Board 8 > Game of the Decade: 2010-2019 Contest Analysis Crew - Part 5

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FFDragon 04/27/20 8:16:00 PM #152:	The Mana Sword posted... Oh no I cant do accuracy this checks out --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:938207639] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>The Mana Sword posted... </cite> <quote>Oh no I cant do accuracy</quote> this checks out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master Moltar 04/27/20 8:32:06 PM #153:	LeonhartFour posted... oh man the Second Chance Contest is basically an Oracle Contest time for the Crew to step up their game and dominate 'let's do this' --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ <cite>Master Moltar posted [p:938208514] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>LeonhartFour posted... </cite> <quote>oh man the Second Chance Contest is basically an Oracle Contest time for the Crew to step up their game and dominate</quote>'let's do this' </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master Moltar 04/28/20 11:20:44 AM #154:	*~Posts from the Crew Archive~* East Division: Round 4 - Match 115 (1) Super Smash Bros. Melee vs. (2) Super Smash Bros. Brawl Moltars Analysis Super Smash Bros. Melee Round 1 - 87.16% on Guitar Hero 2 Round 2 - 71.39% on Morrowind Round 3 - 69.36% on Call of Duty 4 lol cod4 Super Smash Bros. Brawl Round 1 - 83.26% on Mario Kart DS Round 2 - 76.44% on Valkyria Chronicles Round 3 - 72.90% on Pokemon DPP lol pokemon This is it. This is the most important match of the contest. This match is basically what FF7/OoT was in 2004 and Mario/Samus was back in 2005, a hotly debated match between the two strongest competitors that will most likely decide who wins this contest. This match has been debated to death, so Im going to keep it short. Past results dont mean anything here; this is simply about which game the Smash fanbase prefers more. Melee Preferred by the hardcore Older and on a more favorable system Pretty much made the series as big as it was today. Brawl Preferred by the casuals Newer and more in peoples minds Outsold and expanded the original Night match also favors Melee in my opinion. Halo/Halo 3 also points to a Melee win if you look at it as older, revolutionary game vs. newer, upgraded game. KH/KH2 points to Brawl in terms of recency, but KH2 had a different reason to win that one. KH2 was the game that made the KH series big on GameFAQs, whereas KH1 was largely ignored. In this case here, Melee was the game that did that, not Brawl. So Im going against my bracket and predicting Melee here. I doubt this is going to be close either, and yet I wont be surprised at all if Brawl wins with this exact same percent. Moltars Bracket: Brawl wins Moltars Prediction: Melee - 57% (Thats Ulti-style, baby) ____________________________________________________________________________ Lopens Analysis First of all, this is SFF match, meaning you can throw who has looked better this contest (arguable anyway) out the window. Anyway, I'm thinking that the main factor here is that the Brawl fanbase is a subset of the Melee fanbase. Unlike KH vs KH2, they were released on different systems. Further, the Wii is backwards compatible with the Gamecube. Basically if you've played Brawl there's probably a 95% chance you've played Melee. Doesn't go the other way-- some people on this site are stuck in the past, I believe that. I'm also kinda skeptical Brawl really is that strong. It hasn't really been tested yet beyond Pokemon DPP which might've been tainted by SFF and is also of dubious strength to begin with. I also can't shake this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3365 You know, Brawl only did marginally better than Shadow of the Colossus here! Yeah, I know it's not the same, MGS4 had a lot more hype back then... then again so did Brawl. In any case the vote totals were closer to a contest match than a GotY match so I'm not sure you can just up and discard it either. Could see either winning, but these factors all have me thinking Melee is the better choice-- especially in a night match where the old school vote is probably going to have more power. Lopen's prediction: Melee with 51.22% ____________________________________________________________________________ Transiences Analysis *** FINALLY * Okay, so, it's kind of hard to put reason into this match because it's totally a question of where the fanbase will fall and not one of strength. And that fanbase seems very, very split on these games. I think that Brawl has the easier, more logical argument behind it. Brawl is basically Melee+ -- more characters, more stages, more music, more features. It sold better and is more recent, something that's really important in multiplayer games like this. People almost certainly play more Brawl than Melee these days. That stuff doesn't always matter, but this does: even on this board, one where Persona beats FF7 and Okami regularly outranks Zelda, Brawl and Melee are basically split 50/50. The anti-Brawl crowd is loud and passionate while the Brawl fanbase is quiet and peaceful and even then they tie. What happens when casuals, people who don't care about balance and edgeguarding and all that stuff vote? A Brawl win seems like a fairly easy pick. The Melee argument is a lot muddier. It basically relies on the fact that Melee is older and thus more influential/respected. Melee doesn't have anything that Brawl doesn't. It's got a tighter multiplayer mode but I think a lot of people prefer Smash's chaos and items to its character balance and fairness. The pro-Melee, anti-Brawl crowd is a loud one, but also a vocal minority. Brawl is loved in most corners of the internet. Brawl even killed Melee in an IGN poll taken a couple weeks ago. But here's the thing -- Melee fans will kill people before they let Brawl win. This is a night match where it'll be a low vote intake. If Melee is losing, Melee fans will get up and do something about it. They will find friends and make them vote. They will not accept the idea of a stupid casual fighter with tripping and all that trash losing to a true fighting game like our the Super Smash Bros. Melee. It will not happen. If Brawl comes out and steamrolls it then yeah, good game Melee. But if this is anything even close? Good night, Brawl. transience's prediction: Super Smash Bros. Melee with 50.50% ____________________________________________________________________________ Leons Analysis** And now, ladies and gentlemen, for our main event. This is the match youve all been waiting for. In the blue corner, from the Fountain of Dreams, weighing in at a slim 26 characters, Super Smash Bros. MELEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Melee receives loud cheers, virtually no booing can be heard In the red corner, from Shadow Moses Island, weighing in at a hefty 35 characters, Super Smash Bros. BRAWWWWWWWWLLLLLLLLL! Brawl receives a mixture of loud boos and enthusiastic cheers, although the booers are clearly more passionate about this than the cheerers Master: Master Hand here, glad to be back on the job, even if only for one match! Work has been hard to find since that jerk Moltar pulled the plug on the Brawl Fighting League. How am I supposed to make ends meet with all these little hands to feed and no job? Crazy: Hey now, Master, dont BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU, if you catch my drift. Or you could just bite the hands youre feeding! Either one works! Master: Thanks for thatdisturbing sidebar, Crazy Hand. Anyway, this is one of the most anticipated matches weve ever seen, featuring two heavyweights in the GameFAQs Contest realm. Theyve only faced powder puffs up to this point as theyve trained for this match, and I must say, its hard to say theres a clear favorite. What about you, Crazy? Crazy: I agree. Both competitors have hardly shown any weakness at this point, and neither has sustained any major injuries that could affect their performances here tonight. What advantages do you see for Melee here, Master? --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ <cite>Master Moltar posted [p:938240295] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>~Posts from the Crew Archive~ East Division: Round 4 - Match 115 (1) Super Smash Bros. Melee vs. (2) Super Smash Bros. Brawl Moltars Analysis Super Smash Bros. Melee Round 1 - 87.16% on Guitar Hero 2 Round 2 - 71.39% on Morrowind Round 3 - 69.36% on Call of Duty 4 lol cod4 Super Smash Bros. Brawl Round 1 - 83.26% on Mario Kart DS Round 2 - 76.44% on Valkyria Chronicles Round 3 - 72.90% on Pokemon DPP lol pokemon This is it. This is the most important match of the contest. This match is basically what FF7/OoT was in 2004 and Mario/Samus was back in 2005, a hotly debated match between the two strongest competitors that will most likely decide who wins this contest. This match has been debated to death, so Im going to keep it short. Past results dont mean anything here; this is simply about which game the Smash fanbase prefers more. Melee Preferred by the hardcore Older and on a more favorable system Pretty much made the series as big as it was today. Brawl Preferred by the casuals Newer and more in peoples minds Outsold and expanded the original Night match also favors Melee in my opinion. Halo/Halo 3 also points to a Melee win if you look at it as older, revolutionary game vs. newer, upgraded game. KH/KH2 points to Brawl in terms of recency, but KH2 had a different reason to win that one. KH2 was the game that made the KH series big on GameFAQs, whereas KH1 was largely ignored. In this case here, Melee was the game that did that, not Brawl. So Im going against my bracket and predicting Melee here. I doubt this is going to be close either, and yet I wont be surprised at all if Brawl wins with this exact same percent. Moltars Bracket: Brawl wins Moltars Prediction: Melee - 57% (Thats Ulti-style, baby) ____________________________________________________________________________ Lopens Analysis First of all, this is SFF match, meaning you can throw who has looked better this contest (arguable anyway) out the window. Anyway, I'm thinking that the main factor here is that the Brawl fanbase is a subset of the Melee fanbase. Unlike KH vs KH2, they were released on different systems. Further, the Wii is backwards compatible with the Gamecube. Basically if you've played Brawl there's probably a 95% chance you've played Melee. Doesn't go the other way-- some people on this site are stuck in the past, I believe that. I'm also kinda skeptical Brawl really is that strong. It hasn't really been tested yet beyond Pokemon DPP which might've been tainted by SFF and is also of dubious strength to begin with. I also can't shake this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3365 You know, Brawl only did marginally better than Shadow of the Colossus here! Yeah, I know it's not the same, MGS4 had a lot more hype back then... then again so did Brawl. In any case the vote totals were closer to a contest match than a GotY match so I'm not sure you can just up and discard it either. Could see either winning, but these factors all have me thinking Melee is the better choice-- especially in a night match where the old school vote is probably going to have more power. Lopen's prediction: Melee with 51.22% ____________________________________________________________________________ Transiences Analysis *** FINALLY *** Okay, so, it's kind of hard to put reason into this match because it's totally a question of where the fanbase will fall and not one of strength. And that fanbase seems very, very split on these games. I think that Brawl has the easier, more logical argument behind it. Brawl is basically Melee+ -- more characters, more stages, more music, more features. It sold better and is more recent, something that's really important in multiplayer games like this. People almost certainly play more Brawl than Melee these days. That stuff doesn't always matter, but this does: even on this board, one where Persona beats FF7 and Okami regularly outranks Zelda, Brawl and Melee are basically split 50/50. The anti-Brawl crowd is loud and passionate while the Brawl fanbase is quiet and peaceful and even then they tie. What happens when casuals, people who don't care about balance and edgeguarding and all that stuff vote? A Brawl win seems like a fairly easy pick. The Melee argument is a lot muddier. It basically relies on the fact that Melee is older and thus more influential/respected. Melee doesn't have anything that Brawl doesn't. It's got a tighter multiplayer mode but I think a lot of people prefer Smash's chaos and items to its character balance and fairness. The pro-Melee, anti-Brawl crowd is a loud one, but also a vocal minority. Brawl is loved in most corners of the internet. Brawl even killed Melee in an IGN poll taken a couple weeks ago. But here's the thing -- Melee fans will kill people before they let Brawl win. This is a night match where it'll be a low vote intake. If Melee is losing, Melee fans will get up and do something about it. They will find friends and make them vote. They will not accept the idea of a stupid casual fighter with tripping and all that trash losing to a true fighting game like our the Super Smash Bros. Melee. It will not happen. If Brawl comes out and steamrolls it then yeah, good game Melee. But if this is anything even close? Good night, Brawl. transience's prediction: Super Smash Bros. Melee with 50.50% ____________________________________________________________________________ Leons Analysis And now, ladies and gentlemen, for our main event. This is the match youve all been waiting for. In the blue corner, from the Fountain of Dreams, weighing in at a slim 26 characters, Super Smash Bros. MELEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Melee receives loud cheers, virtually no booing can be heard In the red corner, from Shadow Moses Island, weighing in at a hefty 35 characters, Super Smash Bros. BRAWWWWWWWWLLLLLLLLL! Brawl receives a mixture of loud boos and enthusiastic cheers, although the booers are clearly more passionate about this than the cheerers Master: Master Hand here, glad to be back on the job, even if only for one match! Work has been hard to find since that jerk Moltar pulled the plug on the Brawl Fighting League. How am I supposed to make ends meet with all these little hands to feed and no job? Crazy: Hey now, Master, dont BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU, if you catch my drift. Or you could just bite the hands youre feeding! Either one works! Master: Thanks for thatdisturbing sidebar, Crazy Hand. Anyway, this is one of the most anticipated matches weve ever seen, featuring two heavyweights in the GameFAQs Contest realm. Theyve only faced powder puffs up to this point as theyve trained for this match, and I must say, its hard to say theres a clear favorite. What about you, Crazy? Crazy: I agree. Both competitors have hardly shown any weakness at this point, and neither has sustained any major injuries that could affect their performances here tonight. What advantages do you see for Melee here, Master?