Current Events > Mark Ruffalo: capitalism is failing us, killing us

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CADE FOSTER posted...

capitalism is great for the rich fucked for anyone else

Not true. Capitalism is great for everyone

the rich may get richer but the poor also get richer.

Under socialism everyone is poor.

Duncanwii posted...

Zeeak4444 posted...

I mean, what are you really saying here? That someone whos seen the upsides of capitalism cant criticize it? Are there really people out there stupid enough to think the only ones allowed to criticize it are the same ones whove only ever been victims to it?

Socialism is just as bad, if not worse, then Capitalism.

No one cares Duncan, not only about the majority of what you post, but also about the fact that I never mentioned socialism and you still felt the need to write some irrelevant bullshit about it.
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coh posted...

CADE FOSTER posted...

capitalism is great for the rich fucked for anyone else

Not true. Capitalism is great for everyone

the rich may get richer but the poor who budget smartly and work hard also get richer.

Under socialism everyone is poor.

ftfy. Lots of people just wait around for handouts to get richer instead of making it possible themselves do not get richer.

Fuck him. I'd like to know if he supports the blue collar Hollywood workers getting paid more and the actors getting paid less. If not he can go to hell
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I personally have never accused someone with money troubles of being bitter when they complain about it. We're all in the rat race, I can empathize.

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EnterTheTekken posted...

Publicist Playbook Page ONE: "when you have a project out there, make sure you chum the waters to get yourself trending in some way..."

I don't think it's a coincidence he's dropping this and his anti-corporate film, Dark Waters, is headed for more screens this weekend.

Literally using capitalism is killing us as a promotion to makr money...

Lmao this is hilarious.

And people are literally defending his pretend statement ITT.

HellRatUFO posted...

Zeeak4444 posted...

@HellRatUFO posted...

Oh look, another champagne socialist white male Hollywood actor worth millions that lives in a nice high class gated community going about how capitalism is bad and rich people are the devil lol. These people do not share the every day Americans struggle.

As opposed to all the white male million/billionaires who see the every day American struggle and say oh well fuck them, Im rich?

I mean, what are you really saying here? That someone whos seen the upsides of capitalism cant criticize it? Are there really people out there stupid enough to think the only ones allowed to criticize it are the same ones whove only ever been victims to it?

Up their own ass white liberal Hollywood actors that cant properly define what capitalism even is and have never read a single economics book in their goddamn life are in zero jurisdiction to go on about how it is bad lol.

Capitalism is the private ownership of goods and services and the voluntary exchange of those said private goods and services. It has lifted billions of people out of the natural state of poverty every human is born into out of the womb. It is natures way of determining who is smart and who is broke.

Lmao. Thanks for the good laugh.
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Godnorgosh posted...

This idea that if you benefited from capitalism you somehow can't criticize it (even though others have been harmed by it and some people have this thing called empathy for others) is profoundly and explicitly ridiculous and should be discarded quickly by everyone who parrots it.

It is not about if you benefited before, it is about if you are currently exploiting it which he is.

If he donated most of his wealth and decided to work for minimum wage on films, then no one would question him.

Instead he is promoting a new film he is getting millions more from with his very statement you just defended.
He exploited you that is.

Really tired of hearing about how capitalism is so bad from fucking rich people. Either donate your money and eat at long john silvers like me or stay in your fancy lane bitch
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Imagine how much less poverty there'd be if all the money spent on Red Carpet outfits went to poor people instead.

why doesnt he put his money where his mouth is? what comes out of his mouth doesnt match what comes out of his wallet so its hard to give a shit about what he says.

ThePrinceFish posted...

he probably tweeted that from a bathtub filled with hundred dollar bills

Ahhahaha, yeah. I dont think Mark Ruffalo will be donating all of his amazing Avengers pay to fund the revolution. But he seems genuinely sensitive about issues, so maybe he will surprise us.
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Can i ask him for money
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he's not wrong. but its how we allow our capitalist system to be run by the 1% and not the 99%.
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So weird how all of Mark Ruffalo's personal accountants browse CE at the same exact time

Hulk smash capitalism!

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I wonder if he supports higher density zoning in his neighborhood so we can alleviate the housing shortage in California
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if Red Hulk and Green Hulk fight in the snow, is it Christmas?

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Nothing dumber than when rich celebs whine about capitalism. If they hate inequality of wealth why don't they redistribute their own?

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Says the idiot who had the opportunities to make millions in a capitalist country.

If he feels so guilty, maybe he should start housing some of the LA homeless in his million dollar mansion.
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How exactly is he a hypocrite?

