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Fastbreak
06/19/20 3:09:12 PM
#151:


The riddle one seems kind of fishy to me

a lot of these accusations for others I haven't seen the stories to go with, but her story reads off.

Could still be true, and fuck him if he did that though. Just don't really buy it yet

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/19/20 3:09:48 PM
#152:


Follow up to the Matt Riddle thing:

https://twitter.com/CandyCartwright/status/1274020733505732608

I'm a lot more willing to buy into it completely now. She still opened that story in a very bizarre way though.

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TheRock1525
06/19/20 3:24:54 PM
#153:


Someone posted a DM that Riddle told someone that Candy has been stalking him for years and that he had to change his number multiple times. He said he was going to get a restraining order but "didn't want to ruin her career" (convenient) and now is getting with WWE lawyers to file a defamation lawsuit.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/19/20 3:42:16 PM
#154:


Ehhh... I think not wanting to ruin her career is actually not "convenient". When my girlfriend had assaulted me while absolutely wasted in my whole incident and the cops were there, I didn't tell them she had attacked me for 45 minutes straight specifically because I didn't want her to ruin her chances in her profession. And I severely disliked her at that point. (Hindsight, I wish I had said that. I don't know how much it would have changed if I did then.)

I can understand not wanting a person who has seriously wronged you a great deal to suffer serious life consequences.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/19/20 5:39:59 PM
#155:


Okay, I think she's lying. Or it's a half-truth. Or something. A lawyer doesn't say he's aware of her staking Riddle for 2 years without anything to back it up.

https://twitter.com/danlaw74/status/1274088379844526081?s=20

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scarletspeed7
06/19/20 5:46:52 PM
#156:


That tweet is unavailable.

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ShatteredElysium
06/19/20 5:50:00 PM
#157:


That was fast. It showed up fine for me a few mins prior to your post.
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PrivateBiscuit1
06/19/20 5:50:27 PM
#158:


...I think I know why he deleted it.

https://twitter.com/HeelByNatureYT/status/1274094142247796745?s=20

Uh, he printed out the statement on mailing labels. I've done it before at my job, but usually I notice and reprint it on regular paper. Especially for something as significant and important as this.

He is a real lawyer and I would hope a real lawyer wouldn't say all of that without anything backing it up.

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Fastbreak
06/19/20 6:08:05 PM
#159:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Follow up to the Matt Riddle thing:

https://twitter.com/CandyCartwright/status/1274020733505732608

I'm a lot more willing to buy into it completely now. She still opened that story in a very bizarre way though.

That doesn't match up with her story rhough. Or at least what she is coming forward with.. It can match up that they had a relationship before that she says that they did. But that felt like an odd thing to include to begin with.

This whole thing just feels really weird

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Eddv
06/19/20 6:38:27 PM
#160:


I think Riddle probably did it

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/19/20 6:51:04 PM
#161:


...That's definitely not a good look either. This is extremely complicated and I would hope this lawyer isn't some friend making terrible decisions under the name of his practice.

https://twitter.com/thejamiesenegal/status/1274100592009515017?s=20

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TheRock1525
06/19/20 6:55:20 PM
#162:


Yeah Matt better have some pretty good receipts to prove she was stalking him because this looks really bad.

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_SecretSquirrel
06/19/20 6:59:30 PM
#163:


The lawyer printing his statement on sticky labels is some "Phoenix Wright presenting the wrong evidence" shit.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/19/20 7:00:04 PM
#164:


Honestly, I think this is the best way that they could deal with Jimmy Havoc's situation. I'm in support of AEW's approach here.

https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1274114435867697157?s=20

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Steiner
06/19/20 7:06:14 PM
#165:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Honestly, I think this is the best way that they could deal with Jimmy Havoc's situation. I'm in support of AEW's approach here.

https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1274114435867697157?s=20


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PrivateBiscuit1
06/19/20 7:13:48 PM
#166:


I'm not. I'm in support of a dude who has mental and emotional issues and has substance abuse issues getting help, so he doesn't hurt anybody else who ends up in his life, and AEW are taking the time to fully look into things fully before making a decision.

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TheRock1525
06/19/20 7:19:07 PM
#167:


Pretty sure when you make statement you probably shouldn't wish a potential rapist "all the best."

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Strife2
06/19/20 7:21:42 PM
#168:


Unless it's in their future endeavors

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/19/20 7:22:32 PM
#169:


I probably wouldn't phrase it like that, no.

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TheRock1525
06/19/20 7:22:45 PM
#170:


Which, to their credit, they didn't do when they fired Enzo.

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Steiner
06/19/20 7:28:12 PM
#171:


No amount of drug or alcohol problems is an excuse or defense for rape. There may be similar factors at play but this statement reads like Jimmy is the victim here and its gross
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PrivateBiscuit1
06/19/20 7:33:26 PM
#172:


Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the person who accused him of rape do so anonymously? It's a lot harder to fire a guy who is accused of rape when they can't even verify the victim.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/19/20 7:39:11 PM
#173:


Gallagher was released though. I didn't even know anyone said something about him before this.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/19/20 7:50:11 PM
#175:


Right, but didn't she not name the person who was actually raped? That's my point.

This puts AEW in a lot more difficult of a spot because it's not "This person accused you of rape" it's "Your ex has a story from someone else that you raping them." It makes it a lot more difficult for them or anyone else to try to verify the claims to justify firing them.

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Steiner
06/19/20 7:50:50 PM
#176:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
It's a lot harder to fire a guy who is accused of rape when they can't even verify the victim.

i'm also not saying they should straight up fire him day 1 - the rehab is a necessary step for him. it's the wording of the message that i thought was shitty

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Steiner
06/19/20 7:51:07 PM
#177:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Right, but didn't she not name the person who was actually raped? That's my point.

