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Bass_X0 01/23/20 2:50:52 AM #1:	https://www.al.com/news/2020/01/alabama-woman-says-she-killed-her-rapist-in-self-defense-she-could-spend-life-in-prison.html Stand Your Ground only seems to apply if you are a white male. Not even the NRA cares, even though she shot her rapist. --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN <cite>Bass_X0 posted [p:933358669] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>https://www.al.com/news/2020/01/alabama-woman-says-she-killed-her-rapist-in-self-defense-she-could-spend-life-in-prison.html Stand Your Ground only seems to apply if you are a white male. Not even the NRA cares, even though she shot her rapist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 01/23/20 2:54:42 AM #2:	This fucking shithole country is a joke. What is this, India? --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:933358750] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>This fucking shithole country is a joke. What is this, India? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keith_Valentine 01/23/20 3:11:05 AM #3:	Ving_Rhames posted... This fucking shithole country is a joke. What is this, India? Did you actually read the article dude? Its actually a really fucked up case. First of all, the girl got her 4 kids taken away by the state for supposedly drug abuse. And since the dude she shot was high on meth when he died, its a safe bet she had used meth in the past too. Ive seen that a lot. They didnt find the guys dna on her bedding or her, although they did find another mans. The rape test could not conclude she had been raped. She passed a note to a cashier saying shed been beaten yet there was a cop IN the store while she was there and she said nothing. Possibly because she wss high and didnt want to talk to a cop? Lots of people dont trust cops when they probably should. Like when youve just been assaulted or raped then you drive with the guy to the store to buy him cigarettes?? Then she had her brother go back to the store to get the note, and when he read she had been physically assaulted (not raped) he came to the house with a gun. She originally told the 911 dispatcher her brother shot the guy. And she again didnt mention being raped. Big missed oppurtunity. So im not defending the meth head that did actually beat and strangle her. Theres proof of that. But from a legal point of view, shes lied and changed her story a lot and it looks bad. She made very bad choices across the board. And I get that she may have been scared and ashamed and thats why she didnt bring up the rape. Because I know rape victims and thats actually a surprisingly common thing. But the people she was associating with and her choices were suspect. Id also be curious to know if they drug tested her, it doesnt say in the article. Cuz they should have. And she shot the guy 4 times. Its very weird. <cite>Keith_Valentine posted [p:933359030] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Ving_Rhames posted... </cite> <quote>This fucking shithole country is a joke. What is this, India?</quote> Did you actually read the article dude? Its actually a really fucked up case. First of all, the girl got her 4 kids taken away by the state for supposedly drug abuse. And since the dude she shot was high on meth when he died, its a safe bet she had used meth in the past too. Ive seen that a lot. They didnt find the guys dna on her bedding or her, although they did find another mans. The rape test could not conclude she had been raped. She passed a note to a cashier saying shed been beaten yet there was a cop IN the store while she was there and she said nothing. Possibly because she wss high and didnt want to talk to a cop? Lots of people dont trust cops when they probably should. Like when youve just been assaulted or raped then you drive with the guy to the store to buy him cigarettes?? Then she had her brother go back to the store to get the note, and when he read she had been physically assaulted (not raped) he came to the house with a gun. She originally told the 911 dispatcher her brother shot the guy. And she again didnt mention being raped. Big missed oppurtunity. So im not defending the meth head that did actually beat and strangle her. Theres proof of that. But from a legal point of view, shes lied and changed her story a lot and it looks bad. She made very bad choices across the board. And I get that she may have been scared and ashamed and thats why she didnt bring up the rape. Because I know rape victims and thats actually a surprisingly common thing. But the people she was associating with and her choices were suspect. Id also be curious to know if they drug tested her, it doesnt say in the article. Cuz they should have. And she shot the guy 4 times. Its very weird. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 01/23/20 3:13:42 AM #4:	Imagine being so delusional that you dont know white women are by far the most privileged demographic in the american justice system. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:933359081] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Imagine being so delusional that you dont know white women are by far the most privileged demographic in the american justice system. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/23/20 3:17:29 AM #5:	Solid Snake07 posted... Imagine being so delusional that you dont know white women are by far the most privileged demographic in the american justice system. Wrong It's not race or gender It's money. OJ Simpson and Jussie Smollet aren't white women. They are wealthy however so they can break the law as much as they want. A lot of this "White people can get away with!" is just that more white people tend to be rich. You rarely hear of poor people getting away with anything --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:933359140] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine being so delusional that you dont know white women are by far the most privileged demographic in the american justice system. </quote> Wrong It's not race or gender It's money. OJ Simpson and Jussie Smollet aren't white women. They are wealthy however so they can break the law as much as they want. A lot of this "White people can get away with!" is just that more white people tend to be rich. You rarely hear of poor people getting away with anything</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keith_Valentine 01/23/20 3:20:04 AM #6:	Solid Snake07 posted... Imagine being so delusional that you dont know white women are by far the most privileged demographic in the american justice system. Ive seen women with the exact same crimes as men do significantly less time. For no reason. Just look at the female sex offenders all over the news, like the teachers molesting students. I saw a duckbear topic earlier where the ladies bond was 25k! Thats stupid low for sexual assault, men get way worse and longer prison sentences. And in prison? Its like a living Hell for them. Which ftr doesnt bother me, they deserve it. But women definitely get the sweetest peach imo. <cite>Keith_Valentine posted [p:933359185] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>Imagine being so delusional that you dont know white women are by far the most privileged demographic in the american justice system.