Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1329

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HaRRicH
03/27/20 8:45:36 PM
#403:


Advokaiser posted...
I'm gradually feeling worse and worse about picking Sonic Mania > Super Meat Boy, lol.

My boy's gonna be super strong.

Super Meat Boy > Sonic Mania is my upset special this bracket. Gotta beliiiiieeeeeve.

MechanicalWall posted...
Bastion and Transistor are both meh

Pyre is amazing and somehow the least played of those three

Haven't played Pyre, but Bastion >> Transistor (never could get its mechanics down well).

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LeonhartFour
03/27/20 8:45:47 PM
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BlAcK TuRtLe
03/27/20 8:45:55 PM
#405:


Oh wow, I had no idea the board favoured TWD so much here. I thought it was universally understood that Telltale games are fucking trash and noone likes them

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hylianknight3
03/27/20 8:45:56 PM
#406:


Still dead, no longer walking

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Team Rocket Elite
03/27/20 8:45:57 PM
#407:


The_Ctes posted...


I mean I think that was proved yesterday, but I wouldn't put it past TWD to simply have flopped horribly.


We've seen TWD before. It was never strong:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6070-best-game-ever-day-5-uncharted-2-vs-the-walking-dead

Bastion going even with TWD still means Bastion is weak. It just means it was strong enough to win.
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OrangeCrush980
03/27/20 8:46:16 PM
#408:


Sweet Jesus

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Thenenen
03/27/20 8:46:25 PM
#409:


BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Oh wow, I had no idea the board favoured TWD so much here. I thought it was universally understood that Telltale games are fucking trash and noone likes them
The idea was that people would be voting for the TV show, not just the game.

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The_Ctes
03/27/20 8:47:09 PM
#411:


Hbthebattle posted...
so who's up for Cuphead > GTAV or VVVVVV > Fallout 4 now

Again, would you give TWD a chance against GTAV or Fallout 4?

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Advokaiser
03/27/20 8:47:33 PM
#412:


Bastion added to Steam's Wishlist.



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OmegaFlare18
03/27/20 8:47:53 PM
#413:


Bastion?

BASTION?!
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MechanicalWall
03/27/20 8:48:57 PM
#414:


Keltiq posted...
I started and didn't finish Pyre due to life getting in the way, but isn't the gameplay basically just 3-on-3 hoops? The story seemed pretty solid, at least.

Meanwhile I must have beaten Bastion a dozen times and actually tried to speedrun it for a little bit. Transistor is similarly incredible.
I just really REALLY hated the 'lose ability on death' mechanic in Transistor. Like yah I'm getting my ass kicked, the last thing I need is to LOSE abilities.

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Team Rocket Elite
03/27/20 8:49:14 PM
#415:


BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Oh wow, I had no idea the board favoured TWD so much here. I thought it was universally understood that Telltale games are fucking trash and noone likes them


While true, Bastion's strength is also super bad. Just not quite bad enough.
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CaptainOfCrush
03/27/20 8:49:18 PM
#416:


Bastion is my shameful purge for every following such a garbage-time series like TWD. I even bracket voted for it. I needed this purification.

FUCK YOU CORAL

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OrangeCrush980
03/27/20 8:49:36 PM
#417:


Thenenen posted...
The idea was that people would be voting for the TV show, not just the game.

I mean I thought that TWD the game was a pretty big deal when it released and got a bunch of GotY awards? I get that Telltale went downhill after that, but TWD should be able to beat some random indie game on its own.

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tazzyboyishere
03/27/20 8:50:15 PM
#418:


Hey now, TWD S1 is amaing.

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TheCodeisBosco
03/27/20 8:51:01 PM
#420:


Well, props to everyone who had the massive balls to actually pick Bastion here.

That's one of the only games in the bracket I hadn't heard of prior, tbh. I expected TWD to lose a step, but I didn't think it'd bomb this badly.

I wasn't as down on Bravely Default as most, though, so I'm still feeling okay about Monster Hunter > Sekiro.

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BlAcK TuRtLe
03/27/20 8:51:08 PM
#421:


OrangeCrush980 posted...
I mean I thought that TWD the game was a pretty big deal when it released and got a bunch of GotY awards? I get that Telltale went downhill after that, but TWD should be able to beat some random indie game on its own.
I seem to recall people hating TWD for its lameness and episodic nature, while I recall Bastion being critically acclaimed and popular to the point where they put a Bastion voice pack in Dota 2

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VideoboysaysCube
03/27/20 8:51:48 PM
#422:


Welp, TWD is going to cost me my first point. Completely forgot that Telltale games suck really bad on this site. But I also blame my bias, as I'm actively playing through the game for the first time (and enjoying it). Oh well. I can't be mad because Bastion is a good game too.

