Current Events > Mark Ruffalo: capitalism is failing us, killing us

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emblem boy posted...

Regarding the whole, "why doesn't he just donate his money " thing. I'm curious,if he did, wouldn't people just say that's just showing that capitalism and charitable work are what's needed. Him doing that wouldn't really be a slight against capitalism

Yeah, he should give his money to the government if he believes they are the best at using it

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I found this on reddit discussing mark:

What people are referring to is actually not capitalism. Its coopertism. Coopertism is the opposite of free market capitalism because it depends on collusion between well-connected large corporations and the state: exactly the opposite of a free market. Socialists constantly call for government to implement more regulations but big corporations actually lobby for more government regulation, as well because they can afford the costs. Small and medium sized companies cant afford the costs so they go out of business. Government regulation helps big corporations strangle smaller competitors and eliminate competition.

Never heard of coopertism before lol.
Next guy said he means crony capitalism.

MC_BatCommander posted...

Why does someone being wealthy disqualify them from the discussion?

Did I say he couldnt participate in the discussion lol?

I merely inferred hes a hypocritical Hollywood moron. Nope nothing capitalistic about Hollywood

Really though if your going to be blatantly dense best not to post at all, mate.

HellRatUFO posted...

Paper_Okami posted...

Conservatives are actually leftists is one of the dumbest things i've ever seen on this board

Trump Administration:

- Tax increases worth billions of dollars.

- More gun control implemented than the previous administration.

- Higher deficit spending than the previous administration.

- For the pro-life crowd that voted for him because he identified as pro-life, signing bloated spending omnibuses that included continued full federal funding of Planned Parenthood.

- Multiple welfare bailouts to a demographic that were directly impacted the most from ridiculous tax increases.

- Advocation for mandated min wage laws, even going as far as to state it needs to be much higher than $15 per hour.

But right, Donald Trump, a man that was previously registered as a Democrat with his children not being able to vote for him in the New York primary last cycle because they were registered as Democrats, isnt a leftist that implements left-wing economic policy points lol.

Where are you getting this shit? Especially the last part.
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gamer167 posted...

MC_BatCommander posted...

Why does someone being wealthy disqualify them from the discussion?

Did I say he couldnt participate in the discussion lol?

I merely inferred hes a hypocritical Hollywood moron. Nope nothing capitalistic about Hollywood

Really though if your going to be blatantly dense best not to post at all, mate.

Why does being wealthy make him a hypocrite? Do you have to be poor to properly criticize capitalism? You're seemingly flustered by this, relax.
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emblem boy posted...

Regarding the whole, "why doesn't he just donate his money " thing. I'm curious,if he did, wouldn't people just say that's just showing that capitalism and charitable work are what's needed. Him doing that wouldn't really be a slight against capitalism

His money isn't enough to help everyone but it would show he actually cares about the cause of helping people more than the accolades of saying something people agree with while he sips champagne in a mansion.

Paper_Okami posted...

"When I was poor and complained about inequality they said I was bitter; now that I'm rich and I complain about inequality they say I'm a hypocrite. I'm beginning to think they just don't want to talk about inequality.

Russell Brand

@gamer167

Unknown5uspect posted...

Paper_Okami posted...

"When I was poor and complained about inequality they said I was bitter; now that I'm rich and I complain about inequality they say I'm a hypocrite. I'm beginning to think they just don't want to talk about inequality.

Russell Brand

@gamer167

gee, maybe if he did more than complain people would have taken him seriously. actions speak louder than words

Hollywood guy: "capitalism bad!"

also Hollywood guy: *buys Cars, mansions, yachts, etc*

say what you want but its still hipocrisy in my book...

Brand actually realizes they were right about him being a hypocrite and is giving away his wealth fyi.

But keep quoting that.

ITT:

"We should improve society somewhat"
"And yet you participate in society? How curious. I am very intelligent."
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pinky0926 posted...

ITT:

"We should improve society somewhat"
"And yet you participate in society? How curious. I am very intelligent."

Lmao
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darkphoenix181 posted...

His money isn't enough to help everyone but it would show he actually cares about the cause of helping people more than the accolades of saying something people agree with while he sips champagne in a mansion.

