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mrduckbear 11/19/19 12:26:14 AM #1: |
Do you think this wench used a terrible example to front free speech?
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She spoke at a campus event called "When Hate Comes To Campus" and used the n-word that sparked outrage int he audience leading her to get booed off the stage along with the hook She said "So if i said something offensive, you know, you can say a lot of offensive things in here because it's impossible to talk about the First Amendment without saying horrible things. Um you know, like "You're just a dumb n-word and i hate you". That alone, that's protected speech" Chaotic video surfaced that showed the shocking slur as someone comes on stage to shame her and a woman in the crowd heckle her. One woman says "Oh man, free speech, whatever, but you knwo you offend a lot of people in this room" She then returned to the mic and said "I just want to sincerely apologize. I did not mean to by any means offend anyone. I wish i had censored that word. It came out with out thought. I sincerely apologize" But no one bought the apology as one woman yelled "No! It did not come out! because if it did come out, f***, would have come out too! you literally knew. This is not something that you don't know. That is not a word that you say, you know. Don't even say that, she really said n-word and didn't say the word f***" The event was meant to help students understand civil discourse and the type of language that's protected under free speech and Caitlin was trying to claim using the n-word,although controversial, was perfectly "legal" Stephanie Gaia said "She used it as an example. She said it with the hard r, no hesitation. Everyone was just so taken aback". Less than 24 hours later, out of shame, Caitlin resigned as University President Neal Smatresk said the vehemently defend inclusion and said while Ms Sewell was trying to make a point, they don't condone what she said Students were mixed on her use of the word as some say she was only making a point and blowing it out of proportition while others said people who use the n word as an example of free speech are completely ignorant and is overused Do you think this wench used a terrible example while fronting free speech? Caitlin - Got the Hook https://i.imgur.com/VBBzY1N.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lrTnb4o.jpg https://i.imgur.com/NzzYtGL.jpg https://i.imgur.com/dblnXah.jpg --- 2019 will likely be the last year for random news.. https://linkto.run/p/QV29F5V0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 11/19/19 12:44:20 AM #2: |
That'll teach her for showing an example of free speech on a college campus! Colleges are probably the least speech-friendly places in the developed world. Otherwise, an example of free speech within that context doesn't have punch unless you use something offensive and, no matter what you use (provided you actually use something offensive), there's going to be controversy.
mrduckbear posted... tephanie Gaia said "She used it as an example. She said it with the hard r, no hesitation. Everyone was just so taken aback". People who say things without hesitation are unlikely to be feel ashamed about doing it. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bulbasaur 11/19/19 12:52:46 AM #3: |
so many people don't actually know what free speech means
it's that the government can't do anything to you, and even then, they can, and often will, depending on what you say. it does not mean that you wont have any consequences from anything else. she fucked up, and instead of learning her lesson and learning what free speech actually means, she is going to just be bitter and have learned nothing. --- it's hard to read my thoughts i'm feeling guess they're not real then ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 11/19/19 1:01:36 AM #4: |
Bulbasaur posted...
so many people don't actually know what free speech means >Talks about people not knowing what free speech means >References a lawyer who explicitly talks about the protection from government aspect of free speech --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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aDirtyShisno 11/19/19 1:05:44 AM #5: |
Without the video we have no way of judging what her intent appeared to be but based solely on the text provided she proved her point, that the audience was not in favor of free speech. She used the sentence as an example and was immediately berated for it, whether or not she believed the sentence to be truthful. There is not even any evidence that she said it to a particular person or if she said it to the audience as a whole.
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wwinterj25 11/19/19 1:29:10 AM #6: |
I think you can say offensive things to make a point without saying a racist word. Dumb move.
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Bulbasaur 11/19/19 1:38:46 AM #7: |
Zeus posted...
>References a lawyer who explicitly talks about the protection from government aspect of free speechthat makes her fuck up even more shitty, because she should know better. --- it's hard to read my thoughts i'm feeling guess they're not real then ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 11/19/19 2:31:37 AM #8: |
aDirtyShisno posted...
whether or not she believed the sentence to be truthful. Whether or not she believes it's truthful is irrelevant, but it *is* correct. The government can't come after you for using that word. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nemesis347 11/19/19 2:39:34 AM #9: |
She's not going to jail so her free speech was not divested from her. She said things freely, and her boss freely and righteously forced her to quit.