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Thenenen
03/27/20 8:52:28 PM
#423:


UltimaterializerX posted...
I know Ive been mister happy positive lately, but I cannot defend TWD people. This is such a good result if it holds.
Oh boy. From the guy who brought us "X game that lost is the worst game ever" comes "X TV show tied to a game that lost is the worst TV show ever". Available soon on your local contest wiki.

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lordjers
03/27/20 8:52:28 PM
#424:


If TWD falls then i'll just be left with 2 games to care about in this contest.

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BlAcK TuRtLe
03/27/20 8:53:08 PM
#425:


Can we talk about how strong DQ11 is here? I thought it was going to struggle with Bastion, where the hell did this strength come from? Who gives a rat fuck about Dragon Quest in 2020?

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Gall
03/27/20 8:53:37 PM
#426:


Bastion is one of two games that I nominated that I was most (pleasantly) surprised to see make the bracket. I'm so happy it's making a match of this.

(Talos Principle > God of War, anyone? No?)
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LadyVyxx
03/27/20 8:54:14 PM
#427:


BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Can we talk about how strong DQ11 is here? I thought it was going to struggle with Bastion, where the hell did this strength come from? Who gives a rat fuck about Dragon Quest in 2020?

Everyone in the west who has slowly realized that DQ has always been superior to FF. Now with FFXV vs DQXI it's just painfully obvious
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KamikazePotato
03/27/20 8:54:31 PM
#428:


In fact I think you can group the indie games in this contest into three distinct groups: the early hits, the modern classics, and the Just Happy To Be Here. The early hits wouldn't make nearly as a big a splash if they came out today, but they gained notoriety for being good games that helped put Indie Games as a whole on the map. The modern classics are indie games that managed to stand out among the veritable ocean of indie games out right now, and thus have really strong fanbases. This group will overall be the strongest. The Just Happy To Be Here games are good and relatively popular, but they aren't as well-regarded as the Modern Classics and don't have the nostalgic edge of the Early Hits. They might've taken the indie scene by storm back at the start of the decade, but there's just too many options nowadays. They're the weak link.

Early Hits:
Bastion
VVVVVV
Binding of Isaac
Super Meat Boy

Modern Classics:
Cuphead
Hollow Knight
Life is Strange
INSIDE
Undertale
Shovel Knight
Stardew Valley
Journey
Celeste

Just Happy To Be Here:
Edith Finch
Baba Is You
FTL: Faster Than Light
Return of the Obra Dinn
The Stanley Parable
Slay the Spire
Hotline Miami
Dead Cells
Terraria
Subnautica
Crypt of the NecroDancer
Night in the Woods

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MoogleKupo141
03/27/20 8:54:55 PM
#429:


TheCodeisBosco posted...
Well, props to everyone who had the massive balls to actually pick Bastion here.

That's one of the only games in the bracket I hadn't heard of prior, tbh. I expected TWD to lose a step, but I didn't think it'd bomb this badly.

I wasn't as down on Bravely Default as most, though, so I'm still feeling okay about Monster Hunter > Sekiro.

youd never heard of Bastion? Fuck, play Bastion! Its still probably my favorite indie game almost ten years later

im so mad at myself, I totally had Bastion originally then got convinced to switch by the board. I figured maybe my pick was biased by my love of the game. oh well

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Hbthebattle
03/27/20 8:54:59 PM
#430:


BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Can we talk about how strong DQ11 is here? I thought it was going to struggle with Bastion, where the hell did this strength come from? Who gives a rat fuck about Dragon Quest in 2020?

Have you been living under a rock this year?
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Lightning Strikes
03/27/20 8:55:13 PM
#431:


TWD has a 94 on Metacritic, high GameFAQs rating, won the most GotY awards that year including the VGAs, and did well in the GotY polls. It didnt look like a disaster in 2015 either.

However, the brand has crashed since then, and seasons of the game after the first were not nearly as good. Then there is the Telltale implosion which will still be fresh in peoples minds. Nobody likes it, yeah right. It was a revelation when it came out.

However, Bastion seems more legit than expected. RIP The Walking Dead, there goes bracket

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guffguy89
03/27/20 8:55:31 PM
#432:


I'm a little bummed its TWD that gets the first upset potentially. I liked that game.

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CaptainOfCrush
03/27/20 8:55:34 PM
#433:


Meanwhile, DQ is out here flipping the defiant bird to Witcher 3, Skyrim, Dark Souls, the lot of em - like they dodged one helluva bullet.

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MechanicalWall
03/27/20 8:56:00 PM
#434:


Gall posted...
Bastion is one of two games that I nominated that I was most (pleasantly) surprised to see make the bracket. I'm so happy it's making a match of this.

(Talos Principle > God of War, anyone? No?)
Talos Principle and Edith Finch are the kinds of indie games people are thinking of when they say 'lol indies'. Stuff like Hollow Knight and Undertale are very clearly in a different tier.

