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GuessMyUserName
03/15/20 7:56:24 PM
#251:


https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1239064032893718528

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UshiromiyaEva
03/15/20 7:57:39 PM
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red13n
03/15/20 7:58:22 PM
#253:


can we postpone all the Tuesday primaries already?

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Wanglicious
03/15/20 8:09:01 PM
#254:


this debate might as well not be about ANYTHING ELSE.
the entire nation is going to be a one issue voter.


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Suprak the Stud
03/15/20 8:09:10 PM
#255:


Joe BIden 2020

"Sorry I see my time is up."

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xp1337
03/15/20 8:16:10 PM
#256:


Sorry if some of this came up already but:

Trump literally tweeted out that he's considering a full pardon for Flynn today in the middle of a pandemic. Along with the already posted "but her emails" tweet and hypocritically attacking Schumer for comments made a while back.

In better news: Biden announced he's adopting some of Sanders's plan for free college by making public college and universities free for families making less than $125,000 after adopting Warren's idea that allow student debt to be discharged in bankruptcy.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/15/20 8:16:51 PM
#257:


Biden literally can't say anything other than "this is a crisis" on repeat 800 times in a row.
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Xeybozn
03/15/20 8:17:16 PM
#258:


Biden: "Single-payer healthcare is the worst idea ever... Except for with this coronavirus thing, then it's great!"
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LordoftheMorons
03/15/20 8:18:45 PM
#259:


Xeybozn posted...
Biden: "Single-payer healthcare is the worst idea ever... Except for with this coronavirus thing, then it's great!"
I mean it's not a contradiction at all. Bailing out banks was an extremely good idea during the great recession but it wasn't a thing we would just do as a matter of course.

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red13n
03/15/20 8:18:57 PM
#260:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Biden literally can't say anything other than "this is a crisis" on repeat 800 times in a row.

He is right on this subject though, national emergency powers are pretty fucking broad, they can cover full cost for every single coronavirus related medical cost. M4A has nothing specifically to do with this emergency.

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Wanglicious
03/15/20 8:20:11 PM
#261:


i'm glad this debate is happening.
bernie is making sure that all the extra people affected by this get mentioned. emergency powers as is won't be everything, so if there's expansion, good.


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Wanglicious
03/15/20 8:22:53 PM
#262:


red13n posted...
He is right on this subject though, national emergency powers are pretty fucking broad, they can cover full cost for every single coronavirus related medical cost. M4A has nothing specifically to do with this emergency.

yeah, i agree with that.
but i also agree with bernie that it wouldn't cover everyone affected by this, which is why it's important to have these loose ends mentioned directly.

they could be, if remembered and kept broadly.

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red13n
03/15/20 8:24:48 PM
#263:


Wanglicious posted...
yeah, i agree with that.
but i also agree with bernie that it wouldn't cover everyone affected by this, which is why it's important to have these loose ends mentioned directly.

they could be, if remembered and kept broadly.
Anything not covered right now isn't the fault of the system, its the fault of the current administration.

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Suprak the Stud
03/15/20 8:24:55 PM
#264:


This is also why you don't keep pushing the "JOE BIDEN HAS DEMENTIA" nonsense btw because he is quite clearly doing "fine".

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Espeon
03/15/20 8:26:50 PM
#265:


Sanders keeps saying Ebola! He has dementia!!1!111!

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Xeybozn
03/15/20 8:27:19 PM
#266:


Sanders just referred to the current situation as the "Ebola virus" several times. Can we all agree he has dementia?
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UshiromiyaEva
03/15/20 8:30:40 PM
#267:


I can't deny that I no longer take issue with his mental state.

I now take issue with his adamant refusal to talk about the Healthcare system post-pandemic, and in fact keeps deflecting it repeatedly.
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LordoftheMorons
03/15/20 8:32:21 PM
#268:


Biden's totally on point about the bailouts.

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Wanglicious
03/15/20 8:33:14 PM
#269:


and... i think biden just narrowed down the scope of his argument to being the winning choice on this issue:

a revolutionary change on the system in a crisis like this cannot win, especially when there's a clear out the government has. biden wants military usage too too, so effectively wartime powers would be go and he's explicitly mentioned this as a wartime situation.

expansion of powers + using what's there vs. changing the system? people will overwhelmingly pick the former.


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Grimlyn
03/15/20 8:35:09 PM
#270:


an undocumented alien

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UshiromiyaEva
03/15/20 8:37:34 PM
#271:


Biden nodding his head in approval when Bernie talked about shutting down ICE is literally the first time I have ever considered him decent.
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HeroDelTiempo17
03/15/20 8:38:15 PM
#272:


this question has big "please reassure the american public about you two being old as shit" energy

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red13n
03/15/20 8:38:42 PM
#273:


This debate is definitely going to continue to be tame and boring. Race is over.

