Board 8 > Game of the Decade: 2010-2019 Contest Analysis Crew - Part 5

(+) Yeah! (+)

I'm glad that the times I'm most entertaining coincide with when I'm loudest wrong.

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With the additional free time from the break, Crew member Guest has also written more than usually.

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Any chance of MGS2/SOTC? Thanks for the No Mercy/Fire Emblem match predictions.

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It's contest day so the trips to yesteryear have ended

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Moltars signature points you to the crew archives if you want to deep dive into our colossal errors over the years.

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Semifinals:

Ropen's Write-up

I think the Stupid Ass Tetris Piece is going to die, here. When the going gets tough, the joke voters won't be devoted enough to the cause of the piece. Contrary to Master Chief's vote minimum, I think the Tetris Piece's is going to abandon it when it gets too far. There's a point where a joke just stops being funny. When does the Tetris Piece become beating a dead horse? Even without that, though, Sonic and Snake might just get too much anyway. If they both get 30%, the piece is as good as done.

Waah, waah, Master Chief is a joke, you say! Hush, suckas! Can't bring me down! Permit me this hate... in this moment of triumph... ha ha ha ha.... HA HA HA HA... the death of the Tetris Piece!

Okay, okay... about the rest of this match. Oh, spying the competition I see that Sonic seemed a bit weak in the previous round! Is it enough to be defeated by Mr. Whatever here? I'm not going to bet on that. As I said before, I don't think the fanbases of the pretty boy and Sora shared much membership. And heck, we've seen weird things... fishy things happen between MGS and FF before. If anything, that Renzoukuken spamming freak is going to be hurt more by Snake's presence than he was by Sora's, as crazy as that sounds.

Though I don't think he's gonna just die, not a bit. The one named after weather has some backbone in his fanbase, no doubt. In addition I don't think that he's going to be hurting Snake much either. I'm just sayin, don't expect him to go crazy without Sora here, I just don't think it's gonna happen. Sonic beat him in the previous round, and I'm not seein a reason that's gonna change this time around. Of course, Sonic might have it in him to upset Snake here... but Snake has been more impressive for the most part, so I'm gonna have to just stick with him. No big reason to doubt him now.

Now I'm gonna shape my write-up as a boot to kick the Tetris Piece's ass. No support here in this write-up, none. Aw yeah goin down end of tracks die die die.

Ropen's Prediction:
Snake - 28.67%
Sonic the Hedgehog - 26.62%
... whatever - 24.37%
Stupid Ass Tetris Piece - 20.34%

Finals:

Lopens Analysis

So... the damn L-Block is triumphant. And it appears to be gaining more and more power. Some are even calling it to bring down Link and Cloud... well, I don't believe it can. There's a world of difference between Link and Cloud, and Snake. It might have mad rallies, madder than ever before... and vote stuffing. BUT it's going to lose some votes too, because Link and Cloud are beasts. I can't see it losing that much, but it won't have to to lose.

Now, I think Link has it... for two reasons. For the first, it seems like Cloud is going to be relatively abandoned in this match. I don't know, the vibe amongst Cloud voters I've seen is "I want Link to lose, so I'm voting the L-Block" On the other hand, all of us that hate L-Block like the plague are going to screen to Link, to save us from this horrible... thing. Oh, and Cloud of course is weaker, and will be drained by Solid Snake more than Link will.

The second... now... if you'll recall, Master Chief lost. But he... how did Master Chief lose...? He's INVINCIBLE! And what happened to his day vote?

... I know what happened. That coward Link... the thief... I remember, now... the camera I had propped up to protect the Game Fuel. An L-Block was in the way as I went to check it... in disgust I turned away, searching for my flamethrower to promptly dispose of it. But now... now...

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/NeoX-Death/MissingFuel.jpg

Augh... damn you, Link. I always knew they were right in Link's Awakening when they called you "Thief." I... I... well... fine. Use it well.

