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ScareChan
01/25/20 9:26:06 PM
#201:


when they took off wolfe I think I heard the ref say there was a lump in his throat

this Barthel guy, everytime I see him, all I can think of is like a 007 torture villain

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Steiner
01/26/20 6:42:23 AM
#202:


ScareChan posted...
4way was great, has to be an early moty contender

lmao please watch something that isn't wwe

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Steiner
01/26/20 6:44:04 AM
#203:


anyway my worlds collide ratings;

ilja vs. finn - 3
cruiserweight 4 way - 4.25
diy vs moustache mountain - 4
rhea vs toni - 2.5
imperium vs undisputed - 4


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Steiner
01/26/20 6:53:43 AM
#204:


by the way if you thought the 4 way was a moty contender go back and watch Devlin vs. Bate from NXT UK Takeover which I have at the same level but thought was a touch better

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ZeroSignal620
01/26/20 9:50:37 AM
#205:


My final picks for the Rumble

Reigns wins Men's Rumble (McIntyre eliminates Lesnar to set up THAT match at Wrestlemania)
Baszler wins Women's Rumble (though seriously think Rousey wins if this one main events)
Fiend over Bryan
Becky over Asuka
Bayley over Evans
Corbin over Reigns
Sheamus over Gable
Humberto over Andrade (DQ)

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paulg235
01/26/20 10:19:29 AM
#206:


My expectation
Reigns wins the Men's Rumble last eliminating Cain Velasquez
Shanya wins the Women's Rumble last eliminating Nia Jax
Fiend retains
Becky retains
Roman wins
Sheamus wins
Lacey wins via DQ
Andrade wins

My preference
Andrade wins
Match is thrown out after Bayley delivers brutal attack to Evans to the outside that doesn't disqualify her, but leaves Evans in no condition to compete.
Shorty G wins via rollup but Sheamus destroys him afterwards
Roman beats Corbin in less than a minute, Corbin throws a tantrum for 5 minutes
Fiend wins within 2 minutes after Corbin assaulted Bryan as the latter was making their way to the ring
Asuka wins the title after a masked individual runs in and costs Becky the title.
Ronda wins the Women's Rumble after last eliminating Charlotte
Men's Rumble option 1: The Fiend wins after last eliminating Lesnar, setting up title vs title at Mania
Men's Rumble option 2: Adam Cole wins after last eliminating Drew McIntyre
Men's Rumble option 3: Buddy Murphy wins after backstabbing Seth Rollins

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Eddv
01/26/20 12:40:10 PM
#207:


I like that paulgs best case scenario for this card is for there to just be boatloads of non finishes.

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paulg235
01/26/20 12:57:49 PM
#208:


Eddv posted...
I like that paulgs best case scenario for this card is for there to just be boatloads of non finishes.
Hey, I am at the very least trying to set up a bunch of WM storylines, whether they are good ideas or not. I admit some of these sound bad on paper or would lead to matches people might not care about, but I would rather try taking some risks. Not to mention, we have two royal rumble matches, so having a few shorts matches aren't a bad idea if they lead to something.

Though the fact I am suggesting these non finishes as my "preferred" take probably goes to show how little faith I have in WWE nowadays.

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Fastbreak
01/26/20 5:50:30 PM
#209:


Steiner posted...
by the way if you thought the 4 way was a moty contender go back and watch Devlin vs. Bate from NXT UK Takeover which I have at the same level but thought was a touch better

I enjoyed that one too, but I liked this one better

But this established Devlin as a real guy to me. He has all the tools they would want in a guy I would think. Small though

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Tom Bombadil
01/26/20 5:52:46 PM
#210:


So are we supposed to take shorty g remotely seriously or what

Also where are the lights

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Strife2
01/26/20 5:55:37 PM
#211:


Tom Bombadil posted...
So are we supposed to take shorty g remotely seriously or what

Also where are the lights

No. Why do you think Vince gave him the name?

"People like a guy when we don't want them to? PUT THEM IN A STUPID OUTFIT!"

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Tom Bombadil
01/26/20 7:12:25 PM
#212:


Starting with the bathroom break match

A bold strategy

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PrivateBiscuit1
01/26/20 7:12:42 PM
#213:


Watching not-so-legally because giving WWE money is awful.

Holy shit, I can't believe they're actually still doing anything with Baron fucking Corbin. lmao

And I forgot how much I hated WWE commentary. It feels WORSE after I've spent so long away from it.

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Strife2
01/26/20 7:21:56 PM
#214:


Can they go backstage or go somewhere nuts yet?

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Strife2
01/26/20 7:25:14 PM
#215:


"This is just chaos."

Shut up Cole. This is like eating paper.

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Strife2
01/26/20 7:35:23 PM
#216:


That's it? They had free reign to go and do anything, and that's it?

Not even a baseball bat.