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master Moltar 04/28/20 11:20:51 AM #155:	Master: Well, Melee is clearly the sentimental favorite. The fans love it. And while it may be smaller, it has a speed and tactical advantage over Brawl. Melee certainly relies more on technical skill rather than just brute strength and hoping you can use that strength and try to land a lucky knockout blow. And while it may be older, it may be able to use that experience to its advantage. What possible disadvantages could Melee be dealing with here, Crazy? Crazy: Its possible that Melee has a bit of ring rust. Since Brawls come around, it certainly hasnt seen as much action with another big competitor in town. Some people felt like Melee was washed up and jumped ship on it. Still, it does have its faithful followers who wont ever give up on it. As for Brawl, what strengths is it working with here tonight, Master? Master: Brawl certainly has the advantage of size and youth. It relies more on flair and has a wider repertoire than its opponent, which has endeared it to the more casual followers. It may not have the depth and technical skill of Melee, but a lot of people simply just dont care. Its fans arent quite as vocal as Melees, but they may still have the silent majority here. What weaknesses do you see in Brawls game, Crazy? Crazy: While both competitors are part of the same company, many people feel that Brawls personal manager, Mr. W, hasnt been up to snuff lately and that could work against it. It could not be in as good of shape for this fight as Melee is. Brawl also has many more detractors than Melee, and its fans are simply not as rabid. The crowd support and momentum could sway into Melees favor because of this. Master: Either way, it should be a good one! Youre not going to want to miss it! Leonharts Embarrassing Confession of the Match: I miss the Brawl Fighting League! It was almost more compelling than actually playing Brawl! Leonharts Vote: Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Leonharts Prediction: Super Smash Bros. Brawl with 51.15% ____________________________________________________________________________ Kleenexs Analysis No Analysis. No Consensus. Prediction Only. Destination: Finals Kleenex's Prediction: Super Smash Bros. Melee with 52.45% ____________________________________________________________________________ Applekidjoshs Analysis This match needs no introduction. It would be the contest finals if the bracket had been organized differently, but instead we just get this incredibly important round 4 match. This thing has been discussed to death. I have Brawl in my bracket, but all the trends scream "Melee" to me so I'm going to go with it. I hope this is a good match though. Don't let me down Gamefaqs! I don't want a stupid 60/40 blowout! AKJ says Melee > Brawl with 53.33% ____________________________________________________________________________ Guests Analysis - Eeeevil Overlord Now, this is one of those interesting matches. It might not be one everyone immediately leaps to and says "wow, this match" in their build-up predictions, but don't let the lack of hype fool you here - this one could surprise. The guru's are backing Brawl with a fairly unanimous split, but Melee could fair better than some expect. Book this one to catch people out of nowhere, and be talked about for a while afterwards (or at least until Twilight Princess upsets KH2). James's Prediction: Super Smash Bros. Brawl wi hey wait that was a terrible write-up. Uh, should say, firstly I think Melee's indirectly the stronger game here. I don't see who would vote for Brawl but not Melee (whereas there is obviously a portion of people who would vote for Melee but not Brawl). And (at least pre-contest) I felt FFX fitted snugly in the gap between them, that is it coudl beat Brawl but not Melee. However, despite that I think Brawl takes it here. Obviously, this is going to be a pretty close run thing. I might end up with egg on my face, who knows, but I think the talk of a 60-40 either way is a bit absurd. The people who prefer Melee to Brawl like to claim everyone thinks that way because Brawl is unplayable, or something stupid like that. Fact is, the majority of people, if asked which game was better, would say Brawl. The number of people who care about intricate mechanics is comparitively tiny to the people who acknowledge that Brawl is the same thing, only more. Of course though, that's not enough. We've seen through this contest that the originals (or in this case, closer to the original) tend to do better in games of the same series. Nostalgia, having had more fun at the time, whatever you want (and there aren't exactly a shortage of reasons to pick, and anyone picking Melee over Brawl could easily find about 10 good reasons to justify that pick) - there's obviously going to be enough people who think Brawl's a better game but still vote Melee out of fondness for it that Brawl isn't going to be remotely comfortable in this match. In the end, what tips it to Brawl for me is the people that seemingly haven't been considered one bit amongst all this "RARGH TRIPPING" nonsense - the people (and there are some, believe it or not) that don't care about either game. Where are they voting? You could claim anti-Wii hate, but I don't think Brawl's as tainted by that as others are. This isn't Wii sports, or Wii Music, or even something like NSMBW or Mario Galaxy. This is a fanservice fighting game. In a battle between two fanservice fighting games, the game with the most fanservice should in theory win. And to the people who don't care about Nintendo or the games, Brawl has Sonic, Brawl has Snake, Melee has...Pichu? Should say at this point that I haven't seen the match pic (writing this on the 12th), but I'd love to have it be the characters unique to each game, squaring off against each other. It'd be a massacre. And wow I ended up going on for a while here. James's Vote: Super Smash Bros. Brawl James's Prediction: Super Smash Bros. Brawl with 53.70% ____________________________________________________________________________ Crew Consensus: Melee is the favorite, but Leon and the Guest are going with Brawl. --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ <cite>Master Moltar posted [p:938240303] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>Master: Well, Melee is clearly the sentimental favorite. The fans love it. And while it may be smaller, it has a speed and tactical advantage over Brawl. Melee certainly relies more on technical skill rather than just brute strength and hoping you can use that strength and try to land a lucky knockout blow. And while it may be older, it may be able to use that experience to its advantage. What possible disadvantages could Melee be dealing with here, Crazy? Crazy: Its possible that Melee has a bit of ring rust. Since Brawls come around, it certainly hasnt seen as much action with another big competitor in town. Some people felt like Melee was washed up and jumped ship on it. Still, it does have its faithful followers who wont ever give up on it. As for Brawl, what strengths is it working with here tonight, Master? Master: Brawl certainly has the advantage of size and youth. It relies more on flair and has a wider repertoire than its opponent, which has endeared it to the more casual followers. It may not have the depth and technical skill of Melee, but a lot of people simply just dont care. Its fans arent quite as vocal as Melees, but they may still have the silent majority here. What weaknesses do you see in Brawls game, Crazy? Crazy: While both competitors are part of the same company, many people feel that Brawls personal manager, Mr. W, hasnt been up to snuff lately and that could work against it. It could not be in as good of shape for this fight as Melee is. Brawl also has many more detractors than Melee, and its fans are simply not as rabid. The crowd support and momentum could sway into Melees favor because of this. Master: Either way, it should be a good one! Youre not going to want to miss it! Leonharts Embarrassing Confession of the Match: I miss the Brawl Fighting League! It was almost more compelling than actually playing Brawl! Leonharts Vote: Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Leonharts Prediction: Super Smash Bros. Brawl with 51.15% ____________________________________________________________________________ Kleenexs Analysis No Analysis. No Consensus. Prediction Only. Destination: Finals Kleenex's Prediction: Super Smash Bros. Melee with 52.45% ____________________________________________________________________________ Applekidjoshs Analysis This match needs no introduction. It would be the contest finals if the bracket had been organized differently, but instead we just get this incredibly important round 4 match. This thing has been discussed to death. I have Brawl in my bracket, but all the trends scream "Melee" to me so I'm going to go with it. I hope this is a good match though. Don't let me down Gamefaqs! I don't want a stupid 60/40 blowout! AKJ says Melee > Brawl with 53.33% ____________________________________________________________________________ Guests Analysis - Eeeevil Overlord Now, this is one of those interesting matches. It might not be one everyone immediately leaps to and says "wow, this match" in their build-up predictions, but don't let the lack of hype fool you here - this one could surprise. The guru's are backing Brawl with a fairly unanimous split, but Melee could fair better than some expect. Book this one to catch people out of nowhere, and be talked about for a while afterwards (or at least until Twilight Princess upsets KH2). James's Prediction: Super Smash Bros. Brawl wi hey wait that was a terrible write-up. Uh, should say, firstly I think Melee's indirectly the stronger game here. I don't see who would vote for Brawl but not Melee (whereas there is obviously a portion of people who would vote for Melee but not Brawl). And (at least pre-contest) I felt FFX fitted snugly in the gap between them, that is it coudl beat Brawl but not Melee. However, despite that I think Brawl takes it here. Obviously, this is going to be a pretty close run thing. I might end up with egg on my face, who knows, but I think the talk of a 60-40 either way is a bit absurd. The people who prefer Melee to Brawl like to claim everyone thinks that way because Brawl is unplayable, or something stupid like that. Fact is, the majority of people, if asked which game was better, would say Brawl. The number of people who care about intricate mechanics is comparitively tiny to the people who acknowledge that Brawl is the same thing, only more. Of course though, that's not enough. We've seen through this contest that the originals (or in this case, closer to the original) tend to do better in games of the same series. Nostalgia, having had more fun at the time, whatever you want (and there aren't exactly a shortage of reasons to pick, and anyone picking Melee over Brawl could easily find about 10 good reasons to justify that pick) - there's obviously going to be enough people who think Brawl's a better game but still vote Melee out of fondness for it that Brawl isn't going to be remotely comfortable in this match. In the end, what tips it to Brawl for me is the people that seemingly haven't been considered one bit amongst all this "RARGH TRIPPING" nonsense - the people (and there are some, believe it or not) that don't care about either game. Where are they voting? You could claim anti-Wii hate, but I don't think Brawl's as tainted by that as others are. This isn't Wii sports, or Wii Music, or even something like NSMBW or Mario Galaxy. This is a fanservice fighting game. In a battle between two fanservice fighting games, the game with the most fanservice should in theory win. And to the people who don't care about Nintendo or the games, Brawl has Sonic, Brawl has Snake, Melee has...Pichu? Should say at this point that I haven't seen the match pic (writing this on the 12th), but I'd love to have it be the characters unique to each game, squaring off against each other. It'd be a massacre. And wow I ended up going on for a while here. James's Vote: Super Smash Bros. Brawl James's Prediction: Super Smash Bros. Brawl with 53.70% ____________________________________________________________________________ Crew Consensus: Melee is the favorite, but Leon and the Guest are going with Brawl.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transience 04/28/20 11:25:19 AM #156:	augh I had the right logic for 2015, but not 2010 --- xyzzy <cite>transience posted [p:938240519] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>augh I had the right logic for 2015, but not 2010 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 04/28/20 11:35:04 AM #157:	Wow I was really the only regular to take Brawl? --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:938241002] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>Wow I was really the only regular to take Brawl? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 04/28/20 11:39:39 AM #158:	a rare misfire --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:938241209] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>a rare misfire </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Safer_777 04/28/20 11:48:14 AM #159:	Times c hange. --- So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing? Nice job Hylian Knight 3, you were better than me in the Guru Contest! <cite>Safer_777 posted [p:938241647] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>Times c hange. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 04/28/20 11:50:10 AM #160:	And I really used to be a lot more creative with these things! --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:938241748] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>And I really used to be a lot more creative with these things! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 04/28/20 11:52:59 AM #161:	And yet Kleenex was the most creative of you all in like four bars. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:938241887] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>And yet Kleenex was the most creative of you all in like four bars. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 04/28/20 11:58:24 AM #162:	never forget never forgive --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:938242180] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>never forget never forgive </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 04/28/20 12:01:01 PM #163:	But yeah I can only imagine what Melee/Brawl looks like in 2015 with Twitter and Tumblr. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:938242309] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>But yeah I can only imagine what Melee/Brawl looks like in 2015 with Twitter and Tumblr. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 04/28/20 12:19:12 PM #164:	FFDragon posted... And yet Kleenex was the most creative of you all in like four bars. let me tell you I used to have some good writeups --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:938243209] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>FFDragon posted... </cite> <quote>And yet Kleenex was the most creative of you all in like four bars.</quote> let me tell you I used to have some good writeups </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hylianknight3 04/28/20 3:06:25 PM #165:	That Master / Crazy Hand color commentary is magnifique. --- Kampfmaschine Advokaiser punched my lights out in the 2018 Guru. My bracket was soft... just like my heart! <cite>hylianknight3 posted [p:938252022] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>That Master / Crazy Hand color commentary is magnifique. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperNiceDog 04/28/20 4:22:40 PM #166:	During the break, can we get a list of the top 5 write-ups during the first 70% of the contest? --- SuperNiceChao about to win the Oracle 2020! TsunamiXXVIII and me will destroy all you noobs <cite>SuperNiceDog posted [p:938256555] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>During the break, can we get a list of the top 5 write-ups during the first 70% of the contest? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 04/28/20 4:31:06 PM #167:	hylianknight3 posted... That Master / Crazy Hand color commentary is magnifique. Oh hey, thanks! Maybe I could try to work up some stuff like that again. I've got a week to figure something out! --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:938257073] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>hylianknight3 posted... </cite> <quote>That Master / Crazy Hand color commentary is magnifique.</quote> Oh hey, thanks! Maybe I could try to work up some stuff like that again. I've got a week to figure something out! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master Moltar 04/29/20 11:04:31 AM #168:	*~Posts from the Crew Archive~* Mushroom Division: Round 3 - Match 27 (1)Super Mario Bros. vs. (2)Super Smash Bros. Moltars Analysis Super Mario Bros. - Featuring Mario, Luigi, Toad, Peach, Yoshi and Bowser! Round 1 92.21% vs. Madden NFL (7.79%) Round 2 81.13% vs. Warcraft (18.87%) SMB destroys Warcraft in Round 2 with over 80% of the vote. Super Smash Bros. - Featuring Mario, Luigi, ToadPeach.Yoshi..and.Bowser?! Round 1 76.37% vs. Dragon Quest (23.63%) Round 2 57.66% vs. Sonic (42.34%) SSB wins easily in a heavily debated match against Sonic. The Road to an all 1 seed Final Four grows closer as Super Mario Bros. goes up against Super Smash Bros. If this match doesnt just scream SFF, I dont know what does. Hell, both series have Super and Bros. in the titles! Anyway, Super Mario Bros. strongest game, SMB3, is stronger than SSB:M. SMB is also a much larger series, and while that didnt help Sonic, SMB has plenty of strong games to pull from. Add on to the fact that SMB is already looking to SFF SSB and you have got yourselves a blowout. Shame too, because SSB could potentially be the 4th strongest series in the Contest. Moltars Bracket Says: Super Mario Bros. will win. Moltars Prediction is: SMB: 76% - SSB: 24% ____________________________________________________________________________ Ultis Analysis Most boring late-round contest match in a LONG **ing time, though I'd love to know what warped logic people have for thinking SSB will win. This has SFF written all over it, though SSB's insane fanbase might keep it over 30%. Or not. Prediction: Mario with 79.99% ____________________________________________________________________________ Souls Analysis SMB defeated Warcraft with 81.13% SSB defeated Sonic with 57.66% Same Fanbase Factor. The killer of many potential interesting matches. The killer of stats. It's not a pretty sight to see. And look what we have here? Mario Vs. a Mario spinoff. This match was hyped to go either way, but really, think about this. It's Mario Vs. Mario spinoff. Mario will come out on top, and with the added SFF, will look stronger then the series actually is. The question on a lot of people's mind is what will be the fourth strongest series in this contest? FF, LoZ and SMB have all cemented themselves as the best of the best, but which series would follow them? As of right now, SSB and Metal Gear are the favorites for that elusive fourth spot. Sadly, SSB has to deal with SFF in this round, so Metal Gear will look like the clear winner after all is said and done. Does that mean MG could beat SSB? Sadly, we might never know... My prediction: Super Mario Bros. wins with 75.01% of the vote ____________________________________________________________________________ Leons Analysis** First of all, well done, Super Smash Brothers. Well done. The match against Sonic was very impressive, I must say. However, your road ends here. That much is obvious. After all, Super Mario Brothers scored over 81% on Warcraft, a series that would destroy Dragon Quest head-to-head, which Super Smash Brothers beat by less. With that said, I dont think Super Mario Brothers will get the massive SFF that some people are predicting. I think SSBM could hold its own against Mario 3 and perhaps beat the rest of the series. But really, this is a boring match to analyze seriously. With that said: J.R.: MARIO PINS SONIC CLEANLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RING TO CAP OFF A DOMINANT PERFORMANCE BY SUPER SMASH BROTHERS IN THIS MATCH! As Mario celebrates with Link and Samus, the name Super Smash Brothers appears on the Jumbotron screen declaring the winner. However, as they celebrate, a familiar-looking Koopa peaks out from under the ring WAIT, BOWSER IS CRAWLING OUT FROM UNDER THE RING! WHAT IS HE DOING?! OH MY! HE JUST ATTACKED SAMUS FROM BEHIND! WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON HERE?! IS HE BETRAYING THE SMASH BROTHERS?! Link scurries out of the ring and grabs a steel chair. He slides back into the ring, looking to take on Bowser HANG ON, LINK HAS GRABBED A STEEL CHAIR AND HES COMING BACK TO THE RING! MARIO IS ASKING FOR THE CHAIR! LOOKS LIKE HE WANTS TO SETTLE THIS HIMSELF! Mario takes the steel chair from Link and stares down Bowser menacingly. Then suddenly, Mario turns around and slams Link over the head with the chair NO! THIS CANT BE HAPPENING! MARIO JUST KNOCKED OUT LINK WITH THE STEEL CHAIR! THE CARNAGE! THE MAYHEM! JUST WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?! WHY WOULD MARIO TURN HEEL AND JOIN BOWSER?! WHY MARIO WHY?! Mario grabs the microphone Mario: Ive-a been a-carrying Super Smash Brothers on my back for too long! Mama mia! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND ITS-A TIME FOR A CHANGE! Hit it! The word Smash is erased from the Jumbotron screen and is replaced with the word Mario Mario: Super Mario Brothers with 74.26% says I just whipped Yeah, you know the rest. ____________________________________________________________________________ HMs Analysis Super Mario Bros. Previous Matches : Super Mario Bros 92.21% -- 108,723 Madden NFL 7.79% -- 9,186 Super Mario Bros. 81.13% -- 97,775 WarCraft 18.87% -- 22,741 Super Smash Bros. Previous Matches : Super Smash Bros 76.37% -- 90,789 Dragon Quest 23.63% -- 28,092 Sonic the Hedgehog 42.34% -- 53,423 Super Smash Bros. 57.66% -- 72,755 Can you say Same Fanbase Factor? I can! This will probably be one of the larger SFF matches we see in the contest because this just screams fanbase overlap. Both hugely popular Nintendo series and one of them is among the untouchable Big Three. Yeah, that has a recipe for destruction. Fortunately, the better of the two series will be winning this affair!! Super Mario Bros. in the last round put on a rather shocking performance to me. When it started off the match with ~85% of the vote, I began to speculate that its chances at winning the entire contest might be looking good just because of the similar performance it was having when compared to Final Fantasy. Eventually, though, that percentage came down to something a bit more realistic, but still a bit above my expectations. SMB managing to quadruple Warcraft speaks well of its own strength something SSB has to fear, even before SFF enters the equation. Super Smash Bros. well, it shocked the crap out of me. I did not expect it to win so easily against Sonic, but it was over the moment it started. It was an impressive win, even with any potential SFF between the two, but nothing that even begins to put this match into question. This began to beg the question about whether or not SSB could really end up as the fourth strongest series in the contest, even about Metal Gear, but I clearly have my own doubts about that. --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ <cite>Master Moltar posted [p:938301232] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>~Posts from the Crew Archive~ Mushroom Division: Round 3 - Match 27 (1)Super Mario Bros. vs. (2)Super Smash Bros. Moltars Analysis Super Mario Bros. - Featuring Mario, Luigi, Toad, Peach, Yoshi and Bowser! Round 1 92.21% vs. Madden NFL (7.79%) Round 2 81.13% vs. Warcraft (18.87%) SMB destroys Warcraft in Round 2 with over 80% of the vote. Super Smash Bros. - Featuring Mario, Luigi, ToadPeach.Yoshi..and.Bowser?! Round 1 76.37% vs. Dragon Quest (23.63%) Round 2 57.66% vs. Sonic (42.34%) SSB wins easily in a heavily debated match against Sonic. The Road to an all 1 seed Final Four grows closer as Super Mario Bros. goes up against Super Smash Bros. If this match doesnt just scream SFF, I dont know what does. Hell, both series have Super and Bros. in the titles! Anyway, Super Mario Bros. strongest game, SMB3, is stronger than SSB:M. SMB is also a much larger series, and while that didnt help Sonic, SMB has plenty of strong games to pull from. Add on to the fact that SMB is already looking to SFF SSB and you have got yourselves a blowout. Shame too, because SSB could potentially be the 4th strongest series in the Contest. Moltars Bracket Says: Super Mario Bros. will win. Moltars Prediction is: SMB: 76% - SSB: 24% ____________________________________________________________________________ Ultis Analysis Most boring late-round contest match in a LONG ***ing time, though I'd love to know what warped logic people have for thinking SSB will win. This has SFF written all over it, though SSB's insane fanbase might keep it over 30%. Or not. Prediction: Mario with 79.99% ____________________________________________________________________________ Souls Analysis SMB defeated Warcraft with 81.13% SSB defeated Sonic with 57.66% Same Fanbase Factor. The killer of many potential interesting matches. The killer of stats. It's not a pretty sight to see. And look what we have here? Mario Vs. a Mario spinoff. This match was hyped to go either way, but really, think about this. It's Mario Vs. Mario spinoff. Mario will come out on top, and with the added SFF, will look stronger then the series actually is. The question on a lot of people's mind is what will be the fourth strongest series in this contest? FF, LoZ and SMB have all cemented themselves as the best of the best, but which series would follow them? As of right now, SSB and Metal Gear are the favorites for that elusive fourth spot. Sadly, SSB has to deal with SFF in this round, so Metal Gear will look like the clear winner after all is said and done. Does that mean MG could beat SSB? Sadly, we might never know... My prediction: Super Mario Bros. wins with 75.01% of the vote ____________________________________________________________________________ Leons Analysis First of all, well done, Super Smash Brothers. Well done. The match against Sonic was very impressive, I must say. However, your road ends here. That much is obvious. After all, Super Mario Brothers scored over 81% on Warcraft, a series that would destroy Dragon Quest head-to-head, which Super Smash Brothers beat by less. With that said, I dont think Super Mario Brothers will get the massive SFF that some people are predicting. I think SSBM could hold its own against Mario 3 and perhaps beat the rest of the series. But really, this is a boring match to analyze seriously. With that said: J.R.: MARIO PINS SONIC CLEANLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RING TO CAP OFF A DOMINANT PERFORMANCE BY SUPER SMASH BROTHERS IN THIS MATCH! As Mario celebrates with Link and Samus, the name Super Smash Brothers appears on the Jumbotron screen declaring the winner. However, as they celebrate, a familiar-looking Koopa peaks out from under the ring* WAIT, BOWSER IS CRAWLING OUT FROM UNDER THE RING! WHAT IS HE DOING?! OH MY! HE JUST ATTACKED SAMUS FROM BEHIND! WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON HERE?! IS HE BETRAYING THE SMASH BROTHERS?! Link scurries out of the ring and grabs a steel chair. He slides back into the ring, looking to take on Bowser HANG ON, LINK HAS GRABBED A STEEL CHAIR AND HES COMING BACK TO THE RING! MARIO IS ASKING FOR THE CHAIR! LOOKS LIKE HE WANTS TO SETTLE THIS HIMSELF! Mario takes the steel chair from Link and stares down Bowser menacingly. Then suddenly, Mario turns around and slams Link over the head with the chair NO! THIS CANT BE HAPPENING! MARIO JUST KNOCKED OUT LINK WITH THE STEEL CHAIR! THE CARNAGE! THE MAYHEM! JUST WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?! WHY WOULD MARIO TURN HEEL AND JOIN BOWSER?! WHY MARIO WHY?! Mario grabs the microphone Mario: Ive-a been a-carrying Super Smash Brothers on my back for too long! Mama mia! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND ITS-A TIME FOR A CHANGE! Hit it! The word Smash is erased from the Jumbotron screen and is replaced with the word Mario Mario: Super Mario Brothers with 74.26% says I just whipped Yeah, you know the rest. ____________________________________________________________________________ HMs Analysis Super Mario Bros. Previous Matches : Super Mario Bros 92.21% -- 108,723 Madden NFL 7.79% -- 9,186 Super Mario Bros. 81.13% -- 97,775 WarCraft 18.87% -- 22,741 Super Smash Bros. Previous Matches : Super Smash Bros 76.37% -- 90,789 Dragon Quest 23.63% -- 28,092 Sonic the Hedgehog 42.34% -- 53,423 Super Smash Bros. 57.66% -- 72,755 Can you say Same Fanbase Factor? I can! This will probably be one of the larger SFF matches we see in the contest because this just screams fanbase overlap. Both hugely popular Nintendo series and one of them is among the untouchable Big Three. Yeah, that has a recipe for destruction. Fortunately, the better of the two series will be winning this affair!! Super Mario Bros. in the last round put on a rather shocking performance to me. When it started off the match with ~85% of the vote, I began to speculate that its chances at winning the entire contest might be looking good just because of the similar performance it was having when compared to Final Fantasy. Eventually, though, that percentage came down to something a bit more realistic, but still a bit above my expectations. SMB managing to quadruple Warcraft speaks well of its own strength something SSB has to fear, even before SFF enters the equation. Super Smash Bros. well, it shocked the crap out of me. I did not expect it to win so easily against Sonic, but it was over the moment it started. It was an impressive win, even with any potential SFF between the two, but nothing that even begins to put this match into question. This began to beg the question about whether or not SSB could really end up as the fourth strongest series in the contest, even about Metal Gear, but I clearly have my own doubts about that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master Moltar 04/29/20 11:04:36 AM #169:	Unfortunately, we were once again denied a Mario/Sonic showdown, instead getting this SFF fest between two popular Nintendo series. The biggest question about this match is just how high SMB can get and if just how much SFF it is going to be getting. Another unfortunate aspect of this is we get no good read on this division whatsoever thanks to SFF. It is probably not like well need it, even if we had another contest because so much would likely change between all of the series in this contest, but yeah. This match will likely be boring, and likely devastating to the few people who think SSB stands a chance at getting rSFF for the win. SMB gets one last dominate performance before facing the real beast of this contest in Final Fantasy. Itll finally