FIGHT FOR US, HERO OF TIME. USE THE GAME FUEL. DESTROY THE STUPID ASS TETRIS PIECE.

Lopen's vote: Link. Believe.

Lopen's prediction:
Link - 36.04%
ACCURSED TETRIS PIECE - 32.00%
Cloud - 21.51%
Solid Snake - 10.45%

Why did Lopen stop the "change name because L-Block took the L from it" gimmick between semi-finals and finals?

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He was secretly supporting the stupid ass Tetris piece.

My favorite thing about those write-ups is that the word "meme" wasn't in common use yet and how we referred to those as fads back then. Cute.

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Yeah, we only used "meme" to refer to MGS2's theme back then! I had forgotten we used the word "fad" so much though.

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Round 4 The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild vs. Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age

Moltars Analysis

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Round 1 85.02% vs. The Outer Worlds
Round 2 84.86% vs. Halo: Reach
Round 3 80.25% vs. Final Fantasy XV

Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age
Round 1 80.67% vs. The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC
Round 2 71.91% vs. Bastion
Round 3 53.27% vs. Monster Hunter: World

If R3 showed anything, its that Breath of the Wild is playing chess while every other game here is playing checkers. Witcher, Skyrim, Dark Souls, Smash, all these games didnt blow us away last round, and even Persona 5 and Mario Odyssey mostly looked good because they beat up on weaker games. BotW hit 80% on decent competition.

DQ will be lucky to not get tripled here. It had a close match with Monster Hunter, which probably isnt too far from FFXV in strength.

Conclusion: BotW is just a monster.

Moltars Bracket: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

Moltars Prediction: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 76%

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transiences Analysis

And we're back! Look, I really love Dragon Quest XI. It's the best JRPG of the last, I don't know, 6 or 7 years. People have been talking it up as a reasonably strong game - not anything groundbreaking, but well above the likes of FFXV. I've been pretty strongly pushing back on that take. DQ11 might be better because people generally like modern DQ better than modern FF, but the difference when compared to a giant like Breath of the Wild is going to be negligible.

DQ11 is worth 61% on Bravely default, which isn't exactly great! I think FFXV could probably pull a number close to that too. I've got DQ in the high 70s here and won't be surprised if it pushes to 80. Breath of the Wild is the only game in this bracket that would be absolutely legit in a big bracket contest.

transience's prediction: Zelda: Breath of the Wild with 78.41%

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Leonharts Analysis

The only real question is whether Dragon Quest XI can break 20% here! Breath of the Wild has done nothing to even slightly diminish its status as overwhelming favorite, and nothing has risen up that looks like it can remotely challenge it (without a rally anyway). Anyway, this boils down to whether Dragon Quest XI is stronger than Final Fantasy XV. The Final Fantasy name is more valuable than the Dragon Quest name on GameFAQs by leaps and bounds, which earns FFXV a certain level of respect by default, which enabled it to squeak by Hollow Knight. The only other Dragon Quest game thats ever been worth anything here is DQ8.

However, thats really the only reason to believe FFXV would win. Dragon Quest XI was better received and got a Switch port last year. DQ Hero was added to Smash Ultimate as DLC last year (which is honestly pretty negligible in terms of boosting DQXI, but its worth mentioning, at least). I think probably the most important factor is that Final Fantasy XV got abandoned before ever truly being finished, which will only continue to hurt it as the years go by (like Metal Gear Solid V). Even someone who really liked FFXV (like me) cant help but be bummed out by that every time I think about it.

So in conclusion, I do believe Dragon Quest XI will finally be the game to break 20% on Breath of the Wild! But Moltar posting old writeups from the Crew archives has reminded me of how creative I would get in these writeups of obvious blowouts, so lets try to spice things up a bit! Lets ask the protagonists of the games what their feelings are leading up to this match!

Link:

DQXI Hero:

Oh, right.