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LadyVyxx
03/27/20 8:56:05 PM
#435:


If you thought HK was strong wait til Cuphead or Celeste show up (as far as indies go)

The sad part is Dead Cells is an absolute masterpiece and I have a feeling it will have a horrendous performance
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Whiskey_Nick
03/27/20 8:58:00 PM
#436:


Telltale TWD Season 1 is a fucking all time classic. One of the only games to ever make me cry

the series did not stay that good in following seasons for sure, but man what is this hate. Also tying the show to the game makes very little sense, they completely different.

I love the show, but I 100% get people not liking it.

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Lightning Strikes
03/27/20 8:58:07 PM
#437:


Also Life is Strange isnt remotely indie, its by a big studio and published by Square. >_>

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Team Rocket Elite
03/27/20 8:58:30 PM
#438:


Lightning Strikes posted...
TWD has a 94 on Metacritic, high GameFAQs rating, won the most GotY awards that year including the VGAs, and did well in the GotY polls. It didnt look like a disaster in 2015 either.


No, TWD was awful in 2015.

Bottom of the X-Stats:
Life is Strange - 12.39768012
Destiny - 12.2388359
The Walking Dead - 12.0129552
Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors - 10.71640237
Virtue's Last Reward - 10.26668271
Cave Story - 9.809224
Hearthstone - 8.2524

5th last. Outranked by Destiny.
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KamikazePotato
03/27/20 8:58:33 PM
#439:


I guess I should add Talos Principle to the 'Just Happy To Be Here' list? I actually have no idea what it is and I know basically everything in this bracket.

Disco Elysium I excluded because a game that won as many awards as it really doesn't deserve to be in a tier called 'Just Happy To Be Here' but on GameFAQs it's not going to do so great.

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Thenenen
03/27/20 8:58:41 PM
#440:


Lightning Strikes posted...
Also Life is Strange isnt remotely indie, its by a big studio and published by Square. >_>
Feels like an indie game, though, with how it revolves around some lesbian chick.

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TheCodeisBosco
03/27/20 8:58:51 PM
#441:


To be fair to Ulti, TWD might actually have the worst fandom of all time. I swear they've been complaining about the show "going downhill" and "jumping the shark" since episode 2...

(Other contenders for "worst fanbase" include Super Smash Bros., Star Wars and Playboi Carti.)

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03/27/20 8:58:52 PM
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HaRRicH
03/27/20 8:58:54 PM
#443:


TWD is probably stronger in a Game of the Decade-sense -- it truly reinvented point-and-click games and tied cinema to gameplay in an influential way. I predict it's stronger in this contest than it was when it faced UC4.

Also though, yes, TWD was always going to be weak based off its 2012-GotY showings.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4960-best-of-2012-game-of-the-year

Fourth place in a poll featuring likely our weakest GotY winner this contest isn't inspiring. I just didn't count on Bastion here and didn't think it would get influential credit in the same way. Whoops!

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LeonhartFour
03/27/20 8:59:14 PM
#444:


no one knows what genre or classification anything is anymore

we can't even agree on what an RPG is now...!
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MoogleKupo141
03/27/20 8:59:23 PM
#445:


BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
I seem to recall people hating TWD for its lameness and episodic nature, while I recall Bastion being critically acclaimed and popular to the point where they put a Bastion voice pack in Dota 2

people loved the first season of the walking dead game. Without the success of that game we wouldnt have the 100 other telltale series people dont really care about

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KamikazePotato
03/27/20 9:00:38 PM
#447:


Star Wars is the king of bad fanbases and no one can convince me otherwise

Life is Strange has always been treated like an indie game by people, at least from what I've seen, but if it doesn't belong on the list then sure whatever

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ZeldaTPLink
03/27/20 9:01:31 PM
#448:


TheCodeisBosco posted...
To be fair to Ulti, TWD might actually have the worst fandom of all time. I swear they've been complaining about the show "going downhill" and "jumping the shark" since episode 2...

(Other contenders for "worst fanbase" include Super Smash Bros., Star Wars and Playboi Carti.)

I'm trying to think of a worst fandom than Star Wars by my brain just gives me a 404 Not Found.
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BlAcK TuRtLe
03/27/20 9:01:42 PM
#449:


TheCodeisBosco posted...
To be fair to Ulti, TWD might actually have the worst fandom of all time. I swear they've been complaining about the show "going downhill" and "jumping the shark" since episode 2...

(Other contenders for "worst fanbase" include Super Smash Bros., Star Wars and Playboi Carti.)
I dunno, if yesterday is any indication, LiS fans and Fails fans may take that particular cake

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Advokaiser
03/27/20 9:01:43 PM
#450:


I can't believe Bastion is strong enough to avoid a doubling of Uncharted 2.

The game might have some strength.

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MechanicalWall
03/27/20 9:02:06 PM
#452:


Disco Elysium would be in a lot better shape if it had home console releases right now.

If Hollow Knight stayed a PC exclusive it wouldn't have beaten Berseria

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