Current Events > ITT: I play Kingdom Come Deliverance (ongoing spoilers)

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First time through. I don't remember hearing much about it other than:

1) awkward combat
2) no black people in it

Not expecting too much, but hopefully it'll be a decent romp with better combat than Skyrim.

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Why

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It's an amazing game. It's not easy. Very realistic simulation.

I didn't know this was a first-person game. Or that I had to expend items to save. Haha...ha ha.......ha...

The game looks nice, at least. Too bad the main character reminds me of the guy playing Shaggy in live-action Scooby Doo.



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You can save in beds for free.
I never got good at melee combat so I just went with stealth and bow. I think you're supposed to learn the combos or something to have melee work better? Fists are actually okay too.

Also the game opens up a lot after a fairly lengthy prologue.

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henry is a good boi. also great game enjoy. it's meant to be LARP'd tho. i reckon it's not for everyone but for fun's sake try to LARP as much as possible. don' t take quests all at once and have like 3 dozen quests before doing it. do it one by one. use your bed. wake up in the morning, find food, do your job, go back home, sleep. if story/quest have you visit other town, book a room at inn, et cetera.


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Bianca won't sell me the ale! Haha! GLITCHING!

Good to know I can use beds instead of these potions. I noticed they sell for a lot.

apolloooo posted...

henry is a good boi. also great game enjoy. it's meant to be LARP'd tho. i reckon it's not for everyone but for fun's sake try to LARP as much as possible. don' t take quests all at once and have like 3 dozen quests before doing it. do it one by one. use your bed. wake up in the morning, find food, do your job, go back home, sleep. if story/quest have you visit other town, book a room at inn, et cetera.

What better way to roleplay than stealth archering your way through!

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Shotgunnova posted...

Bianca won't sell me the ale! Haha! GLITCHING!

Good to know I can use beds instead of these potions. I noticed they sell for a lot.

What better way to roleplay than stealth archering your way through!

You say that now, archery in this game is extremely fucking difficult. Fun, but difficult.

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ScazarMeltex posted...

You say that now, archery in this game is extremely fucking difficult. Fun, but difficult.

it's also strong af when you get the handle of it. the only way to wipe group of enemies.

1 vs 3 is the most you can engage in melee, which is realistic-ish (3 would be very difficult even for a swordmaster) more than that you are dead


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apolloooo posted...

it's also strong af when you get the handle of it. the only way to wipe group of enemies.

1 vs 3 is the most you can engage in melee, which is realistic-ish (3 would be very difficult even for a swordmaster) more than that you are dead

Oh I don't disagree. This game really hammers home that fighting more than one opponent in melee is incredibly difficult and dangerous.

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Enjoy seeing people with floating arms and heads as you ride by on your horse and the worst lock on system in existence. I remember seeing all kinds of people saying "Don't worry they'll fix the game". Lol yeah they sure fixed it alright

I was following it for a long time before it came out but it released a glitchy mess so I passed on it. I heard recently they fixed it up really well and also found out they just released a version with all the DLC so I grabbed it on black friday. Looking forward to playing it.

Can't believe I had to turn to the internet to figure out a friggin' tutorial mission, but I finally found the culprit. The chick won't sell you papa's ale unless you also (for some reason) steal the cheapskate's axe. This doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere in the mission, so...that sucks. It's over with now, though, and I got a date with the barmaid! Henry's heart is the first 25 seconds of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yigeqIohNL4

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Oops, my parents got a WWE-style smackdown. I think the more pressing issue is...what happened to my bae, Bianca? And her rival, Theresa? She definitely wanted some of hunka hunka burnin' peasant. (*points at self, dirty tunic, manure-stained hands*)



Also like how the aftermath of my parents' slaughter went.

Soldier: Run, Henry! You can make it!
Henry: (runs over)
Soldier: (lifts drawbridge)



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Bianca's pushing up daisies, but it looks like Theresa's still alive. She has DLC, after all.