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aDirtyShisno 11/19/19 2:40:02 AM #10: |
Zeus posted...
Whether or not she believes it's truthful is irrelevant, but it *is* correct. The government can't come after you for using that word.I meant whether or not she believes the person is a dumb you-know-what... --- Que sera, sera. Whatever happens, happens. ...and he was never heard from again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 11/19/19 2:47:14 AM #11: |
Wow.
How stupid is she? Part of it is because we don't have the full context here but I just don't understand why she felt the need to say that. Could have said "Racial slurs fall under free speech. The government will not fine or jail them but they don't escape the response their employers or peers may have to their words." Instead she just makes a bizarre hateful statement. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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aDirtyShisno 11/19/19 3:34:03 AM #12: |
BlackScythe0 posted...
Wow.She uses a bizarre hateful statement as an example. Shes doesnt just make it arbitrarily to insult anyone in particular. Her mistake was believing that she could use such an example in an educational setting where freedom of speech has gone out the window decades ago and strict conformity is the new big thing. --- Que sera, sera. Whatever happens, happens. ...and he was never heard from again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 11/19/19 3:35:20 AM #13: |
aDirtyShisno posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...Wow.She uses a bizarre hateful statement as an example. Shes doesnt just make it arbitrarily to insult anyone in particular. Her mistake was believing that she could use such an example in an educational setting where freedom of speech has gone out the window decades ago and strict conformity is the new big thing. ??? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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aDirtyShisno 11/19/19 3:36:31 AM #14: |
BlackScythe0 posted...
???!!! --- Que sera, sera. Whatever happens, happens. ...and he was never heard from again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom_Nook 11/19/19 4:08:43 AM #15: |
Sure, saying the n-word is perfectly legal. But that doesn't make it wise.
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Muscles 11/19/19 11:16:09 AM #16: |
Bulbasaur posted...
so many people don't actually know what free speech means Tbf if they get public funding they shouldn't be able to step on people's free speech --- Muscles Chicago Bears | Chicago Blackhawks | Chicago Bulls | Chicago Cubs | NIU Huskies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 11/19/19 11:17:41 AM #17: |
mrduckbear posted...
One woman says "Oh man, free speech, whatever, but you knwo you offend a lot of people in this room" This is the actual problem. One person being offended on behalf of others who probably don't care. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyuubi4269 11/19/19 11:18:05 AM #18: |
Muscles posted...
Tbf if they get public funding they shouldn't be able to step on people's free speech And tbf, they're not talking about the legal state but rather the base principle. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muscles 11/19/19 11:20:52 AM #19: |
The whole concept of people getting offended over words is just childish, context matters way more than the words themselves
Sticks and stones, etc. --- Muscles Chicago Bears | Chicago Blackhawks | Chicago Bulls | Chicago Cubs | NIU Huskies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nogaems 11/19/19 11:41:43 AM #20: |
Muscles posted...
The whole concept of people getting offended over words is just childish, context matters way more than the words themselvesI think there is already plenty of history and context surrounding the word, especially considering who said it. --- (CATS DON'T DANCE TO MY BEATS) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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aDirtyShisno 11/19/19 11:44:09 AM #21: |
Muscles posted...
The whole concept of people getting offended over words is just childish, context matters way more than the words themselvesHavent you heard? The new saying is Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words send me running to my safe space! --- Que sera, sera. Whatever happens, happens. ...and he was never heard from again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muscles 11/19/19 11:59:11 AM #22: |
nogaems posted...
Muscles posted...The whole concept of people getting offended over words is just childish, context matters way more than the words themselvesI think there is already plenty of history and context surrounding the word, especially considering who said it. Thanks for twisting what I said --- Muscles Chicago Bears | Chicago Blackhawks | Chicago Bulls | Chicago Cubs | NIU Huskies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WhiskeyDisk 11/19/19 12:00:26 PM #23: |
She made the bad sound with her mouth.
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Lokarin 11/19/19 12:05:17 PM #24: |
WhiskeyDisk posted...
She made the bad sound with her mouth. Witchcraft started the same way --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 11/19/19 2:40:12 PM #25: |
aDirtyShisno posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...Wow.She uses a bizarre hateful statement as an example. Shes doesnt just make it arbitrarily to insult anyone in particular. Her mistake was believing that she could use such an example in an educational setting where freedom of speech has gone out the window decades ago and strict conformity is the new big thing. Yea "LIBERALS HATE FREEDOM OF SPEECH" https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/conservative-radio-host-fired-for-criticizing-trump-913797/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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magemaximus 11/19/19 2:45:08 PM #26: |
friendly reminder of just because you can say or do something doesn't mean you should
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EvilMegas 11/19/19 2:53:24 PM #27: |
Why do people want to say that word so bad? I bet it's for good reasons.