</quote> Ive seen women with the exact same crimes as men do significantly less time. For no reason. Just look at the female sex offenders all over the news, like the teachers molesting students. I saw a duckbear topic earlier where the ladies bond was 25k! Thats stupid low for sexual assault, men get way worse and longer prison sentences. And in prison? Its like a living Hell for them. Which ftr doesnt bother me, they deserve it. But women definitely get the sweetest peach imo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gp1829 01/23/20 3:24:42 AM #7:	UnfairRepresent posted... Wrong It's not race or gender It's money. OJ Simpson and Jussie Smollet aren't white women. They are wealthy however so they can break the law as much as they want. A lot of this "White people can get away with!" is just that more white people tend to be rich. You rarely hear of poor people getting away with anything Yeah OJ didn't just get out of jail or anything. Bill Cosby is walking around right now too. <cite>gp1829 posted [p:933359266] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Wrong It's not race or gender It's money. OJ Simpson and Jussie Smollet aren't white women. They are wealthy however so they can break the law as much as they want. A lot of this "White people can get away with!" is just that more white people tend to be rich. You rarely hear of poor people getting away with anything</quote> Yeah OJ didn't just get out of jail or anything. Bill Cosby is walking around right now too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/23/20 3:25:06 AM #8:	Keith_Valentine posted... Ive seen women with the exact same crimes as men do significantly less time. For no reason. And I am sure you can post all these cases so we can see th- And he was never seen again --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:933359270] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Keith_Valentine posted...</cite> <quote> Ive seen women with the exact same crimes as men do significantly less time. For no reason.</quote> And I am sure you can post all these cases so we can see th- And he was never seen again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keith_Valentine 01/23/20 3:30:49 AM #9:	UnfairRepresent posted... Wrong It's not race or gender It's money. OJ Simpson and Jussie Smollet aren't white women. They are wealthy however so they can break the law as much as they want. A lot of this "White people can get away with!" is just that more white people tend to be rich. You rarely hear of poor people getting away with anything Ehh OJ served years in prison for robbery. He just got away with murder because of that racist detective and he had a badass defender, J Cochran. Which was cuz of money, youre right there. But... Poor people get away with a lot man. Seriously, a LOT. You havent been to jail I think. Some of those guys are pros at working the system. Like if you assault someone.. And they dont come to court, and you plead not guilty? You beat the charge! No witness no crime. Some for example druggies that rob and beat each other up, fight and win those charges every freakin day. I had two felonies last year for a fight I got into (that was self defense) and I got all charges dismissed, didnt pay a dime. Didnt ask mommy and daddy for shit, and I coulda too. All i had to do was sit it out in jail for a long time. Which was horrible ftr, but tbh i deserved it! Got away with it man. Same thing in another situation, multiple charges against me. I used a mental health defense, got sent to a maximum security ward, and got several felonies dismissed after serving six months. Again, i was incredibly guilty. There are many ways people can game the system. And being a woman is a huge advantage ftr, they straight get lighter sentences. Its just a fact. <cite>Keith_Valentine posted [p:933359376] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Wrong It's not race or gender It's money. OJ Simpson and Jussie Smollet aren't white women. They are wealthy however so they can break the law as much as they want. A lot of this "White people can get away with!" is just that more white people tend to be rich. You rarely hear of poor people getting away with anything</quote> Ehh OJ served years in prison for robbery. He just got away with murder because of that racist detective and he had a badass defender, J Cochran. Which was cuz of money, youre right there. But... Poor people get away with a lot man. Seriously, a LOT. You havent been to jail I think. Some of those guys are pros at working the system. Like if you assault someone.. And they dont come to court, and you plead not guilty? You beat the charge! No witness no crime. Some for example druggies that rob and beat each other up, fight and win those charges every freakin day. I had two felonies last year for a fight I got into (that was self defense) and I got all charges dismissed, didnt pay a dime. Didnt ask mommy and daddy for shit, and I coulda too. All i had to do was sit it out in jail for a long time. Which was horrible ftr, but tbh i deserved it! Got away with it man. Same thing in another situation, multiple charges against me. I used a mental health defense, got sent to a maximum security ward, and got several felonies dismissed after serving six months. Again, i was incredibly guilty. There are many ways people can game the system. And being a woman is a huge advantage ftr, they straight get lighter sentences. Its just a fact. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keith_Valentine 01/23/20 3:34:23 AM #10:	UnfairRepresent posted... And I am sure you can post all these cases so we can see th- And he was never seen again Little Premature there bud. Ill used the example of vehicular homicide. Many women in my state get 10 years with 5 suspended for killing someone while driving drunk etc. Ive seen men get 20-30, over and over. Same thing with violent assault. Women get less time, whereas of you slapped the shit out of your girl? You could go to prison for years. But i knew a guy whos girl beat him half to death with a machete and got the charges dismissed. I could do that all day, go read up on sentencing discrepancy if you dont believe me. I also mentioned sexual offenders, where the differences are even greater. <cite>Keith_Valentine posted [p:933359451] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>And I am sure you can post all these cases so we can see th- And he was never seen again</quote> Little Premature there bud. Ill used the example of vehicular homicide. Many women in my state get 10 years with 5 suspended for killing someone while driving drunk etc. Ive seen men get 20-30, over and over. Same thing with violent assault. Women get less time, whereas of you slapped the shit out of your girl? You could go to prison for years. But i knew a guy whos girl beat him half to death with a machete and got the charges dismissed. I could do that all day, go read up on sentencing discrepancy if you dont believe me. I also mentioned sexual offenders, where the differences are even greater. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 01/23/20 3:34:27 AM #11:	Wtf. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:933359453] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Wtf. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 01/23/20 3:42:11 AM #12:	UnfairRepresent posted... And I am sure you can post all these cases so we can see th- And he was never seen again Lol, this cant be serious --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:933359587] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>And I am sure you can post all these cases so we can see th- And he was never seen again</quote> Lol, this cant be serious </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coolboy11 01/23/20 3:44:23 AM #13:	Solid Snake07 posted... Imagine being so delusional that you dont know white women are by far the most privileged demographic in the american justice system. in fairness the South treats poorer Whites like dogshit to an extent that doesn't happen in the other subregions from what I can tell. (don't know if this chick is actually poorer or whatever but my point still stands) --- "A superhero in the flesh, even at my worst I'm the best"-Big KRIT <cite>coolboy11 posted [p:933359632] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>Imagine being so delusional that you dont know white women are by far the most privileged demographic in the american justice system.