Anyway, made it to Talmberg and now have to sneak out to go bury my kin. I had a longer reply ready, but GameFAQs ate it, so now I'm not going to type it all out again. Suffice to say, it's time to do some lockpicking to find armor in that garrison tower.

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the lockpicking is an absolute nightmare. that's like the one thing i remember. that, and god help you if you're out at night.

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I bought a lockpick and tried opening it, but it mangled it. To boot, the game didn't save when I slept last, so now I have to go do all this crap over again. Skyrim was oversimplified in many ways, but you gotta admit, its lockpicking minigame was pretty decent. You'd think more games would've seen it and improved on it, rather than making some weird abomination instead.

If it's this hard on a "very easy" lock, I'm not looking forward to the hard ones.

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Shotgunnova posted...

I bought a lockpick and tried opening it, but it mangled it. To boot, the game didn't save when I slept last, so now I have to go do all this crap over again. Skyrim was oversimplified in many ways, but you gotta admit, its lockpicking minigame was pretty decent. You'd think more games would've seen it and improved on it, rather than making some weird abomination instead.

If it's this hard on a "very easy" lock, I'm not looking forward to the hard ones.

That sequence is tough. Very frustrating.

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I wandered around and know where all the rooms and stuff are, so at least there's no confusion there. Might have to start drinking these saviour spirits (or whatever they're called) for on-the-spot saving to do this, 'cause I'm not going to loot my benefactors and buy lockpicks 20 times in a row, like I did for the "find the ale" portion.

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It felt like a bunch of jank Skyrim mods more than an actual game

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They added an option awhile back to make lock picking a little easier. It's in one of the option menus but you have to turn it on. It still sucks but it's slightly less terrible. I was playing around the time the update dropped and it made it so I was at least able to at least do some of the very easy ones and up my lock pick skill.

Also, there are multiple ways to complete most quests. Some are more roundabout but you can often avoid aspects of the game that you're bad at or dont find fun. Like someone else mentioned it's better to rp instead of really trying to control the story. Just go with your choices and deal with the consequences of your failures.

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I agree with that Skyrim sentiment. It may have been a vastly simplified game in comparison to KC:D, but it's a much more accessible, much more fun game to play. It's a real shame, because I had such high hopes for the game before it came out :/

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Kingdom Come makes Skyrim and really all Bethesda games seem bug free. Lockpicking is actually really easy with the simplified version of holding down a button. A few skill levels and select perks and you won't even break it on very hard locks

EverDownward posted...

I agree with that Skyrim sentiment. It may have been a vastly simplified game in comparison to KC:D, but it's a much more accessible, much more fun game to play. It's a real shame, because I had such high hopes for the game before it came out :/

it's much much better than skyrim, then again it met my expectations that it's bascially a medieval LARP game. sure it is not easy to pickup than skyrim, but it is exactly what i am looking for. more complex, immersive experience

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I played it a bit of that once and I needed to buy coal for my dad or something. However I spent all my money on something else and didn't have any more, and didn't know how to earn more so I just gave up.

That was only like 15 minutes in or something.

Great game

Especially when you bang the wench

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I put a good 30 or so hours in. Never got use to the combat. Eventually I got tired of trying.

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Yeah, I'm gonna have to change the lockpicking method to the classic one, 'cause this system is jank incarnate. It seems you're supposed to find the sweet spot, then move it at the same time you're rotating the lock. But, half the time, the rotation isn't even happening, so you just keep losing the S.S. and messing things up (the lockpick is detereorating + making noise).

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Alright, broke out of town now. I'm walking the whole way there so far, so we'll see if that's indeed a stupid idea. Gonna pluck roadside herbs on the way to maybe sell later.

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Is it possible to win the fight against the dude with a club? He somehow managed to get away with my sword, despite having heavy armor and cavalry cutting down all his friends.

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Shotgunnova posted...