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Wanglicious
03/15/20 8:40:54 PM
#274:


well yeah, biden's not just competent, he's coming off really well.
all that said, bernie's biggest job is rolling his ideas into biden's policy.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/15/20 8:42:45 PM
#275:


Biden: "Who gives a shit about the future, all that matters is right now"

The politics that have resulted in the shit situation happening today in the first place.

And people are wondering if Biden's gonna flip on environmental protection, lol.
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Suprak the Stud
03/15/20 8:43:17 PM
#276:


Yeah this is even stronger than his SC debate.

Grumble grumble.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/15/20 8:43:29 PM
#277:


What an asshole.
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red13n
03/15/20 8:43:40 PM
#278:


They are both clearly preparing for the inevitable here.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/15/20 8:45:03 PM
#279:


What the fuck were you trying to do there, Joe?

"You have 9 superpacs, Bernie."

"Name one??"

"Cmoooooooon"
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HeroDelTiempo17
03/15/20 8:45:46 PM
#280:


go to the youtube right now

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UshiromiyaEva
03/15/20 8:46:42 PM
#281:


Biden falling apart when he realized he can get fact checked.
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Wanglicious
03/15/20 8:47:21 PM
#282:


grilling him on social security is correct.


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Espeon
03/15/20 8:47:26 PM
#283:


Bernie comes across like an asshole here.

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StealThisSheen
03/15/20 8:47:48 PM
#284:


Bernie DOES have super pacs, though. All super pacs are not equal, obviously, but it's a factual statement.

Well, maybe. Not sure if it's 9. But either way, an outright denial isn't a great look.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/15/20 8:48:30 PM
#285:


"I've never voted on social security"

???
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ChaosTonyV4
03/15/20 8:48:44 PM
#286:


Bernie is massively disappointing me by sticking to his usual speeches, but Joe looks 20 years older than Bernie up there, how is he coming off "really well" to anyone?

I don't think Bernie's getting it done, but Biden looks pathetic.

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LordoftheMorons
03/15/20 8:48:54 PM
#287:


Our Revolution is a dark money group. Not sure how many others there are.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/15/20 8:50:00 PM
#288:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Bernie is massively disappointing me by sticking to his usual speeches, but Joe looks 20 years older than Bernie up there, how is he coming off "really well" to anyone?

I don't think Bernie's getting it done, but Biden looks pathetic.

When Biden gets angry he absolute fucking collapses. He has zero cool.
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red13n
03/15/20 8:50:41 PM
#289:


Even when they are fighting they are both backing off from really digging in.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/15/20 8:52:12 PM
#290:


He almost called Bernie "The President", lol.
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Nelson_Mandela
03/15/20 8:52:15 PM
#291:


NYC is shut down. Schools closed. State of emergency.

Alternate side parking? Still fucking on.

This is exactly what I am talking about. Authoritarian mandatory closures unless it affects tax collection.

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ChaosTonyV4
03/15/20 8:53:13 PM
#292:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
When Biden gets angry he absolute fucking collapses. He has zero cool.

literally a symptom of dementia

<_<

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Espeon
03/15/20 8:54:33 PM
#293:


Im sorry, but as weak as this showing is, Biden still comes across better than Bernie has tonight for me.

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ChaosTonyV4
03/15/20 8:55:24 PM
#294:


Espeon posted...
Im sorry, but as weak as this showing is, Biden still comes across better than Bernie has tonight for me.

We know.

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/15/20 8:55:26 PM
#295:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Our Revolution is a dark money group. Not sure how many others there are.

Sunrise has similar or the same rules as Our Revolution (they're somewhere in between PACs and supers iirc), and he has at least one union superPAC backing him too. These groups aren't really pulling in the same amounts of money as other, MUCH larger superPACs.

Those are the only 3 I know of though, I dunno where the number 9 comes from. I've never seen a breakdown on that claim, either. Joe should have listed them for us!

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UshiromiyaEva
03/15/20 8:57:10 PM
#296:


Bernie really hammering in the point that Biden has absolutely no vision for the future and only acts to fix the now. Biden has repeatedly talked about fixing bills and acts that he voted on in the first place.
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UshiromiyaEva
03/15/20 8:57:31 PM
#297:


Espeon posted...
Im sorry, but as weak as this showing is, Biden still comes across better than Bernie has tonight for me.

You've said it 3 times.
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Wanglicious
03/15/20 8:58:17 PM
#298:


how the hell did bernie just collapse his argument JUST because of guns?
you started this argument and can't stand by the gun record?


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red13n
03/15/20 8:58:17 PM
#299:


These two old dudes are too nice we should have let in Tulsi.

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StealThisSheen
03/15/20 8:58:56 PM
#300:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
You've said it 3 times.

What's up Pot

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