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Wanglicious
03/09/20 12:19:04 AM
#401:


StealThisSheen posted...
If you search for "wuhan flu" and "coronavirus" on Google between January 1st and early February, you get almost the exact same dates, which are late January, so...

I'm not sure what you guys are arguing

i don't either!
his objection is literally that a top of my head guess is potentially off by a week and everything else is invalidated, however it's pushing two months instead, despite the fact that two months ago literally nobody was officially declared dead.

oh yeah, in terms of naming conventions, that WSJ article had this in it:

As for the virus itself, the International Committee on Taxonomy of Viruses is now dubbing it SARS-CoV-2 (for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2). The journal Science reports that the WHO isnt happy with that choice, with officials opting for the virus responsible for Covid-19 or the Covid-19 virus instead.

goddamn do scientists somehow suck with naming conventions.
Wuhan SARS, Wuhan Flu, Wuhan Virus, etc? easy to understand, thanks docs and people. there's some slang terms that came up here - Wu Flu i mentioned but i think shit like bat soup virus also existed around here. definitely is the time period when the bat soup memes hit though.

Coronavirus? technically accurate, still easy to understand, thanks docs and people.

SARS-CoV-2, Covid-19? what are you doing. especially that first one, how many hyphens do you need to suck the soul of this this.

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Corrik7
03/09/20 12:19:05 AM
#402:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1236864254545932288

I very much hope this CPAC incident drives Republican pressure on Trump to start taking this seriously.
Resetera is hoping that Donald Trump dies of the virus. *shrug*

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NFUN
03/09/20 12:20:59 AM
#403:


we still don't care about resetera

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Corrik7
03/09/20 12:22:04 AM
#404:


NFUN posted...
we still don't care about resetera
That's cool. Still your fellow liberals.

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Wanglicious
03/09/20 12:23:19 AM
#405:


you've always payed way too much attention to neo-neogaf. if you're gonna do that then just focus on the more amusing stuff - like the current data breach the admins are trying to cover up.

but to stay on topic there: it would definitely be good for republicans to take this thing more seriously. especially since it ain't going away in the warmer months.

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NFUN
03/09/20 12:23:56 AM
#406:


i'm not a liberal

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Corrik7
03/09/20 12:26:17 AM
#407:


Wanglicious posted...
you've always payed way too much attention to neo-neogaf. if you're gonna do that then just focus on the more amusing stuff - like the current data breach the admins are trying to cover up.

it would definitely be good for republicans to take this thing more seriously. especially since it ain't going away in the warmer months.
I must have missed something? Is that the thing from like a month ago where they banned someone for supposedly getting access to the internal stuff? Then it turned out they proved the moderator was sexist against asexual people or something? lol.

I find an odd fascination with resetera coupled with an intense satisfaction of how fast their news cycles are on both gaming and non gaming sides.

I go to NeoGaf too as a member (banned on resetera), but I barely end up posting there at all.

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ChaosTonyV4
03/09/20 12:32:39 AM
#408:


This shit has been explained to Corrik 100 times and he still doesnt get it.

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Wanglicious
03/09/20 12:33:22 AM
#409:


no i'm talking about the data breach on resetera (what i generally call neo neogaf) from the past couple days. usernames, passwords, emails, admins trying to hide it even as one of the people with the personal info posted on multiple different hacked accounts. this ain't the topic for it but it shouldn't take much effort to find the story on twitter.

for what it's worth, hope you ain't using the same password on that site as other ones.

edit: but yeah, going there is just trying to hurt yourself. that bubble doesn't represent much but they are fun to laugh at.

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LordoftheMorons
03/09/20 12:35:30 AM
#410:


MO/MS polls (same pollster that I posted before ST that caught a decent amount of the movement to Biden, though i think they're pretty new so they don't have a long track record):

https://twitter.com/DataProgress/status/1236858879675416576

Edit whoops, unfortunate slip up by me. *MS*, not *MI*!

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Corrik7
03/09/20 12:37:47 AM
#411:


Wanglicious posted...
no i'm talking about the data breach on resetera (what i generally call neo neogaf) from the past couple days. usernames, passwords, emails, admins trying to hide it even as one of the people with the personal info posted on multiple different hacked accounts. this ain't the topic for it but it shouldn't take much effort to find the story on twitter.

for what it's worth, hope you ain't using the same password on that site as other ones.
I made them delete all my user information off of their site under European data laws. We should make a ResetERA laugh thread though at some point. Anyways I just wanted to laugh at the Trump talk there for a second. And point out that all them bad apples that support Bernie aren't all Bernie supporters.

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ChaosTonyV4
03/09/20 12:53:25 AM
#412:


https://twitter.com/shhhenko/status/1236857844252594176?s=21

I lold

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KamikazePotato
03/09/20 1:31:08 AM
#413:


https://twitter.com/CompSocialSci/status/1236091350640201728

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pxlated
03/09/20 1:41:00 AM
#414:


KamikazePotato posted...
https://twitter.com/CompSocialSci/status/1236091350640201728


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ChaosTonyV4
03/09/20 3:47:01 AM
#415:




Trumps lazy attempt to coverup the coronavirus response might be annihilating his best economy ever, so maybe Joe really does have a chance.