Leonharts Vote: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

Leonharts Prediction: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild with 77.77%
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Kleenexs Analysis

Oh, this thing is still going huh? Well I guess we better take a look at what exciting matches we have in store for Round 4, then! Got a real banger here today. The most highly debating match of the round, possibly. Everyones been talking about it for a week and were all excited to finally find out whos going to win between Breath of the Wild and the 80% barrier. After pondering long and hard for days, I think I need to side with the 80% barrier for this one. I have to imagine Dragon Quest is stronger than FFXV. Which seems weird to say but boy does FFXV suck. And its not like Dragon Quest needs to be all that much better to swing the match in 80%s favor.

Sorry Zelda, looks like your time is up. It was a good run.

Kleenexs Prediction: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild with 78.25%

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Guests Analysis UltimaterializerX

Did you know that Breath of the Wild is the first contest entrant to score 80% in three straight rounds since Link in 2004? It's true. Here are the numbers:

Link vs CATS 2004: 88% - 12%
Link vs Ganondorf 2004: 88% - 12%
Link vs Yoshi 2004: 82% - 18%

BotW vs The Outer Worlds 2020: 85% - 15%
BotW vs Halo Reach 2020: 85% - 15%
BotW vs Final Fantasy 15 2020: 80% - 20%

That's the entire list. Breath of the Wild is on a whole new level this contest, and it feels like we took a game with top tier 90s strength and just plopped it down into the middle of a field of fodder. It's often discussed in sports what would happen if someone from the modern era, complete with all of our training, medicine, film, and PEDs went back in time and competed against old era players. Can you even imagine prime Shaq or Lebron playing basketball in the 1960s?

That's essentially what's happening this contest with Breath of the Wild. There are maybe 5 games that could beat this things heads-up, and all of them are from the 1990s. Sticking it in this bracket just isn't fair, and adding to that is people on Board 8 actually wanting Link to win for once. It all concludes in the easiest contest run we'll ever see barring a developer rally, and the only question here is whether or not it can break 80% and set the record.

Link's fourth match in 2004 was against Crono, who held him to 63%. Dragon Quest 11 will assuredly not hold Breath of the Wild to that number, and the question here is whether or not the game is stronger than Final Fantasy 15. Personally, I don't think it is. At least, that's what I'm rooting for because it's neat seeing records go down.

Breath of the Wild - 81%
Dragon Quest 11 - 19%

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Crew Consensus: Game over for Dragon Quest

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Nothing is even in the same league as the nanasilencer topic because people still remember it 17 years later and it inspired one of the first major board fads/memes in Fanta Shokata.

It's also the best because that topic was made after the match had already started.

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Kleenex put back in the box

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Ulti managed to prevent the crew curse. Link wins another one against the 80% barrier!

Damn, these are some high BotW picks.

OoT is only worth 80% on Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate, so there's only so high I can see BotW going here.

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@UltimaterializerX

According to my contest analysis Zelda series did broke 80% on the first 3 rounds on 2006 too and had around 75 in Round 4 too. So we see FINALLY this record break!
By another Zelda game/character. Eh.

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I can't see DQ11 not doing better than FFXV, which looked awful in every one of its matches. Bastion would beat the crap out of Edith Finch.

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DoctorJimmy133 posted...

I can't see DQ11 not doing better than FFXV, which looked awful in every one of its matches. Bastion would beat the crap out of Edith Finch.

Bastion can blow out Edith Finch and DQXI not be any stronger than FFXV!

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Round 4 Mass Effect 2 vs. Resident Evil 2

Moltars Analysis

Mass Effect 2
Round 1 62.94% vs. Resident Evil 7: biohazard
Round 2 66.88% vs. Fallout 4
Round 3 55.12% vs. Horizon Zero Dawn

Resident Evil 2
Round 1 83.13% vs. Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair
Round 2 57.57% vs. DOOM
Round 3 50.16% vs. Bloodborne

Putting all those results together like that makes it pretty clear to me that ME2 has had the stronger performances. 57% on DOOM and struggling with Bloodborne doesnt really impress me. Meanwhile, Mass Effect hasnt had any problems with decent competition, and has even had to weather the storm with rallying from other matches helping its opponents. Itll be close, but ME2 should be able to hold up here.