He's supporting Bernie and pushing change that would help others and effect his own bottom line negatively. Sounds fairly admirable to me.
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And yet he participates in society. Curious.
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Look at all that ad hominem

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PleaseClap posted...

And yet he participates in society. Curious.

I didn't read every post, but assumed someone already posted that comic.
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HellRatUFO posted...

DippinSauce posted...

How exactly is he a hypocrite?

He's supporting Bernie and pushing change that would help others and effect his own bottom line negatively. Sounds fairly admirable to me.

None of Bernies policies will help lift a single person out of poverty lol. His advocation for hiked up corporate tax rates, red tape, what he deems a mandated federal min living wage, and anti-free trade Trumpian protectionism are the inverse of the Denmark Breadline Bernouts claim that we should be more like. And people swear Bernies policies arent in line with South American socialism and that he is different, jfc.

Where are you getting all this information that makes you so pissed off about Bernie Sanders
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HellRatUFO posted...

Up their own ass white liberal Hollywood actors that cant properly define what capitalism even is and have never read a single economics book in their goddamn life are in zero jurisdiction to go on about how it is bad lol.

To be fair, there's a ton of people who go on about socialism's evils and can't define what socialism is. Ignorance of the other side isn't unique to a certain ideology.

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Duncanwii posted...

Looks like Hulk is a little angry. Better not smash his fanbase.

Duncanwii: If we call China out on their internment camps, they will rain nuclear hellfire down on us. A few tens of thousands of people in internment camps is a fair price to avoid the atomic apocalypse that will claim us all and drag us into the depths of hell. May God have mercy on our souls.

Mark Ruffalo: capitalism is weighted to benefit the rich, and if we want to see an end to the worsening poverty problem, we should probably do something to change this

Duncanwii: Looks Like Someone's Being A Widdle Bit Widiculous!
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California's liberal elite consistently vote for policies that make matters worse. It costs like $400 in annual registration fees for a car. It's like $3,000 a month to rent a crappy 2 bedroom condo. Gas is at $3.80 a gallon. These things make life very difficult for regular people and yet they keep voting against policies that might actually help people.
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MrMallard posted...

Duncanwii: If we call China out on their internment camps, they will rain nuclear hellfire down on us. A few tens of thousands of people in internment camps is a fair price to avoid the atomic apocalypse that will claim us all and drag us into the depths of hell. May God have mercy on our souls.

Mark Ruffalo: capitalism is weighted to benefit the rich, and if we want to see an end to the worsening poverty problem, we should probably do something to change this

Duncanwii: Looks Like Someone's Being A Widdle Bit Widiculous!

China is the problem it is because of socialism. You know, the thing you want to introduce here.

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China is the way it is because a fascist dickhead named Mao Zedong kept the country poor and destroyed centuries worth of buildings, manuscripts and artifacts because he wanted a strong, militarized China, and the past eras of free thought, spirituality and scientific progress stood in the way of everything he stood for. He was a communist, but the socialism he claimed to preach was a load of horseshit that deliberately kept a majority of China in poverty and almost certainly gave rise to the proliferation of sweatshops in the country while he grew fat. This is in line with the USSR, where "everybody works for the same pay" turned into "everybody works to buy El Capitan a nice lobster dinner and a Mercedes Benz".

The socialism that people are interested in today is "the rich pay their taxes, paying higher rates depending on whatever obscene amount of money they made that year, to fund the public services that keep every working American literate, healthy and able to travel". This ensures that wealth actually trickles down - lower classes of people have access to a basic level of healthcare that lets them work harder jobs and improves their quality of life in the long run, kids are educated fairly instead of less fortunate kids going to a less-funded school and getting a subpar education, libraries are funded so they can offer a better catalogue of material and can expand their archival efforts which better serves everyone in the pursuit of knowledge, and cities are able to improve their infrastructure so that people who drive or take public transport have a smoother travelling experience and are able to be more efficient.

The method of doing this - charging higher tax brackets to people making millions and billions of dollars - and the intended outcome of this - improving infrastructure for everyone, which improves everyone's quality of life - is a far cry from "everyone gets a job digging holes in a field and gets paid the same flat rate that they can barely use to feed their families, whereas I, the Supreme Leader, regularly dine on expensive cuisine and have no shortage of personal assets to further my ambitions".