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LordoftheMorons
03/09/20 4:30:46 AM
#416:


I really don't understand the notion that Joe would have no chance to win without assistance from a pandemic/recession. Weren't you also claiming that Trump was a terrible candidate in 2016 and anyone besides Hillary could have beaten him? I don't see how those two things square.

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ChaosTonyV4
03/09/20 4:36:55 AM
#417:


Its way more nuanced but tl;dr I think anyone who gives away the Trump is slimy card and gives Trump his Im an outsider defense loses to him, yes.

An objectively downward economy would subvert that, because Im the business guy is what keeps the Republicans who may find everything else about him distasteful in line.

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Suprak the Stud
03/09/20 4:54:30 AM
#418:


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2020/Mitchell_Poll_of_MI_Dem_Pres_Primary_Press_Release_3-8-20.pdf

Yeah we can call this one after Tuesday.

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VintageGin
03/09/20 4:58:50 AM
#419:


LordoftheMorons posted...
I really don't understand the notion that Joe would have no chance to win without assistance from a pandemic/recession. Weren't you also claiming that Trump was a terrible candidate in 2016 and anyone besides Hillary could have beaten him? I don't see how those two things square.

Incumbency advantage

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Corrik7
03/09/20 5:02:28 AM
#420:


Suprak the Stud posted...
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2020/Mitchell_Poll_of_MI_Dem_Pres_Primary_Press_Release_3-8-20.pdf

Yeah we can call this one after Tuesday.
Yeah, even the most ardent Bernie supporters knew he was done after super Tuesday was a massacre.

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Leafeon13N
03/09/20 5:13:36 AM
#421:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...


An objectively downward economy would subvert that, because Im the business guy is what keeps the Republicans who may find everything else about him distasteful in line.
The US actually looked like we might ride out or mitigate the downturn in the world economy but coronavirus and oil might just tank trump beyond recovery.

The Saudis giving Russia a big fuck off is interesting. Wondering if gas prices will follow or if they'll just gouge consumers for fun.
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ChaosTonyV4
03/09/20 5:14:06 AM
#422:


Suprak the Stud posted...
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2020/Mitchell_Poll_of_MI_Dem_Pres_Primary_Press_Release_3-8-20.pdf

Yeah we can call this one after Tuesday.


I will never forgive any of these people, especially Warren.

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ChaosTonyV4
03/09/20 5:17:00 AM
#423:


Corrik7 posted...
Yeah, even the most ardent Bernie supporters knew he was done after super Tuesday was a massacre.

I think a Warren endorsement with her ongoing support could have done something, but she clearly stands for nothing now.

Leafeon13N posted...
The US actually looked like we might ride out or mitigate the downturn in the world economy but coronavirus and oil might just tank trump beyond recovery.

The Saudis giving Russia a big fuck off is interesting. Wondering if gas prices will follow or if they'll just gouge consumers for fun.

Anecdotally, gas prices in my area are trending down to <$2, I paid $2.04 today.


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Corrik7
03/09/20 5:59:08 AM
#424:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
I think a Warren endorsement with her ongoing support could have done something, but she clearly stands for nothing now.
Zero chance. And she straight up knows this already. It is just a pointless endorsement to make at this point.

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Corrik7
03/09/20 6:01:57 AM
#425:


Leafeon13N posted...
The Saudis giving Russia a big fuck off is interesting. Wondering if gas prices will follow or if they'll just gouge consumers for fun.
Everything I have read is the opposite.

Saudi Arabia wanted to set quotas for production to keep prices normalized. Russia sees this as an opportunity to destroy US Shale/Fracking and is taking a shot at American Industry in this climate, thus refusing to agree to terms. In return, a pricing war is happening due to no agreement. Russia is below break even costs on oil at sub $10 a barrel, but are okay with it because they hope to KO the US industry and thus afterwards come out ahead.

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Reg
03/09/20 7:05:20 AM
#426:


Local news reporting that votes from 44 polling locations in Dallas County were straight up not counted last week, which is going to lead to a recount.

This isn't going to overturn the results of anything state-wide/national, but what the fuck
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LordoftheMorons
03/09/20 7:10:01 AM
#427:


Booker endorses Biden:
https://twitter.com/CoryBooker/status/1236971319822082048

I always really liked him; I probably would have considered supporting him over Joe had he ever looked viable.

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Dancedreamer
03/09/20 8:17:59 AM
#428:


https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2019-trump-or-biden-quotes-quiz/

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Corrik7
03/09/20 8:47:42 AM
#429:


Dancedreamer posted...
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2019-trump-or-biden-quotes-quiz/
12/15

Missed 3,5,7.

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Mr Lasastryke
03/09/20 8:51:57 AM
#430:


Corrik7 posted...
That's cool. Still your fellow liberals.

so...?

