Current Events > Olive Garden customer demanded a nonblack server, manager complied, gets fired

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AmericaTheBrave
03/05/20 2:17:08 PM
#102:


Squall28 posted...
What world do you live in where people just leave? If they're the type of jerk to make a scene, they're the type that will make a BIGGER scene when you ask them to leave.

Managers are trained to deal with these things.

All you are doing is showing why you should never be a manager.


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DeadBankerDream
03/05/20 2:18:59 PM
#103:


"It's okay for customers ot be blatantly racist against employees because if you ask them to leave they might throw a hissyfit"
-People who are definitely not defending racism while pretending they're just being logical individuals
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pinky0926
03/05/20 2:19:46 PM
#104:


Only CE could make a clearcut issue like this into a 150+ post debate, lol

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Shablagoo
03/05/20 2:20:56 PM
#106:


Ving_Rhames posted...
The racist had children with her. And people wonder why racism can never truly go away lol. Disgusting humans breed and mold young ones into more disgusting humans and the saga continues.

Manager deserved to be fired.
Customer should be placed on house arrest so she doesnt have to see minorities.

T.H.U.G. L.I.F.E.

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UnfairRepresent
03/05/20 2:22:09 PM
#108:


Shablagoo posted...


T.H.U.G. L.I.F.E.

That Hate U Give Little Infants Fucks Everybody

True

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Shablagoo
03/05/20 2:23:20 PM
#109:


Squall28 posted...
What world do you live in where people just leave? If they're the type of jerk to make a scene, they're the type that will make a BIGGER scene when you ask them to leave.

Last time I remember having a manager who kicked someone out, he stood by the window to the bar I was tending and threw some popcorn at it.

Not as big a deal as you claim it to be, but then youve never held a job so I wouldnt really expect you to be familiar with such situations.

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DeadBankerDream
03/05/20 2:23:24 PM
#110:


ClunkerSlim posted...

....which probably would have got the manager fired too.

You have no reason to think this other than unrealistic stereotypes of corporations (which just happens to allow you to defend racist customers).
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Jagr_68
03/05/20 2:23:35 PM
#111:


pinky0926 posted...
Only CE could make a clearcut issue like this into a 150+ post debate, lol

Someone's gotta play the devil's advocate and luckily that's everyone on CE.

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Maeiv
03/05/20 2:24:01 PM
#112:


ClunkerSlim posted...
....which probably would have got the manager fired too.

pretty much this, lose lose situation

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AlisLandale
03/05/20 2:24:31 PM
#113:


EricDraven59 posted...
Customer should have been kicked out. Not like losing one (racist) customer is going to hurt your business

When I worked a restaurant, they said losing one customer was like losing four. Because the one you drive away is going to give terrible word of mouth to at least three of their friends.

So they should really be looking at it as an investment. Throw out one racist bitch and you cut loose three extra racist bastards for free.

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Shablagoo
03/05/20 2:24:38 PM
#114:


Conflict posted...
Damn.

I'm stealing this

I already stole it from Pac so its all good lol

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Squall28
03/05/20 2:30:11 PM
#115:


I think it's funny you guys feel the need to make up a story about me to try to win an argument. You guys want to solve poverty by getting people fired. Hilarious.

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Shablagoo
03/05/20 2:32:36 PM
#116:


Squall28 posted...
I think it's funny you guys feel the need to make up a story about me to try to win an argument. You guys want to solve poverty by getting people fired. Hilarious.

How else do you solve slavery but by freedom?

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hockeybub89
03/05/20 2:33:28 PM
#117:


Squall28 posted...
I think it's funny you guys feel the need to make up a story about me to try to win an argument. You guys want to solve poverty by getting people fired. Hilarious.
Yeah I guess we can't fire people for being bad at their job if we want to solve poverty.

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Squall28
03/05/20 2:39:10 PM
#118:


hockeybub89 posted...
Yeah I guess we can't fire people for being bad at their job if we want to solve poverty.

Reassigning a server is a very minor issue. Y'all need to get off your high horse.

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Houston
03/05/20 2:39:11 PM
#119:


Olive Garden's motto is "When you're here, you're family." Maybe the manager just thought it was his racist aunt or something

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Tenlaar
03/05/20 2:41:07 PM
#120:


Squall28 posted...
Reassigning a server is a very minor issue. Y'all need to get off your high horse.
Reassigning a server because a customer says "I don't want a black person serving me" is not a very minor issue, get off your fucking racist horse.
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UnholyMudcrab
03/05/20 2:42:30 PM
#121:


Squall28 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Yeah I guess we can't fire people for being bad at their job if we want to solve poverty.

Reassigning a server is a very minor issue. Y'all need to get off your high horse.