Is there any reason to assume no rich people give to charity and just say nice words while sipping champagne? Not that charity necessarily means anything anyway. People can easily donate their time and money to specific pet causes or causes that actually damage society.

And we can please settle on what rich people are? Are they a blight on society that do nothing good or are they the movers and shakers who should not be punished for their success? Seems to depend on whether or not we want to insult the libs

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pinky0926 posted...

ITT:

"We should improve society somewhat"
"And yet you participate in society? How curious. I am very intelligent."

that's all they ever fucking do


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Trump has given a number of contradictory statements on whether he would support increasing the federal minimum wage.

In 2015, Trump said he wanted to keep the minimum wage pretty much where it is right now in an interview with MSNBC, and two months later told Fox News that a New York proposal to raise its lowest wage to $15 an hour was too high. But in November and December of that year, Trump said wages were too low and told Fox News he supported a $15 hourly wage.

The following year, Trump said alternatively that he did not support any federal minimum wage and that he supported raising the federal level to $10 an hour.

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Duncanwii posted...

Socialism is just as bad, if not worse, then Capitalism.

You are clueless about everything, especially this

HellRatUFO posted...

Now that's what I call a hot fucking take

I'm not sure where you get your definition of leftism but that ain't it

https://babylonbee.com/news/conservative-slams-liberals-for-supporting-policies-hell-support-five-years-from-now

I wouldn't be surprised if all of your opinions could be presented as satire pieces if I'm being completely honest

Paper_Okami posted...

Conservatives are actually leftists is one of the dumbest things i've ever seen on this board

Pretty much. Along with the claim that capitalism is a natural system of separating the smart from the poor

I guess with Proudclad and Addy gone, there needs to be another red scare conservative here to shit up the board
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Oh no homeboy watches Turning Points videos.

Turning Points literally peddles in misinformation
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HellRatUFO posted...

@MarqueeSeries

Ill make it easy and provide the definition for you.

Capitalism: The private ownership and free and voluntary exchange of goods and services.

From this point on after youve read this post, anything other than that is just you purposely being ignorant.

You post a lot for not really saying anything of substance

I've seen you post this exact line multiple times

Like, congrats, you know how ctrl v works. You're not convincing anyone
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pinky0926 posted...

ITT:

"We should improve society somewhat"
"And yet you participate in society? How curious. I am very intelligent."

I'm sorry did he say we should improve society somewhat or did he make the ridiculous claim that capitalism is failing and killing us, and then call for an economic revolution? Stop advocating for shit that's killed millions and people will stop calling you out.

Nah, capitalism's fine.
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"America is failing its people"

"Oh so you're saying we need to end America through a bloody coup? Nice communism, comrade."

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If you don't have money and you criticize capitalism, you just want to leech off of other people and punish success and/or capitalism gave you everything so you can't criticize it.

If you do have money and you criticize capitalism, you should give away all your money and/or you're a hypocrite.

There's no winning with these people.


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hockeybub89 posted...

"America is failing its people"

"Oh so you're saying we need to end America through a bloody coup? Nice communism, comrade."

He literally said capitalism is failing, killing people and we need an economic revolution.

You people have lost your mind.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

He literally said capitalism is failing, killing people and we need an economic revolution.

You people have lost your mind.

Over 40,000 people in America die every year because they can't afford health insurance. Is that not capitalism killing people? Almost 80% of American workers are living paycheck to paycheck. Is this okay or should something be done about it i.e. an economic revolution?

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

He literally said capitalism is failing, killing people and we need an economic revolution.

You people have lost your mind.

Uh, you can revolutionize an established concept. You're pretending that words have singular specific defintions that all lead to communism. None of those words inherently mean "completely throw out one thing and replace it with entirely new and different thing". He could mean communism, but he could also mean fixing capitalism, or doing something completely else.

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You don't have to "fix" private ownership and voluntary exchange, it works great. It's lifted billions out of poverty.

If these people wanted to address specific bad policy in areas like healthcare, they would do so. Instead all they do is incite people knowing full well they have enough money to protect themselves when things start going badly.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

You don't have to "fix" private ownership and voluntary exchange, it works great. It's lifted billions out of poverty.