Moltars Bracket: Mass Effect 2

Moltars Prediction: Mass Effect 2 53%

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transiences Analysis

I've been searching for answers on division 2 for the last couple of months and I just don't have any. I'll be happy to put it to rest and just admit that I was really wrong about it. Mass Effect 2 started out by really bombing against a Resident Evil game -- a game that has no good poll results and is best known as a VR game. It was a nice return to form after the tragedy that was RE6, but it's still not expected to be a strong game here. We don't do new games, but we especially don't do new games after a franchise has jumped the shark. ME2 still could only muster 63%, and maybe that's a fluke, but Resident Evil 2 is from the same franchise and is much higher regarded around here.

Mass Effect 2 turned around from that match and blew out Fallout 4 by a larger percentage, which makes no sense unless you just assume one of the results is fluky (likely the Fallout 4 match, but maybe not?). ME2 then had a reasonable result with 55% against Horizon, which is probably more like 57 or 58% without the rally.

RE2, on the other hand, pulled a similar percentage to ME2/Horizon against Doom. Doom 2016 isn't awful or anything -- it's one of the true highlights of single-player FPS gaming this decade -- but it shouldn't be that good vs. RE2, a classic in the eyes of this website. You have to make some assumptions, like people mixing up Doom 2016 with Doom 1993, to give it enough credit here. The Bloodborne match is impossible to judge for a number of well-documented reasons, but even without the rally, RE2/Bloodborne is still pretty close.

Going in to the contest, the strongest case for RE2 was its 2019 GOTY win over Fire Emblem and the field. Well, Fire Emblem as a series has looked real bad this contest and Xenoblade just crushed Three Houses. Sekiro didn't impress either. It's seeming like the 2019 field is just kind of weak?

It's tough to even pick a winner here. Heck, it's tough to even judge this match. This is a January 2010 game vs. a 2019 remake of a 1998 game. "Game of the Decade" feels like a misnomer. I think ME2 deserves favourite status here, both from its results and because it's actually a game kinda sorta released this decade. We just have to hope that RE7 result wasn't a sign of things to come.

transience's prediction: Mass Effect 2 with 52.15%

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Leonharts Analysis

This is one of the more hotly debated matches of the round and one where theres no clear favorite in many peoples eyes, so I think it might be handy to look at previous results for reference:

Mass Effect 2 vs. Resident Evil 7: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7923-division-2-round-1-mass-effect-2-vs-resident-evil-7

Shepard: Im Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite poll of the contest.

Are you sure? A lot of people werent very impressed with that one!

Mass Effect 2 vs. Fallout 4: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7983-division-2-round-2-mass-effect-2-vs-fallout-4

Shepard: Im Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite poll of the contest.

Now that makes more sense. This performance far exceeded most peoples expectations and restored confidence in the games chances of winning the division.

Mass Effect 2 vs. Horizon Zero Dawn: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/8013-division-2-semifinal-mass-effect-2-vs-horizon-zero-dawn

Shepard: Im Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite poll of the contest.

Yeah, yeah, we get it, we get it. Still, this result is a bit muddled by the two-hour delay and the RE2/Bloodborne rally fest that seemed to favor Horizon. Mass Effect 2 was doing a few percentage points better up to that point. Ive talked for a while about being a big believer in the strength of 2017 games, and Mass Effect 2 beat two of them thus far.

