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UshiromiyaEva
03/15/20 8:59:15 PM
#301:


At least I spread it!
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StealThisSheen
03/15/20 9:00:15 PM
#302:


I know, I just couldn't help myself.

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Wanglicious
03/15/20 9:01:19 PM
#303:


hey, Tulsi specifically is pushing for an emergency UBI stimulus package to deal with coronavirus and that would've been awesome to see on stage too.

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red13n
03/15/20 9:02:40 PM
#304:


Wanglicious posted...
hey, Tulsi specifically is pushing for an emergency UBI stimulus package to deal with coronavirus and that would've been awesome to see on stage too.
They need someone to dunk on. Even when they fight both are having a competition on who can praise the other more.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/15/20 9:04:44 PM
#305:


I have to stop watching for outside reasons.

Honestly doesn't seem like this will move the needle at all. I still hate Biden and think he's a lying asshole. Don't see that changing in the next hour regardless of what they say!
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TheRock1525
03/15/20 9:05:24 PM
#306:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
At least I spread it!
You should be doing the opposite right now.

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red13n
03/15/20 9:05:57 PM
#307:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
I have to stop watching for outside reasons.

Honestly doesn't seem like this will move the needle at all. I still hate Biden and think he's a lying asshole. Don't see that changing in the next hour regardless of what they say!
Bernie has literally spent at least 15 minutes in this debate saying we have to beat Trump at all costs. Apparently you think he is a liar as well.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/15/20 9:06:12 PM
#308:


TheRock1525 posted...
You should be doing the opposite right now.

The English language is a mess.
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MoogleKupo141
03/15/20 9:06:51 PM
#309:


https://twitter.com/austin_walker/status/1239356130427572231?s=21
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Inviso
03/15/20 9:08:54 PM
#310:


Welp, Bernie just lost ExTha's support.

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red13n
03/15/20 9:10:24 PM
#311:


...did Biden promise Warren VP?

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Wanglicious
03/15/20 9:12:05 PM
#312:


no, there's other women out there.
Stacey Abrams has been a name pitched for a while and one of the most likely people.

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red13n
03/15/20 9:13:15 PM
#313:


Wanglicious posted...
no, there's other women out there.

There are, but we know the two camps have been at the very least talking rather extensively.

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Suprak the Stud
03/15/20 9:17:02 PM
#314:


This is the feistiest the debate has been yet!

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ChaosTonyV4
03/15/20 9:27:31 PM
#315:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
https://twitter.com/austin_walker/status/1239356130427572231?s=21

lmao I can't believe Joe tried to do this, how did he not have a better answer than this?

This is a Bloomberg-level shit answer.

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Suprak the Stud
03/15/20 9:30:36 PM
#316:


I don't think this moves polling numbers at all. "You're doing ok stuff but not enough!" isn't going to really to sway opinion.

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DoomTheGyarados
03/15/20 9:33:57 PM
#317:


People who vote on policy are already more likely to vote Bernie ao I didnt bother with this debate.

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Suprak the Stud
03/15/20 9:35:53 PM
#318:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
People who vote on policy are already more likely to vote Bernie ao I didnt bother with this debate.

^

Sadly the only way at all (and even this was a longshot) for Bernie to get to where he needed to be was for Biden to have such a cataclysmic level of a bad debate that people lost faith in his ability to do anything.

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KamikazePotato
03/15/20 9:36:29 PM
#319:


Not watching the debate, but impression I'm getting from the topic is

Bernie supporters: "Bernie is winning on policy and is lying less."
Biden supporters: "Yeah, but Biden doesn't look terrible. Vote Biden 2020!"

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Grimlyn
03/15/20 9:36:47 PM
#320:


https://twitter.com/notdred/status/1239356264343310338

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RaidenGarai
03/15/20 9:39:30 PM
#321:


Grimlyn posted...
https://twitter.com/notdred/status/1239356264343310338
I don't think anything is beating this for tweet of the night

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/15/20 9:40:01 PM
#322:


how are we STILL on this cuba shit

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Suprak the Stud
03/15/20 9:40:18 PM
#323:


Bernie I love you but please be smart politically and just go "Cuba bad" or "China bad" without the buts. Please. Please.

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/15/20 9:44:27 PM
#324:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Bernie I love you but please be smart politically and just go "Cuba bad" or "China bad" without the buts. Please. Please.

yeah even though the question irritates me, I do have to say Bernie is not good at getting his point across here

We can understand that these countries are authoritarian but our position as a world power requires politicians to be diplomatic with them. Just SAY that as the main point instead of meandering around with the "well bad people do good things sometimes tho"

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Grimlyn
03/15/20 9:45:17 PM
#325:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Bernie I love you but please be smart politically and just go "Cuba bad" or "China bad" without the buts. Please. Please.
it's depressing knowing that Bernie's statements here are completely right but........ oof so detrimental

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ChaosTonyV4
03/15/20 9:46:01 PM
#326:


https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1239365270772293632?s=21

The fact that theyre constantly badgering Bernie with this shit is absurd and shows you what hes up against.

https://twitter.com/byyourlogic/status/1239365934193795076?s=21

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1239366146006147073?s=21

Bernies gonna lose this shit because hes trying to play by the rules of a fair and honest system. Bernie get nasty you fuck

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DoomTheGyarados
03/15/20 9:49:08 PM
#327:


Getting nasty wouldn't matter and it would violate his personal beliefs. Bernie being a good guy is perhaps why he wont and should be president.

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Suprak the Stud
03/15/20 9:49:37 PM
#328:


Grimlyn posted...
it's depressing knowing that Bernie's statements here are completely right but........ oof so detrimental

I'm not even saying he's wrong! Just...be smart. This is such a softball.

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Wanglicious
03/15/20 9:50:34 PM
#329:


bernie callin' all you youngins out.