If these people wanted to address specific bad policy in areas like healthcare, they would do so. Instead all they do is incite people knowing full well they have enough money to protect themselves when things start going badly.

What would rich people gain from inciting a communist revolution for the lulz?

Also, literally nothing is perfect and everything can always be improved. Last I checked, bad things still happen on planet Earth

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

I'm sorry did he say we should improve society somewhat or did he make the ridiculous claim that capitalism is failing and killing us, and then call for an economic revolution? Stop advocating for shit that's killed millions and people will stop calling you out.

Capitalism has likely killed more people in the last 10 years than socialism/communism ever has.

p-m posted...

Capitalism has likely killed more people in the last 10 years than socialism/communism ever has.

hahaha

hockeybub89 posted...

What would rich people gain from inciting a communist revolution for the lulz?

Most socialist leaders came from privileged backgrounds, actually. It's some weird combo of guilt and a messiah complex.

hockeybub89 posted...

Also, literally nothing is perfect and everything can always be improved.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

If these people wanted to address specific bad policy in areas like healthcare, they would do so. Instead all they do is incite people knowing full well they have enough money to protect themselves when things start going badly.

ITT: People who were okay with a celebrity billionaire running for President telling people Mark Ruffalo can't talk about capitalism.
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Intangible posted...

ITT: People who were okay with a celebrity billionaire running for President telling people Mark Ruffalo can't talk about capitalism.

who are these people?

Broseph_Stalin posted...

Most socialist leaders came from privileged backgrounds, actually. It's some weird combo of guilt and a messiah complex.

lol yes surely the only reason a rich person could comment on American capitalism is because they are angling at taking over when the revolution they incite comes to fruition.

fucking what

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Did proudclad hack the broseph account or something
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HellRatUFO posted...

Cool, lets talk about the facts. Denmark has less regulatory burden in regards to their healthcare system compared to the clusterfuck in the United States. Denmarks population is arguably in better physical shape than the United States due to diet and exercise which is also an external factor that needs to be considered when driving down costs, as Americans 1970s-present suffer from many diseases and illness that couldve been prevented with better eating and exercise. Denmark despite having universal healthcare, still do have a private sector for healthcare.

Bernie and Warren are calling for a complete dismantle of the current health system, throwing millions of people under the bus, and are calling for a complete overhaul and nationalization of the entire healthcare industry that we cannot afford for a variety of reasons.

I know you're a troll account but can you not try a little harder than irrelevantly bringing up Denmark all the fucking time.

hockeybub89 posted...

lol yes surely the only reason a rich person could comment on American capitalism is because they are angling at taking over when the revolution they incite comes to fruition.

Am I wrong in saying people like Marx and Lenin came from privileged backgrounds? You didn't really counter that point. You're wrong in saying a rich person wouldn't say such a thing.

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I notice I get a lot of people projecting like this when they can't honestly argue against anything I'm saying.

Comparing Mark Ruffalo to Marx and Lenin is one of the funniest things I've seen on this site recently
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HellRatUFO posted...

To put it nicely, the United States is too fucking fat and immobile, and consistently eats like shit day in, day out living off the mass produced drugs known as ultra processed fast food and shelved pre-packaged snacks lol.

And who makes these drugs?

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PleaseClap posted...

Comparing Mark Ruffalo to Marx and Lenin is one of the funniest things I've seen on this site recently

He said a rich person would never advocate for collectivism, I pointed out nearly all socialist leaders came from such a background. How is this too complicated for you?

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Unhealthy lifestyle choices don't add nearly as much to healthcare cost as people think. We're also healthier than Europeans in some areas, we drink and smoke less. The main problem in the US system is that we don't address the low price elasticity.

HellRatUFO posted...

To put it nicely, the United States is too fucking fat and immobile, and consistently eats like shit day in, day out living off the mass produced drugs known as ultra processed fast food and shelved pre-packaged snacks lol.

This is why we as a country cannot afford the universal healthcare nationalization model that Bernie Sanders advocates for.

Where does alcohol consumption fit into your equation?
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