Now if youre expecting me to really beat the joke into the ground by posting Resident Evil 2 match results and having Leon Kennedy react to them, youre mistaken! I havent played an RE game before, so Ive got nothing to draw from there! Seriously though, RE2 has looked good up to this point, with a blowout win over Danganronpa 2, an Ulti-style destruction of DOOM, and surviving the Bloodborne rally. Now were just comparing results, and I honestly like Mass Effect 2s more. I think Id take Horizon Zero Dawn over DOOM or Fire Emblem: Awakening, and Im not convinced RE2 would indirectly get a bigger number on RE7 than ME2 did.

This is also an interesting matchup because youve got one of the oldest games remaining against one of the newest (being a remake of a 90s game aside!). We generally tend to skew old if all other things are equal, and I think Mass Effect 2 has a certain nostalgic value to it that will let us get past Resident Evil 2 here. Ive liked ME2 to win the division from the outset, and I havent really seen anything to decisively convince me otherwise, so Im going to stick with it.

Leonharts Vote: Mass Effect 2

Leonharts Prediction: Mass Effect 2 with 53.86%


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Kleenexs Analysis

Gah, I still have no idea which way to go on this one. Both games have waffled back and forth between looking pretty good and pretty mediocre, and I dont know which version of each will show up today. Lets try and go through them one by one and maybe I can convince myself to go one way or the other by the end.

Mass Effect 2

63% against Resident Evil 7 does not look particularly impressive, even now. Im still probably underrating that game, but theres only so high you can reasonably take it before youre really stretching. If we go with the assumption that RE7 is halfway decent, that elevates this from a bad performance to a mediocre one. Doubling Fallout 4, on the other hand, looked like a killer, division winning match. However, given the Great Indie Flop of Round 2, that Fallout result on V looks a lot less impressive than it did round 1. So maybe that doubling of Fallout 4 isnt a monster performance, and merely a good one. Finally, 55% on Horizon. I think this also falls into the good category. Personally, Im still skeptical on Horizon. The Fortnite match can be thrown out because Fortnite is a joke, and I really dont think that Borderlands match looks all that great from Horizon. Mass Effects Round 3 feels pretty medium in that context. Combining all three of those, I think ME2 has generally looked fine, but absolutely beatable against the right opponent. Is RE2 the right opponent? Lets see.

Resident Evil 2

83% against Dragon Grandpa seems pretty darn good on paper. That game is total fodder though, and weve seen that even weak entries this year have been capable of absolutely decimating tremendously weak opponents, so its tough to glean too much info from this match. 57% against DOOM in Round 2 didnt exactly leave me impressed. Maybe Im horrendously underrating DOOM (again, its first round against INSIDE really doesnt mean anything) but it doesnt feel like a game thats going to be that strong here. Did it get by just through name recognition? Maybe, thats possible. Either way, I didnt get strong, division winning vibes off RE2 after this match. Finally, last round we saw it barely squeak by Bloodborne. How strong is Bloodborne? Probably better than I was giving it credit for pre-contest, but also - lets look at that Fire Emblem match for a second. It was getting 54-55% before the rally started. That should raise a red flag because heres the dark secret people seem to be unwilling to admit - Fire Emblem sucks. The games have always underperformed, and even after the series exploded in popularity again last year, Three Houses still managed to shit the bed. That match doesnt make Bloodborne look very good in my eyes, and by extension, casts a shadow on RE2 given it could only go 50/50 with it.

In my mind, thats the most damning part. Ive been thoroughly whelmed by ME2 thus far, but that Fire Emblem match has me very much doubting the ceiling for the bottom half of this division. And thus, even though it puts the final nail in the coffin of my Guru bracket, I think this means that ME2 is going to limp its way to another mediocre win, securing its spot as Zeldas punching bag in the next round.

Kleenexs Prediction: Mass Effect 2 with 51.75%

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Guests Analysis ctes

Today's match have had us split since before the contest. Guru's favored ME2 but not by all too much. Then first round happened (if you have forgotten how that went, go back up and read Moltar's analysis) and most peoples seemed to favor ME2 not making it out of the division again, even considering its chances against Fallout 4, because RE7 was awful in those GotY polls. Next thing is ME2 destroying Fallout 4 putting its chances up there again. ME2 went on to beat Horizon with little trouble clearing showing us how much those GotY polls were worth (Horizon and RE7 shared them) and we're back to scratch basically.

