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yutterh 11/21/19 1:57:20 PM #1: |
So pretty much UBI will be 3 trillion, but according to yang it actually won't cost anything. This video has him explain how it pays for itself.
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Mead 11/21/19 2:04:14 PM #2: |
There are plenty of ways to criticize Yang but if you try arguing that his data or numbers are wrong youre gonna lose
What is that tub of goo even still doing on television --- More malicious than mischievous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboXgp89 11/21/19 2:13:12 PM #3: |
our own gov't would attack the guy before he even took office
people can't even try socialism in other countries without our gov't stepping in and staging a coup to get more resources it would never happen people with stocks in real estate etc wouldn't let it happen it would basically end up being a way to make the middle and lower classes be the same rich people don't get taxed period --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WErq2CBYTU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nogaems 11/21/19 2:23:03 PM #4: |
only real one running for prez
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BeerOnTap 11/21/19 3:59:53 PM #5: |
Theft and coercion by force followed by redistributing to anyone and everyone for doing absolutely nothing to earn it.
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Noop_Noop 11/21/19 4:15:12 PM #6: |
You do realize that all of the rich people he intends put this burden on will be gone long before he takes office, right?
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Mead 11/21/19 4:23:41 PM #7: |
BeerOnTap posted...
Theft and coercion by force followed by redistributing to anyone and everyone for doing absolutely nothing to earn it. The real thieves are corporations reaping the wealth of our nation and not contributing their fair share back into the economy Human centered capitalism is the only way forward that actually makes sense. Anything else will collapse in on itself. --- More malicious than mischievous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 11/21/19 4:29:01 PM #8: |
The problem isn't the rich making money, but the rich not spending money
There doesn't need to be an earnings cap, but a spendings minimum... billionaries NEED to buy 100 cars to fuel the economy unless, like, you wanna build an economy based on something other than consumerism --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 11/21/19 4:35:10 PM #9: |
Lokarin posted...
The problem isn't the rich making money, but the rich not spending money Or ya know they could pay taxes like everyone else --- More malicious than mischievous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 11/21/19 4:36:08 PM #10: |
Mead posted...
Lokarin posted...The problem isn't the rich making money, but the rich not spending money For some reason the Christians have an ethical issue with taxes... so call it a mandatory donation. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboXgp89 11/21/19 4:44:38 PM #11: |
once they become big enough they ship jobs overseas
all of the economic growth goes to other countries with lax laws they don't pay taxes here, etc. --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WErq2CBYTU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 11/21/19 4:50:59 PM #12: |
RoboXgp89 posted...
once they become big enough they ship jobs overseas Thats where value added taxes come into play If theyre making money in the US they should be paying US taxes --- More malicious than mischievous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboXgp89 11/21/19 10:20:11 PM #13: |
you're not going to pay them to get re-elected to do that!
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Mead 11/21/19 10:35:45 PM #14: |
RoboXgp89 posted...
you're not going to pay them to get re-elected to do that! What are you even saying --- More malicious than mischievous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboXgp89 11/21/19 10:38:22 PM #15: |
things are going to get worse and worse until finnally we're forced to give people UBI (welfare) because everything will be automated for the least jobs possible
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Mead 11/21/19 10:40:34 PM #16: |
RoboXgp89 posted...
things are going to get worse and worse until finnally we're forced to give people UBI (welfare) because everything will be automated for the least jobs possible UBI isnt welfare Welfare is for poor people in need. UBI is a way to recognize the basic value of each citizen. --- More malicious than mischievous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboXgp89 11/21/19 10:58:34 PM #17: |
Mead posted...
RoboXgp89 posted...things are going to get worse and worse until finnally we're forced to give people UBI (welfare) because everything will be automated for the least jobs possible that's not going to happen again there are people out there worth 1 million times a citizen and they are going to keep it that way and so will the people in the gov't there are no free hand outs in a country like this, as big as this, the people here do not feel any trust with one another ubi could work in a small european country or something, not here UBI would inflate everything until we all get the same product, then we'd have communism, people not doing their jobs because they receive more UBI then everyone else, so on ... --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WErq2CBYTU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 11/21/19 11:05:36 PM #18: |
Mead posted...