Is it possible to win the fight against the dude with a club? He somehow managed to get away with my sword, despite having heavy armor and cavalry cutting down all his friends.

is this the bald guy who stole your sword? iirc it was scripted. you can win but the cutscene plays the same with some little dialogue variant

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Alright, I agreed to help the miller (Chef Boyardee-looking dude) to get a ring back via graverobbing. Turns out, the executioner dude probably pocketed the ring, and the game seems to suggest that getting it back via dialogue is gonna be hard. So, I'm going to train lockpicking on this dude's chest (like Skyrim, you get EXP even when the lockpick breaks) for awhile, since it's free.

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Speaking of fighting, just an FYI you'll be trained how to properly fight during a main mission in the game. Until that point combat is incredibly difficult because your moves are limited.

I only mention this because in my first playthrough I kept doing sidequests without advancing the main story too much and was wondering why every time I got into combat it was kicking my ass.

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Yeah, combat's been a bit iffy so far. Doing fisticuffs with that dude who wanted to beat the dog with a shovel was surprisingly hard, especially since he kept kneeing me. I don't really want to ignore a bunch of stuff until the game teaches my dude how not to be a squire-tier fighter, though.

Also, the miller won't teach me how to lockpick anymore. I thought this was supposed to be a good way to train the skill, but it seems to be off the table...unless it's a nighttime-only thing. Maybe it'll respawn after a few days or something.

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Is it a good idea to do a bunch of herbalism stuff until you can learn Leg Day (picking flowers gives Strength EXP)? This seems pretty good, but if it's going to be barely any gains, maybe I'll get some other stuff first.

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I'm playing on PS4, so I don't think mods are available. Shame, since the picking animation is both generic and useless.

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I had the miller teach me pickpocketing, but then I asked Theresa to tell how she escaped, and...I think I accidentally started her DLC. Not sure if that's right or it's just some small segment where I play as her. Almost just reloaded before remembering I had a ton of herbs to sell, so guess I'm stuck doing this. On the bright side, it seems the miller helps Henry practice his roguish skills at night, not during work hours.

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What really screwed me up on this was the lockpicking. I got to a point where I couldn't progress without picking this chest and I could not do it. I just couldn't do it. They did release a patch to make it easier but by that time I was mostly checked out. I'd like to pick it up again.

So far, this DLC is only confirming that Theresa = bae. Kicking Henry's ass in a swordfight proves it.

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Wow, Theresa almost got raped because Zbyshek pushed into the Cumans and escaped by his lonesome? I'm going to enjoy feeding this dude to the wolves. Too bad she can't use any type of armor, male though it may be. She just throat-stabbed a guard and took all his mail, but still has to use slippers and stuff -- it kinda sucks.

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Yeah the Theresa DLC is basically a stealth segment (In a game whose stealth mechanics are iffy at best >_>). At least you get your own dog after completing it that will make hunting as simple as pointing at a rabbit and saying go fetch that shit

Don't know if you're playing hardcore but using a bow was a real pain in the ass on that mode once it got farther than a few feet in front of you

Yeah, archery ain't all it's cracked up to be. Trying to hit that magpie's nest took me 8 arrows, lol. The more I play this game, the most all the stabs at realism just seem to get in the way. Don't even want to think of how Hardcore mode would go, honestly.

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DuranOfForcena posted...

like most things, archery is kind of a chore in the early game when Henry is unskilled, but gets much easier to do as you level it.

Nah it's shit regardless

Oh, you press left on d-pad to use your sword and hold it to use your torch. I thought it was just the torch button, so Theresa went through her DLC as a bowman with a couple arrows, constantly getting slashed while her pupper was doing all the legwork. Would've been nice to remember that sooner.

As for archery, anything that needs 10+ levels to not be hot garbage is hard to view favorably. Might go melee for awhile and try doing a lot of sneaky stuff. Not having archery heavy in that mix will hurt (my Skyrim playthroughs almost demand it here), but we'll see how it goes.

Since I haven't done any pics in awhile, here's a bunch.







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