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Mr Lasastryke
03/09/20 8:53:05 AM
#431:


VintageGin posted...
Incumbency advantage

people keep saying this but does that really make such a big difference that biden is unable to beat trump without a global pandemic?

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LordoftheMorons
03/09/20 8:57:17 AM
#432:


https://twitter.com/kevinmkruse/status/1236992043412377606?s=21

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Dancedreamer
03/09/20 9:28:31 AM
#433:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
I will never forgive any of these people, especially Warren.

Warren's endorsement wouldn't give Bernie a win here. The Establishment would move everything it can to make sure Bernie didn't get the nomination. I imagine at that point they probably bring Obama in and get him to endorse Biden. Then its game over.

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Leafeon13N
03/09/20 9:47:43 AM
#434:


Don't worry everyone, everything you are hearing on TV is fake anyway. Everything is great.
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DoomTheGyarados
03/09/20 9:48:51 AM
#435:


Hi everyone. I just spent my weekend finishing a route in Fire Emblem: Three Houses (my first, great game but that story got weird at the end) and I am feeling better about everything.

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Leafeon13N
03/09/20 9:51:46 AM
#436:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Hi everyone. I just spent my weekend finishing a route in Fire Emblem: Three Houses (my first, great game but that story got weird at the end) and I am feeling better about everything.
Now you have to new game plus team yellow for the more complete not dumb story.

Or team blue if you want to relive Arthas' journey and get a less complete storyline.
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RaidenGarai
03/09/20 9:58:09 AM
#437:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Hi everyone. I just spent my weekend finishing a route in Fire Emblem: Three Houses (my first, great game but that story got weird at the end) and I am feeling better about everything.
Glad you're feeling better!

Three Houses is great, I played through the entire Blue route when I was supposed to lay in bed for the weekend after getting a vasectomy. Stopped the boredom from taking over

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DoomTheGyarados
03/09/20 9:58:38 AM
#438:


Leafeon13N posted...
Now you have to new game plus team yellow for the more complete not dumb story.

Or team blue if you want to relive Arthas' journey and get a less complete storyline.
I am in fact already on team Yellow.

Then Blue

Then yassss queen time.

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Mr Lasastryke
03/09/20 9:59:41 AM
#439:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Hi everyone. I just spent my weekend finishing a route in Fire Emblem: Three Houses (my first, great game but that story got weird at the end) and I am feeling better about everything.

good!

always remember that biden vs. trump is much better than hillary vs. trump, so we're better off than we were in 2016 no matter what happens. let's stay positive!

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TheRock1525
03/09/20 10:12:32 AM
#440:


If Biden is beating Bernie by 21 in Michigan than there's absolutely no way anyone could believe Bernie could win the general.

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Mr Lasastryke
03/09/20 10:29:26 AM
#441:


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1237004230847868929

nothing to worry about, folks!

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metroid composite
03/09/20 10:38:49 AM
#442:


This poll though.

https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1237018018066169857

:|

Have to hope those less enthusiastic people vote I guess?

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HeroicCrono
03/09/20 11:00:24 AM
#443:


TheRock1525 posted...
If Biden is beating Bernie by 21 in Michigan than there's absolutely no way anyone could believe Bernie could win the general.

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ChaosTonyV4
03/09/20 11:07:26 AM
#444:


metroid composite posted...
This poll though.

https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1237018018066169857

:|

Have to hope those less enthusiastic people vote I guess?

Democrats have never won the Presidency with less enthusiasm


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Leafeon13N
03/09/20 11:08:27 AM
#445:


metroid composite posted...


Have to hope those less enthusiastic people vote I guess?
Not sure how this is polling. Neither candidate has trump level rallies.

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Nelson_Mandela
03/09/20 11:09:13 AM
#446:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Democrats have never won the Presidency with less enthusiasm
Source?

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RaidenGarai
03/09/20 11:15:12 AM
#447:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Democrats have never won the Presidency with less enthusiasm
I think this whole enthusiasm thing doesn't really fit though. Bernie has all of these enthusiastic supporters, and a common pitch for him in the general election is this huge group of young, new voters that will turn out and guarantee him a win.

If that's all true though, where are those people now? That's the part of this that doesn't make sense to me. If things are close that could possibly make a difference, but if Biden ends up winning big, why does that mean Sanders is still the better candidate to beat Trump? Wouldn't that mean that they're both likely to lose then?

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Mr Lasastryke
03/09/20 11:15:26 AM
#448:


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1237027356314869761

very reassuring

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ChaosTonyV4
03/09/20 11:16:23 AM
#449:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Source?

Im sure I could dig up numbers, but Im more going off the refrain Republicans fall in line, Democrats fall in love.

Democrats need to be excited to win.

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/09/20 11:16:38 AM
#450:


I think I'd need to see enthusiasm about getting rid of Trump since that is people's #1 issue. But it kind of makes sense with large number of people less enthusiastic about Biden.

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