If you want to read about the state of China under Mao Zedong, I recommend reading Mao's Last Dancer - an autobiographical account of a man who was born into squalor, before being chosen to attend the Beijing Dance Academy and emigrating to Australia. The book goes into the history of Mao's rule, the basics of China's socialism and what that entailed in the end, a firsthand account as to the condition of the average poor Chinese citizens at the time, and the hypocritical class politics of Mao's China. It would serve as a better base of knowledge than "If Capitalism Is Bad, Why Am Red China Policy Good Replacement Accord 2 Rad Libs??" No sane person thinks Mao's China, or the Eastern Bloc, was a good idea. But capitalism as it stands now, where corporations can get away with paying no tax at all and paying people a wage that an average adult can't actually live on, is failing the most vulnerable members of our society. You don't have to wear a fur hat and send people to a fucking gulag for Opposing The People's Republic to have a look at the squalor people are being reduced to in America and say "things are pretty fucked up, people might have more of a chance if we level the playing field".
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MrMallard posted...

fascist dickhead named Mao Zedong

"Capitalism is failing us" doesn't necessarily mean "Great Leap Forward now pls" so lol at people rambling about communism. That phrase doesn't even necessarily mean throwing out every capitalistic idea ever conceived, just that there are failings in X society's current state.

Zack_Attackv1 posted...

Says the guy basking in millions.

When he said "us" I assumed he meant "all Americans" or "all people" and not "Mark Ruffalo"

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FuneralFroth posted...

Really tired of hearing about how capitalism is so bad from fucking rich people. Either donate your money and eat at long john silvers like me or stay in your fancy lane bitch

This is a weird rant where you're demanding communism to get people to stop bitching about capitalism.

Society has no fucking hope when we turn every fucking economical debate into a fucking Cold War sequel.

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Conservative: "The wealthy create jobs and make the world go round and shouldn't be punished for their success. We should be inspired by them, not jealously demanding them to give us money."

Rich person: "Maybe there's some inequality in society that we can address"

Conservative: "Shut the fuck up, you rich bastard! Like rich fucks know shit or give a shit! If everything is awful, then give all your money back, you selfish hypocrite! Take a time machine to Soviet Russia if you want communism so bad!"

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HellRatUFO posted...

Ruffalo legit is a supporter of the ridiculous Green New Deal, but right, it doesnt mean Great Leap Forward multi-point bills that will add astronomical trillions in new spending that will result in budget shortfalls when the rich ultimately wont pay for this shit you chased them away with with the consequences that will ultimately fall at the expense of the very lower income people it was intended to help.

I wonder how exactly we are supposed to change anything, capitalist, communist or in between, when apparently affecting rich people in any way will just make them flee the country.

I guess rich people really are evil then if they'd tell millions to fuck off rather than be slightly less millionaire/billionaires

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I don't know why millions of people suffering and dying under communism makes millions of people suffering and dying under capitalism any more excusable. Its just a handy deflection from criticism.

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IShall_Run_Amok posted...

millions of people suffering and dying under capitalism

lol

Frolex posted...

DrizztLink posted...

When you ignore the second half of his post it starts looking like deflection, yeah.

I mean conservatives are nothing if not reliable, you have to give them that.

That's kind of the problem. See, the issue with having these discussions is that you make one little peep about how modern (typically American) capitalism has gone off the rails, then like clockwork people come flooding in these topics with a list of talking points about breadlines and the Soviets, or other nonsense deflections

They think that if the false dichotomy between what we have now and 20th century communism didn't work last time, surely it will this time
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HellRatUFO posted...

Explain how any of the socialist policies the likes of Bernie and Warren call for will bring about this prosperity. Do so without the following emotional SJW trigger buzzwords:

1%
Wealthy
Rich
Income Gap
Income Inequality
Trickle Down
Loopholes
Fair
Bailout

Do all this while taking into consideration the present economy and federal government spending. And be sure to do math too.

Let's dig people out of poverty and save the planet before we start worrying about prosperity. I think the prosperous will find a way to survive without making increasing amounts of money for a little while.

Weird how we only worry about spending when the prospect of a left-leaning President comes up and ignore that spending and the debt increases year over year no matter who's in control. We could redirect where taxes goes and increase tax revenue many times over and still have rich people and be far away from praising Lenin and standing in bread lines.

Acting as if people need to be economists with laid out plans to criticize America or else they are communists that need to shit the fuck is stupid.

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IShall_Run_Amok posted...

I don't know why millions of people suffering and dying under communism makes millions of people suffering and dying under capitalism any more excusable. Its just a handy deflection from criticism.

People have no idea what communism is like until they live in it. People starved...hundreds of millions of people starved. Only a small percentage of the population gets well-fed and they're the ones in power.

If you live under communism, you wouldn't be sitting where you are, posting on message boards, playing games and bingeing on TV shows. No, you'd be out there contributing, working and if you're lucky, you just may gave an extra food coupon for your hard work.
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hockeybub89 posted...

Acting as if people need to be economists with laid out plans

there is an 100% chance this dude knows nothing about economics, they never do.
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you aren't allowed to talk about critical thinking, ever

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