This puts AEW in a lot more difficult of a spot because it's not "This person accused you of rape" it's "Your ex has a story from someone else that you raping them." It makes it a lot more difficult for them or anyone else to try to verify the claims to justify firing them.

you're correct and i deleted that post, sorry

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Steiner
06/19/20 7:52:00 PM
#178:


i'd had it confused because Rebecca had alleged of Havoc's abuse already, and it's been an extremely long month

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/19/20 7:56:21 PM
#179:


No worries man, I can barely keep up with all of the accusations being thrown out now.

I agree the wording of the message was probably not great, but I had also seen someone mention that AEW may be waiting until he's more stable to release him with the way they worded that because they were afraid he might be a suicide risk.

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StealThisSheen
06/19/20 8:00:48 PM
#180:


Something must have come of the Gallagher accusations, because WWE's first response was basically "Upon arrest, we suspend. Upon conviction, we terminate." But then they just flat out released him like half an hour ago.

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TheRock1525
06/19/20 8:02:03 PM
#181:


Jack himself may have admitted to it.

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TheRock1525
06/19/20 8:35:02 PM
#182:


Riddle just retweeted his debut on Smackdown so he must be fairly confident in his ability to exonerate himself.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/19/20 9:49:51 PM
#183:


"Bro"

https://twitter.com/danlaw74/status/1274099334712373249

Now, I can actually comment on this a bit, but okay. He has 19 years working as a lawyer, so I guess it's fair that he's an omega level boomer since not too shockingly, a lot of them are. He might not do efiling either if it's a small firm and he absolutely hates his life and wants to keep doing everything the hard way. But I feel like for something this sensitive, you'll take your time to attempt to research how to best do this.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/19/20 10:08:32 PM
#184:


Bye Dream

https://twitter.com/JoshFullerPW/status/1274147388672954371

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ZeroSignal620
06/19/20 10:14:59 PM
#185:


Yikes...

As for Smackdown, it looks like the endgame is Braun vs The Fiend at Summerslam. No way do they rush this for Extreme Rules but I've been surprised before

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ffmasterjose
06/20/20 4:32:01 AM
#186:


I thought accusations against Dream came out during his program with Cole and nothing really came of it.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/20/20 4:32:56 AM
#187:


These are new accusations with full receipts of messages.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/21/20 1:15:42 AM
#188:


Joey Ryan is done.

His response was awful and more people are coming out over him now because of it.

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Tom Bombadil
06/21/20 1:33:37 AM
#189:


I for one am shocked that penis man would be sexually inappropriate

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/21/20 2:42:13 AM
#190:


In a bit of irony, Joey Ryan just created a stable on TNA called Cancel Culture a month ago.

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Jakyl25
06/21/20 6:13:19 AM
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Strife2
06/21/20 7:07:17 AM
#192:


oof


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ZeroSignal620
06/21/20 5:42:03 PM
#193:


Taker on the final episode of The Last Ride...

I believe Im at a place now, post-Boneyard, thats like, I just won a hellacious battle against one of the best in the business. Here you are, climbing on your motorcycle and taking off. There was a lot of thought and a lot of emotion that went through my head, one of those being, Are you happy enough with that? It was a powerful moment. And you dont necessarily always get those. Man, if there was ever a perfect ending to a career, that right there was it.

If Vince was in a pinch, would I come back? I guess time would only tell there. In case of emergency, break glass, you pull out The Undertaker. I would consider it. At this point in my career, I have no desire to get back in the ring.

If Taker officially calls it a career, AJ Styles can say he wrestled in both Taker's and Savage's last matches.

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Jakyl25
06/21/20 6:01:51 PM
#194:


ZeroSignal620 posted...
If Vince was in a pinch, would I come back? I guess time would only tell there. In case of emergency, break glass, you pull out The Undertaker. I would consider it.


Yeah but you know this will happen though

It already happened before after WM 33
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PrivateBiscuit1
06/21/20 6:05:45 PM
#195:


"Hey Taker, the Saudi Prince wants to see you and Andre the Giant fight. Can you help me out, bud?"

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/22/20 2:21:25 AM
#196:


So the Joey Ryan stuff is getting worse, and worse and he may actually get criminal charges.

Jesus fucking Christ.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/22/20 3:16:22 PM
#197:


Sammy Guevara said on a podcast 4 years ago he wanted to rape Sasha Banks.

Sammy apologized privately to Sasha, they talked about it, and then he apologized on Twitter as well. Sasha Banks fans are photoshopping that he liked a Tweet that defended the remark before he issued the apology which was proven false.

I'm glad Sammy handled it like this though.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/22/20 3:20:05 PM
#198:


Also, completely unsurprising, but the Knight family in the UK apparently do a lot of really heinous stuff too.

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Fastbreak
06/22/20 4:23:43 PM
#199:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Sammy Guevara said on a podcast 4 years ago he wanted to rape Sasha Banks.

Sammy apologized privately to Sasha, they talked about it, and then he apologized on Twitter as well. Sasha Banks fans are photoshopping that he liked a Tweet that defended the remark before he issued the apology which was proven false.

I'm glad Sammy handled it like this though.


So it sounds like this was handled already, why is he being suspended now?

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Jakyl25
06/22/20 4:28:25 PM
#200:


The only thing that happened already was the quote itself

All the rest of that has happened in the last 24 hours
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Fastbreak
06/22/20 4:31:46 PM
#201:


Oh

Makes sense then

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