</quote>in fairness the South treats poorer Whites like dogshit to an extent that doesn't happen in the other subregions from what I can tell. (don't know if this chick is actually poorer or whatever but my point still stands) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 01/23/20 3:49:00 AM #14:	coolboy11 posted... in fairness the South treats poorer Whites like dogshit to an extent that doesn't happen in the other subregions from what I can tell. (don't know if this chick is actually poorer or whatever but my point still stands) I dont really think poor people getting a raw deal is exclusive to the south. And irregardless poor men are feeling it much more than the women. This woman might be justified, but the fact that the DA wants to pursue it is a red flag to me that it's at best suspicious circumstances --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:933359710] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>coolboy11 posted... </cite> <quote>in fairness the South treats poorer Whites like dogshit to an extent that doesn't happen in the other subregions from what I can tell. (don't know if this chick is actually poorer or whatever but my point still stands)</quote> I dont really think poor people getting a raw deal is exclusive to the south. And irregardless poor men are feeling it much more than the women. This woman might be justified, but the fact that the DA wants to pursue it is a red flag to me that it's at best suspicious circumstances </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/23/20 3:57:18 AM #15:	Keith_Valentine posted... Little Premature there bud. Ill used the example of vehicular homicide. Many women in my state get 10 years with 5 suspended for killing someone while driving drunk etc. Ive seen men get 20-30, over and over. Same thing with violent assault. Women get less time, whereas of you slapped the shit out of your girl? You could go to prison for years. But i knew a guy whos girl beat him half to death with a machete and got the charges dismissed. I could do that all day, go read up on sentencing discrepancy if you dont believe me. I also mentioned sexual offenders, where the differences are even greater. Okay but where are the actual cases? You're just saying this happened --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:933359845] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Keith_Valentine posted...</cite> <quote> Little Premature there bud. Ill used the example of vehicular homicide. Many women in my state get 10 years with 5 suspended for killing someone while driving drunk etc. Ive seen men get 20-30, over and over. Same thing with violent assault. Women get less time, whereas of you slapped the shit out of your girl? You could go to prison for years. But i knew a guy whos girl beat him half to death with a machete and got the charges dismissed. I could do that all day, go read up on sentencing discrepancy if you dont believe me. I also mentioned sexual offenders, where the differences are even greater. </quote> Okay but where are the actual cases? You're just saying this happened</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keith_Valentine 01/23/20 4:13:04 AM #16:	You dont have to believe me dude, im not gonna google a bunch of shit to make my point. Thats just what ive seen as a dumbass whos been in jail a lot. We all think that. Dispute the gender sentencing if you want, thats fine. But ftr, poor people are some slick operators when it comes to getting away with shit. Ever heard of that gang leader Monster Cody? Literally fucking killed people over and over and beat the charges because they couldnt prove it, then he wrote a book about it. Hell yea they get busted a lot. But they have lots of protections, sympathetic liberal judges, virtuous public defenders, access to programs. All kinds of stuff. Lots of them fuck up over and over and over. They arent saints to be pitied imo. Except maybe the drug reoffenders, who dont commit more crime but go back repeatedly because they constantly piss hot on probation. Drug addicts. Thats kinda fucked. But even then, they are pretty dumb when it comes to making good choices. And theyd get more leeway if they had jobs. The system wants you to be good and hold a job. Ive pissed hot for weed and got caught at a bar, they just put an ankle monitor on me for 3 months because I had two jobs and a house. A good PO doesnt care as much about little baby shit when youre handling business, especially when theyre used to meth heads that get their kids taken away and wont work. System aint actually that bad imo, its just lots of these guys are incredibly fuckin criminal. Like... its bad. Thats why im suspicious of chick in op, she lied a lot. If she just came out and said she got raped, shed have got mad sympathy, but instead she made a bunch of shit up and tried to cover it up. Ofc cops are suspicious at that point, they hate being lied to. <cite>Keith_Valentine posted [p:933360111] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>You dont have to believe me dude, im not gonna google a bunch of shit to make my point. Thats just what ive seen as a dumbass whos been in jail a lot. We all think that. Dispute the gender sentencing if you want, thats fine. But ftr, poor people are some slick operators when it comes to getting away with shit. Ever heard of that gang leader Monster Cody? Literally fucking killed people over and over and beat the charges because they couldnt prove it, then he wrote a book about it. Hell yea they get busted a lot. But they have lots of protections, sympathetic liberal judges, virtuous public defenders, access to programs. All kinds of stuff. Lots of them fuck up over and over and over. They arent saints to be pitied imo. Except maybe the drug reoffenders, who dont commit more crime but go back repeatedly because they constantly piss hot on probation. Drug addicts. Thats kinda fucked. But even then, they are pretty dumb when it comes to making good choices. And theyd get more leeway if they had jobs. The system wants you to be good and hold a job. Ive pissed hot for weed and got caught at a bar, they just put an ankle monitor on me for 3 months because I had two jobs and a house. A good PO doesnt care as much about little baby shit when youre handling business, especially when theyre used to meth heads that get their kids taken away and wont work. System aint actually that bad imo, its just lots of these guys are incredibly fuckin criminal. Like... its bad. Thats why im suspicious of chick in op, she lied a lot. If she just came out and said she got raped, shed have got mad sympathy, but instead she made a bunch of shit up and tried to cover it up. Ofc cops are suspicious at that point, they hate being lied to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/23/20 4:30:24 AM #17:	Keith_Valentine posted... You dont have to believe me Ok --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:933360388] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Keith_Valentine posted...