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Jakyl25
02/05/20 11:30:02 PM
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LordoftheMorons
02/05/20 11:40:25 PM
#452:


Didn't Will Menaker just tweet out that he would sit out the general if Bernie didn't win?

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KamikazePotato
02/05/20 11:54:46 PM
#453:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1225269067382247425?s=21
Whenever I see a NYT bit related to Bernie, I remember that clip posted here where he was talking to the higher-ups and every single one of them had this look of open disgust and dismissal on their faces

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LordoftheMorons
02/05/20 11:58:47 PM
#454:


https://twitter.com/KevinWhitelaw1/status/1225273332385435648

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LordoftheMorons
02/06/20 12:56:50 AM
#455:


I forget who recently asked if anybody really likes Biden (KP maybe?), and I understand why a lot of people don't, but one strength he does have is in connecting with the pain of others:

https://twitter.com/AC360/status/1225237206513700866
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1225261447187456002

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HeroDelTiempo17
02/06/20 1:04:57 AM
#456:


https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/1225285181478707202?s=19

bernie now beaming votes into iowa via satellite and has almost caught up to Pete on state delegates

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Suprak the Stud
02/06/20 1:05:54 AM
#457:


https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/state/iowa

Up by 2k now in the popular vote!

(and yeah he is basically tied with state delegates)

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Corrik7
02/06/20 1:15:24 AM
#458:


Quite a few polls have Biden polling in 3rd almost 4th in NH.

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KamikazePotato
02/06/20 2:16:17 AM
#459:


FWI, last Iowa satellites are coming in and Bernie probably won Iowa in every possible category lol

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Corrik7
02/06/20 2:23:45 AM
#460:


Last Iowa Satellite isn't the only thing not accounted for. Some of the counties already accounted for are not 100% yet either.

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red sox 777
02/06/20 2:41:44 AM
#461:


Man Trump should have run in the Democratic Iowa caucuses. He could have won.

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Leafeon13N
02/06/20 12:51:34 PM
#462:


Totalacquittal

The best word.
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Leafeon13N
02/06/20 12:55:23 PM
#463:


A lot of people forget Abe Lincoln
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FFDragon
02/06/20 12:58:00 PM
#464:


https://twitter.com/TomPerez/status/1225468833458245632

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Dancedreamer
02/06/20 1:01:11 PM
#465:


I think Iowa shouldn't be allowed to be first anymore as punishment.

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Jakyl25
02/06/20 1:02:02 PM
#466:


I think Iowa definitely shouldnt have a caucus and neither should anywhere else
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The Mana Sword
02/06/20 1:02:37 PM
#467:


Dancedreamer posted...
I think Iowa shouldn't be allowed

same

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Not_an_Owl
02/06/20 1:20:40 PM
#468:


Just have all the primaries on the same day tbqh.

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HeroDelTiempo17
02/06/20 1:21:33 PM
#469:


Not_an_Owl posted...
Just have all the primaries on the same day tbqh.

this and also make it ranked choice

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Jakyl25
02/06/20 1:24:12 PM
#470:


All of them on the same day would be too chaotic

But I could see 5 at the same time for 10 weeks (plus territory and DC primaries mixed in), rotating cycle to cycle
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RaidenGarai
02/06/20 1:26:11 PM
#471:


Jakyl25 posted...
I think Iowa definitely shouldnt have a caucus and neither should anywhere else
This, and they should have to go at the end too

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Not_an_Owl
02/06/20 1:27:36 PM
#472:


Jakyl25 posted...
All of them on the same day would be too chaotic
Are general elections also too chaotic?

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FFDragon
02/06/20 1:30:02 PM
#473:


Part of the primary process is the ebb and flow between each set of dates, momentum, like candidates dropping out and so forth.

That isn't a factor in a general.

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HeroDelTiempo17
02/06/20 1:32:25 PM
#474:


FFDragon posted...
Part of the primary process is the ebb and flow between each set of dates, momentum, like candidates dropping out and so forth.

That isn't a factor in a general.

So hold those multiple rounds during the absurdly long year and a half primary period we currently have

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Jakyl25
02/06/20 1:40:20 PM
#475:


Not_an_Owl posted...

Are general elections also too chaotic?


They would be if there were two parties with 8 people running in both
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LordoftheMorons
02/06/20 2:17:35 PM
#476:


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-respond-senate-trial-acquittal-noon-remarks-white/story?id=68800473

Really sounds like hes learned his lesson and wont do it again!

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LordoftheMorons
02/06/20 2:25:11 PM
#477:


Also:

https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1225480955466584064?s=21

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red sox 777
02/06/20 2:28:01 PM
#478:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-respond-senate-trial-acquittal-noon-remarks-white/story?id=68800473

Really sounds like hes learned his lesson and wont do it again!

The real question is whether the Democrats have learned their lesson. Don't prosecute when you cannot convict, because trials have consequences! As do elections!

