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Medzzz
10/21/19 5:18:52 PM
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On Sunday, McKinnon tweeted I have yet to meet a real champion who has a problem with trans women. Real champions want stronger competition. If you win because bigotry got your competition banned youre a loser.


https://www.nationalreview.com/news/transgender-cyclist-wins-female-cycling-world-championship-claims-only-objections-come-from-losers/
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KillerSlaw
10/21/19 5:19:59 PM
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Takes real balls to say that.
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OnWingsOfMisery
10/21/19 5:20:14 PM
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To the surprise of absolutely no one
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Rika_Furude
10/21/19 5:20:17 PM
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spudger
10/21/19 5:20:17 PM
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thats weak take considering actual biology. but whatevs. hurt the entire female division of the sport.
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OnWingsOfMisery
10/21/19 5:22:12 PM
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I love how being Progressive now means undoing things for women. Women and hardcore feminists must be loving getting displaced in their own sports by someone who has a physical advantage.
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mario2000
10/21/19 5:23:22 PM
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Conception616
10/21/19 5:24:43 PM
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w0acjE0
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Questionmarktarius
10/21/19 5:25:04 PM
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Just end sex discrimination in sport, entirely, and division the hell out of it like European soccer.
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MICHALECOLE
10/21/19 5:25:27 PM
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Conception616 posted...
w0acjE0

Damn look at that lucky guy!
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Medzzz
10/21/19 5:25:34 PM
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The transgender should compete in the mens if he believes in stronger competition
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WashYourHands
10/21/19 5:27:20 PM
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mario2000 posted...
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He isnt wrong tho
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konokonohamaru
10/21/19 5:27:29 PM
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Why does he have be such an ass about it
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The Catgirl Fondler
10/21/19 5:28:16 PM
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Wow, what an asshole.
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MC_BatCommander
10/21/19 5:28:30 PM
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Mods about to nuke this topic
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Medzzz
10/21/19 5:28:45 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Mods about to nuke this topic

Why?
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CyricZ
10/21/19 5:28:49 PM
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Does it matter that she lost several times previously?
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Vyrulisse
10/21/19 5:32:14 PM
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Medzzz posted...
On Sunday, McKinnon tweeted I have yet to meet a real champion who has a problem with trans women. Real champions want stronger competition. If you win because bigotry got your competition banned youre a loser.


https://www.nationalreview.com/news/transgender-cyclist-wins-female-cycling-world-championship-claims-only-objections-come-from-losers/


I wonder what would happen if any of these "real champions" spoke out publicly against it... thonk.
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Questionmarktarius
10/21/19 5:32:24 PM
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Medzzz posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Mods about to nuke this topic

Why?

"controversial"

It's easier to jut kill the whole thread than stalk it or deal with shittons of report buttons.
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sylverlolol
10/21/19 5:43:17 PM
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oof
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legendarylemur
10/21/19 6:05:49 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
I wonder what would happen if any of these "real champions" spoke out publicly against it... thonk.
Then they'll become fake champions obvs

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Esrac
10/22/19 11:48:47 AM
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Medzzz posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Mods about to nuke this topic

Why?


Because anything remotely seen as push back or questioning of trans issues is considered very offensive and against the ToS here.

The mods are real quick to issue warnings and shit in topics about trans people. It's either be totally pro-trans, keep quite, or get warned.
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pinky0926
10/22/19 11:51:59 AM
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I'm sympathetic to her but I don't agree with her position at all.
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KillerKhan420
10/22/19 11:54:11 AM
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LMAO let's have a mtf boxer go around killing the female boxers, be champion for 20 years with 40 title defenses. So brave eh. Just look at the picture, one of these things is not like the other....
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pinky0926
10/22/19 11:56:15 AM
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Here's an actually intelligent response to this topic rather than just "hurr durr looks like a man":

https://www.reddit.com/r/BreadTube/comments/bk10jd/can_anyone_who_does_powerlifting_weigh_in_on_this/emysoto/

There was an article written by a professor of sports science a while back that I thought was interesting too, I'll see if I can find it.

TL;DR - the idea that someone who grew up through male puberty then does 2 years HRT would be on a level with women doesn't seem to match up to reality.
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NathanX95
10/22/19 11:57:12 AM
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Who could have ever predicted that a man was going to beat women in a sporting contest.
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pinky0926
10/22/19 12:05:40 PM
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Here it is. Very intelligent read and worthwhile for everyone who feels this whole MTF in female sports categories thing "feels" wrong but wants a smarter answer for why other than "looks like a man".

https://sportsscientists.com/2019/05/on-dsds-the-theory-of-testosterone-performance-the-cas-ruling-on-caster-semenya/
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MC_BatCommander
10/22/19 12:09:41 PM
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Esrac posted...
Medzzz posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Mods about to nuke this topic

Why?


Because anything remotely seen as push back or questioning of trans issues is considered very offensive and against the ToS here.

The mods are real quick to issue warnings and shit in topics about trans people. It's either be totally pro-trans, keep quite, or get warned.


They actually are going after the folks intentionally misgendering which is pretty standard rules here
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Prismsblade
10/22/19 12:22:22 PM
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Idk what these people are trying to accomplish with this. It almost seem as if their living life in easy mode. They have all the perks of a man, while being a woman with none of the disadvantages of either.

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ThanksUglyGod
10/22/19 12:26:23 PM
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Trans women are gonna take over the sports world doomsayer topic #683078628436
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CyricZ
10/22/19 1:09:29 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
Idk what these people are trying to accomplish with this. It almost seem as if their living life in easy mode. They have all the perks of a man, while being a woman with none of the disadvantages of either.