</cite> <quote>You dont have to believe me</quote> Ok</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keith_Valentine 01/23/20 4:41:36 AM #18:	Well its like you want me to post proof and lay it out with bullet points, I dont give a fuck about all that. I dont think it would change your mind anyways tbh. Im not trying to win an argument with you, I just like to share stories. But yea, dont underestimate the 'poor', if you get one thing from that. Theyre hustlers. The American legal system totally caters to those that cant help themselves, they have a shitload of rights and second/third/fourth etc chances. <cite>Keith_Valentine posted [p:933360550] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Well its like you want me to post proof and lay it out with bullet points, I dont give a fuck about all that. I dont think it would change your mind anyways tbh. Im not trying to win an argument with you, I just like to share stories. But yea, dont underestimate the 'poor', if you get one thing from that. Theyre hustlers. The American legal system totally caters to those that cant help themselves, they have a shitload of rights and second/third/fourth etc chances. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/23/20 5:01:50 AM #19:	Keith_Valentine posted... Well its like you want me to post proof and lay it out with bullet points Your claim is that people with identical cases got different results solely due to genitals and not wealth Prove it, show some cases of people In the same place who did the same crime on roughly the same pay grade getting wildly different sentences these cases are public record and you're claiming to have frequent first hand knowledge of them.but cant back it.up just sounds like you're saying things you want to be true Keith_Valentine posted... But yea, dont underestimate the 'poor', if you get one thing from that. Theyre hustlers. The American legal system totally caters to those that cant help themselves, they have a shitload of rights and second/third/fourth etc chances. and this all but confirms it poor people cant afford good lawyers, they cant afford bail, they cant turn up to court in fancy suits Again look at Jussie Smollett, a poor person whether black white or dickless cant bribe a state to drop 17 charges for literally no reason --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:933360823] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Keith_Valentine posted...</cite> <quote>Well its like you want me to post proof and lay it out with bullet points</quote> Your claim is that people with identical cases got different results solely due to genitals and not wealth Prove it, show some cases of people In the same place who did the same crime on roughly the same pay grade getting wildly different sentences these cases are public record and you're claiming to have frequent first hand knowledge of them.but cant back it.up just sounds like you're saying things you want to be true Keith_Valentine posted...</cite> <quote>But yea, dont underestimate the 'poor', if you get one thing from that. Theyre hustlers. The American legal system totally caters to those that cant help themselves, they have a shitload of rights and second/third/fourth etc chances. </quote> and this all but confirms it poor people cant afford good lawyers, they cant afford bail, they cant turn up to court in fancy suits Again look at Jussie Smollett, a poor person whether black white or dickless cant bribe a state to drop 17 charges for literally no reason</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 01/23/20 5:05:33 AM #20:	TBF woman sex offenders do tend to get lesser sentences. See female teachers having sex with students when compared to male teachers doing the same thing. Their is a massive double standard on how people react to it in general. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:933360879] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>TBF woman sex offenders do tend to get lesser sentences. See female teachers having sex with students when compared to male teachers doing the same thing. Their is a massive double standard on how people react to it in general. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keith_Valentine 01/23/20 6:45:04 AM #21:	Lol Unfair. I just want it to be true? Its a fact women get off easier than men in court. I dont care if you dont like that. But you're just some self righteous keyboard banger who doesnt know a damn thing about court aside from the 'injustices' you read about online that get your panties twisted. And its funny to me. Poor people cant afford lawyers? Well its cool that they can get a free one. Its called a public defender. They cant afford bail? Well shit, good thing people get ORed constantly. Whats an OR? It means released on your own recognizance. So they can be free until their next court date. And lots of them wont even show up. Because theyre dumb. They cant afford fancy suits for court? Holy shit now youre killing me. How about take a shower and wear a wal mart button up shirt? Not that you even need that. Guys show up in sweatpants and get charges dropped. You are extremely naive and its nice that you care but you dont know what the fuck youre talking about. Go battle injustice somewhere it actually exists, like China or Iran. <cite>Keith_Valentine posted [p:933362265] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Lol Unfair. I just want it to be true? Its a fact women get off easier than men in court. I dont care if you dont like that. But you're just some self righteous keyboard banger who doesnt know a damn thing about court aside from the 'injustices' you read about online that get your panties twisted. And its funny to me. Poor people cant afford lawyers? Well its cool that they can get a free one. Its called a public defender. They cant afford bail? Well shit, good thing people get ORed constantly. Whats an OR? It means released on your own recognizance. So they can be free until their next court date. And lots of them wont even show up. Because theyre dumb. They cant afford fancy suits for court? Holy shit now youre killing me. How about take a shower and wear a wal mart button up shirt? Not that you even need that. Guys show up in sweatpants and get charges dropped. You are extremely naive and its nice that you care but you dont know what the fuck youre talking about. Go battle injustice somewhere it actually exists, like China or Iran. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_SilverX 01/23/20 6:46:44 AM #22:	he had a bright future ahead of him, and she took it all away!! --- I support Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo. don't compare games to feces -- if you've an opinion worth mentioning, do so civilly <cite>Dark_SilverX posted [p:933362290] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>he had a bright future ahead of him, and she took it all away!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/23/20 6:49:57 AM #23:	Keith_Valentine posted... Its a fact women get off easier than men in court. Cool Then demonstrate it with cases and evidence Just saying it over and over is the same thing as "Its a fact Christianity is the one true religion. Look it up " spikethedevil posted... TBF woman sex offenders do tend to get lesser sentences. See female teachers having sex with students when compared to male teachers doing the same thing. Their is a massive double standard on how people react to it in general. Your claim is that people with identical cases got different results solely due to genitals and not wealth Prove it, show some cases of people In the same place who did the same crime on roughly the same pay grade getting wildly different sentences these cases are public record and you're claiming to have frequent first hand knowledge of them.but cant back it.up just sounds like you're saying things you want to be true I'm worried you guys are falling into self fulfilling prophecies here and going into an echo chamber. Never believe something simply because you enjoy it --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:933362345] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Keith_Valentine posted...