RoboXgp89 posted...things are going to get worse and worse until finnally we're forced to give people UBI (welfare) because everything will be automated for the least jobs possible I think he's also saying that eventually, UBI will be a necessity because nobody will be able to work anymore when our robot overlords do all the work for us... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yutterh 11/21/19 11:57:26 PM #19: |
RoboXgp89 posted...
that's not going to happen UBI is a opt in thing. If someone is already receiving aid through disability or something they cant get ubi. Also ubi only $1000, you cant live off of that but if your working it adds a little bit more cushion and it helps business since they dont have to increase wages and more people will but their product. I dont really see inflation spiking, maybe a extra bump but not a hell of a lot. Besides Alaska already does ubi, it is very successful there apparently. --- MICHALECOLE is the greatest poster of all time I have literally watched him bang my mom before ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 11/22/19 12:29:52 AM #20: |
LinkPizza posted...
Mead posted...RoboXgp89 posted...things are going to get worse and worse until finnally we're forced to give people UBI (welfare) because everything will be automated for the least jobs possible I think there will always be jobs for people who want to work --- More malicious than mischievous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 11/22/19 12:35:04 AM #21: |
Mead posted...
LinkPizza posted...Mead posted...RoboXgp89 posted...things are going to get worse and worse until finnally we're forced to give people UBI (welfare) because everything will be automated for the least jobs possible There's another problem, though. It's if they can do the jobs that are left for them to work. Some people only know how to do one thing. It would suck if there was nothing they could do, even if they wanted to... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yutterh 11/22/19 1:06:10 AM #22: |
LinkPizza posted...
There's another problem, though. It's if they can do the jobs that are left for them to work. Some people only know how to do one thing. It would suck if there was nothing they could do, even if they wanted to... Sometimes a normal job isn't what people want. Someone could start a youtube channel, someone can back to school, someone can fuck their life way, but I bet on humanity wanting to work and provide work in their own way or their own field. It does what it is called "freedom divedent" gives people the option to choose how they want to contribute to society. --- MICHALECOLE is the greatest poster of all time I have literally watched him bang my mom before ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 11/22/19 1:10:50 AM #23: |
yutterh posted...
LinkPizza posted...There's another problem, though. It's if they can do the jobs that are left for them to work. Some people only know how to do one thing. It would suck if there was nothing they could do, even if they wanted to... Except a lot of jobs may disappear with automaton... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HelIWithoutSin 11/22/19 1:18:35 AM #24: |
LinkPizza posted...
Except a lot of jobs may disappear with automaton... But the robot demand for human prostitutes is gonna skyrocket. --- And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer. -Hans Gruber ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 11/22/19 2:00:01 AM #25: |
LinkPizza posted...
yutterh posted...LinkPizza posted...There's another problem, though. It's if they can do the jobs that are left for them to work. Some people only know how to do one thing. It would suck if there was nothing they could do, even if they wanted to... A lot of new jobs will be created too --- More malicious than mischievous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeerOnTap 11/22/19 6:17:49 AM #26: |
Mead posted...
Lokarin posted...The problem isn't the rich making money, but the rich not spending money The rich pay the overwhelming majority of taxes in America. What are you even talking about? Also corporations are where a large chuck of Americans are employed, for those of you saying they do nothing good with their money. Do you guys have to wipe your mouth after all this s*** falls out of it? https://www.dailysignal.com/2015/04/15/how-much-do-the-top-1-percent-pay-of-all-taxes/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 11/22/19 6:33:27 AM #27: |
Mead posted...
LinkPizza posted...yutterh posted...LinkPizza posted...There's another problem, though. It's if they can do the jobs that are left for them to work. Some people only know how to do one thing. It would suck if there was nothing they could do, even if they wanted to... But those new jobs will probably be highly specialized... Which doesnt help the average person who lost their job... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyuubi4269 11/22/19 7:22:52 AM #28: |
BeerOnTap posted...