get its competition shortly Aitch Emms Bracket : Super Mario Bros. Aitch Emms Prediction : Super Mario Bros. 75% Super Smash Bros. 25% Aitch Emms Vote : Super Mario Bros. ____________________________________________________________________________ Yoblazers Analysis Like Zelda vs. Metroid, this is a same-company match with an obvious result; the trick is trying to determine just how bad the beatdown will be. When it comes to Nintendo's series, this contest has taught me one central lesson: Super Smash Bros. is, unquestionably, the third strongest, ranking ahead of Metroid, Mario Kart, Pokemon, Kirby, and all the other runts. Now, we all know Zelda is stronger than Mario, and I predicted about 80/20 for Zelda/Metroid, so I think this one will be closer right off the bat. Also, unlike any game in the Metroid arsenal, I think Super Smash Bros.' popularity and console carrying ability over the past five years makes it very SFF-resistant. Will it still get SFF'D by something as beastly as Super Mario Bros.? Sure. Will it be as bad as Metroid? No way. Super Mario Bros. + Several games from which to draw popularity + Most of those games are pretty damn strong in their own right + Most recognized series in gaming history + Broke Warcraft over its knee - Nothing Super Smash Bros. + A beast of a title in SSBM + SSB, while somewhat forgotten, also has a large fanbase and fantastic sales + Great performance against Sonic - Only two games - The Nintendo fanbase won't side with it here My prediction: Super Mario Bros. def. Super Smash Bros. (75-25) ____________________________________________________________________________ Mnms Analysis Battle Music: Bowser Boss Battle (Super Mario World) I'll try to make this short. Super Smash Bros. is going to have a hell of a tough time with this matchup. In fact, it is going to get killed. Super Smash Bros. has shown that it indeed carries plenty of strength on this site. There's just one thing though... It never has had to go up against another Nintendo entity in this contest, so there's no indication on how it would hold up in a SFF match. This is a hell of a way to find out, as this is probably one of the worst matchups SSB can face. Basically EVERY Super Smash Bros. fan is a Mario Bros. fan, and it will show in this matchup. I also want to go and state how much I respect the Super Mario Bros. series in this contest. It has shown zero signs of weakness in this contest, and that will hold up for this match also. Put it this way, I think Super Mario Bros. beats down Super Smash Bros. at least 70-30 before SFF, so once the SFF is introduced, it will probably get ugly. Sure, SSB will get some vocal support, but that won't hold up against the legions of its fans that are bigger Mario Bros. fans. Seeing how Final Fantasy destroyed Mega Man (which handled Mario Kart), I think SMB will give SSB the same kind of beating, if not worse. The match pic is the nail in the coffin. I also want to go on record and say that the match I am anticipating the most from this point on is not LoZ/FF, but SMB/FF. I may be in the minority in thinking that SMB will give FF a decent fight (40%+). Plus, that match pretty much indicates what happens in LoZ/FF. Anyways, I'm looking for a SMB blowout! Bracket: SMB Vote: SMB Prediction: Super Mario Bros. with 80% ____________________________________________________________________________ HaRRichs Analysis Predicted winner: Super Mario Bros. Earlier this contest: ---SMB - 92.21% on Madden NFL, 81.13% on Warcraft ---SSB - 76.37% on Dragon Quest, 57.66% on Sonic Top 100 List comparison: ---SMB3 - #5, SM64 - #13, SMB - #22, SMW - #23, SMW2:YI - #82 ---SSBM - #6 Best Game Ever x-stat comparison: ---SMB3 - 39.9% (8 Division champion), SMW - 34.24%, SM64 - 21.93% (SFF'd by LoZ:OoT, has since had SM64DS released) ---SSBM - 37.57% (128 Division champion) SMB has done nothing but impress thus far, yet the same can be said for SSB...just not to the same degree. Furthermore, this will be an SFF match that could possibly test the age-groups voting here. Although I would be very tempted to take SSBM > SMB3, practically any Nintendo fan who has been playing games since the NES (or earlier) will vote for SMB here. I'd think the large majority of the Genesis/SNES-initiated will also vote for SMB. Gamers who started with the PSX/N64 will be torn, though I think they'd side with SSB, and gamers who start with this generation are almost-certainly siding with SSB...but think about how many more voters here started before games went 3D, where Mario will own SSB, then think about how many gamers started with the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube, where SSB will break SMB -- the 32-64 bit era won't make much of a difference here, I figure... ...yeah, so SMB has the strong advantage there. From there, let's just break it down and compare system releases. Yes, SSBM owns SMS on the Gamecube, but SSB would lose (probably somewhat-respectably) to SM64. From there, pile all of Mario's other games in there, and SSB loses big again. So then let's just match games: SMB3 would probably beat SSBM in a close one, SM64 would beat SSB...then pile the rest again, and SSB just can't catch a break. Expect it to be bad, though I'm goin' to predict that an SFF'd SSB would still outdo Warcraft. At least the right Super _____ Bros. series wins..... Super Mario Bros. wins with 80.12% ____________________________________________________________________________ Lopens Analysis Some people thought SSB would be taking this. Well, I'm here to tell you that's just foolishness. SSBM is popular here, but you know what? Signs point to Super Mario Brothers 3 being more popular here. And you know what? I don't think the N64 game adds enough to even offset that. You put Super Mario Brothers 3 vs. Super Smash Brothers (the whole series) here, and I'm taking Super Mario Brothers 3. Kinda sad if that's true, because that means one Mario game beats every Sonic game 57-43%+. Some rivalry, huh? Come on you like tangents. And now, here comes another match where the almighty Mario shows his power by SFFing anything. He hardly even has to stretch here, though. He can see SSB's Nintendo shaped cardboard box parked on his freshly cut grass. Needless to say, he's not pleased. Is Final Fantasy so screwed here? Lopen's Prediction: Super Mario Brothers with 77.77% --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ <cite>Master Moltar posted [p:938301234] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>Unfortunately, we were once again denied a Mario/Sonic showdown, instead getting this SFF fest between two popular Nintendo series. The biggest question about this match is just how high SMB can get and if just how much SFF it is going to be getting. Another unfortunate aspect of this is we get no good read on this division whatsoever thanks to SFF. It is probably not like well need it, even if we had another contest because so much would likely change between all of the series in this contest, but yeah. This match will likely be boring, and likely devastating to the few people who think SSB stands a chance at getting rSFF for the win. SMB gets one last dominate performance before facing the real beast of this contest in Final Fantasy. Itll finally get its competition shortly Aitch Emms Bracket : Super Mario Bros. Aitch Emms Prediction : Super Mario Bros. 75% Super Smash Bros. 25% Aitch Emms Vote : Super Mario Bros. ____________________________________________________________________________ Yoblazers Analysis Like Zelda vs. Metroid, this is a same-company match with an obvious result; the trick is trying to determine just how bad the beatdown will be. When it comes to Nintendo's series, this contest has taught me one central lesson: Super Smash Bros. is, unquestionably, the third strongest, ranking ahead of Metroid, Mario Kart, Pokemon, Kirby, and all the other runts. Now, we all know Zelda is stronger than Mario, and I predicted about 80/20 for Zelda/Metroid, so I think this one will be closer right off the bat. Also, unlike any game in the Metroid arsenal, I think Super Smash Bros.' popularity and console carrying ability over the past five years makes it very SFF-resistant. Will it still get SFF'D by something as beastly as Super Mario Bros.? Sure. Will it be as bad as Metroid? No way. Super Mario Bros. + Several games from which to draw popularity + Most of those games are pretty damn strong in their own right + Most recognized series in gaming history + Broke Warcraft over its knee - Nothing Super Smash Bros. + A beast of a title in SSBM + SSB, while somewhat forgotten, also has a large fanbase and fantastic sales + Great performance against Sonic - Only two games - The Nintendo fanbase won't side with it here My prediction: Super Mario Bros. def. Super Smash Bros. (75-25) ____________________________________________________________________________ Mnms Analysis Battle Music: Bowser Boss Battle (Super Mario World) I'll try to make this short. Super Smash Bros. is going to have a hell of a tough time with this matchup. In fact, it is going to get killed. Super Smash Bros. has shown that it indeed carries plenty of strength on this site. There's just one thing though... It never has had to go up against another Nintendo entity in this contest, so there's no indication on how it would hold up in a SFF match. This is a hell of a way to find out, as this is probably one of the worst matchups SSB can face. Basically EVERY Super Smash Bros. fan is a Mario Bros. fan, and it will show in this matchup. I also want to go and state how much I respect the Super Mario Bros. series in this contest. It has shown zero signs of weakness in this contest, and that will hold up for this match also. Put it this way, I think Super Mario Bros. beats down Super Smash Bros. at least 70-30 before SFF, so once the SFF is introduced, it will probably get ugly. Sure, SSB will get some vocal support, but that won't hold up against the legions of its fans that are bigger Mario Bros. fans. Seeing how Final Fantasy destroyed Mega Man (which handled Mario Kart), I think SMB will give SSB the same kind of beating, if not worse. The match pic is the nail in the coffin. I also want to go on record and say that the match I am anticipating the most from this point on is not LoZ/FF, but SMB/FF. I may be in the minority in thinking that SMB will give FF a decent fight (40%+). Plus, that match pretty much indicates what happens in LoZ/FF. Anyways, I'm looking for a SMB blowout! Bracket: SMB Vote: SMB Prediction: Super Mario Bros. with 80% ____________________________________________________________________________ HaRRichs Analysis Predicted winner: Super Mario Bros. Earlier this contest: ---SMB - 92.21% on Madden NFL, 81.13% on Warcraft ---SSB - 76.37% on Dragon Quest, 57.66% on Sonic Top 100 List comparison: ---SMB3 - #5, SM64 - #13, SMB - #22, SMW - #23, SMW2:YI - #82 ---SSBM - #6 Best Game Ever x-stat comparison: ---SMB3 - 39.9% (8 Division champion), SMW - 34.24%, SM64 - 21.93% (SFF'd by LoZ:OoT, has since had SM64DS released) ---SSBM - 37.57% (128 Division champion) SMB has done nothing but impress thus far, yet the same can be said for SSB...just not to the same degree. Furthermore, this will be an SFF match that could possibly test the age-groups voting here. Although I would be very tempted to take SSBM > SMB3, practically any Nintendo fan who has been playing games since the NES (or earlier) will vote for SMB here. I'd think the large majority of the Genesis/SNES-initiated will also vote for SMB. Gamers who started with the PSX/N64 will be torn, though I think they'd side with SSB, and gamers who start with this generation are almost-certainly siding with SSB...but think about how many more voters here started before games went 3D, where Mario will own SSB, then think about how many gamers started with the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube, where SSB will break SMB -- the 32-64 bit era won't make much of a difference here, I figure... ...yeah, so SMB has the strong advantage there. From there, let's just break it down and compare system releases. Yes, SSBM owns SMS on the Gamecube, but SSB would lose (probably somewhat-respectably) to SM64. From there, pile all of Mario's other games in there, and SSB loses big again. So then let's just match games: SMB3 would probably beat SSBM in a close one, SM64 would beat SSB...then pile the rest again, and SSB just can't catch a break. Expect it to be bad, though I'm goin' to predict that an SFF'd SSB would still outdo Warcraft. At least the right Super _____ Bros. series wins..... Super Mario Bros. wins with 80.12% ____________________________________________________________________________ Lopens Analysis Some people thought SSB would be taking this. Well, I'm here to tell you that's just foolishness. SSBM is popular here, but you know what? Signs point to Super Mario Brothers 3 being more popular here. And you know what? I don't think the N64 game adds enough to even offset that. You put Super Mario Brothers 3 vs. Super Smash Brothers (the whole series) here, and I'm taking Super Mario Brothers 3. Kinda sad if that's true, because that means one Mario game beats every Sonic game 57-43%+. Some rivalry, huh? Come on you like tangents. And now, here comes another match where the almighty Mario shows his power by SFFing anything. He hardly even has to stretch here, though. He can see SSB's Nintendo shaped cardboard box parked on his freshly cut grass. Needless to say, he's not pleased. Is Final Fantasy so screwed here? Lopen's Prediction: Super Mario Brothers with 77.77%</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 04/29/20 11:08:11 AM #170:	Looks like I got the point! Also I forgot how big the Crew used to be! --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:938301416] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>Looks like I got the point! Also I forgot how big the Crew used to be! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master Moltar 04/29/20 11:25:09 AM #171:	yeah 9 people geez thats a lot of words --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ <cite>Master Moltar posted [p:938302226] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>yeah 9 people geez thats a lot of words</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Safer_777 04/29/20 12:03:52 PM #172:	More opinions=more fun? --- So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing? Nice job Hylian Knight 3, you were better than me in the Guru Contest! <cite>Safer_777 posted [p:938304115] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>More opinions=more fun? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 04/29/20 12:05:47 PM #173:	When does the contest actually start up again? Need to know when I need to start writing. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:938304201] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>When does the contest actually start up again? Need to know when I need to start writing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 04/29/20 12:09:27 PM #174:	May 4 8 PM Eastern --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:938304389] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>May 4 8 PM Eastern </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 04/29/20 12:25:58 PM #175:	Looking back at that writeup why didn't I go with 73.16? --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:938305185] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>Looking back at that writeup why didn't I go with 73.16? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Safer_777 04/29/20 1:35:43 PM #176:	*SSB wins easily in a heavily debated match against Sonic.* Things seems to have change a bit, right? --- So why we exist? What happens when we stop existing? Nice job Hylian Knight 3, you were better than me in the Guru Contest! <cite>Safer_777 posted [p:938309123] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>SSB wins easily in a heavily debated match against Sonic. Things seems to have change a bit, right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 04/29/20 1:46:52 PM #177:	Safer_777 posted... *SSB wins easily in a heavily debated match against Sonic.* Things seems to have change a bit, right? Smash was the favorite but there was definitely a debate over Sonic's status as a "classic" series and whether Smash would be punished for only having two games. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:938309766] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>Safer_777 posted... </cite> <quote>SSB wins easily in a heavily debated match against Sonic. Things seems to have change a bit, right?</quote> Smash was the favorite but there was definitely a debate over Sonic's status as a "classic" series and whether Smash would be punished for only having two games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transcience 04/29/20 1:49:51 PM #178:	Smash was such a darling in 2006. good thing we didnt have a game contest that year. --- add the c and back away iphonesience <cite>transcience posted [p:938309943] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>Smash was such a darling in 2006. good thing we didnt have a game contest that year. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WarThaNemesis2 04/29/20 1:51:16 PM #179:	I'm pretty sure last contest was the only time in ages that people were pretty solid on Sonic, and that's only because his path was 'Snake, and then also Snake'. --- Not a stinky alien. :( Nintendo Switch Code: SW-5719-6555-8388 <cite>WarThaNemesis2 posted [p:938310010] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure last contest was the only time in ages that people were pretty solid on Sonic, and that's only because his path was 'Snake, and then also Snake'. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 04/29/20 2:01:55 PM #180:	transcience posted... Smash was such a darling in 2006. good thing we didnt have a game contest that year. Yeah, that E3 2006 would've made Melee that year what Chrono Trigger was in 2015. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:938310598] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>transcience posted... </cite> <quote>Smash was such a darling in 2006. good thing we didnt have a game contest that year.</quote> Yeah, that E3 2006 would've made Melee that year what Chrono Trigger was in 2015. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kotetsu534 04/29/20 2:06:43 PM #181:	74% of gurus had him winning his division in 2010 (over Kirby and Ganondorf) --- We are living our lives Abound with so much information <cite>Kotetsu534 posted [p:938310859] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>74% of gurus had him winning his division in 2010 (over Kirby and Ganondorf) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master Moltar 04/29/20 3:51:13 PM #182:	forget about mario vs samus now here's a match *~Posts from the Crew Archive~* Division 6: Round 2 - Match 87 (3) Super Metroid vs. (6) Super Mario Galaxy Moltars Analysis Super Metroid Round 1 - 79.46% vs Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Super Mario Galaxy Round 1 - 64.04% vs Dragon Age: Origins In another edition of Going Against my Bracket, weve got this match here. Its basically Samus/Mario again as the only thing Mario really has going for it is that its on top in the Nintendo hierarchy. I mean, that was all it took the last time those two faced off, so you know it's a legitimate argument for Game of the Forever. SM had an amazing showing in R1 while Galaxy only looked okay. Super Metroid is indirectly the stronger game of the two. The problem is that whenever Metroid runs into Mario or Zelda, it lays down and gets rolled over. It's happened so many times, it seems silly at this point to go against the hierarchy. And yet, Im thinking the strength gap between the two games is too much for Galaxy to overcome, especially with old games looking very good this contest. Oh well, sunk with the Samus > Mario ship, may as well ride this to the end too (even though I only jumped on last round HERE WE GO). Moltars Bracket: Super Mario Galaxy Moltars Prediction: Super Metroid 58% ____________________________________________________________________________ Transiences Analysis Alright, let's do this. Let's list all of the reasons that Super Metroid will beat Super Mario Galaxy. * Super Metroid is a more influential/important game. It basically created a blueprint that people still follow today. This game is still considered the high point of that genre. It's the most atmospheric game on the SNES and has to be considered one of the 3 or 4 most important titles released for it. * The site has overwhelmingly backed 90s games. * New Nintendo - from the Wii to the Wii U - has been disappointing like crazy. Galaxy 2 already lost in hilarious fashion and Mario Maker was one of the bigger bombs in recent memory. Even Smash 4 has looked bad. * Its performance was one of the very best of the first round. 79% on Call of Duty 4 was a massacre. Metroid Prime has also looked great, as has SOTN, its spiritual half-brother. * It's the best goddamn video game ever made. And here's why Galaxy has a chance: * It's a Mario game. Yeah, that's it. Every trend points to an easy Super Metroid win. "It's Mario" has been exposed left and right this contest. Some people are even entertaining Super Metroid over Majora's Mask. It's especially hard to go against a SNES game these days. But you know.. Super Metroid is a fraud on this website. Metroid is a game with wide appeal -- Nintendo fans like it but so do fans of atmospheric/moody/exploration/influential games -- and that appeal lets it go to town on a game like Call of Duty. Take away that Nintendo base though and it's not great. I mean, this is a game that nearly lost to Super Mario Kart. That game would have beaten half the bracket, but still, it's not encouraging. Do you trust the big performance on an FPS on GameFAQs, or do you trust the fact that it couldn't handle Nintendo to the point that Mario Kart put a big scare into it? Galaxy 2 came out after the Wii was a joke, but Galaxy was there for the good years. The TP/Galaxy/Brawl triumvirate is the heart of the Wii hype on this website and Galaxy can still put up some nice performances. 65% on Dragon Age is much better than 49% on Mass Effect. People didn't take to Galaxy like they did Mario 64 but that's just a function of its age. As this game gets older, it probably gets stronger. For everything that you can say about Super Metroid, it's still not the highest rated game in history. That honor goes to Mario Galaxy. Prove me wrong, Super Metroid. Show for once in your contest life that you aren't a contest fraud. transience's prediction: Super Mario Galaxy with 54.67% ____________________________________________________________________________ Leonharts Analysis Super Metroid had one of the most surprisingly dominant performances from round 1 with a quadrupling of Call of Duty 4. Super Mario Galaxy had a solid showing against Dragon Age. Modern Mario in general has looked pretty bad so far, but if any game is going to be the exception, its Super Mario Galaxy. Super Nintendo has looked pretty unstoppable thus far, but if any game is going to be the exception, its Super Metroid. Part of me wants to be stubborn and stick with Super Mario Galaxy because Im pretty sure everyone else is jumping ship to Super Metroid. If it cant win here, it should be the turd of the contest and a laughingstock forever. I guess thats what Im rooting for! Leonharts Vote: Super Mario Galaxy Leonharts Prediction: Super Mario Galaxy with 51.25% ____________________________________________________________________________ Kleenexs Analysis This is a good match to see if Metroid is legit. I dont have a ton of faith in SMs natural strength, but theres no denying that it was very impressive last round. Certainly you can place the blame on Call of Duty to some extent, but Metroid deserves a lot of the credit. Galaxy is already a weaker game, so it will be interesting to see if Metroid can SFF it and to what degree. Id expect another solid performance today and you can probably expect some Super Metroid > Majora rumblings it things get too far out of control. Super Metroid with 66% ____________________________________________________________________________ Guests Analysis - Dr Football So when yours truly was filling out his bracket, I looked at this match, spent 5 seconds thinking about it, and picked Super Metroid. Unfortunately for as much as I know (or get extremely lucky about) character strength, Ive never done well in games contests. So I was surprised that Galaxy was the big guru favorite. But with Galaxy 2 losing to Mass Effect, Brawl not making the bracket, and in general old games ruling so far, it appears people just want to forget the Wii existed. I am slightly afraid of the general "Mario > Samus hierarchy, but I think this match will be one of the many daggers in the back of new games doing anything this contest, and if anything, people will be surprised how easily Metroid wins here. (as an aside, with Thanksgiving tomorrow, I want to say Im thankful for this topic and this crew. Its been one of my favorite topics for years, and its one of the things I look forward to most when contests arrive. Thanks yall) Super Metroid - 59.75% Super Mario Galaxy - 40.25% ____________________________________________________________________________ Crew Consensus: Slightly favoring Metroid > Mario, this doesn't seem right... --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ <cite>Master Moltar posted [p:938317223] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>forget about mario vs samus now here's a match ~Posts from the Crew Archive~ Division 6: Round 2 - Match 87 (3) Super Metroid vs. (6) Super Mario Galaxy Moltars Analysis Super Metroid Round 1 - 79.46% vs Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Super Mario Galaxy Round 1 - 64.04% vs Dragon Age: Origins In another edition of Going Against my Bracket, weve got this match here. Its basically Samus/Mario again as the only thing Mario really has going for it is that its on top in the Nintendo hierarchy. I mean, that was all it took the last time those two faced off, so you know it's a legitimate argument for Game of the Forever. SM had an amazing showing in R1 while Galaxy only looked okay. Super Metroid is indirectly the stronger game of the two. The problem is that whenever Metroid runs into Mario or Zelda, it lays down and gets rolled over. It's happened so many times, it seems silly at this point to go against the hierarchy. And yet, Im thinking the strength gap between the two games is too much for Galaxy to overcome, especially with old games looking very good this contest. Oh well, sunk with the Samus > Mario ship, may as well ride this to the end too (even though I only jumped on last round HERE WE GO). Moltars Bracket: Super Mario Galaxy Moltars Prediction: Super Metroid 58% ____________________________________________________________________________ Transiences Analysis Alright, let's do this. Let's list all of the reasons that Super Metroid will beat Super Mario Galaxy. * Super Metroid is a more influential/important game. It basically created a blueprint that people still follow today. This game is still considered the high point of that genre. It's the most atmospheric game on the SNES and has to be considered one of the 3 or 4 most important titles released for it. * The site has overwhelmingly backed 90s games. * New Nintendo - from the Wii to the Wii U - has been disappointing like crazy. Galaxy 2 already lost in hilarious fashion and Mario Maker was one of the bigger bombs in recent memory. Even Smash 4 has looked bad. * Its performance was one of the very best of the first round. 79% on Call of Duty 4 was a massacre. Metroid Prime has also looked great, as has SOTN, its spiritual half-brother. * It's the best goddamn video game ever made. And here's why Galaxy has a chance: * It's a Mario game. Yeah, that's it. Every trend points to an easy Super Metroid win. "It's Mario" has been exposed left and right this contest. Some people are even entertaining Super Metroid over Majora's Mask. It's especially hard to go against a SNES game these days. But you know.. Super Metroid is a fraud on this website. Metroid is a game with wide appeal -- Nintendo fans like it but so do fans of atmospheric/moody/exploration/influential games -- and that appeal lets it go to town on a game like Call of Duty. Take away that Nintendo base though and it's not great. I mean, this is a game that nearly lost to Super Mario Kart. That game would have beaten half the bracket, but still, it's not encouraging. Do you trust the big performance on an FPS on GameFAQs, or do you trust the fact that it couldn't handle Nintendo to the point that Mario Kart put a big scare into it? Galaxy 2 came out after the Wii was a joke, but Galaxy was there for the good years. The TP/Galaxy/Brawl triumvirate is the heart of the Wii hype on this website and Galaxy can still put up some nice performances. 65% on Dragon Age is much better than 49% on Mass Effect. People didn't take to Galaxy like they did Mario 64 but that's just a function of its age. As this game gets older, it probably gets stronger. For everything that you can say about Super Metroid, it's still not the highest rated game in history. That honor goes to Mario Galaxy. Prove me wrong, Super Metroid. Show for once in your contest life that you aren't a contest fraud. transience's prediction: Super Mario Galaxy with 54.67% ____________________________________________________________________________ Leonharts Analysis Super Metroid had one of the most surprisingly dominant performances from round 1 with a quadrupling of Call of Duty 4. Super Mario Galaxy had a solid showing against Dragon Age. Modern Mario in general has looked pretty bad so far, but if any game is going to be the exception, its Super Mario Galaxy. Super Nintendo has looked pretty unstoppable thus far, but if any game is going to be the exception, its Super Metroid. Part of me wants to be stubborn and stick with Super Mario Galaxy because Im pretty sure everyone else is jumping ship to Super Metroid. If it cant win here, it should be the turd of the contest and a laughingstock forever. I guess thats what Im rooting for! Leonharts Vote: Super Mario Galaxy Leonharts Prediction: Super Mario Galaxy with 51.25% ____________________________________________________________________________ Kleenexs Analysis This is a good match to see if Metroid is legit. I dont have a ton of faith in SMs natural strength, but theres no denying that it was very impressive last round. Certainly you can place the blame on Call of Duty to some extent, but Metroid deserves a lot of the credit. Galaxy is already a weaker game, so it will be interesting to see if Metroid can SFF it and to what degree. Id expect another solid performance today and you can probably expect some Super Metroid > Majora rumblings it things get too far out of control. Super Metroid with 66% ____________________________________________________________________________ Guests Analysis - Dr Football So when yours truly was filling out his bracket, I looked at this match, spent 5 seconds thinking about it, and picked Super Metroid. Unfortunately for as much as I know (or get extremely lucky about) character strength, Ive never done well in games contests. So I was surprised that Galaxy was the big guru favorite. But with Galaxy 2 losing to Mass Effect, Brawl not making the bracket, and in general old games ruling so far, it appears people just want to forget the Wii existed. I am slightly afraid of the general "Mario > Samus hierarchy, but I think this match will be one of the many daggers in the back of new games doing anything this contest, and if anything, people will be surprised how easily Metroid wins here. (as an aside, with Thanksgiving tomorrow, I want to say Im thankful for this topic and this crew. Its been one of my favorite topics for years, and its one of the things I look forward to most when contests arrive. Thanks yall) Super Metroid - 59.75% Super Mario Galaxy - 40.25% ____________________________________________________________________________ Crew Consensus: Slightly favoring Metroid > Mario, this doesn't seem right...