</cite> <quote>Its a fact women get off easier than men in court.</quote> Cool Then demonstrate it with cases and evidence Just saying it over and over is the same thing as "Its a fact Christianity is the one true religion. Look it up " spikethedevil posted...</cite> <quote>TBF woman sex offenders do tend to get lesser sentences. See female teachers having sex with students when compared to male teachers doing the same thing. Their is a massive double standard on how people react to it in general. </quote> Your claim is that people with identical cases got different results solely due to genitals and not wealth Prove it, show some cases of people In the same place who did the same crime on roughly the same pay grade getting wildly different sentences these cases are public record and you're claiming to have frequent first hand knowledge of them.but cant back it.up just sounds like you're saying things you want to be true I'm worried you guys are falling into self fulfilling prophecies here and going into an echo chamber. Never believe something simply because you enjoy it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 01/23/20 6:54:11 AM #24:	She is lying just like that mixed girl who claimed she shot a "pimp" in self defense when she murdered and robbed a sleeping customer and bragged about it to her friends But the "all women are victims" mob will eventually secure her release too. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:933362412] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>She is lying just like that mixed girl who claimed she shot a "pimp" in self defense when she murdered and robbed a sleeping customer and bragged about it to her friends But the "all women are victims" mob will eventually secure her release too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keith_Valentine 01/23/20 6:59:44 AM #25:	https://www.law.umich.edu/newsandinfo/features/Pages/starr_gender_disparities.aspx You are annoying. You dont actually exchange ideas, you dont want discussion, you just want some bitchass argument I dont care about winning. Boring. Ive actually been around in that hellhole, you on the other hand seem sheltered. Why dont you try fucking listening sometime? <cite>Keith_Valentine posted [p:933362472] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>https://www.law.umich.edu/newsandinfo/features/Pages/starr_gender_disparities.aspx You are annoying. You dont actually exchange ideas, you dont want discussion, you just want some bitchass argument I dont care about winning. Boring. Ive actually been around in that hellhole, you on the other hand seem sheltered. Why dont you try fucking listening sometime? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keith_Valentine 01/23/20 7:09:24 AM #26:	https://journalistsresource.org/studies/government/criminal-justice/courts-lenient-sentencing-bond-women/ <cite>Keith_Valentine posted [p:933362602] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>https://journalistsresource.org/studies/government/criminal-justice/courts-lenient-sentencing-bond-women/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 01/23/20 7:53:25 AM #27:	Stand Your Ground doesn't mean you get to kill a person hours after the fact and get away with it, and them trying to frame it as a burglary is incredibly dishonest --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:933363424] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Stand Your Ground doesn't mean you get to kill a person hours after the fact and get away with it, and them trying to frame it as a burglary is incredibly dishonest </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 01/23/20 8:04:35 AM #28:	I don't think someone should be immune from prosecution just cause they shouted 'stand your ground'. Seems like, as the article suggests, it's up to the court to decide if that point is valid and if so, to dismiss the charges. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:933363633] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>I don't think someone should be immune from prosecution just cause they shouted 'stand your ground'. Seems like, as the article suggests, it's up to the court to decide if that point is valid and if so, to dismiss the charges.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
oarphishmoe 01/23/20 4:09:16 PM #29:	Keith_Valentine posted... https://www.law.umich.edu/newsandinfo/features/Pages/starr_gender_disparities.aspx You are annoying. You dont actually exchange ideas, you dont want discussion, you just want some bitchass argument I dont care about winning. Boring. Ive actually been around in that hellhole, you on the other hand seem sheltered. Why dont you try fucking listening sometime? Keith_Valentine posted... https://journalistsresource.org/studies/government/criminal-justice/courts-lenient-sentencing-bond-women/ Got em --- New York Mets \| Syracuse Orange Basketball \| Miami Dolphins \| Miami Hurricanes Football http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/117/142/83d.gif <cite>oarphishmoe posted [p:933382334] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Keith_Valentine posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.law.umich.edu/newsandinfo/features/Pages/starr_gender_disparities.aspx You are annoying. You dont actually exchange ideas, you dont want discussion, you just want some bitchass argument I dont care about winning. Boring. Ive actually been around in that hellhole, you on the other hand seem sheltered. Why dont you try fucking listening sometime?</quote> Keith_Valentine posted... </cite> <quote>https://journalistsresource.org/studies/government/criminal-justice/courts-lenient-sentencing-bond-women/</quote> Got em </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 01/23/20 10:15:47 PM #30:	oarphishmoe posted... Got em UnfairRepresent posted... And he was never seen again --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:933397855] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>oarphishmoe posted... </cite> <quote>Got em</quote> UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>And he was never seen again</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mybbqrules 01/23/20 11:37:47 PM #32:	Keith_Valentine posted... Ive seen women with the exact same crimes as men do significantly less time. For no reason. Just look at the female sex offenders all over the news, like the teachers molesting students. I saw a duckbear topic earlier where the ladies bond was 25k! Thats stupid low for sexual assault, men get way worse and longer prison sentences. And in prison? Its like a living Hell for them. Which ftr doesnt bother me, they deserve it. But women definitely get the sweetest peach imo. Hell, they dont even say "rape" or "sexual assault" when they report a woman sex crime. It's always "had sex with" or "entered into a sexual relationship with". I remember a post recently where they actually pointed out an instance where they HAD referred to it as rape. It's so rare it warrants a topic. --- "Remember, it's called the 'American dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it." - George Carlin <cite>mybbqrules posted [p:933401025] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Keith_Valentine posted... </cite> <quote>Ive seen women with the exact same crimes as men do significantly less time. For no reason. Just look at the female sex offenders all over the news, like the teachers molesting students. I saw a duckbear topic earlier where the ladies bond was 25k! Thats stupid low for sexual assault, men get way worse and longer prison sentences. And in prison? Its like a living Hell for them. Which ftr doesnt bother me, they deserve it. But women definitely get the sweetest peach imo.