Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 303: The System Doesn't Work

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I do hope everyone hear has heard the leaked Tucker Carlson interview with Ruther Bregman that never aired.

https://youtu.be/6_nFI2Zb7qE

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Speaking of Sean Hannity, this old Daily Show video on Eric Garner came up for me yesterday, containing one of my favorite instances of Hannity dumbassery (start at 2:40):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KqDIPdCOg&t=2m40s

That video is kind of disgusting for what it is.

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KamikazePotato posted...

As someone who's had Fox News as the background radiation of most of my life, Glenn Beck was the worst of all of those, with Hannity a close second. They're all awful but Beck and Hannity are two of the most unhinged human beings I've ever seen.

I will put OReilly on that putrid throne and never look back
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vMK-p6-M5E

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Wanglicious posted...

i mean Jakyl mentioned Chris Matthews, so he's widened the pool a little more than others. plenty on MSNBC or CNN that are pretty shit though, yeah.

The problem is that no one watches them besides Maddow, who is also bad!
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Kinglicious posted...

Tucker's one of the best on cable news.
If you think he's one of the worst all you're showing is that you don't know what you're talking about.

he's on fox so he's automatically bottom of the barrel

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Corrik7 posted...

That video is kind of disgusting for what it is.

Yes, Hannity as well as many of the other Fox commentators are indeed disgusting in this video.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Ill never forget that time Wang tried to tell us that Tucker got better after he and his Crossfire cohorts got destroyed by Jon Stewart, despite the bigoted quotes in question being from many years after Crossfire

he totally did get better after Crossfire though.
and iirc the quotes he was being ragged on ranged a timespan that did include before it. some after.

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Like I honestly could not even tell you who is on MSNBC now besides her

But if you want the second worst historical liberal cable news guy after Matthews, look no further than Keith Olbermann
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MSNBC doesnt have other named people, just generic msnbc host for conservatives to complain about

also maybe Brian Williams??
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UshiromiyaEva posted...

I do hope everyone hear has heard the leaked Tucker Carlson interview with Ruther Bregman that never aired.

https://youtu.be/6_nFI2Zb7qE

rutger bregman has plenty of dumb takes (i probably know him better than most people here, given that he's dutch) but yeah, he was savage here. even fucking vlado was saying "uh yeah, tucker got destroyed there" when this video came out.

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Jakyl25 posted...

The problem is that no one watches them besides Maddow, who is also bad!

i mean that's all true there, yeah.
i'd say the basic line to divide of bad and anything else is best defined in how into war you are. and that's something you're going to find across all networks, across left and right. can escalate from there to presentation of data, amount of bad data used, amount of love towards corporations, etc to see just how much of a propagandist they are. on those elements, Tucker ends up being way better than most of his competition.

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

I do hope everyone hear has heard the leaked Tucker Carlson interview with Ruther Bregman that never aired.

https://youtu.be/6_nFI2Zb7qE

That dude was completely on point until about the 4:30 mark though I have no idea what the Davos thing was. I am guessing some kind of summit.


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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Yes, Hannity as well as many of the other Fox commentators are indeed disgusting in this video.

Talking about the entire segment from the host.

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Yeah, I know.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Ill never forget that time Wang tried to tell us that Tucker got better after he and his Crossfire cohorts got destroyed by Jon Stewart, despite the bigoted quotes in question being from many years after Crossfire

Pretty much every time the argument came up, I posted a site with an actual timeline of bigoted Tucker quotes, with clips of every single one, showing his narrative was incorrect, and I'm pretty sure he ignored it every time.

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https://twitter.com/kristindonnelly/status/1269617318734290945?s=21
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I remember checking that site early on, seeing a couple clips, finding the full versions and laughing because the clip was purposefully done that way to make him look worse.

Not that interested in responding to a glorified tumblr blog.

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Not that Powell has any credibility with Trump fans already, but maybe itll mean something to neocons
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Didn't he also endorse Clinton in 16?

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Jakyl25 posted...

Uhhh you guys are missing a few real king shitheads that outrank Beck and Carlson

why stick your neck out for the most blatant racist of Fox News

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Kinglicious posted...

I remember checking that site early on, seeing a couple clips, finding the full versions and laughing because the clip was purposefully done that way to make him look worse.

Not that interested in responding to a glorified tumblr blog.

I somehow doubt that, considering the site had the entire clips and included the context.

Your argument at the time was "That's not bigotry, that's fact" for most of the examples we gave.

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It's looking more and more like Republican politicians are shifting to their true feelings about Trump from pre-nomination 2016 as the election continues to approach.

I want to see Ted Cruz making phone calls for Biden's campaign.

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Maaaaan I saw #BookerBeatsMitch trending and thought something has actually happened.

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Wanglicious 3/30/2020 8:36:33 PM#65
fox depends on what it is. tucker's good, the rest range from "the hell was that? oh, youtube's in the background" to "what in god's name is this shit."

probably relevant wang post

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i mean taking objection to facts said would also be a thing, sure. but no, i remember it said what the context was only for that not to be it.

in other news, good news San Diego, someone came by with the gift.
https://tinyurl.com/yblfokx5

Harris said he found out he was positive on Thursday, one day after he spoke at a press conference near two burned-down banks in La Mesa, briefing the public about the protests for social justice and reform that are happening around the country.