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Grimlyn
03/15/20 9:50:56 PM
#330:


Suprak the Stud posted...
I'm not even saying he's wrong! Just...be smart. This is such a softball.
to be fair I didn't expect Biden to go Jack the Ripper lmao

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Suprak the Stud
03/15/20 9:51:43 PM
#331:


Grimlyn posted...
to be fair I didn't expect Biden to go Jack the Ripper lmao

I'm desperate to know how he was going to finish that sentence because I couldn't hear it.

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red13n
03/15/20 9:52:25 PM
#332:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Getting nasty wouldn't matter and it would violate his personal beliefs. Bernie being a good guy is perhaps why he wont and should be president.

He was way nastier with Hillary.

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DoomTheGyarados
03/15/20 9:53:09 PM
#333:


red13n posted...
He was way nastier with Hillary.

More to be nasty about in fairness.

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Mr Lasastryke
03/15/20 9:54:04 PM
#334:


i disagree that bernie should be "wrong but smart politically."

the fact that he doesn't do this is the kind of thing that differentiates him from trump (and biden, probably).

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red13n
03/15/20 9:55:45 PM
#335:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1239366146006147073?s=21

They've both barely attacked each other.

This is as cordial a debate as we've had in my memory.

Maybe one of the sleepy Al Gore debates or something for something comparable.

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DoomTheGyarados
03/15/20 9:57:58 PM
#336:


Bernie understands the same thing I do: he has 0 chance of winning if his theory of young voter turn out was wrong.

It was wrong.

That was always his calculated risk. He has no path to the nomination. Now, just like in 2016, Bernie's most important goal is to ensure the American people are harmed as little as possible.


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Wanglicious
03/15/20 10:10:00 PM
#337:


i mean, i enjoyed it.
it ain't moving the needle on much and bernie was clearly signaling to joe what to do but the guy wasn't having it.


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ChaosTonyV4
03/15/20 10:10:01 PM
#338:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
That was always his calculated risk. He has no path to the nomination. Now, just like in 2016, Bernie's most important goal is to ensure the American people are harmed as little as possible.

I don't think that's his calculation, it's that Bernie is too nice to savage the only party who held even a flimsy olive branch out to him.

It's why the absurd attacks about him being "nasty and rude" are demented.

There is a distinct possibility that Joe wins 2020 and gets BTFO in 2024 because literally all his presidency offers is a "return to normalcy". In this case, the recoil candidate Republicans put up could be "Trump, but competent", which is 10x worse for the poor than "Trump, but an absolute buffoon".

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LordoftheMorons
03/15/20 10:12:29 PM
#339:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
I don't think that's his calculation, it's that Bernie is too nice to savage the only party who held even a flimsy olive branch out to him.

It's why the absurd attacks about him being "nasty and rude" are demented.

There is a distinct possibility that Joe wins 2020 and gets BTFO in 2024 because literally all his presidency offers is a "return to normalcy". In this case, the recoil candidate Republicans put up could be "Trump, but competent", which is 10x worse for the poor than "Trump, but an absolute buffoon".
Im not sure Trump but competent is actually worse when hes massively fucking up the response to a fucking pandemic

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DoomTheGyarados
03/15/20 10:13:08 PM
#340:


LordoftheMorons posted...


We know, LotM. We know!

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/15/20 10:16:08 PM
#341:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Im not sure Trump but competent is actually worse when hes massively fucking up the response to a fucking pandemic

I mean a competent nationalist leader would be a lot worse

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Mr Lasastryke
03/15/20 10:17:01 PM
#342:


"trump but competent"? no way, the republicans will go with kanye

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ChaosTonyV4
03/15/20 10:19:11 PM
#343:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Im not sure Trump but competent is actually worse when hes massively fucking up the response to a fucking pandemic

If they successfully outlaw abortion, cut social security, Medicare, and SNAP benefits, dismantle Department of education, the EPA, and more (all things theyve called for), is that worth it in exchange for maybe a better response to a once in a generation pandemic that can and must be executed by state governments anyway?

Please have some perspective here.

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DoomTheGyarados
03/15/20 10:19:35 PM
#344:


LotM meant what he said!

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StealThisSheen
03/15/20 10:20:20 PM
#345:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
If they successfully outlaw abortion, cut social security, Medicare, and SNAP benefits, dismantle Department of education, the EPA, and more (all things theyve called for), is that worth it in exchange for maybe a better response to a once in a generation pandemic that can and must be executed by state governments anyway?

Please have some perspective here.

That sounds like a republican's wet dream in general, not just another "Trump."

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/15/20 10:21:49 PM
#346:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
"trump but competent"? no way, the republicans will go with kanye

at least he'd abolish prisons!

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KamikazePotato
03/15/20 10:21:59 PM
#347:


An establishment Republican's wet dream is Trump getting the coronavirus and dying so they can martyr him and ensure re-election for Pence while also removing him as a problem

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UshiromiyaEva
03/15/20 10:23:19 PM
#348:


Like I said, I had to miss the second half.

Did Biden make any attempt whatsoever to disuade that he only lived in the right now and does not care about the future or laying any groundwork? That was the only real takeaway I got from him.
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StealThisSheen
03/15/20 10:24:07 PM
#349:


Do you actually care

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ChaosTonyV4
03/15/20 10:25:53 PM
#350:


StealThisSheen posted...
That sounds like a republican's wet dream in general, not just another "Trump."

I think the GOP is so radicalized right now, any Republican win in 2024 is going to be thatunless they are forced to shift slightly leftward by a blowout based on actual, POPULAR, progressive policywhich Joe has zero bonafides for.

A return to normalcy by the Dems doesnt shift the GOP leftward at all, its almost like resetting us back to 2012, politically.

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