</quote>Hell, they dont even say "rape" or "sexual assault" when they report a woman sex crime. It's always "had sex with" or "entered into a sexual relationship with". I remember a post recently where they actually pointed out an instance where they HAD referred to it as rape. It's so rare it warrants a topic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 01/25/20 12:57:26 AM #34:	Now that is standing your ground. --- Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is most likely the right one <cite>creativerealms posted [p:933448879] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Now that is standing your ground. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 01/26/20 2:30:51 PM #36:	UnfairRepresent posted... OJ Simpson and Jussie Smollet aren't white women. You don't know that. --- #DamagedDonald #LockTrumpUp <cite>Machete posted [p:933510788] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote> OJ Simpson and Jussie Smollet aren't white women.</quote> You don't know that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snip-N-Snails 01/27/20 11:03:32 PM #37:	Keith_Valentine posted... https://journalistsresource.org/studies/government/criminal-justice/courts-lenient-sentencing-bond-women/ Damn <cite>Snip-N-Snails posted [p:933581001] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Keith_Valentine posted... </cite> <quote>https://journalistsresource.org/studies/government/criminal-justice/courts-lenient-sentencing-bond-women/</quote>Damn </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 01/29/20 7:54:48 AM #39:	I, too, have had plenty of firsthand experience with the legal system and I disagree wholeheartedly with anyone saying the poor get off easy and frankly it was kind of boggling to actually see someone say that. As for the other topic, heres one example where women are sentenced more harshly than men: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/sep/24/rekha-kumari-baker-sentencing --- "It was some post on the NFL board that got him." -AwesomeToTheMAX <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:933636898] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>I, too, have had plenty of firsthand experience with the legal system and I disagree wholeheartedly with anyone saying the poor get off easy and frankly it was kind of boggling to actually see someone say that. As for the other topic, heres one example where women are sentenced more harshly than men: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/sep/24/rekha-kumari-baker-sentencing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keith_Valentine 01/29/20 8:38:05 AM #40:	Shablagoo posted... I, too, have had plenty of firsthand experience with the legal system and I disagree wholeheartedly with anyone saying the poor get off easy and frankly it was kind of boggling to actually see someone say that. As for the other topic, heres one example where women are sentenced more harshly than men: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/sep/24/rekha-kumari-baker-sentencing Oh yea Shaba? Tell me how bad poor criminals have it, in your opinion. What did you see in court while you were there on a traffic ticket? Or your misdemeanor weed possession. Also smh at your example of some bitch getting harsh sentencing for stabbing her children to death 70 times. <cite>Keith_Valentine posted [p:933637940] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>I, too, have had plenty of firsthand experience with the legal system and I disagree wholeheartedly with anyone saying the poor get off easy and frankly it was kind of boggling to actually see someone say that. As for the other topic, heres one example where women are sentenced more harshly than men: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/sep/24/rekha-kumari-baker-sentencing</quote> Oh yea Shaba? Tell me how bad poor criminals have it, in your opinion. What did you see in court while you were there on a traffic ticket? Or your misdemeanor weed possession. Also smh at your example of some bitch getting harsh sentencing for stabbing her children to death 70 times. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sackgurl 01/29/20 8:50:23 AM #41:	can we talk about this case the prosecution's position seems insane Pierce, the prosecutor, argued the case should go to trial. Brittany isnt entitled to immunity, Pierce said, because McCallie was the initial aggressor in the confrontation in Brittanys kitchen. Pierce also said Brittanys immunity request should be denied because Todd didnt have a deadly weapon. He said hands and fists dont qualify as deadly weapons. Threats arent enough, he said, to justify killing someone. like, the guy is strangling someone to death, he's turning blue, and shooting him is considered not defense? you'd think her brother's testimony would be sufficient for her acquittal i expect a lot of why this is even continuing is tied to her inability to keep the story straight early on. --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. <cite>Sackgurl posted [p:933638254] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>can we talk about this case the prosecution's position seems insane <quote>Pierce, the prosecutor, argued the case should go to trial. Brittany isnt entitled to immunity, Pierce said, because McCallie was the initial aggressor in the confrontation in Brittanys kitchen. Pierce also said Brittanys immunity request should be denied because Todd didnt have a deadly weapon. He said hands and fists dont qualify as deadly weapons. Threats arent enough, he said, to justify killing someone.</quote> like, the guy is strangling someone to death, he's turning blue, and shooting him is considered not defense? you'd think her brother's testimony would be sufficient for her acquittal i expect a lot of why this is even continuing is tied to her inability to keep the story straight early on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keith_Valentine 01/29/20 9:01:55 AM #42:	She drove with the dude after he beat her to get cigs from the store. She didnt seek help from the cop in the store but passed the cashier a note. I acknowledge she was abused and thats fucked. She shot the guy 4 times. Her brother brought the murder weapon to the crime scene, with intent to harm or kill. Yea, its complicated because she lied repeatedly. Including blaming the shooting on her brother. <cite>Keith_Valentine posted [p:933638559] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>She drove with the dude after he beat her to get cigs from the store. She didnt seek help from the cop in the store but passed the cashier a note. I acknowledge she was abused and thats fucked. She shot the guy 4 times. Her brother brought the murder weapon to the crime scene, with intent to harm or kill. Yea, its complicated because she lied repeatedly. Including blaming the shooting on her brother. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 01/29/20 9:05:01 AM #43:	Im not going to talk with a user who condescends like he knows anything about my life while at the same time expecting everyone else to believe all the vague details of his own. --- "It was some post on the NFL board that got him." -AwesomeToTheMAX <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:933638622] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Im not going to talk with a user who condescends like he knows anything about my life while at the same time expecting everyone else to believe all the vague details of his own. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpudForce 01/29/20 9:06:14 AM #44:	Lol Alabama proving once again why they are considered a backwards dump even by most of the south. --- And when he gets to Heaven, to St. Peter he will tell, one more soldier reporting sir, I have served my time in hell. <cite>SpudForce posted [p:933638648] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Lol Alabama proving once again why they are considered a backwards dump even by most of the south. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 01/29/20 9:09:46 AM #45:	Keith_Valentine posted... She drove with the dude after he beat her to get cigs from the store. She didnt seek help from the cop in the store but passed the cashier a note. I acknowledge she was abused and thats fucked. She shot the guy 4 times. Her brother brought the murder weapon to the crime scene, with intent to harm or kill. Yea, its complicated because she lied repeatedly. Including blaming the shooting on her brother. It is complicated sure, but at the end of the day a rape kit was done and verified 100% that this man raped her. This is an undeniable fact. --- https://i.imgtc.com/oKFWxht.jpg https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:933638727] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Keith_Valentine posted... </cite> <quote>She drove with the dude after he beat her to get cigs from the store. She didnt seek help from the cop in the store but passed the cashier a note. I acknowledge she was abused and thats fucked. She shot the guy 4 times. Her brother brought the murder weapon to the crime scene, with intent to harm or kill. Yea, its complicated because she lied repeatedly. Including blaming the shooting on her brother.</quote> It is complicated sure, but at the end of the day a rape kit was done and verified 100% that this man raped her. This is an undeniable fact. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 01/29/20 9:16:37 AM #46:	https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/06/21/us-criminal-justice-system-fuels-poverty-cycle https://equaljusticeunderlaw.org/overview https://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-bail-reform-20170816-story.html?_amp=true https://amp.delawareonline.com/amp/676361001 https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2018/dec/5/wealthy-upgrade-first-class-criminal-justice-experience/ https://qz.com/900777/the-us-bail-system-punishes-the-poor-and-rewards-the-rich/amp/ https://amp.ft.com/content/6064efde-dc46-11e8-8f50-cbae5495d92b --- "It was some post on the NFL board that got him." -AwesomeToTheMAX <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:933638911] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/06/21/us-criminal-justice-system-fuels-poverty-cycle https://equaljusticeunderlaw.org/overview https://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-bail-reform-20170816-story.html?_amp=true https://amp.delawareonline.com/amp/676361001 https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2018/dec/5/wealthy-upgrade-first-class-criminal-justice-experience/ https://qz.com/900777/the-us-bail-system-punishes-the-poor-and-rewards-the-rich/amp/ https://amp.ft.com/content/6064efde-dc46-11e8-8f50-cbae5495d92b </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keith_Valentine 01/29/20 9:17:08 AM #47:	Shablagoo posted... Im not going to talk with a user who condescends like he knows anything about my life while at the same time expecting everyone else to believe all the vague details of his own. That is one of the biggest cop outs ive ever seen on this board. I asked for your experience, and I was kinda a smartass, but youre choosing to not defend your position at all. So do you Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... It is complicated sure, but at the end of the day a rape kit was done and verified 100% that this man raped her. This is an undeniable fact. No it didnt. You didnt even read the article. It states she was definitely beaten but could not prove she was raped. <cite>Keith_Valentine posted [p:933638937] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>Im not going to talk with a user who condescends like he knows anything about my life while at the same time expecting everyone else to believe all the vague details of his own.</quote> That is one of the biggest cop outs ive ever seen on this board. I asked for your experience, and I was kinda a smartass, but youre choosing to not defend your position at all. So do you Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... </cite> <quote>It is complicated sure, but at the end of the day a rape kit was done and verified 100% that this man raped her. This is an undeniable fact.</quote> No it didnt. You didnt even read the article. It states she was definitely beaten but could not prove she was raped. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 01/29/20 9:25:59 AM #48:	Sackgurl posted... can we talk about this case the prosecution's position seems insane like, the guy is strangling someone to death, he's turning blue, and shooting him is considered not defense? you'd think her brother's testimony would be sufficient for her acquittal i expect a lot of why this is even continuing is tied to her inability to keep the story straight early on. No. It means him merely having hands doesn't mean he has a deadly weapon on him. If he was in the process of strangling someone, shooting him would be justified. But he wasnt. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:933639245] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Sackgurl posted... </cite> <quote>can we talk about this case the prosecution's position seems insane like, the guy is strangling someone to death, he's turning blue, and shooting him is considered not defense? you'd think her brother's testimony would be sufficient for her acquittal i expect a lot of why this is even continuing is tied to her inability to keep the story straight early on.</quote> No. It means him merely having hands doesn't mean he has a deadly weapon on him. If he was in the process of strangling someone, shooting him would be justified. But he wasnt. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 01/29/20 9:51:14 AM #49:	Keith_Valentine posted... No it didnt. You didnt even read the article. It states she was definitely beaten but could not prove she was raped. A sexual assault exam later found more than 30 injuries on Brittanys neck, chest, breast, legs, arms and feet. There were hand-print marks around her neck, finger-shaped marks on her inner thighs and bite marks on her neck and chin. Brittany also reported having difficulty swallowing and jaw pain. Yes, the examiner could not find incontrovertible evidence of rape, but the majority of the time they cannot. They found evidence of assault to the point of strangulation. If someone is strangling you, I think you can shoot them. --- https://i.imgtc.com/oKFWxht.jpg https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:933639960] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Keith_Valentine posted... </cite> <quote>No it didnt. You didnt even read the article. It states she was definitely beaten but could not prove she was raped.</quote> A sexual assault exam later found more than 30 injuries on Brittanys neck, chest, breast, legs, arms and feet. There were hand-print marks around her neck, finger-shaped marks on her inner thighs and bite marks on her neck and chin. Brittany also reported having difficulty swallowing and jaw pain. Yes, the examiner could not find incontrovertible evidence of rape, but the majority of the time they cannot. They found evidence of assault to the point of strangulation. If someone is strangling you, I think you can shoot them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keith_Valentine 01/29/20 9:51:36 AM #50:	Shablagoo posted... https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/06/21/us-criminal-justice-system-fuels-poverty-cycle https://equaljusticeunderlaw.org/overview https://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-bail-reform-20170816-story.html?