If you believe RE7 overperformed there and it is due to some Resident Evil boost with the remakes being much more well regarded than anything since 4, then that could mean good things for RE2, but it's not like RE2 has looked way past its GotY strength, perhaps because it created said boost itself before the polls, or perhaps because they really do mean close to nothing, so I think it's clear we just underestimated RE7. Franchise name probably means something in these things, in particular when you're forced to vote in four matches. RE7 was not in a spot to take the most advantage of it, because everyone knows Mass Effect, but seeing as Resident Evil is from a time where we played games I could still see it happening there. No big name franchises has lost all too big. I'm sure we'd see it more if the bracket hadn't limited entries per series.

Back to the match at hand, taking RE2 to win here was always a good upset late round upset pick. Look at how RE2 dealt with a rallied Bloodborne and how the latter there beat Awakening even before rallies. ME2 is projected to easily win those two matches in 2015, with ~55% for Awakening and ~58% for Bloodborne, but how at how much stronger Bloodborne was now. Even if you believe ME2 is undervalued in the 2015 x-stats, you can also believe Andromeda hurt the name. RE2 took care of a rallied Bloodborne, so it's certainly within striking distance. Furthermore, the original Resident Evil 2 was in 2015 and is projected to beat Awakening with less than RE2 beat Three Houses. We've been through GotY polls, but certainly a 1v1 poll is worth more than a 10-way poll and I just want to state that the upset is clearly possible and shouldn't surprise anyone.

I'm not rolling with it though. Look at how the other 2019 games fared, I honestly think they're hurt by their recency. RE2 probably less so because it's a remake, but still. I don't really think Three Houses is too much stronger than Awakening either, the biggest argument that it should be probably being console vs handheld. But Awakening is from a time where Fire Emblem was well regarded to some extend, the game that
saved the niche franchise brought to light in Smash. Speaking of Smash it added a female clone and a unique character, no one had anything against Fire Emblem then. Fast forward and the Nintendo fanbase it
certainly a bit tired of Fire Emblem exposure, and this was also before Byleth, otherwise that wouldn't have exploded them as much. All that should hurt Three Houses more than Awakening and at least recency certainly does. What additional votes RE2 might get from people that play little to no recent games but didn't in 1998 shouldn't matter as much here. ME2 is from around the final days where we still tried out new games.

Finally, picking ME2 here just feels right. That's very vague, so I'll try to explain. We're having a Game of the Decade contest here. ME2 is mentioned in Game of the Decade talks, it's up there, it's the higher
seed and it was a huge deal back when it came out. These things matter here. Respect votes are a thing.

Mass Effect 2 - 54.57%
Resident Evil 2 - 45.43%

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Crew Consensus: Mass Effect 2 is the right choice here.

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Leonhart4 posted...

Bastion can blow out Edith Finch and DQXI not be any stronger than FFXV!

How so? Just plain old non-transitivity?

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DoctorJimmy133 posted...

How so? Just plain old non-transitivity?

When we reach levels of fodder, sometimes things don't really matter that much.

IIRC the prime example of this being that constant KOS-MOS showed Luigi would beat Tifa pretty easily in 2005.

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Oh dear Crew Curse alert

I do feel strangely confident in ME2 for a match that should theoretically be pretty close though

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we cursin boys

WarThaNemesis2 posted...

When we reach levels of fodder, sometimes things don't really matter that much.

IIRC the prime example of this being that constant KOS-MOS showed Luigi would beat Tifa pretty easily in 2005.

you have this backwards. Tifa looked like she could win the contest after round 1.


