nature in general? or nature of a specific subset of people that tend to share similar world/political views?

In general. In Dutch we refer to it as a "far from my bed show" and I suppose the closest thing in English (albeit worded inversely) "not in my backyard".

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Marcster1994 posted...

My state is going to the 100% capacity stage, right before July 4th and the governor won't be doing anymore more briefings. The whole country's given up at this point, the virus was the last thing on people's minds this month.

Today was the White Houses first Covid-19 briefing is 2
months. 2 months!! That is insane. It hasnt been on peoples minds as much because of early re-openings and the lack of White House briefings.

People are too hung up on this.

Yeah, it'll be over soon enough.

Who cares how many people it kills before that happens?

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Hey @Veedrock- ,

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, I hope you're okay.

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Prioritizing politics/religion/emotions over science/medicine/reason continues to be the biggest issue. We are in for a long few months or longer.

Also, many treated lockdown and social distancing as if the rules did not apply to themselves individually. This has been festering for a while.

Zeus posted...

although, again, I'm not sure either masks or social distancing actually make a difference any more because, if they did, the protests wouldn't have been allowed

Did you really just suggest that the decision whether or not to infringe on the First Amendment would be based purely on the best available public health recommendations?

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adjl posted...

Did you really just suggest that the decision whether or not to infringe on the First Amendment would be based purely on the best available public health recommendations?

Didn't most protesters wear masks anyway?

Mead posted...

So be it.

Nothing is gonna fix all our problems but at this point there is so much brazen corruption and selfishness that I think we need a radical upheaval of the status quo before we can start to make this country sane again.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Says the guy who refused to work before the quarantine.

You're cheering for a revolution, but we all know you'd have no part in it.

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ChaosAzeroth posted...

Didn't most protesters wear masks anyway?

The majority of people I've seen have been. Unlike the rally last weekend, when there was nary a mask to be seen among the crowd that actually cheered when cheeto complained about protesters not wearing masks, without a hint of self-awareness.

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Veedrock- posted...

That most people will have developed antibodies and be fine?

Easily preventable how? I hope your answer isn't "indefinite lockdowns regardless of society's ability to maintain it." Not only is that not easy, it doesnt make the disease go away.

Of course you'd put full blame on individual bases and not on the large public gatherings that have been occurring.

a lockdown of a month.
that's all it should've taken.
a month of no contact beyond the most basic necessities, and wearing a mask and keeping up with your hygiene when close contact is unavoidable.

but people ignoring advice, and ignoring restrictions makes it a lot more difficult.

adjl posted...

Did you really just suggest that the decision whether or not to infringe on the First Amendment would be based purely on the best available public health recommendations?

Did you really just pretend that a ban on public gatherings wouldn't or shouldn't include protests, even when churches -- which are ALSO protected under that same amendment -- were closed down (and, might I add, YOU agreed to having done)?

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thedicemaster posted...

a lockdown of a month.
that's all it should've taken.
a month of no contact beyond the most basic necessities, and wearing a mask and keeping up with your hygiene when close contact is unavoidable.

Eh, pulling it off that quickly would have been a tremendous logistical challenge. You would have needed to preemptively supply everyone in the country with enough food and other necessities for the month and suspend all rent, mortgage, and property tax payments for the period to account for people not working, to say nothing of the nightmare that would be organizing emergency home repairs (which requires a supply chain of many steps, plus professional labour). Truly essential workers (mostly utilities, medical, and emergency services) would basically need to be confined to their workplaces to avoid potentially being contaminated (and good luck dealing with those services collapsing if the virus starts making its way through those workforces). And that's not counting the military presence that would be needed to effectively keep the entire country on house arrest, nor the logistical nightmare it would be to test everyone before lifting the lockdown.

It wouldn't be impossible, no, but that would be something that would need to be planned and prepared for long in advance of the pandemic actually happening and require extensive, unquestioning cooperation from everyone involved. It's a lot less simple than simply "everyone needs to cooperate for a month."

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Krow_Incarnate posted...

Says the guy who refused to work before the quarantine.

You're cheering for a revolution, but we all know you'd have no part in it.

Im more than happy to watch and care for any dogs owned by the people that wanna do the legwork

and while I think we do need a revolution in a sense, I do still have hope that it can be done in a relatively orderly and peaceful manner, more people just need to vote and start holding their local government accountable

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