_amp=true https://amp.delawareonline.com/amp/676361001 https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2018/dec/5/wealthy-upgrade-first-class-criminal-justice-experience/ https://qz.com/900777/the-us-bail-system-punishes-the-poor-and-rewards-the-rich/amp/ https://amp.ft.com/content/6064efde-dc46-11e8-8f50-cbae5495d92b Bro i actually read a lot of that, and it makes some really good points. I am all about sentencing and bail reform. The system is fucked up. And it does benefit people who have money. Not exactly surprising. But as to the point I was making? That poor people are just victims getting bull dogged by the system? Horseshit. Hell yea its unfair sometimes, but a lot of those people are guilty as Fuck. If you have a bond of several thousand dollars, you are already probably involved in some crazy shit. Ive seen so many guilty people get off after sitting in jail for awhile. Poor people have a ton of rights here. Right to counsel, remain silent, speedy trial, witnesses. Yea getting locked up sucks. But what the Hell did those people do that got them there in the first place? How come a majority of citizens live their lives without ever dealing with police and incarceration? For profit prisons and predatory probation guidelines make me Sick, and I could say a lot about that. But acting like the entire system is rotten? I dont believe that. Ive seen too many extra chances and too many people skating through the cracks. <cite>Keith_Valentine posted [p:933639972] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/06/21/us-criminal-justice-system-fuels-poverty-cycle https://equaljusticeunderlaw.org/overview https://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-bail-reform-20170816-story.html?_amp=true https://amp.delawareonline.com/amp/676361001 https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2018/dec/5/wealthy-upgrade-first-class-criminal-justice-experience/ https://qz.com/900777/the-us-bail-system-punishes-the-poor-and-rewards-the-rich/amp/ https://amp.ft.com/content/6064efde-dc46-11e8-8f50-cbae5495d92b</quote> Bro i actually read a lot of that, and it makes some really good points. I am all about sentencing and bail reform. The system is fucked up. And it does benefit people who have money. Not exactly surprising. But as to the point I was making? That poor people are just victims getting bull dogged by the system? Horseshit. Hell yea its unfair sometimes, but a lot of those people are guilty as Fuck. If you have a bond of several thousand dollars, you are already probably involved in some crazy shit. Ive seen so many guilty people get off after sitting in jail for awhile. Poor people have a ton of rights here. Right to counsel, remain silent, speedy trial, witnesses. Yea getting locked up sucks. But what the Hell did those people do that got them there in the first place? How come a majority of citizens live their lives without ever dealing with police and incarceration? For profit prisons and predatory probation guidelines make me Sick, and I could say a lot about that. But acting like the entire system is rotten? I dont believe that. Ive seen too many extra chances and too many people skating through the cracks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keith_Valentine 01/29/20 9:55:29 AM #51:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... A sexual assault exam later found more than 30 injuries on Brittanys neck, chest, breast, legs, arms and feet. There were hand-print marks around her neck, finger-shaped marks on her inner thighs and bite marks on her neck and chin. Brittany also reported having difficulty swallowing and jaw pain. Yes, the examiner could not find incontrovertible evidence of rape, but the majority of the time they cannot. They found evidence of assault to the point of strangulation. If someone is strangling you, I think you can shoot them. Yea but you just changed your story from she was '100% raped'. And the conditions of when she actually shot the guy are unclear. Her brother brought the gun into play. She shot an unarmed man 4 times and lied about it. He was a meth junkie piece of shit, and im not sad hes dead. But she was no angel and her story is suspect. <cite>Keith_Valentine posted [p:933640098] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... </cite> <quote>A sexual assault exam later found more than 30 injuries on Brittanys neck, chest, breast, legs, arms and feet. There were hand-print marks around her neck, finger-shaped marks on her inner thighs and bite marks on her neck and chin. Brittany also reported having difficulty swallowing and jaw pain. Yes, the examiner could not find incontrovertible evidence of rape, but the majority of the time they cannot. They found evidence of assault to the point of strangulation. If someone is strangling you, I think you can shoot them.</quote> Yea but you just changed your story from she was '100% raped'. And the conditions of when she actually shot the guy are unclear. Her brother brought the gun into play. She shot an unarmed man 4 times and lied about it. He was a meth junkie piece of shit, and im not sad hes dead. But she was no angel and her story is suspect. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sackgurl 01/29/20 9:58:53 AM #52:	_RETS_ posted... If he was in the process of strangling someone, shooting him would be justified. But he wasnt. er, isn't her story precisely that he was? isn't it corroborated by her brother? Todd beat the hell out of her brother and pulled him into a headlock, Brittany told the judge. Brittany testified that she believed McCallie couldnt breathe. He started turning blue, Brittany testified, so she grabbed his gun from the kitchen island and repeatedly yelled for Todd to let her brother go. Brittany said under oath that she shot twice at Todd, but nothing happened. After the third shot, Brittany testified, Todd and her brother fell to the ground. McCallie grabbed the gun, and Brittany testified, she called 911. he apparently had 4 gunshot wounds, but it seems more reasonable that she miscounted the initial shots than that one of them executed the guy afterward or something --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. <cite>Sackgurl posted [p:933640210] in Alabama wo... [t:78353803]...</cite> <quote>_RETS_ posted... </cite> <quote>If he was in the process of strangling someone, shooting him would be justified. But he wasnt.</quote> er, isn't her story precisely that he was? isn't it corroborated by her brother? <quote>Todd beat the hell out of her brother and pulled him into a headlock, Brittany told the judge. Brittany testified that she believed McCallie couldnt breathe. He started turning blue, Brittany testified, so she grabbed his gun from the kitchen island and repeatedly yelled for Todd to let her brother go. Brittany said under oath that she shot twice at Todd, but nothing happened. After the third shot, Brittany testified, Todd and her brother fell to the ground. McCallie grabbed the gun, and Brittany testified, she called 911.</quote> he apparently had 4 gunshot wounds, but it seems more reasonable that she miscounted the initial shots than that one of them executed the guy afterward or something </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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