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dr_Football 04/29/20 4:00:53 PM #183:	oh hey maybe the closest ive ever been on a prediction --- Advokaiser won the Guru. I did not. <cite>Dr_Football posted [p:938317806] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>oh hey maybe the closest ive ever been on a prediction </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 04/29/20 4:02:45 PM #184:	One of the rare misses in my double victory for the Crew that year...! --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:938317917] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>One of the rare misses in my double victory for the Crew that year...! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transience 04/29/20 4:18:00 PM #185:	one of the best results ever --- xyzzy <cite>transience posted [p:938318844] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>one of the best results ever </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transience 04/29/20 4:19:04 PM #186:	65% on Dragon Age is much better than 49% on Mass Effect. man this might not be true --- xyzzy <cite>transience posted [p:938318930] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>65% on Dragon Age is much better than 49% on Mass Effect. man this might not be true </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master Moltar 04/29/20 7:57:00 PM #187:	how far xenoblade and persona 4 have come ~Posts from the Crew Archive~ Division 5: Round 1 - Match 37 (3) Xenoblade Chronicles vs. (14) Donkey Kong Country 2 Moltars Analysis Alright, time for the toughest 8-pack in the contest. Sure, SOTN is the favorite to escape it, but theres lots of potential for an upset, especially in this fourpack. Xenoblade is the favorite going into the match. Yeah, its new, but it has a very rabid fanbase. It reminds me of a weaker P4, which has also exploded in popularity recently. Plus, Smash exposure has also given the series some mainstream appeal. DKC2 is the classic though. Its the old-school, its the nostalgia. So far, that has been the safe bet in the contest. We havent really seen the dynamic play out like it does here. Usually, its the beloved old RPG vs the newer more mainstream game. Here, weve got the beloved new RPG against the popular old game. I think Xenoblade's devoted fanbase will help it get by here, as DKC2 is a well-known, but not super loved game here, especially looking at its older polls. Moltars Bracket: Xenoblade Chronicles Moltars Prediction: Xenoblade Chronicles 52% ____________________________________________________________________________ Transiences Analysis DKC2 always feels like it should be more popular than it is. Polls show that it's weak across the board but there's lots of reasons to question that: it's a well-known series with a lot of really serious fans. If you think Xenoblade is cult garbage, DKC2 isn't the worst pick. But I think Xenoblade is pretty legit. That game is adored. It's basically the new Persona 4 in terms of fandom and it's got a sequel out in three weeks. Its downside has been that it's hard to find and that it came out late in the Wii's lifecycle - but hey, so did DKC2 with the SNES. Anything that came out after Chrono Trigger just seems too late. It came out after the PS1. I don't think it hit enough people. You need a lot of people in front of a merely 'good' platformer to resonate with a large chunk of this site. Xenoblade is way more up our alley and has shown that it's not garbage. I trust that it'll put DKC2 away. transience's prediction: Xenoblade Chronicles with 57.77% ____________________________________________________________________________ Leons Analysis Man, I want DKC2 to win here so badly. I wanted to pick it, but I couldnt get past its previous results. I know there are good explanations to excuse them away, but those are still some pretty bad performances. Xenoblade isnt exactly a bastion of strength itself though. It may have beaten out Mass Effect 3 in GOTY, but we saw, even before the rally kicked in, ME3 wasnt exactly putting up an impressive number on Undertale. If DKC2 was going to pull off an upset against a high seed, it got the right opponent because Xenoblade is almost certainly the weakest 3 seed in the bracket. It may have gotten a lot of publicity, but its still a hard to find game (for less than 100 bucks anyway) that came out really late (in America) in the Wiis lifespan. Xenoblade characters looked awful in the last Character Battle (Not that Diddy has ever looked good, even when he had Brawl behind him). Old vs. new battles have tended to favor the old Okay, Ive talked myself into it because why not. Fanboyism ahoy! Cue up Bramble Blast! Leonharts Vote: Donkey Kong Country 2 Leonharts Prediction: Donkey Kong Country 2 with 50.75% ____________________________________________________________________________ Kleenexs Analysis I didnt even think twice when predicting this match and I still dont think its going to be that close. Xenoblade isnt a huge powerhouse or anything, but Donkey Kong is just downright bad at everything. SFF be damned, DKC2 flopped horrendously in 2009 and DKC1 didnt do much better. Xenoblade is pretty well loved among people that have played it, and since it came out its getting a sequel (next month!) and Shulk was in Smash 4. Its also a much better game than that monkey nonsense. Xenoblade Chronicles with 59% ____________________________________________________________________________ Guests Analysis - ZeldaTPLink http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Donkey_Kong_Country_2_vs_GoldenEye_007_vs_Resident_Evil_2_vs_Super_Mario_RPG_2009 http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Donkey_Kong_Country_vs_Doom_vs_Streets_of_Rage_II_vs_The_Legend_of_Zelda:_A_Link_to_the_Past_2009 http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Metroid_vs_Super_Mario_Kart_vs_The_Legend_of_Zelda:_A_Link_to_the_Past_vs_Donkey_Kong_Country_2009 http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/%283%29Shulk_vs_%2816%29Ratchet_vs_%2825%29Altair_2013 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4960-best-of-2012-game-of-the-year This match is tricky. Xenoblade is the clear board favorite, yet DKC2 seems to have some meaningful support. Let's look at the stats: The first three links shows a clear pattern: when facing strong Nintendo opposition, Donkey Kong Country games fold, and fold hard. It's simply not one of the most popular nintendo series. The reason everyone is distrusting DKC2 is that is has zero contest story to back it having any kind of strength, and the past few years don't provide any reason for it to become stronger. I find that curious though, since DKC2 seems to be one of the most popular games on SNES, according to most people I've talked to. It is the best DKC according to those, and many regard it as fondly as Super Mario World, if not more. The GameFAQs community is a different animal though, and a platformer like DKC2 has to compete in popularity with the Zeldas and Final Fantasies. It's hard for a platformer not called Mario to beat all the RPG and RPG-like games this site loves. But let's look at Xenoblade. The first data I could find is the 2013 contest, where Shulk from Xenoblade lost to Altair and Ratchet (a.k.a. Mr. Receiver of the Biggest Blowout in the Contest). That looks bad. There is also GOTY 2012, where it struggles to take 3rd place from The Walking Dead, in a poll I keep hearing was one of the weakest GOTY polls in history. Which brings me to the next point: How many people have played Xenoblade? I keep hearing it has a low playrate, and I believe it. It's an RPG that came late on the Wii, when most people had abandoned it. It had a strong campaign to bring it to the west, but after that campaign I kind of stopped hearing anything about it. It is from the same series of Xenogears, a game that made a lot of people lose bracket points this year, which could suggest the series' strength is being overrated. I think this game has a more rabid fanbase, even more than anything DKC2 has, but the playrate cannot be higher. Will RPG-faqs triumph over a game that is simply more known? I have DKC2 in my bracket, as a mix of fanboy pick and smelling an upset. It will all depend on the gap between the playrate of the two games. In the current format, a known game like DKC2 could draw a lot of apathy votes to it. Who knows, maybe it could even Nintendo-SFF Xenoblade. Or be SFF'd by it, since DKC loves to disappoint against other Nintendo games. DKC2 - 53% Xenoblade Chronicles - 47% ____________________________________________________________________________ Crew Consensus: Xenoblade the slight favorite to win here --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ <cite>Master Moltar posted [p:938331315] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>how far xenoblade and persona 4 have come ~Posts from the Crew Archive~ Division 5: Round 1 - Match 37 (3) Xenoblade Chronicles vs. (14) Donkey Kong Country 2 Moltars Analysis Alright, time for the toughest 8-pack in the contest. Sure, SOTN is the favorite to escape it, but theres lots of potential for an upset, especially in this fourpack. Xenoblade is the favorite going into the match. Yeah, its new, but it has a very rabid fanbase. It reminds me of a weaker P4, which has also exploded in popularity recently. Plus, Smash exposure has also given the series some mainstream appeal. DKC2 is the classic though. Its the old-school, its the nostalgia. So far, that has been the safe bet in the contest. We havent really seen the dynamic play out like it does here. Usually, its the beloved old RPG vs the newer more mainstream game. Here, weve got the beloved new RPG against the popular old game. I think Xenoblade's devoted fanbase will help it get by here, as DKC2 is a well-known, but not super loved game here, especially looking at its older polls. Moltars Bracket: Xenoblade Chronicles Moltars Prediction: Xenoblade Chronicles 52% ____________________________________________________________________________ Transiences Analysis DKC2 always feels like it should be more popular than it is. Polls show that it's weak across the board but there's lots of reasons to question that: it's a well-known series with a lot of really serious fans. If you think Xenoblade is cult garbage, DKC2 isn't the worst pick. But I think Xenoblade is pretty legit. That game is adored. It's basically the new Persona 4 in terms of fandom and it's got a sequel out in three weeks. Its downside has been that it's hard to find and that it came out late in the Wii's lifecycle - but hey, so did DKC2 with the SNES. Anything that came out after Chrono Trigger just seems too late. It came out after the PS1. I don't think it hit enough people. You need a lot of people in front of a merely 'good' platformer to resonate with a large chunk of this site. Xenoblade is way more up our alley and has shown that it's not garbage. I trust that it'll put DKC2 away. transience's prediction: Xenoblade Chronicles with 57.77% ____________________________________________________________________________ Leons Analysis Man, I want DKC2 to win here so badly. I wanted to pick it, but I couldnt get past its previous results. I know there are good explanations to excuse them away, but those are still some pretty bad performances. Xenoblade isnt exactly a bastion of strength itself though. It may have beaten out Mass Effect 3 in GOTY, but we saw, even before the rally kicked in, ME3 wasnt exactly putting up an impressive number on Undertale. If DKC2 was going to pull off an upset against a high seed, it got the right opponent because Xenoblade is almost certainly the weakest 3 seed in the bracket. It may have gotten a lot of publicity, but its still a hard to find game (for less than 100 bucks anyway) that came out really late (in America) in the Wiis lifespan. Xenoblade characters looked awful in the last Character Battle (Not that Diddy has ever looked good, even when he had Brawl behind him). Old vs. new battles have tended to favor the old Okay, Ive talked myself into it because why not. Fanboyism ahoy! Cue up Bramble Blast! Leonharts Vote: Donkey Kong Country 2 Leonharts Prediction: Donkey Kong Country 2 with 50.75% ____________________________________________________________________________ Kleenexs Analysis I didnt even think twice when predicting this match and I still dont think its going to be that close. Xenoblade isnt a huge powerhouse or anything, but Donkey Kong is just downright bad at everything. SFF be damned, DKC2 flopped horrendously in 2009 and DKC1 didnt do much better. Xenoblade is pretty well loved among people that have played it, and since it came out its getting a sequel (next month!) and Shulk was in Smash 4. Its also a much better game than that monkey nonsense. Xenoblade Chronicles with 59% ____________________________________________________________________________ Guests Analysis - ZeldaTPLink http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Donkey_Kong_Country_2_vs_GoldenEye_007_vs_Resident_Evil_2_vs_Super_Mario_RPG_2009 http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Donkey_Kong_Country_vs_Doom_vs_Streets_of_Rage_II_vs_The_Legend_of_Zelda:_A_Link_to_the_Past_2009 http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Metroid_vs_Super_Mario_Kart_vs_The_Legend_of_Zelda:_A_Link_to_the_Past_vs_Donkey_Kong_Country_2009 http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/%283%29Shulk_vs_%2816%29Ratchet_vs_%2825%29Altair_2013 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4960-best-of-2012-game-of-the-year This match is tricky. Xenoblade is the clear board favorite, yet DKC2 seems to have some meaningful support. Let's look at the stats: The first three links shows a clear pattern: when facing strong Nintendo opposition, Donkey Kong Country games fold, and fold hard. It's simply not one of the most popular nintendo series. The reason everyone is distrusting DKC2 is that is has zero contest story to back it having any kind of strength, and the past few years don't provide any reason for it to become stronger. I find that curious though, since DKC2 seems to be one of the most