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Yeah, we were half convinced that Tifa and Vincent were acting as Cloud and Seph proxies since they had been removed from the contest and Tifa only did a little worse on Vyse than Cloud had the year before.

Which is the best argument for not trusting too much in fodder blowouts right there!

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This sure seems like a curse.

transcience posted...

you have this backwards. Tifa looked like she could win the contest after round 1.

And what a wonderful timeline that works be. Hoping FF7R boost her to beat some more NN'ers.

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transcience posted...

we cursin boys

you have this backwards. Tifa looked like she could win the contest after round 1.

Yeah, but Tifa SFFed Vyse. Luigi almost doubled a character he was a near-equal to!

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Master Moltar posted...

Now if youre expecting me to really beat the joke into the ground by posting Resident Evil 2 match results and having Leon Kennedy react to them, youre mistaken!

Sad, Leon Kennedy is the king of cheesy action movie lines.

http://oraclechallenge.com/archives.php?contest=SC2k5&type=match&match=46

Tifas r2 performance was actually a pretty big underperformance by expectations. we were all targeting Sonic after round 1.

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WarThaNemesis2 posted...

When we reach levels of fodder, sometimes things don't really matter that much.

IIRC the prime example of this being that constant KOS-MOS showed Luigi would beat Tifa pretty easily in 2005.

So just plain old non-transitivity then.

Even so, a lot of people thought FFXV-Hollow Knight would be close based on the fact that the FFXV-Edith wasn't impressive enough in retrospect of all the indie executions in R1, and they were correct. And FFXV disappointed yet again the following round. There's been no such stink around any of DQ11's performances yet.

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WarThaNemesis2 posted...

Yeah, but Tifa SFFed Vyse. Luigi almost doubled a character he was a near-equal to!

Yeah, it's weird to think there was ever a time people would have taken KOS-MOS > Luigi

But yeah, the Luigi result felt like way more of an outlier than the Tifa one did, so she was still the big favorite.

Luigi had a hilarious match pic though

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thats just life pre-Boost. the gap between 2004 and 2005 Mario characters is just immense.

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transcience posted...

thats just life pre-Boost. the gap between 2004 and 2005 Mario characters is just immense.

Nobody has gained more than Luigi for whatever the reason though. He went from being a clear third in the Luigi/Bowser/Yoshi trio to potentially being #1 now.

We do need to see those three face off again sometime.

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Tifa didn't SFF Vyse. Vyse was just a stronger character before the 2k5 site shift. Long gone are the days where he gets 37% on DK.

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You love to see the crew curse on that last one.

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UltimaterializerX posted...

What's the crew curse?

When the entire Crew picks the same winner on a debated match
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Part of me is hoping for the curse because it keeps me alive in the guru.

But then Im just going to die tomorrow instead so whats the difference really.

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Ive had a pretty horrible contest but Ive yet to be up for guru elimination and am even eliminating people somehow

in other words woo mario


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Zelda is mortal

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DQXI is legit, who knew

I know BOTW's board vote has been horrendous and it could get up to near a tripling by the end of this but yeah
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wow not bad dragon quest, this will rise to heaven but still.

I have a hard time feeling any kind of way with division 2 - pretty much par for the course with that division.

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Alright Leon hit me with the important stat

What does dq11 get on ff15

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The Mana Sword posted...

Alright Leon hit me with the important stat

What does dq11 get on ff15

31%

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this reminds me of ocarina/ff9

edit: too bad theres no chrono trigger equivalent

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The Mana Sword posted...

Alright Leon hit me with the important stat

What does dq11 get on ff15

Currently 68.61%
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yeah I think ME2 is safe
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these xstats are going to be a trip, especially if me2 rises any more. horizon second in the division sure

might be time to look at xenoblade just a little bit more critically

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more like might be time to look at Persona 5 > Witcher 3

2017 the year of the decade
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god bravely default crushing FFXV would have been the funniest upset

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I'm honestly not sure what bearing today has on Xenoblade

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