And proportionately they earn overwhelmingly more than their tax burden. BeerOnTap posted... Also corporations are where a large chuck of Americans are employed, for those of you saying they do nothing good with their money. They replace pre-existing companies that are smaller and more invested in their country/state/locale, they're not making jobs that wouldn't already exist. Personally I don't see why taxes can't be just handled like a tax rebate i.e. a person without income has a $1000 rebate they can claim on filing. You can rework the tax system so it still taxes mid tier people the same as now but if they're fired, they lose a significant tax burden. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboXgp89 11/22/19 8:10:30 AM #29: |
BeerOnTap posted...
Mead posted...Lokarin posted...The problem isn't the rich making money, but the rich not spending money a rich person isn't going to lose their house, business by paying taxes it isn't even comparable to say they pay taxes for many of them it probably feels like to them they don't pay taxes where as for many of us at least 25%-45% of our paycheck goes to taxes --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WErq2CBYTU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Krazy_Kirby 11/22/19 9:03:59 AM #30: |
only idiots think social/communism is good
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RoboXgp89 11/22/19 9:54:50 AM #31: |
Krazy_Kirby posted...
only idiots think social/communism is good which is what we have now for people who are rich and work for the town/govt --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WErq2CBYTU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyuubi4269 11/22/19 10:07:18 AM #32: |
Krazy_Kirby posted...
only idiots think social/communism is good It is good, just not for a large governmental system. You can have a communist family, you can have a socialist district, but you can only have a capitalist country. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Noop_Noop 11/22/19 12:19:17 PM #33: |
LinkPizza posted...
Mead posted...LinkPizza posted...yutterh posted...LinkPizza posted...There's another problem, though. It's if they can do the jobs that are left for them to work. Some people only know how to do one thing. It would suck if there was nothing they could do, even if they wanted to... so then the average person needs to become more specialized. isn't that the point? aren't we supposed to get better with time? aren't we supposed to advance as a species? --- I am your shepherd cloaked in obscenity. Heed these sickening words: I worship only what you bleed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 11/22/19 12:39:14 PM #34: |
Noop_Noop posted...
LinkPizza posted...Mead posted...LinkPizza posted...yutterh posted...LinkPizza posted...There's another problem, though. It's if they can do the jobs that are left for them to work. Some people only know how to do one thing. It would suck if there was nothing they could do, even if they wanted to... Yeah. But unlike other parts of the world, the US system doesnt always care for its people. For certain specializations, you need schooling. And in the US, college is expensive. So, they would need money to pay for it. But its money they dont have because they dont have a job. And they cant get a job until they have that specialized training. Which they cant get without money. So, they end up in a vicious cycle... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KnoxKorner 11/22/19 12:40:35 PM #35: |
If you need any evidence that he is a fifth column Chinese agent look at his stance on decriminalizing opioids. Then understand the concept of the Century of Humiliation.
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Lokarin 11/22/19 12:44:40 PM #36: |
KnoxKorner posted...
decriminalizing I support the decriminalizing of all teh drugs. I don't use, but drugs kill people and I don't like people. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyuubi4269 11/22/19 1:00:27 PM #37: |
LinkPizza posted...
Yeah. But unlike other parts of the world, the US system doesnt always care for its people. This is a reason for the US to rejoin the Empire, not an argument against UBI. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 11/22/19 1:07:23 PM #38: |
KnoxKorner posted...
If you need any evidence that he is a fifth column Chinese agent look at his stance on decriminalizing opioids. Then understand the concept of the Century of Humiliation. Further evidence that your username is missing a K --- More malicious than mischievous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 11/22/19 1:24:08 PM #39: |
Kyuubi4269 posted...
LinkPizza posted...Yeah. But unlike other parts of the world, the US system doesnt always care for its people. It wasnt an argument against UBI, though. I was saying UBI would become a necessity... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KnoxKorner 11/22/19 1:30:24 PM #40: |
Mead posted...
KnoxKorner posted...If you need any evidence that he is a fifth column Chinese agent look at his stance on decriminalizing opioids. Then understand the concept of the Century of Humiliation. Not an argument. Lokarin posted... I don't use, but drugs kill people and I don't like people. Man, this user is like a pizza slicer. All edge, no point. --- In November of 2006 three P/C posters disappeared in the woods near Caver Ted's Caves, while LARPing...A year later their weblog was found.-PC board. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 11/22/19 1:45:24 PM #41: |
KnoxKorner posted...