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DoomTheGyarados
02/06/20 2:40:20 PM
#479:


Interesting not take by never Bernie people that the changes in iowa caused this mess when actually all that the changes did is expose that the IDP does their job terribly.

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FFDragon
02/06/20 2:44:05 PM
#480:


https://twitter.com/tylerpager/status/1225494446206279686

Karen Buttigieg would like to speak to the manager.

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FFDragon
02/06/20 2:46:10 PM
#481:


red sox 777 posted...
The real question is whether the Democrats have learned their lesson. Don't prosecute when you cannot convict, because trials have consequences! As do elections!

Look at all those consequences in 2000.

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ChaosTonyV4
02/06/20 2:48:23 PM
#482:


https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1225289867942342656?s=21

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Jakyl25
02/06/20 2:50:31 PM
#483:


Hey Biden did better than he did in Iowa 2008

Take that Bernie
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The Mana Sword
02/06/20 2:50:47 PM
#484:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1225289867942342656?s=21

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really makes u think

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red sox 777
02/06/20 2:54:38 PM
#485:


FFDragon posted...
Look at all those consequences in 2000.

Democrats failed to press their advantage in 2000. Al Gore actively pushed Clinton away from his campaign, implicitly endorsing the impeachment. The Democrats are wrong to assume that Republicans will act like they do and decline to press an advantage. Republicans will pounce on the smallest advantage like a bald eagle dive-attacking a snake from above.

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Corrik7
02/06/20 2:55:36 PM
#486:


Surprising they call for a recount when Biden is in 4th. Keep that shit going til after the next elections.

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red sox 777
02/06/20 2:56:49 PM
#487:


Like, there's a reason the Republican Party didn't impeach Obama. They knew he wouldn't be convicted. Sure, they could have gotten a majority of votes in the Senate to convict, they could have 6 months of trial and hundreds of witnesses, but they wouldn't get the conviction. And the acquittal would benefit the Democrats in the 2016 election. So the Republicans didn't impeach.

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DoomTheGyarados
02/06/20 2:58:28 PM
#488:


Also Pete trying to erase the votes of minorities isn't a great look.

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ChaosTonyV4
02/06/20 3:00:54 PM
#489:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Also Pete trying to erase the votes of minorities isn't a great look.

Where?

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Suprak the Stud
02/06/20 3:04:36 PM
#490:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1225289867942342656?s=21

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This is supposed to be a goof, right?

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DoomTheGyarados
02/06/20 3:05:03 PM
#491:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Where?

He is complaining about the satellite sites. These are made up largely of minority voters

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Reg
02/06/20 3:05:12 PM
#492:


Suprak the Stud posted...
This is supposed to be a goof, right?
It's an oof for sure
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Suprak the Stud
02/06/20 3:07:48 PM
#493:


COME ON DOWN TO THE NEWEST HIT SHOW

OOF

OR

GOOOOOOOOOOOF

I'd watch it

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Suprak the Stud
02/06/20 3:32:03 PM
#494:


Like I don't know who that person is so I can't tell if that was just satire or if they really don't understand why Bernie went from 49% to 26% when he's running against eight other people and he's not just the "not Hillary Clinton" option for some people.

Keeping 26% in this crowded field in Iowa is really good imo.

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MoogleKupo141
02/06/20 3:39:41 PM
#495:


she is dead serious
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ChaosTonyV4
02/06/20 3:39:56 PM
#496:


Shes the Comms Director for the Human Rights Campaign, and unfortunately shes 100% serious.

https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1224898815356030978?s=21

More cringe

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xp1337
02/06/20 3:40:42 PM
#497:


A little late to this but having all the primaries on the same day is a bad idea, IMO. It would disproportionately advantage those with a ton of money to spend by setting a prohibitive cost for running because you'd have to basically run a national campaign. Basically it'd favor people like Bloomberg with "fuck you i'm rich" money because he and Steyer are basically the only ones who can afford to - and are - running that kind of campaign with their incessant national ad buys.

That said I agree that something like 5 groups of 10 states going at a time would be good. Or 10 groups of 5, whatever, with the order they go in rotated after every cycle. Have the groups decided in a way that aims to be representative of the people and after every full rotation is completed maybe have a chance to tinker with the groups in case demographic changes knocks it a bit out of wack - so once every 20 or 40 years.

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red sox 777
02/06/20 3:41:39 PM
#498:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Shes the Comms Director for the Human Rights Campaign, and unfortunately shes 100% serious.

https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1224898815356030978?s=21

More cringe

At some point we have to consider that these people are Republican plants.

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Suprak the Stud
02/06/20 3:43:20 PM
#499:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Shes the Comms Director for the Human Rights Campaign, and unfortunately shes 100% serious.

https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1224898815356030978?s=21

More cringe

Yikers.

There are always some people on your side that you wish were on the other side, though.

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Suprak the Stud
02/06/20 3:44:13 PM
#500:


(I'm sure she usually does really good work for the Human Rights Campaign but uh yeah yikes yikes erp yikes)

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