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RaidenGarai
01/26/20 7:57:17 PM
#217:


Did Corbin get cheap heat by referencing the sign stealing and wires?

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FFDragon
01/26/20 8:28:21 PM
#218:


Beth is basically bleeding out

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X_Dante_X
01/26/20 8:33:15 PM
#219:


i can't believe beth is still conscious

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Strife2
01/26/20 8:36:09 PM
#220:


Bleh

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Tom Bombadil
01/26/20 8:36:17 PM
#221:


RaidenGarai posted...
Did Corbin get cheap heat by referencing the sign stealing and wires?

Dolph hit somebody with a trash can

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Strife2
01/26/20 8:40:26 PM
#222:


Well, let's hope this is one of those "Vince got his winner" things and doesn't fuck up the Men's Rumble.

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paulg235
01/26/20 8:44:15 PM
#223:


Charlotte was inevitably going to win at least one of these, anyway. Might as well get it out of the way.

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01/26/20 9:08:38 PM
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Strife2
01/26/20 9:29:42 PM
#225:


Take the stupid lights away, less finisher spam, and a reason to care. Way to learn how to make a Fiend match work this time.

And the match wasn't great, but god only knows how godawful Reigns/Fiend will be. The ceiling is "not shit" now.

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ShatteredElysium
01/26/20 10:00:51 PM
#226:


Haven't watched in quite some time and just tuned in out of curiosity after the Basketball game. I don't understand the ref stepping in to see if Becky is knocked out and not letting Asuka just pin her in that situation.
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Jakyl25
01/26/20 10:02:28 PM
#227:


Thats how it works now. Asuka can push the issue with a pinfall attempt if she can get past the ref but the ref has to know at all times if someone can continue or if the match needs to be stopped
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FFDragon
01/26/20 10:25:46 PM
#228:


Lmao so far

Just lmao

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Tom Bombadil
01/26/20 10:26:31 PM
#229:


We're really doing this huh

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paulg235
01/26/20 10:27:24 PM
#230:


So Lesnar is obviously lasting until at least #16 to break the record.

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FFDragon
01/26/20 10:28:36 PM
#231:


Dancing Brock best Brock

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ninkendo
01/26/20 10:37:25 PM
#232:


I'm so happy that Brock's weakness continues to be the dick kick

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ninkendo
01/26/20 10:47:43 PM
#233:


hey it's Canadian Actor Adam Copeland

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ShatteredElysium
01/26/20 10:55:10 PM
#234:


Is it just me or are these cameras shit? They don't show you the eliminations until like the dude is already out so you have no idea what happened.
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ninkendo
01/26/20 10:58:36 PM
#235:


WWE is all about constantly shifting camera angles so you don't know what's happening

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ninkendo
01/26/20 11:06:58 PM
#236:


they totally cut away right when Edge hit a spear

like that had to be on purpose

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ninkendo
01/26/20 11:10:26 PM
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FFDragon
01/26/20 11:10:29 PM
#238:


Aw yeah

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paulg235
01/26/20 11:11:37 PM
#239:


I never really got the appeal with Drew McIntyre... Until now.

That match made me a believer.

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FFDragon
01/26/20 11:12:42 PM
#240:


I'm hyped for 3MB to continue collecting world titles.

Slater when?

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Jakyl25
01/26/20 11:18:03 PM
#241:


paulg235 posted...
I never really got the appeal with Drew McIntyre... Until now.

That match made me a believer.


Vince used his special formula of getting the Rumble winner over by making Roman the final elimination

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TheRock1525
01/26/20 11:20:39 PM
#242:


I didn't watch the Royal Rumble this year.

Vince you son of a bitch.

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ninkendo
01/26/20 11:21:14 PM
#243:


I can say for certainty that was the best WWE PPV of 2020


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Strife2
01/26/20 11:24:37 PM
#244:


Just when you think WWE just can't do anything right, they got dragged kicking and screaming into the right decision. They've been waiting, and waiting, and waiting on that Drew push, and they finally went with it.

Now they just have to make it stick, and get that fucking title off Lesnar.

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TheRock1525
01/26/20 11:27:59 PM
#245:


Like I was fucking ecstatic when Becky Lynch won last year.

But this. After cancelling my subscription to the Network and generally not watching much WWE TV outside of NXT, I'm fucking ready to buy a ticket to WM and drive to Tampa right fucking now.

This is the happiest I've been about wrestling since Rock came back in 2011.

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Mega Mana
01/26/20 11:29:11 PM
#246:


FFDragon posted...
I'm hyped for 3MB to continue collecting world titles.

Slater when?

YESSS

Also, first off, I just want to say how great that run with Brock Lesnar was. They made a 'one man eliminates everyone as they come in' story WORK.