Harris had returned from a trip to Minneapolis to visit with the family of George Floyd, the Minnesota man who was killed by a police officer on Memorial Day and whose death sparking the protests.

The whole trip, during all my travels, I took proper precautions, said Harris, 28, from an apartment in downtown San Diego where he said he will be quarantining for the next 14 days.

and so on and so on.
now he's saying he maintained distance from everyone, even at the funeral where people were hugging and close to each other.

also note this was reported at the earliest 2 days ago i think. meaning that all the protests we saw yesterday would have people infected who don't realize they're infected in massive, massive crowds of hundreds if not thousands of people, all in close proximity, all next to each other.

first guess i'm taking on this: Minneapolis has a major outbreak and people who travel in and out of it should immediately quarantine.

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Hey ass face use the flair

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Eddv posted...

Hey ass face use the flair

Is it really that hard to not click on a topic just because you see it if somebody happens to forget the flair? It's literally one topic.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

probably relevant wang post

that's.... not any different from what i'm saying here?
like if you're trying to say i've been consistent on agreeing that a lot of cable tv newscasters are bad and that he's way better than the rest of Fox's offerings, thanks, i think?

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Eddv posted...

Hey ass face use the flair

I don't even know how to do that, I don't usually make these.

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i'm totally in favor of fuck using flairs.
literally just don't click.


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I could see if it was like mafia or mercs where it's like twenty topics

But it's one

If somebody forgets the flair once, your own lack of self control isn't their problem.

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agreed that the quantity's the difference. if you've only got 1 topic series, it ain't needed.
and if anybody complains like that, even more reason to not use it~


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Wanglicious posted...

and if anybody complains like that, even more reason to not use it~

I really hate this sort of attitude
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people can use the flairs to actually find topics rather than hide them, you know.

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Yeah I don't abide by that one. The argument of just ignoring the topic is equally as valid as just adding the flair.

If I had even thought of using the flair I would have, I have just never engaged with that system.

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hell yeah defund the police let's goooo

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red13n posted...

people can use the flairs to actually find topics rather than hide them, you know.

Yeah but you can also just search "politics"

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Jakyl25 posted...

I really hate this sort of attitude

That said, yeah, I agree with this.

No reason to "stick it" to people just because they complain.

My argument is just complaining over one topic seems silly.

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Thinking about the Romney doom and gloom of 2012 and how people though him winning would be the end of the world.

Hidsight is 2020.

How dumb we all were in 2012. Remember when "binders full of women" was considered a huge gaffe? Would that even register in 2020?

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https://twitter.com/tomcottonar/status/1269720595517911041?s=21

Who wants to tell him
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I think you can add flairs after making the topic? Check post #1 details maybe?

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Grimlyn posted...

I think you can add flairs after making the topic? Check post #1 details maybe?

You definitely can (Ive forgotten the flair several times). Dont know if theres a time limit like with editing posts, though.

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Wanglicious posted...

that's.... not any different from what i'm saying here?
like if you're trying to say i've been consistent on agreeing that a lot of cable tv newscasters are bad and that he's way better than the rest of Fox's offerings, thanks, i think?

there's a difference between "tucker is one of the best ones" and "tucker is good." the latter implies that it's actually worthwhile to watch tucker. if that's not what you meant in that post, you weren't being very clear.

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StealThisSheen posted...

No reason to "stick it" to people just because they complain.

there's a difference between just "complaining" and calling someone an "ass face"

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

there's a difference between "tucker is one of the best ones" and "tucker is good." the latter implies that it's actually worthwhile to watch tucker. if that's not what you meant in that post, you weren't being very clear.

Wang is a Tucker fan

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

there's a difference between just "complaining" and calling someone an "ass face"

Oh Ed hates me personally so that's probably a factor.

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Speaking of Romney, here's a very interesting (and relevant) thread about his dad:

https://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status/1269425687309541377

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https://twitter.com/KhanStopMe/status/1269228259855785985?s=19

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-barr-george-floyd-protests-blm-face-the-nation-transcript/

Barr might be the most vile person in this administration behind Trump himself (and probably Miller but Barr's position makes his actions worse)

Claims there's no systemic racism in policing ("I don't think that the law enforcement system is systemically racist.").
Opposes any tweaks to reduce immunity in order to make it easier to go after bad cops.
Is trying to gaslight the country by lying about the Lafayette protestors, saying they weren't peaceful. ("They were not peaceful protesters. And that's one of the big lies that the-the media is-seems to be perpetuating at this point.")

Also this whole fucking exchange:

CBS

MARGARET BRENNAN: And the methods they used you think were appropriate, is that what you're saying?

BARR: When they met resistance, yes. They announced three times. They didn't move. By the way, there was no tear gas used. The tear gas was used Sunday when they had to clear H Street to allow the fire department to come in to save St. John's Church. That's when tear gas was used.

MARGARET BRENNAN: There were chemical irritants the park police has said-

BARR: No, there were not chemical irritants. Pepper spray is not a chemical irritant. It's not chemical.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Pepper spray, you're saying is what was used-

BARR: Pepper balls. Pepper balls.

Chaser: If you check Pepper Balls they advertise it as... a chemical fucking irritant.

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