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aDirtyShisno 11/19/19 3:00:47 PM #28: |
BlackScythe0 posted...
Yea "LIBERALS HATE FREEDOM OF SPEECH"Thats funny because I said education. I didnt say liberals. Looks like youre just trying to malform other peoples opinions to suit your political narrative... Oops, sorry if I caught you off guard and wasnt supposed to let that cat out of the bag. --- Que sera, sera. Whatever happens, happens. ...and he was never heard from again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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aDirtyShisno 11/19/19 3:02:41 PM #29: |
EvilMegas posted...
Why do people want to say that word so bad? I bet it's for good reasons.I think its just that people want true equality. Allowing one race to use that word completely freely but then condemning another race for using it even when quoting some material is not at all equal. --- Que sera, sera. Whatever happens, happens. ...and he was never heard from again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EvilMegas 11/19/19 3:03:59 PM #30: |
Lol thats the only thing holding us back from being equal?
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aDirtyShisno 11/19/19 3:05:18 PM #31: |
EvilMegas posted...
Lol thats the only thing holding us back from being equal?Not in the slightest. But if you want to work your way towards any particular goal you have to actually take steps toward it. Its all about the baby steps... --- Que sera, sera. Whatever happens, happens. ...and he was never heard from again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nogaems 11/19/19 3:29:11 PM #32: |
Muscles posted...
Thanks for twisting what I saidMy interpretation of your post was: Negative reactions from people to specific words or combination of words that are burdened with negative ideas/history are irrational as long as the word/words are haphazardly blurted out without any discretion. please clarify if I'm wrong or maybe you're thinking about a totally different instance that the op.. --- (CATS DON'T DANCE TO MY BEATS) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muscles 11/20/19 2:39:01 AM #33: |
You are right up until the haphazardly blurted out part
Change that to "as long as the word/words are used in a context not intended to be offensive." --- Muscles Chicago Bears | Chicago Blackhawks | Chicago Bulls | Chicago Cubs | NIU Huskies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bulbinking 11/20/19 6:40:23 AM #34: |
wwinterj25 posted...
I think you can say offensive things to make a point without saying a racist word. Dumb move. Tell that to rap stars. Or are they protected because of double standards? --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings 3DS 5370-0410-4945 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 11/20/19 8:25:19 AM #35: |
bulbinking posted...
Tell that to rap stars. Yes. Gay people can also use f** if they want, straight people can't. --- Align your chakras, it starts with your breathing. http://www.arfalpha.com/ScienceOfBreath/ScienceOfBreath.htm ... Copied to Clipboard!
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aDirtyShisno 11/20/19 11:09:37 AM #36: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
Yes. Gay people can also use *** if they want, straight people can't.But how can you tell if theyre gay at a glance so you can white knight for them? At least with black people you can tell instantly that theyre marginalized and need your help! --- Que sera, sera. Whatever happens, happens. ...and he was never heard from again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dedbus 11/20/19 11:19:31 AM #37: |
Sorry you can't call us straight thats our word.
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nogaems 11/20/19 3:30:08 PM #38: |
Muscles posted...
You are right up until the haphazardly blurted out part bruh you're talking like she was reading some civil war era historical document aloud. Basically just wording it in the defense of some tone-deaf dumb ass, so yes, I understood what you originally said. Honestly, I think there is just something inside some people that makes them desperately want to say the word without repercussions if they get the chance --- (CATS DON'T DANCE TO MY BEATS) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muscles 11/20/19 5:29:26 PM #39: |
She didn't intend to to use it to dehumanize anyone or hurt anyone, which is what people did to make it a bad word, intent is what matters and her intent wasn't bad
As for the wnd part, my guess would be that it is seen as a forbidden fruit of sorts, let white people say it and after a couple days they'll probably go back to normal --- Muscles Chicago Bears | Chicago Blackhawks | Chicago Bulls | Chicago Cubs | NIU Huskies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EvilMegas 11/20/19 6:32:21 PM #40: |
Jfc please stop posting, muscles. Lmfao
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