#2. Elias - He pokes fun. He knows he's going in the ring with Brock, he's the sacrificial lamb, he jokes around and pisses the beast off, and gets a big splintering guitar shot and an easy, but memorable first elimination.

#3. Erick Rowan - Okay, we might get what's in the cage stuff. That'd be dumb, but okay. Nope, big man goes in, big man goes out. Fodder #2.

#4. Robert Roode - Okay, they're feeding the Beast. I got it. Roode could maybe put up a fight, but no. Goodbye.

#5. John Morrison - Alright, he came back early, so he might stick around for a bit! Do some parkour and keep himself alive, especially since he's freshly back! Oh, wow. I didn't expect him to go THAT fast. Anything really can happen.

#6. Kofi - Here's where it starts getting great. Kofi comes in with FIRE and goes at Brock with the most offense so far. He's taken care of, but Brock's gonna play with him. Okay, okay, we've got our hope spots!

#7. Rey Mysterio - More Brock beef! Kofi and Rey teaming up? I'm down! Let's do this!

#8. Big E - Yes! Big E, Kofi, and Rey! All with their finishers! They're taking the Beast down! Kofimania baybee! Kofi- what?! No, Rey! Big E! Well, Kofi can be saved! Kofi always gets- O_O

#9. Cesaro - ...Ok, Okay! Yeah, Cesaro's gonna get some shine this year! Yeah European uppercuts! Come on Swiss To- oh no...

#10. Shelton Benjamin - Fodder, but okay, Paul Heyman and Brock are enjoying him, okay maybe there'll be something? Cool, hug it out... yeah, Brock tossed him, but that was a nice change of pace for a moment. Well done.

#11. Shinsuke Nakamura - Alright! IC Champ, former Royal Rumble champ, history with Brock in Japan! Let's go! Kinsh-... Damn! Brock's running through everyone!!! Who's gonna take him down?!

#12. MVP - WHAT?! MVP?!?! DANCING BROCK?! There he goes! Okay, okay. Who the hell is next? Undertaker?!

#13. KEITH LEE - YESSSSSS!!! Brock mouthing, "Who's this mother****er?" Sizing up! TAKING BROCK OFF HIS FEET! BASK IN HIS GLORY!

#14. Strowman - First audible groan, but still three hosses, that should be able to get Lesnar out, right? We'll get some- NO LEE Noooooo....

#15. Ricochet - Okay, fine, Ricochet can get fed. He was a chump the other night... oh, Brock's keeping him as prey. Cool. He'll be gone soon.

#16. Drew McIntyre - ...Ooh, okay... okayt, I can get behind this. Let's go Drew! Let's go Drew! LET'S GO DREW! YEAH, COME ON DR- LOW BLOW! CLAYMORE!!! YESSSSS!!!!!

Like, I'm putting this down right now as immediate reaction because who knows what the future prognosis of the match will be. "It was so boring. Brock just eliminated everyone one-by-one. The match didn't really even start until halfway through." To those future naysayers and cynics, I say thee NAY!

Edit: Like, just switch the first half of the card with the last half, and it wouldn't be anywhere near as good. Very well booked train into Brock.

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scarletspeed7
01/26/20 11:32:24 PM
#247:


Mega Mana posted...
Like, I'm putting this down right now as immediate reaction because who knows what the future prognosis of the match will be. "It was so boring. Brock just eliminated everyone one-by-one. The match didn't really even start until halfway through." To those future naysayers and cynics, I say thee NAY!
This was an excellent run because of Brock's character work and the storytelling. Running through three IWGP IC champions in a row, the cockiness with Lee, overcoming the team-up of legitimate rivals who had a chance... there was actual intricacy to this run.

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Jakyl25
01/26/20 11:35:43 PM
#248:


Shelton was never IWGP IC Champ!
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Jakyl25
01/26/20 11:36:35 PM
#249:


I do want to say though, LOL Morrison for coming back for this

Hope it was a nice payday
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Strife2
01/26/20 11:37:14 PM
#250:


The entire point of this match was to use Lesnar as a vehicle to get the next guy over. Had Lesnar won, it would have been the stupidest fucking thing outside of the 15 Rumble, where WWE just had NO ONE left that anyone wanted to win. But the story was, "Lesnar doesn't want to defend his title at a "token" Rumble match anymore," so he got fucked. Reigns winning this year would have been like Rollins last year: safe, if annoying. but No. They used the fear of status quo to do something they probably SHOULD have done since Drew came back: strap the rocket on him, but hey. Better late than never.

Reigns probably doesn't need a Rumble win ever in his life to be a credible threat, so this is how they should use Reigns: "ANYONE BUT YOU" is a legit thing they can use every single year to do things just like this. But the final 5-6 guys after Corbin and Ziggler were eliminated were people the crowd would have accepted as winners. Freaking Edge man. Hot damn.

WWE can still surprise.

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