Hey look, more y'alls.
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Shablagoo
03/05/20 2:43:03 PM
#122:


Tenlaar posted...
Reassigning a server because a customer says "I don't want a black person serving me" is not a very minor issue, get off your fucking racist horse.

xD

+1

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DarkChozoGhost
03/05/20 2:44:02 PM
#123:


The customer shouldve been refused service for even making such a demand and it is disgusting that the manager would honor it


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1NfamousACE_2
03/05/20 2:46:20 PM
#124:


Squall28 posted...
Reassigning a server is a very minor issue. Y'all need to get off your high horse.

Lol...what the shit due to the reason

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codey
03/05/20 2:47:31 PM
#125:


I get that the manager most likely panicked, but if your reaction in this situation is to panic and cave to the racist demand then you shouldn't be a manager. There's teaching moments, but this isn't one of them.

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DoubleDare
03/05/20 2:48:54 PM
#126:


I would've told the customers they should've stayed home and ordered out or godforbid cook if they didn't want a black server.

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evil_zombie11
03/05/20 2:49:05 PM
#127:


glitteringfairy posted...
And if he had backed up the employee he would have been fired for refusing the customer. Retail/customer service is a no win situation

I freaking hate how customers have so much power. Entitled little ****s.

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Squall28
03/05/20 2:53:12 PM
#128:


DoubleDare posted...
I would've told the customers they should've stayed home and ordered out or godforbid cook if they didn't want a black server.

I would've ended racism right there. Then I would cure the coronavirus. Then everyone would clap.

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ASithLord7
03/05/20 2:53:59 PM
#129:


Squall28 posted...
I would've ended racism right there. Then I would cure the coronavirus. Then everyone would clap.
Gee, wonder why youre so upset and defensive about this

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Villain
03/05/20 2:55:21 PM
#130:


Gonna catch up on this topic since I wonder how it's 3 pages long

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Ving_Rhames
03/05/20 2:55:28 PM
#131:


Squall28 posted...
Reassigning a server is a very minor issue. Y'all need to get off your high horse.

Every argument you made was already stupid enough, but this sealed the deal that you're not anyone that should be acknowledged ever. And now you're at the teehee XD phase. Hate to see it.

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NotYou
03/05/20 2:56:07 PM
#132:


The whole 'deserving/not deserving to get fired' is kind of just theoretical shit. Olive Garden didn't fire the manager because of any sort of morality, it's just a PR decision because you don't want your brand being associated even tangentially with racism. Cutting loose some jabroni who made a poor decision is the obvious choice, even if they're a saint. The most unfortunate thing here is that they don't identify the customer, who is the worst person in the story.
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Villain
03/05/20 2:57:06 PM
#133:


Also what are the chances that the customer is a Trump supporter?

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BeantownHero
03/05/20 3:00:06 PM
#134:


Squall28 posted...
Exactly. I feel like most of these posters never had a service job. You don't get to tell off customers.

lmao what?! If a customer is being belligerent, you absolutely can. I've seen it plenty of times.

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AzNDarkSamurai
03/05/20 3:16:01 PM
#135:


BeantownHero posted...
lmao what?! If a customer is being belligerent, you absolutely can. I've seen it plenty of times.

It depends on who the customer is

If the customer is a VIP or a regular at that restaurant, your ass is gone in a heartbeat because they dont want to lose their business

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cuttin_in_farm
03/05/20 3:16:57 PM
#136:


BeantownHero posted...
lmao what?! If a customer is being belligerent, you absolutely can. I've seen it plenty of times.

Depends on the management.

The manager in the OP was screwed.

This wasnt a drunk. This wasnt two customers getting into a fight. Those situations have only one, obvious choice.

This was a lady who is causing trouble and said gimme someone else and Ill stop causing a scene.

If you think she would just leave if asked, youre delusional. The manager went with the easy choice, albeit the wrong one. Just swap servers.

Life is about picking your battles. On a Saturday dinner rush, you need to move customers in and out. The manager tried to pick the choice that DISPRUPTS the least amount of people. That includes other customers actively dining and those waiting to be seated.

Unfortunately it obviously backfired, but to agree they should be fired is ridiculous. This era of firing everyone for every mistake possible (except police and politicians I guess) is repulsive.

Just look at the article and how onlookers disagreed with how the manager handled it. Fuck their opinions.

When I was host at TGI Fridays, two guys who had beef ate out the same night. I sat them unknowingly next to each other and things got heated. Some nitwit at an adjacent table had the nerve to request a to go box because them about to fucking fight was too much for them. As if that was my priority.

How about instead of potentially ruining peoples lives for ONE mistake, we fucking coach it. Jesus.

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SuperShake666
03/05/20 3:20:16 PM
#137:


Olive Garden: When you're white, you're family apparently.

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Veggeta X
03/05/20 3:20:55 PM
#138:


Imagine letting your employeea get disrespected

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Blue_Inigo
03/05/20 3:21:22 PM
#139:


That customer should have got the middle finger then been escorted off the premises

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Wewillrocku
03/05/20 3:22:38 PM
#140:


that's a sad story.