popular games on SNES, according to most people I've talked to. It is the best DKC according to those, and many regard it as fondly as Super Mario World, if not more. The GameFAQs community is a different animal though, and a platformer like DKC2 has to compete in popularity with the Zeldas and Final Fantasies. It's hard for a platformer not called Mario to beat all the RPG and RPG-like games this site loves. But let's look at Xenoblade. The first data I could find is the 2013 contest, where Shulk from Xenoblade lost to Altair and Ratchet (a.k.a. Mr. Receiver of the Biggest Blowout in the Contest). That looks bad. There is also GOTY 2012, where it struggles to take 3rd place from The Walking Dead, in a poll I keep hearing was one of the weakest GOTY polls in history. Which brings me to the next point: How many people have played Xenoblade? I keep hearing it has a low playrate, and I believe it. It's an RPG that came late on the Wii, when most people had abandoned it. It had a strong campaign to bring it to the west, but after that campaign I kind of stopped hearing anything about it. It is from the same series of Xenogears, a game that made a lot of people lose bracket points this year, which could suggest the series' strength is being overrated. I think this game has a more rabid fanbase, even more than anything DKC2 has, but the playrate cannot be higher. Will RPG-faqs triumph over a game that is simply more known? I have DKC2 in my bracket, as a mix of fanboy pick and smelling an upset. It will all depend on the gap between the playrate of the two games. In the current format, a known game like DKC2 could draw a lot of apathy votes to it. Who knows, maybe it could even Nintendo-SFF Xenoblade. Or be SFF'd by it, since DKC loves to disappoint against other Nintendo games. DKC2 - 53% Xenoblade Chronicles - 47% ____________________________________________________________________________ Crew Consensus: Xenoblade the slight favorite to win here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master Moltar 04/29/20 7:58:09 PM #188:	~Posts from the Crew Archive~ Southwest Division: Round 2 - Match 86 (12) Dead Rising vs. (4) Persona 4 Moltars Analysis Dead Rising Round 1 - 50.91% on The World Ends With You DR barely pulls off the upset Vice City Round 1 - 63.97% on Braid This...seems really bad for some reason. So I had TWEWY winning this four-pack, whoops. I actually lost faith in it before the match against Dead Rising and it ended up doing better than my lowered expectations predicted, so thats good for it. Not so good for Dead Rising though. Then, Persona 4 only got 64% on Braid, and thats a game that I would expect most games in this bracket to destroy. However, its very possible that Ive been underestimating downloadable games all contest (that would be the case with MM9 at least), and that P4 victory was better than it looked. The morning vote saved DR from TWEWY, and this being a day match helps Dead Rising too if P4 keeps it close. However, Persona 3s performance against FF9 sealed the deal for me here. From the beginning, Ive believed that Persona 4 was stronger than Persona 3. Not only did that game get a lot of people into the series, but fans of the series also really loved it. P3 really impressed me against FF9, and I would imagine that P4 would do even better there. Dead Rising? Probably somewhere in the middle based off its performance with TWEWY, a game that Im not too sure Id take over P3 anymore. Moltars Bracket: TWEWY wins (lol) Moltars Prediction: Persona 4 - 52% ____________________________________________________________________________ Lopens Analysis You only really need an argument for this one if you're picking Dead Rising. Persona 4 justification is easy enough... Dead Rising only beat TWEWY by like 1000 votes, and Persona 4 seems > TWEWY. I'm not entirely sure I agree with Persona 4 being an obvious choice to be stronger than TWEWY, myself, but I'm still going to pick it, somewhat hesitantly. Doubly somewhat hesitantly cause of the fact this one is a day match where I think Dead Rising will excel. Lopen's prediction: Persona 4 with 52.55% ____________________________________________________________________________ Transiences Analysis Over the last week, I've become pretty confident in this tossup match. Persona 4 is stronger than TWEWY. It's not guaranteed but I'd easily take the super-hyped console RPG over the gimmicky handheld one. Square making TWEWY doesn't really matter that much because Persona 4 has reached Tales of Symphonia levels of hype. The one thing pushing me towards Dead Rising is that it's a day match - once the night vote evaporated, Dead Rising rolled right over TWEWY. It shouldn't matter though. Persona 3 showed it actually had a better day vote than FF9 -- something that isn't exactly difficult, but still, it's not the worst of the worst. Dead Rising is in my bracket so I'll be cheering for that, but on an RPG site I'll take the most beloved JRPG of the last five years. transience's prediction: Persona 4 with 54.44% ____________________________________________________________________________ Leons Analysis Man, what a mess. I really dont think Persona 4 will be much stronger than TWEWY, despite the fact that both Persona games won a match in this contest and P4 essentially tied with SFIV last contest. Persona 4 lost the day vote to Braid last round, and Dead Rising showed that it was a day game last round. In a night match, I might lean P4s way, but Im taking Dead Rising in a day match here. It could easily go either way here though. Leonharts Embarrassing Confession of the Match: I dont like playing super long RPGs. Give me something manageable. Leonharts Vote: UhhhhDead Rising, I guess. Leonharts Prediction: Dead Rising with 52.01% ____________________________________________________________________________ Kleenexs Analysis Oh man. This is the last (only?) difficult match of Round 2, but it's a doozy. Dead Rising barely managed to scrape by TWEWY (still the worst acronym ever) last round, while Persona 4 made Braid it's plaything. I'm having a real tough time pegging Persona for this match. I honestly don't know if I'd take it over TWEWY or not. Probably, so logically I'd have to take Persona to beat out Dead Rising. But it's a day match, and Persona 3 managed to lose the ASV to Final Fantasy 9 of all things. Dead Rising should be pretty popular with the casual crowd, as ZOMBIES usually are. I can't even go the Golden Sun route here, because I'm not getting a good feeling about either game. Guess that means it's time to stick with my bracket. Kleenex's Prediction: Dead Rising with 50.01% cop out zone ____________________________________________________________________________ Applekidjoshs Analysis Interesting match between two games that are close enough in strength that it could go either way but weak enough in strength that it won't matter after this round. I'm rushed for time today but suffice to say I'm trusting RPGFAQs on this one Persona 4 > Dead Rising with 54% ____________________________________________________________________________ Guests Analysis - Big Bob Alright, let's get things out of the way: Persona 4's my favorite game of all time, so this writeup's gonna be biased as hell. But I'll try to keep it reasonable. This is easily the weakest fourpack in the bracket; both Dead Rising and Persona 4 are fodder-level, yet one of them's gonna wind up in the third round with the big boys. Dead Rising barely scraped by The World Ends With You, another JRPG, but that was a night match and this is the day; Persona 4's worst nightmare. Persona 4 lost the day vote to BRAID. Of course, it's easy to make the argument that Braid's a 360 game and would have 360-like trends, but still. Timewise, Dead Rising has the advantage, and it's already beaten one JRPG; why not another? But the difference is, Persona 4's significantly stronger than TWEWY. For one thing, it's a console game as opposed to handheld. And while TWEWY got a mixed reception, Persona 4 is much more liked among those who have played it. TWEWY came out when the DS was going strong with plenty of games, and Atlus came along and delivered a solid RPG to a console that everyone thought was dead; it simply stands out more. The World Ends With You also seemed to have just came and went, but Atlus has been pumping out Shin Megami Tensei games like crazy ever since Persona 4; they released three in 2009, and two more in 2010, with Persona 2 arriving next year. Point is, it's just more recognizable and more popular than TWEWY. But is that enough to beat Dead Rising? In the night, sure. But if Persona 4 wants to win this, it's going to have to be the flat-out stronger game. And I think Persona can do it. Sorry for making this writeup more about TWEWY than Dead Rising, but like I said, DR's already proven itself capable, so I'm aiming for the weakness of its opponent. Yosuke Hanamura > Neku Sakuraba (in terms of protagonists with Japanese-sounding names who never take their headphones off) Prediction: Persona 4 with 52% ____________________________________________________________________________ Crew Consensus: 2 are going with Dead Rising, but the rest of the Crew believes in RPGFAQs --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ <cite>Master Moltar posted [p:938331390] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>~Posts from the Crew Archive~ Southwest Division: Round 2 - Match 86 (12) Dead Rising vs. (4) Persona 4 Moltars Analysis Dead Rising Round 1 - 50.91% on The World Ends With You DR barely pulls off the upset Vice City Round 1 - 63.97% on Braid This...seems really bad for some reason. So I had TWEWY winning this four-pack, whoops. I actually lost faith in it before the match against Dead Rising and it ended up doing better than my lowered expectations predicted, so thats good for it. Not so good for Dead Rising though. Then, Persona 4 only got 64% on Braid, and thats a game that I would expect most games in this bracket to destroy. However, its very possible that Ive been underestimating downloadable games all contest (that would be the case with MM9 at least), and that P4 victory was better than it looked. The morning vote saved DR from TWEWY, and this being a day match helps Dead Rising too if P4 keeps it close. However, Persona 3s performance against FF9 sealed the deal for me here. From the beginning, Ive believed that Persona 4 was stronger than Persona 3. Not only did that game get a lot of people into the series, but fans of the series also really loved it. P3 really impressed me against FF9, and I would imagine that P4 would do even better there. Dead Rising? Probably somewhere in the middle based off its performance with TWEWY, a game that Im not too sure Id take over P3 anymore. Moltars Bracket: TWEWY wins (lol) Moltars Prediction: Persona 4 - 52% ____________________________________________________________________________ Lopens Analysis You only really need an argument for this one if you're picking Dead Rising. Persona 4 justification is easy enough... Dead Rising only beat TWEWY by like 1000 votes, and Persona 4 seems > TWEWY. I'm not entirely sure I agree with Persona 4 being an obvious choice to be stronger than TWEWY, myself, but I'm still going to pick it, somewhat hesitantly. Doubly somewhat hesitantly cause of the fact this one is a day match where I think Dead Rising will excel. Lopen's prediction: Persona 4 with 52.55% ____________________________________________________________________________ Transiences Analysis Over the last week, I've become pretty confident in this tossup match. Persona 4 is stronger than TWEWY. It's not guaranteed but I'd easily take the super-hyped console RPG over the gimmicky handheld one. Square making TWEWY doesn't really matter that much because Persona 4 has reached Tales of Symphonia levels of hype. The one thing pushing me towards Dead Rising is that it's a day match - once the night vote evaporated, Dead Rising rolled right over TWEWY. It shouldn't matter though. Persona 3 showed it actually had a better day vote than FF9 -- something that isn't exactly difficult, but still, it's not the worst of the worst. Dead Rising is in my bracket so I'll be cheering for that, but on an RPG site I'll take the most beloved JRPG of the last five years. transience's prediction: Persona 4 with 54.44% ____________________________________________________________________________ Leons Analysis Man, what a mess. I really dont think Persona 4 will be much stronger than TWEWY, despite the fact that both Persona games won a match in this contest and P4 essentially tied with SFIV last contest. Persona 4 lost the day vote to Braid last round, and Dead Rising showed that it was a day game last round. In a night match, I might lean P4s way, but Im taking Dead Rising in a day match here. It could easily go either way here though. Leonharts Embarrassing Confession of the Match: I dont like playing super long RPGs. Give me something manageable. Leonharts Vote: UhhhhDead Rising, I guess. Leonharts Prediction: Dead Rising with 52.01% ____________________________________________________________________________ Kleenexs Analysis Oh man. This is the last (only?) difficult match of Round 2, but it's a doozy. Dead Rising barely managed to scrape by TWEWY (still the worst acronym ever) last round, while Persona 4 made Braid it's plaything. I'm having a real tough time pegging Persona for this match. I honestly don't know if I'd take it over TWEWY or not. Probably, so logically I'd have to take Persona to beat out Dead Rising. But it's a day match, and Persona 3 managed to lose the ASV to Final Fantasy 9 of all things. Dead Rising should be pretty popular with the casual crowd, as ZOMBIES usually are. I can't even go the Golden Sun route here, because I'm not getting a good feeling about either game. Guess that means it's time to stick with my bracket. Kleenex's Prediction: Dead Rising with 50.01% cop out zone ____________________________________________________________________________ Applekidjoshs Analysis Interesting match between two games that are close enough in strength that it could go either way but weak enough in strength that it won't matter after this round. I'm rushed for time today but suffice to say I'm trusting RPGFAQs on this one Persona 4 > Dead Rising with 54% ____________________________________________________________________________ Guests Analysis - Big Bob Alright, let's get things out of the way: Persona 4's my favorite game of all time, so this writeup's gonna be biased as hell. But I'll try to keep it reasonable. This is easily the weakest fourpack in the bracket; both Dead Rising and Persona 4 are fodder-level, yet one of them's gonna wind up in the third round with the big boys. Dead Rising barely scraped by The World Ends With You, another JRPG, but that was a night match and this is the day; Persona 4's worst nightmare. Persona 4 lost the day vote to BRAID. Of course, it's easy to make the argument that Braid's a 360 game and would have 360-like trends, but still. Timewise, Dead Rising has the advantage, and it's already beaten one JRPG; why not another? But the difference is, Persona 4's significantly stronger than TWEWY. For one thing, it's a console game as opposed to handheld. And while TWEWY got a mixed reception, Persona 4 is much more liked among those who have played it. TWEWY came out when the DS was going strong with plenty of games, and Atlus came along and delivered a solid RPG to a console that everyone thought was dead; it simply stands out more. The World Ends With You also seemed to have just came and went, but Atlus has been pumping out Shin Megami Tensei games like crazy ever since Persona 4; they released three in 2009, and two more in 2010, with Persona 2 arriving next year. Point is, it's just more recognizable and more popular than TWEWY. But is that enough to beat Dead Rising? In the night, sure. But if Persona 4 wants to win this, it's going to have to be the flat-out stronger game. And I think Persona can do it. Sorry for making this writeup more about TWEWY than Dead Rising, but like I said, DR's already proven itself capable, so I'm aiming for the weakness of its opponent. Yosuke Hanamura > Neku Sakuraba (in terms of protagonists with Japanese-sounding names who never take their headphones off) Prediction: Persona 4 with 52% ____________________________________________________________________________ Crew Consensus: 2 are going with Dead Rising, but the rest of the Crew believes in RPGFAQs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 04/29/20 7:58:22 PM #189:	fast forward to 2020 and that prediction looks great (the Xenoblade one) --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:938331402] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>fast forward to 2020 and that prediction looks great (the Xenoblade one) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 04/29/20 7:58:38 PM #190:	I went 2/2 picking DKC2 in 2015! --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:938331423] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>I went 2/2 picking DKC2 in 2015! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 04/29/20 7:59:42 PM #191:	Also Persona 4 has literally never lost a close match. It's surprisingly clutch. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:938331489] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>Also Persona 4 has literally never lost a close match. It's surprisingly clutch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 04/29/20 8:01:24 PM #192:	Master Moltar posted... Leonharts Embarrassing Confession of the Match: I dont like playing super long RPGs. Give me something manageable. Leonharts Vote: UhhhhDead Rising, I guess. Character Development --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:938331589] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>Master Moltar posted... </cite> <quote>Leonharts Embarrassing Confession of the Match: I dont like playing super long RPGs. Give me something manageable. Leonharts Vote: UhhhhDead Rising, I guess.</quote>Character Development </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transcience 04/29/20 8:17:09 PM #193:	is dkc2 a top 6 game this contest y/n --- add the c and back away iphonesience <cite>transcience posted [p:938332583] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>is dkc2 a top 6 game this contest y/n </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master Moltar 04/29/20 8:19:21 PM #194:	KamikazePotato posted... Character Development oh hey i stumbled across this KP's Analysis This is the match. I think Spyro probably wins this easily - he's been complete garbage in his past appearences, but I think what he's done is still enough. Clementine and Reyn are going to be awful - Walking Dead and Xenoblade are really popular right now, but a decent chunk of their popularity is probably from word-of-mouth and not from everyone having played their game. Clementine and Reyn aren't even the main characters of their game, and without the gigantic field, Reyn doesn't even make it in (still confused as to how Dunban had a higher seed, I always thought that Reyn would do a little better than him). Xenoblade had a limited, GameStop-only release and Walking Dead is a PC game on GameFAQs. Their playrate is not looking good. Spyro blows, but people at least know who he is. Clementine does not have a design that appeals to general GameFAQs, either. Reyn does, but I think he's going to be inherently weaker - people seem to care about Clementine a lot. With all that said, I'm picking Reyn because I don't give a s*. This match is too ridiculous for me to care. It's Reyn time. Picking Clem for second because I also really like her. Reyn - 35% Clementine- 33% Spyro - 32% --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ <cite>Master Moltar posted [p:938332709] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted...</cite> <quote> Character Development </quote> oh hey i stumbled across this KP's Analysis This is the match. I think Spyro probably wins this easily - he's been complete garbage in his past appearences, but I think what he's done is still enough. Clementine and Reyn are going to be awful - Walking Dead and Xenoblade are really popular right now, but a decent chunk of their popularity is probably from word-of-mouth and not from everyone having played their game. Clementine and Reyn aren't even the main characters of their game, and without the gigantic field, Reyn doesn't even make it in (still confused as to how Dunban had a higher seed, I always thought that Reyn would do a little better than him). Xenoblade had a limited, GameStop-only release and Walking Dead is a PC game on GameFAQs. Their playrate is not looking good. Spyro blows, but people at least know who he is. Clementine does not have a design that appeals to general GameFAQs, either. Reyn does, but I think he's going to be inherently weaker - people seem to care about Clementine a lot. With all that said, I'm picking Reyn because I don't give a s*. This match is too ridiculous for me to care. It's Reyn time. Picking Clem for second because I also really like her. Reyn - 35% Clementine- 33% Spyro - 32%</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeldaTPLink 04/29/20 8:21:04 PM #195:	I was making guest posts in 2015? Feels like yesterday that I started sending those. <cite>ZeldaTPLink posted [p:938332836] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>I was making guest posts in 2015? Feels like yesterday that I started sending those. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transcience 04/29/20 8:21:27 PM #196:	ah, 2013, when we actually debated this nonsense makes this contest feel strong sometimes --- add the c and back away iphonesience <cite>transcience posted [p:938332855] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>ah, 2013, when we actually debated this nonsense makes this contest feel strong sometimes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
th3l3fty 04/29/20 8:24:44 PM #197:	Persona 4 has come so far ~~Moltar no longer mistakes it for GTA~~ --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -transience I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris <cite>th3l3fty posted [p:938333066] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>Persona 4 has come so far Moltar no longer mistakes it for GTA</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master Moltar 04/29/20 8:31:06 PM #198:	not looking too much at the 3-way and 4-way matches but if there's any requests for those i can dig them out too transcience posted... ah, 2013, when we actually debated this nonsense makes this contest feel strong sometimes Transiences Analysis The worlds largest fighting game tournament, the Evolution Championship Series (EVO) scheduled to take place July 12-14 at the Paris Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas, is set to hold a record-number of competitors and spectators, EVO organizers tell GameSpot. EVO has exploded in growth since the 2009 release of Capcom's Street Fighter IV, continuing from last year's record numbers. There are 6,097 tournament entries this year across all nine games, which include Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition, Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3, Super Smash Bros. Melee, Injustice: Gods Among Us, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Mortal Kombat 9, Persona 4 Arena, and King of Fighters XIII. EVO founder Tom Cannon says this should be between 4,000 and 5,000 individual players [Ed. Note: this figure is actually 3,538 exactly, still a record-breaking figure]. Not only does this surpass last year's EVO, it also makes it the most competitors at a single event in competitive gaming and eSports history. Competitors will play over 30,000 matches over the three days. "I think the numbers just go to show that fighting game fans love to compete," Cannon told GameSpot. "Most of our players know they have almost no shot at winning the tournament. They use the experience to see how they measure up against the best in the world. The open bracket is incredibly important for us. It comes from our arcade roots, where anyone with a quarter could step up and try to knock of the guy on that cabinet." EVO has also sold more spectator passes than in any year previously, with the finals on Sunday having sold out months ago. While EVO has found a solution to sell tickets at the door on Friday and Saturday, it will just not be possible on Sunday. "At a certain point we all figured it couldn't get any bigger, but every year the players and fans defy expectations," Cannon said regarding the unexpected growth of the event each year. "It's been really rewarding and inspiring to have been a part of something that's lasted for so long and grown into a giant celebration of these great games and competitive gaming in general." Players from over 51 countries will be attending this year's EVO, featuring the worlds best fighting game players across multiple titles. Reigning Street Fighter IV and Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 Champions Sun Woo "Infiltration" Lee and Ryan "Filipino Champ" Ramirez will return to defend their titles. Multiple-time and game EVO Champion, Street Fighter legend Daigo Umehara, looks to take back the crown from Infiltration, while the world's current best Marvel player Christopher "NYChrisG" Gonzalez looks for his first EVO gold. transience's prediction: Ryu with 55.66%, Yuri Lowell with 23.11%, Face McShooty with 21.23% --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ <cite>Master Moltar posted [p:938333427] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>not looking too much at the 3-way and 4-way matches but if there's any requests for those i can dig them out too transcience posted...</cite> <quote>ah, 2013, when we actually debated this nonsense makes this contest feel strong sometimes </quote> Transiences Analysis The worlds largest fighting game tournament, the Evolution Championship Series (EVO) scheduled to take place July 12-14 at the Paris Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas, is set to hold a record-number of competitors and spectators, EVO organizers tell GameSpot. EVO has exploded in growth since the 2009 release of Capcom's Street Fighter IV, continuing from last year's record numbers. There are 6,097 tournament entries this year across all nine games, which include Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition, Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3, Super Smash Bros. Melee, Injustice: Gods Among Us, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Mortal Kombat 9, Persona 4 Arena, and King of Fighters XIII. EVO founder Tom Cannon says this should be between 4,000 and 5,000 individual players [Ed. Note: this figure is actually 3,538 exactly, still a record-breaking figure]. Not only does this surpass last year's EVO, it also makes it the most competitors at a single event in competitive gaming and eSports history. Competitors will play over 30,000 matches over the three days. "I think the numbers just go to show that fighting game fans love to compete," Cannon told GameSpot. "Most of our players know they have almost no shot at winning the tournament. They use the experience to see how they measure up against the best in the world. The open bracket is incredibly important for us. It comes from our arcade roots, where anyone with a quarter could step up and try to knock of the guy on that cabinet." EVO has also sold more spectator passes than in any year previously, with the finals on Sunday having sold out months ago. While EVO has found a solution to sell tickets at the door on Friday and Saturday, it will just not be possible on Sunday. "At a certain point we all figured it couldn't get any bigger, but every year the players and fans defy expectations," Cannon said regarding the unexpected growth of the event each year. "It's been really rewarding and inspiring to have been a part of something that's lasted for so long and grown into a giant celebration of these great games and competitive gaming in general." Players from over 51 countries will be attending this year's EVO, featuring the worlds best fighting game players across multiple titles. Reigning Street Fighter IV and Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 Champions Sun Woo "Infiltration" Lee and Ryan "Filipino Champ" Ramirez will return to defend their titles. Multiple-time and game EVO Champion, Street Fighter legend Daigo Umehara, looks to take back the crown from Infiltration, while the world's current best Marvel player Christopher "NYChrisG" Gonzalez looks for his first EVO gold. transience's prediction: Ryu with 55.66%, Yuri Lowell with 23.11%, Face McShooty with 21.23%</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MetalmindStats 04/29/20 8:31:06 PM #199:	Leonhart4 posted... Also Persona 4 has literally never lost a close match. It's surprisingly clutch. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/ 3474-division-8-round-1-gta4-persona-4-sf4-ssbb (remove the space) Also, I vote for Mario/Samus 2018 as the next retrospective, for totally-not-biased reasons! (Plus, I do think it will actually be relevant to predicting SSBU/SMO.) --- "I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people who do." You won the CBX Guru Contest, Advokaiser! Bully for you! <cite>MetalmindStats posted [p:938333429] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>Leonhart4 posted... </cite> <quote>Also Persona 4 has literally never lost a close match. It's surprisingly clutch.</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/ 3474-division-8-round-1-gta4-persona-4-sf4-ssbb (remove the space) Also, I vote for Mario/Samus 2018 as the next retrospective, for totally-not-biased reasons! (Plus, I do think it will actually be relevant to predicting SSBU/SMO.) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transcience 04/29/20 8:38:22 PM #200:	man i have no memory of that or what a face mcshooty is --- add the c and back away iphonesience <cite>transcience posted [p:938333840] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>man i have no memory of that or what a face mcshooty is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 04/29/20 8:41:34 PM #201:	"X is going to win because of logic, but I like Y, so fuck everything Y wins" are the best writeups transcience posted... man i have no memory of that or what a face mcshooty is Borderlands 2 humor didn't age very well --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:938334032] in Game of th... [t:78621867]...</cite> <quote>"X is going to win because of logic, but I like Y, so fuck everything Y wins" are the best writeups transcience posted... </cite> <quote>man i have no memory of that or what a face mcshooty is</quote> Borderlands 2 humor didn't age very well </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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