Not an argument. Not gonna waste my time arguing against a baseless conspiracy theory --- More malicious than mischievous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yutterh 11/22/19 4:46:42 PM #42: |
KnoxKorner posted...
If you need any evidence that he is a fifth column Chinese agent look at his stance on decriminalizing opioids. Then understand the concept of the Century of Humiliation. His point is to help people that get addicted to these drugs. If your a dealer you will still go to prison. This way if someone gets addicted to a drug they can safely get help without having to worry about getting locked up. --- MICHALECOLE is the greatest poster of all time I have literally watched him bang my mom before ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboXgp89 11/23/19 12:44:27 PM #43: |
the century of humiliation is propaganda
the west specifically europe and the usa was always ahead of China it's just a way to downplay the industrial revolution --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WErq2CBYTU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BUMPED2002 11/29/19 10:04:59 AM #44: |
RoboXgp89 posted...
our own gov't would attack the guy before he even took office People in America need to understand one thing, America has always had socialism for White people. That's what the Homestead Acts in the 1860s/1870s were in which millions of acres of land and the tools and seeds to work that land West of the Mississippi was doled out to newly arriving poor penniless Europeans immigrants and Black people and Indians were excluded. The US Government undergirded these people an economic base and floor to get their farm-based businesses started and they never did that for non-Whites EVER. Fast forward to the early to mid 20th century, and FDR's New Deal programs *Social Security, FHA Home Loan Program, HOL (Homeowners Loan Act). CCC, TVA, Unemployment Insurance, Workman's Compensation, AND THE G.I. BILL", etc, were all rooted in socialist ideals and it made it possible for working-class WHITES TO ATTAIN WEALTH AND to attain some modicum of wealth-building VIA HOME BUYING WHICH PRIOR HAD NEVER EXISTED FOR WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE and that was all off-limits to non-Whites. I am surprised people do not know about this stuff. When non-Whites began accessing Gov Programs in the 1960s, they weren't offered an opportunity to buy homes. They were herded into Public Housing which doesn't accrue in wealth therefore you can't sell or borrow money against the equity in a Public Housing project. Food stamps also do not accrue in wealth as well. The New Green Deal that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez proposed is doable but it will NOT see the light of day because it includes non-Whites and historically Whites frown on Gov tax dollars being used to help non-Whites which is what the GOP does when they refer to Black single moms on welfare as "Welfare Queens" etc they rile people up and portray these single moms as welfare cheats, lazy, no-good bums who ant to use White taxpayer money to take care of them and people buy it. --- SpankageBros ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 11/29/19 3:20:30 PM #45: |
KnoxKorner posted...
Man, this user is like a pizza slicer. All edge, no point. Since I was making a declarative, there is no need for a point. Just like how an interrogative can be neither true nor false. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 11/29/19 3:22:52 PM #46: |
Lokarin posted...
Since I was making a declarative, there is no need for a point. Thats fucking dumb dude --- More malicious than mischievous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DirtBasedSoap 11/29/19 3:27:14 PM #47: |
Yangs ideas might actually work but the average person in this country is absolutely mortified by the thought of anything in their lives changing even if its for the better.
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Aaantlion 12/01/19 8:15:54 PM #48: |
LinkPizza posted...
Mead posted...LinkPizza posted...yutterh posted...LinkPizza posted...There's another problem, though. It's if they can do the jobs that are left for them to work. Some people only know how to do one thing. It would suck if there was nothing they could do, even if they wanted to... Because apparently a person can't be trained to do something. --- (\/)(\/)|-| Scientists are finally waking up to what pyramids have known all along. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 12/01/19 8:21:27 PM #49: |
Aaantlion posted...
LinkPizza posted...Mead posted...LinkPizza posted...yutterh posted...LinkPizza posted...There's another problem, though. It's if they can do the jobs that are left for them to work. Some people only know how to do one thing. It would suck if there was nothing they could do, even if they wanted to... Not everyone can. Especially at certain points in your life. Especially if theyve always done one specific thing. It definitely can be hard to teach an old dog new tricks... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 12/01/19 8:26:58 PM #50: |
Fucker just raised $2 million in a week from small donations
No stopping the YangWave --- More malicious than mischievous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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