Transgender people are literally being killed by the dozens per year for the crime of being transgender.
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karlpilkington4
10/22/19 1:11:45 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Prismsblade posted...
Idk what these people are trying to accomplish with this. It almost seem as if their living life in easy mode. They have all the perks of a man, while being a woman with none of the disadvantages of either.

Transgender people are literally being killed by the dozens per year for the crime of being transgender.


link?
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pinky0926
10/22/19 1:18:19 PM
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Do you guys seriously believe trans people have life on easy mode?

Have you ever met a single trans person? Made friends with one? Talked to them about their life?
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CyricZ
10/22/19 1:18:53 PM
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karlpilkington4 posted...
CyricZ posted...
Prismsblade posted...
Idk what these people are trying to accomplish with this. It almost seem as if their living life in easy mode. They have all the perks of a man, while being a woman with none of the disadvantages of either.

Transgender people are literally being killed by the dozens per year for the crime of being transgender.


link?

https://www.hrc.org/resources/violence-against-the-transgender-community-in-2019
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karlpilkington4
10/22/19 1:26:06 PM
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CyricZ posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
CyricZ posted...
Prismsblade posted...
Idk what these people are trying to accomplish with this. It almost seem as if their living life in easy mode. They have all the perks of a man, while being a woman with none of the disadvantages of either.

Transgender people are literally being killed by the dozens per year for the crime of being transgender.


link?

https://www.hrc.org/resources/violence-against-the-transgender-community-in-2019


Uhh...

Some of these cases involve clear anti-transgender bias. In others, the victims transgender status may have put them at risk in other ways, such as forcing them into unemployment, poverty, homelessness and/or survival sex work.

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Sackgurl
10/22/19 1:28:04 PM
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do you think those things are okay, karl?
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karlpilkington4
10/22/19 1:30:49 PM
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Sackgurl posted...
do you think those things are okay, karl?


Homelessness is never ok. But being a certain gender doesn't force you to be homeless or be a sex worker. There are multiple transgender Mayors in the U.S.
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tennisdude818
10/22/19 1:32:04 PM
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And progressives everywhere who have never played a sport seriously in their lives make jazz hands in approval.
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CyricZ
10/22/19 1:39:03 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
And progressives everywhere who have never played a sport seriously in their lives make jazz hands in approval.

Oh crap you guys. It's tennisdude. The ONE PERSON on CE who has played a sport seriously.
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tennisdude818
10/22/19 1:42:30 PM
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CyricZ posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
And progressives everywhere who have never played a sport seriously in their lives make jazz hands in approval.

Oh crap you guys. It's tennisdude. The ONE PERSON on CE who has played a sport seriously.


lol youre obviously being obtuse on purpose if youre going to pretend to think thats what I said.
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TommyG663513
10/22/19 1:44:13 PM
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I've played sports all my life. The differences between men and women in athletics is very significant. There is no clear cut solution to this though.

The winning cyclists quote is downright idiotic though. She has a massive biological advantage and is very ready to call bigot on anyone pointing this out.
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tennisdude818
10/22/19 1:48:35 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
I've played sports all my life. The differences between men and women in athletics is very significant. There is no clear cut solution to this though.

The winning cyclists quote is downright idiotic though. She has a massive biological advantage and is very ready to call bigot on anyone pointing this out.


There is a clear cut compromise IMO. Call female sports cis female sports and call mens sports open. You wouldnt be misgendering anybody that way because a trans female knows that they arent a cis female.

I think this will happen eventually.
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tamagucci
10/22/19 1:50:17 PM
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mario2000 posted...
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You a one trick pony huh
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averagejoel
10/22/19 2:00:20 PM
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good for her
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joe40001
10/22/19 2:03:42 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Prismsblade posted...
Idk what these people are trying to accomplish with this. It almost seem as if their living life in easy mode. They have all the perks of a man, while being a woman with none of the disadvantages of either.

Transgender people are literally being killed by the dozens per year for the crime of being transgender.


Pretty sure the transgender homicide rate is lower than the per captia average
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averagejoel
10/22/19 2:07:02 PM
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joe40001 posted...
CyricZ posted...
Prismsblade posted...
Idk what these people are trying to accomplish with this. It almost seem as if their living life in easy mode. They have all the perks of a man, while being a woman with none of the disadvantages of either.

Transgender people are literally being killed by the dozens per year for the crime of being transgender.


Pretty sure the transgender homicide rate is lower than the per captia average

100% sure that this is incorrect
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Vicious_Dios
10/22/19 2:08:53 PM
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Congratulations to the Champion who won second (1st) and third (2nd) place. They're the true winners who earned their keep.

Medzzz posted...
have yet to meet a real champion who has a problem with trans women. Real champions want stronger competition.


This is hilarious due to the thick irony that was smeared all over on toast.

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joe40001
10/22/19 2:10:22 PM
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averagejoel posted...
joe40001 posted...
CyricZ posted...
Prismsblade posted...
Idk what these people are trying to accomplish with this. It almost seem as if their living life in easy mode. They have all the perks of a man, while being a woman with none of the disadvantages of either.

Transgender people are literally being killed by the dozens per year for the crime of being transgender.


Pretty sure the transgender homicide rate is lower than the per captia average

100% sure that this is incorrect


This is the video I saw:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCcuXe23028" data-time="&start=0


Data discussion is at 3:15, if you want to jump to that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCcuXe23028#t=3m15s

Let me know where it's data is wrong, I'd like to have the most accurate knowledge/data
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trappedunderice
10/22/19 2:12:27 PM
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That's because he is man with clear advantages, this transgender shit is getting out of control and is ridiculous.
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