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Veggeta X
03/05/20 3:29:46 PM
#141:


@cuttin_in_farm posted...
Unfortunately it obviously backfired, but to agree they should be fired is ridiculous. This era of firing everyone for every mistake possible (except police and politicians I guess) is repulsive.
You're downplaying the mistake and it's hilarious.

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lolife67
03/05/20 3:31:11 PM
#142:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
Depends on the management.

The manager in the OP was screwed.

This wasnt a drunk. This wasnt two customers getting into a fight. Those situations have only one, obvious choice.

This was a lady who is causing trouble and said gimme someone else and Ill stop causing a scene.

If you think she would just leave if asked, youre delusional. The manager went with the easy choice, albeit the wrong one. Just swap servers.

Life is about picking your battles. On a Saturday dinner rush, you need to move customers in and out. The manager tried to pick the choice that DISPRUPTS the least amount of people. That includes other customers actively dining and those waiting to be seated.

Unfortunately it obviously backfired, but to agree they should be fired is ridiculous. This era of firing everyone for every mistake possible (except police and politicians I guess) is repulsive.

Just look at the article and how onlookers disagreed with how the manager handled it. Fuck their opinions.

When I was host at TGI Fridays, two guys who had beef ate out the same night. I sat them unknowingly next to each other and things got heated. Some nitwit at an adjacent table had the nerve to request a to go box because them about to fucking fight was too much for them. As if that was my priority.

How about instead of potentially ruining peoples lives for ONE mistake, we fucking coach it. Jesus.
This is all bs. The manager was fired because other ustomers wrote to Olive Garden and complained. Had he tossed the racist out, those same people would have written in to help him keep his job. He made the wrong call, period. This wasn't some "Sophie's Choice" or anything close to a "no win" situation.
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CM_Ponch
03/05/20 3:31:28 PM
#143:


Manager made a bad call. Shouldn't have been fired, should have to go through training on how to handle this situation properly. The company itself doesn't care abwthe employees and is always going to side with the customer's complaints. People can be mad at the manager all they want, either way their job is on the line for either starting a scene or handling the scene poorly. Retail and fast food jobs are just ass in general.

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CM_Ponch
03/05/20 3:33:05 PM
#144:


lolife67 posted...
The manager was fired because other ustomers wrote to Olive Garden and complained. Had he tossed the racist out, those same people would have written in to help him keep his job.
Do you really think someone as ignorant as a racist who was already causing a scene is just going to politely leave because you asked them to?

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Veggeta X
03/05/20 3:42:33 PM
#145:


CM_Ponch posted...
Do you really think someone as ignorant as a racist who was already causing a scene is just going to politely leave because you asked them to?
Ask them to. If they don't comply then use your security if you have one, if not then call the cops. Yeah yall shouldn't ever be managers.

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lolife67
03/05/20 3:42:41 PM
#146:


CM_Ponch posted...
Do you really think someone as ignorant as a racist who was already causing a scene is just going to politely leave because you asked them to?
That's irrelevant. We're talking about if the manager would have been fired or not had he asked her to leave. The answer is, not likely.
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lolife67
03/05/20 3:43:52 PM
#147:


Veggeta X posted...
Ask them to. If they don't comply then use your security if you have one, if not then call the cops. Yeah yall shouldn't ever be managers.
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DeadBankerDream
03/05/20 3:45:57 PM
#148:


Everyone in this topic arguing that you should allow blatant racism against your employees because the racist might "cause a scene" if you don't have to be dishonest people for some reason defending racists.

Nobody would actually think this is a way anything should be run.
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lolife67
03/05/20 3:50:58 PM
#149:


Also, the idea that the manager did it so the racist wouldn't cause a scene is stupid because she was ALREADY CAUSING A SCENE!
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RickyTheBAWSE
03/05/20 3:55:18 PM
#150:


if my employer didn't have my back when I'm dealing with racism, fuck that employer too lol. people like that have been allowed to opperate in that manner for too long.

lol @ all of the "shut up and take my racism" types ITT though.
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cuttin_in_farm
03/05/20 3:56:57 PM
#151:


lolife67 posted...
This is all bs. The manager was fired because other ustomers wrote to Olive Garden and complained. Had he tossed the racist out, those same people would have written in to help him keep his job. He made the wrong call, period. This wasn't some "Sophie's Choice" or anything close to a "no win" situation.

Im glad you have hindsight.

lolife67 posted...
Also, the idea that the manager did it so the racist wouldn't cause a scene is stupid because she was ALREADY CAUSING A SCENE!

The manager tried to make her stop causing it. Judging from the article, the manager did a poor job attending the employees who were emotionally affected. I dont think the racist kept causing a scene, though I can obviously be wrong.

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